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 LLove2LaughToo
Joined: 3/5/2011
Msg: 601
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Here's why Donald Trump won't win the Republican presidential nomination :

Trump does not have the support he needs from the Republican party to win the Republican nomination.

Trump’s numbers aren’t that good

Trump is only at 25% – not high enough to score wins in most primary elections and caucuses – and there are persuasive reasons to believe he cannot climb much higher.

What’s more, his numbers in individual state polls in Iowa (22%) and New Hampshire (18%) are currently lower than his national numbers. That means he may not be as competitive early on as he appears.

In the first 13 Republican primary and caucus elections in 2012, the winner garnered an average of 41.8% of the vote. Trump is polling nationally at around 25%. Where do the extra 17 points come from?

“Twenty-four, 25% of the vote is not enough to win,” Karol said. “It might be enough to win in Iowa, it might be enough to win in New Hampshire. But it’s not enough to win in the later states where the bulk of the delegates are at stake.”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/22/donald-trump-wont-win-republican-presidential-nomination
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 602
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 8/28/2015 8:41:22 AM
Good article on Trump in Politicausa:


The unholy alliance between ethnic nationalism and big business saw its 20th century heyday in the Third Reich of Adolf Hitler. Ethnic Nationalists in this country have long been looking for their version of Germany’s Führer, and they have finally found him in Donald Trump, and with him, the hope of a 21st century redux.

As the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) reported the other day,

With his campaign showing no signs on slowing down, Donald Trump continued his war on immigrants by introducing a six-page immigration plan that reads like the playbook of the organized anti-immigrant movement in America. Trump’s plan — calling for mass deportations, a border fence and gutting the 14th amendment — also strengthened his support among white nationalists.

The SPLC’s Hatewatch report shows praise coming in from white nationalist Brad Griffin on his website Occidental Dissent, from Jared Taylor, “one of the most significant white nationalists in the movement today” at American Renaissance, and from former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke.

What happened when Trump addressed a crowd in Mobile, Alabama, ought to give every American pause:

One person could be heard yelling “white power!” during Trump’s remarks, and white nationalist Olaf Childress, editor of the racist paper The First Freedom was on hand to pass out copies to attendees. The New York Times also interviewed a Trump supporter who stated, “Hopefully, he’s going to sit there and say, ‘When I become elected president, what we’re going to do is we’re going to make the border a vacation spot, it’s going to cost you $25 for a permit, and then you get $50 for every confirmed kill. That’d be one nice thing.”

“White power” is the American “Sieg Heil.” As Trump is speaking their language, he will likely hear many more of these.

If you look at Trump’s Greenville, South Carolina crowd, you see his demographic plainly:

The Lindsey Graham crowd. According to Trump, Graham’s former crowd (They’re his now). The combustible center of right wing angst. Old white people.

Trump is no former soldier. Unlike Hitler, he hasn’t faced an enemy in battle, been wounded, or won any medals. But like Hitler, he is subscribing to a homeland “stabbed in the back” mentality that rallies all the disgruntled and discontented to his banner, those who feel they have been betrayed by the establishment.

In 1930s Germany, this was the post-war leftist Weimar government. In 21st century America, it is another “leftist” government that is the target – the presidency of Barack Obama.

Jews, blacks, immigrants. It doesn’t matter. These are all people who are fundamentally unlike us, they say. Germany for the Germans. America for Americans. White. Like Jesus.

Hitler said Germany could be great again. Neither Trump nor Reagan invented the idea of lifting a nation from the ashes and restoring it to its former glory. And like Hitler, Trump is pushing the idea that the military has been betrayed by the politicians, and just as Hitler linked this betrayal to the Jews, Trump is linking it to immigrants:
Like post-war Germany, America is riddled with right wing militias, all eager to come to blows with the communists in their midst. The trouble with that analogy is that here in America, there are really no communists with which to come to grips. So conservatives have invented “other” communists: liberals, progressives, gays, atheists; anyone to the left of where they themselves are.

Despite their claim to represent a “silent majority,” their list of enemies includes most of the population.

Hitler had the Jews. Today’s right wing has had, until recently, to settle for Muslims, atheists, Hindus – and Jews – anyone, really, who isn’t what they perceive to be “Christian” and white. The concept of white has never been entirely about skin color in this country. Once upon a time, even the Irish weren’t considered white. Now Donald Trump has given them immigrants, who are mostly rapists and murderers anyway, he says.

The result of the Trump hatefest should not be surprising:

Stormfront, the Web’s largest white supremacists website founded by former Klan leader Don Black, has no less than nine threads discussing the New York billionaire’s plan. With a history of violence attributed to the site’s users, it’s no surprise that Trump’s supporters have begun calling for the murder of immigrants.

In one thread, a user claimed it would only be plausible to deport 25 percent of the undocumented immigrants in the country. Another user followed up with the statement, “Everyone in favor of shooting the rest…raise your hand.”

In a country where we already have police, the people whose job it is to protect and serve the public, gunning down or killing while in custody those portions of the public of which it does not approve, talk like this is not just talk. We have seen armed white men take to the streets at the possibility of gunning down black protesters in Ferguson. We have white ranchers emerging from armed showdowns with the federal government without consequence, and white militias are already patrolling our southern border while white men with their ubiquitous AR-15s infest restaurants and stores alike, using the Second Amendment like a weapon.

Too much should not be made of Walmart’s decision to stop selling AR-15a – announced the same day two journalists were murdered in Roanoke, Virginia – because the decision was not made in response to shootings there or elsewhere, but according to Walmart spokesman Kory Lundberg, “slumping demand,” and the decision to cater to hunters and clay-shooters.

Ethnic nationalists militias will not be hard pressed to continue to arm themselves. The NRA has seen to that.

The biggest difference here is that Adolf Hitler needed the support of the 1 percent, and got it. They supported the Nazi party from its very early days. Donald Trump does not need the support of the 1 percent. He IS the 1 percent. People have always wondered how Germans let themselves be mislead by Hitler, but Americans need wonder no longer: we are seeing it for ourselves in the response to Donald Trump.

The totalitarian demagogue they have been waiting for has arrived, and he is leading them down a rosy path to destruction. We do not have to say violence will result. Violence has already resulted as a couple of would-be Trump stormtroopers beat a Hispanic man in his name.

Indeed, as in the days of Adolf Hitler, violence has preceded him in his march to power, because violence is inherent in the forces he is seeking both to harness and to unleash. And this is but a foretaste of what is to come, because the inevitable consequence of ethnic nationalism when given the power it craves, is ethnic cleansing.

Donald Trump has already promised us that, and look out, because if you’re not with Trump, he has already made clear you are against him, and his well-armed supporters enthusiastically agree.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 603
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 8/28/2015 8:47:53 AM

Good article on Trump in Politicausa:


Which makes more sense when you read this:

Donald Trump's ex-wife once said Trump kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed
Amanda Macias

According to a 1990 Vanity Fair interview, Ivana Trump once told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that her husband, real-estate mogul Donald Trump, now a leading Republican presidential candidate, kept a book of Hitler's speeches near his bed.

"Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed ... Hitler's speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist," Marie Brenner wrote.



Read more at:

http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2015/07/donald-ivana-trump-divorce-prenup-marie-brenner
 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 604
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 8/28/2015 8:49:51 AM

Nope, to not understand, is to be brandished a stupid.

A stupid... please define?


Also, I thought all Trumps followers were rich cats raping the poor? How did such stupid folk get so rich?

Maybe that is because you are not very smart and tend to think things that are not true.

When challenged on the facts always lash out in a childish insult.

How many of your previous predictions for Trumps exit have come to fruition so far?
All of them.

How can all of your predictions for Trumps exit be true considering Trump has not exited the race?
Now who's being "a stupid"?


HF what is your over under date for Trumps exit from the race?

Only a fool would attempt to set a date, I am just stating that it will be before the republican convention.

Oh so your date is prior to July 18–21, 2016.
Gee thats brilliant considering there has not been a brokered convention in the US since 1952. Way to go out on a limb there HF. You certainly are no fool! A bigot perhaps but not a fool!
 BialaPolska
Joined: 5/20/2015
Msg: 605
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 8/28/2015 8:51:26 AM
At this stage of the balkanization White People can be classified in two categories ; Pro White and pro white geNOcide. Draw your conclusion. Whites need a political voice. Needless to say a Homeland as well.

Persecution of leaders such as Dr. Duke and Don Black will subside after incidents such as yesterday's become commonplace. After all , these gentlemen foretold the results of Affirmative Action. The article , however , is correct , sleeping wino cuckolds will eventually awaken.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 606
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 8/28/2015 8:58:40 AM

A stupid... please define?


Look in the mirror.




How can all of your predictions for Trumps exit be true considering Trump has not exited the race?
Now who's being "a stupid"?


The person who asked how many of my predictions on Trump leaving the race that have come true.





Oh so your date is prior to July 18–21, 2016.


Yep.




Gee thats brilliant considering there has not been a brokered convention in the US since 1952. Way to go out on a limb there HF. You certainly are no fool! A bigot perhaps but not a fool!


Well not as brilliant as coming back with some derp about a brokered convention which is totally unrelated to Trump pulling the plug before the convention.

It is like when you get backed into a corner with facts you just start tossing bullsh*t in hopes some of it will stick.
 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 607
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 8/28/2015 9:25:03 AM

A stupid... please define?
Look in the mirror.

I rest my case!


The person who asked how many of my predictions on Trump leaving the race that have come true.
Oh so your date is prior to July 18–21, 2016.
Yep.

Well I for one am happy you did not set a date!
Don't let that limb crack you in the head on the way down.


Gee thats brilliant considering there has not been a brokered convention in the US since 1952. Way to go out on a limb there HF. You certainly are no fool! A bigot perhaps but not a fool!
Well not as brilliant as coming back with some derp about a brokered convention which is totally unrelated to Trump pulling the plug before the convention.
It is like when you get backed into a corner with facts you just start tossing bullsh*t in hopes some of it will stick.

Ok so you don't know what a "brokered convention" is. The bottom line is,in recent US history by the time the convention starts the nominee is already known due to the delegates already being decided by Primaries. Therefore only one candidate is essentially standing by the start of the Convention.
You are welcome for the education.

But back to the topic...
Trump has been trashing Jeb Bush mercilessly for weeks now.
And it's working. In the latest Quinnipiac poll, Trump leads among Republicans with 28 percent, non-politician Ben Carson has 12, and Bush is in a three-way tie for third place with 7 percent.
No one yet has shown they can go head to head with Trump and that is why he has a chance to win the Republican nomination.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 608
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 8/28/2015 9:39:32 AM

Ok so you don't know what a "brokered convention" is. The bottom line is,in recent US history by the time the convention starts the nominee is already known due to the delegates already being decided by Primaries. Therefore only one candidate is essentially standing by the start of the Convention.


Well aside from that being partially wrong as it is not by the time the convention starts but after the 1st vote, it still has nothing to do with Trump pulling out before hand.





But back to the topic...
Trump has been trashing Jeb Bush mercilessly for weeks now.


Which should not be hard to do considering that Bush has used a personal email for government business and we all know how quick people can get outrage about that.

Also not to mention the fact that Bush;

Jeb Made Millions By Bankrupting Florida Pension Funds
http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/08/jeb-made-millions-by-bankrupting-florida-pension-funds/




And it's working. In the latest Quinnipiac poll, Trump leads among Republicans with 28 percent, non-politician Ben Carson has 12, and Bush is in a three-way tie for third place with 7 percent.


So one can conclude come July the republicans are going to be so screwed they will have no one that can challenge any democrat.




No one yet has shown they can go head to head with Trump and that is why he has a chance to win the Republican nomination.


So are you predicting that Trump will be on the republican ticket?
 Eric_Summit
Joined: 11/3/2009
Msg: 609
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 8/28/2015 9:40:04 AM

Posted by 00Spy:
"Trump up to 28% in Republican polls.
They said he couldn't get to 10%, then they said he couldn't get to 20%...
On the night of election (or primaries) will Republicans vote for him?
With favourability numbers not high there are big question marks on Trump."

Excellent observation and insightful post.
Polling numbers for Donald Trump indicate he is speaking to a country dissatisfied with the current path.
That is change we can believe in.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 610
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 8/28/2015 9:44:59 AM
^^^^Speak for yourself and the rest of the teapuppets if you will, but in the general election polls as reported by Real Clear Politics Trump gets beat by Clinton, Sanders, and Biden (who's not even a candidate)



"Trump up to 28% in Republican polls
Polling numbers for Donald Trump indicate he is speaking to a country dissatisfied with the current path.


So what you're saying is that roughly 25% of 50% of the country supports Trump...or 12.5% of the country...that's rich.
 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 611
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 8/28/2015 10:09:04 AM

So one can conclude come July the republicans are going to be so screwed they will have no one that can challenge any democrat.

Think what you will HF time will tell.


No one yet has shown they can go head to head with Trump and that is why he has a chance to win the Republican nomination.


So are you predicting that Trump will be on the republican ticket?
I have no idea on this one as Trump defies all logic when it comes to conventional thought on how to run a campaign.
What is your prediction?
Wouldn't a Hillary vs Trump face-off be fun?
Can't you just imagine that debate?
Brings back memories of this classic bit...


Dan Aykroyd: Hello, I'm Dan Aykroyd, station manager for Weekend Update. Last night, President Carter announced that the United States and Red China have agreed to establish full diplomatic relations starting January 1st. That will be the topic of tonight's Point-Counterpoint with Jane taking the pro-relations point and I will take the anti-relations counterpoint.

Jane Curtin: Dan, only a reactionary ass such as yourself could oppose full diplomatic relations with China. As President Carter said, it is a simple recognition of reality. How can we ignore eight hundred million people? But, then again, I guess it's your habit to ignore reality. You're a paranoid schizophrenic, Dan, whose politics are obviously born out of some buried infantile trauma. You hide from reality, constructing a hostile world to justify your own incapacity for love and compassion. Go ahead, Dan, live in your dark, lonely world. The rest of us will extend our hands in friendship to eight hundred million human beings, saying, "Hi! You do exist. Let's be friends."

Dan Aykroyd: Jane, you ignorant slut. My personality profile is not at issue here, any more than is your inability to achieve orgasm. The issue is Taiwan. How can we expect to have the confidence of any free nation when we stab one of our most faithful allies in the back. I suppose you'd like to conduct our foreign policy the way you conduct your private life, hopping from bed to bed with anyone that can do you some good. Then what do you have? An old, dried-out scuzz that no decent man would be seen with. Is that what you want for America? It's too late for you, Jane, but our country still has some dignity left, you hosebag!


Gonna be fun!
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 612
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 8/28/2015 10:23:07 AM
From the "are you kidding me, are you serious, WTF" file:



Post #643 posted by double zero:
No one yet has shown they can go head to head with Trump and that is why he has a chance to win the Republican nomination.
Post #647 by double zero:
So are you predicting that Trump will be on the republican ticket?


Are you having a conversation by yourself? Are you that delusional that you post a comment and then reply to yourself??? Get a grip Twisty...Is it that, since you've lost every debating point so far, that you think you can win one debating yourself?
 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 613
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 8/28/2015 10:33:03 AM
Oh Irish so angry...
Please excuse my quote framing mistake but you really should read all the posts because then my friend you would know that it was HF who posed that question.

As for the topic....
Trump on taxes...
"I would change it. I would simplify it," Trump told hosts Mark Halperin and John Heilemann from the lobby of Trump Tower on New York's 5th Ave. Specifically, Trump targeted hedge fund profits, which are currently taxed at a lower rate than regular income.

"I would take carried interest out, and I would let people making hundreds of millions of dollars-a-year pay some tax, because right now they are paying very little tax and I think it's outrageous," Trump said. "I want to lower taxes for the middle class."

"That's right. That's right. I'm OK with it. You've seen my statements, I do very well, I don't mind paying some taxes. The middle class is getting clobbered in this country. You know the middle class built this country, not the hedge fund guys, but I know people in hedge funds that pay almost nothing and it's ridiculous, OK?"
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 614
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 8/31/2015 4:11:05 AM

Please excuse my quote framing mistake but you really should read all the posts because then my friend you would know that it was HF who posed that question.


Then instead of quoting yourself, like it was someone else's post, and answering your own question, perhaps you should have quoted HFX.

I read a very interesting article on Trump questioning whether he was running a false flag campaign:


[Trump’s] ties to the Clintons, his past pronouncements which are in such blatant contradiction to his current fulminations, and the cries of joy from the Clintonian gallery and the media (or do I repeat myself) all point to a single conclusion: the Trump campaign is a Democratic wrecking operation aimed straight at the GOP’s base.

Donald Trump is a false-flag candidate. It’s all an act, one that benefits his good friend Hillary Clinton and the Democratic party that, until recently, counted the reality show star among its adherents. Indeed, Trump’s pronouncements—the open racism, the demagogic appeals, the faux-populist rhetoric—sound like something out of a Democratic political consultant’s imagination, a caricature of conservatism as performed by a master actor.


BlackBag


My latest is the Democratic machine will abandon Secretary of State Clinton and migrate to Senator Elizabeth Warren instead.


Anyone wish to venture a little forum wage on how wrong this claim is?


Liberals seem enamored with Senator Bernie Sanders for now, yet I think his flame will go out.


It is doubtful that Bernie will win the Democrat nomination, but he is important to the process. It is important to have more than one viable candidate running for a parties nomination, and he brings a different perspective to the table. It is refreshing to see the two democrat candidates running civil campaigns...and is much a contrast to the campaigns of a thousand cuts the GOP candidates are running.
 BialaPolska
Joined: 5/20/2015
Msg: 615
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 8/31/2015 4:55:28 AM
What is Mr. Glassburg hiding.? Is he ashamed of something? Why would Mr. Glassburg refer to himself as an aka? What does Mr Glassburg think about the refugee invasion of White Lands? Does Mr Glassburg promote the same difunction in his homeland? Oy !!!!
 LLove2LaughToo
Joined: 3/5/2011
Msg: 616
Donald Trump's immigrant wives
Posted: 8/31/2015 6:21:23 AM

Melania Trump moved to New York about 20 years ago.


Melania Knauss-Trump was born in Slovenia, (the Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia) and had been living in this country for about 10 years when she married Donald Trump in January 22, 2005. She became a naturalized U.S. citizen a year later.


And the next year, after marrying Trump, she became a citizen -- a decade after arriving in America.


And of course, Trump's first wife, Ivana, was an immigrant too. Born in Czechoslovakia, she married an Austrian ski instructor in order to get a foreign passport to leave the communist country,


She and Trump married in 1977, but she didn't become an American citizen for another 11 years.


In other words, Donald Trump is a hypocrite. Maybe he should start deporting his immigrant wife and his own anchor children.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/24/politics/donald-trump-immigrant-wives/index.html
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 617
Donald Trump's immigrant wives
Posted: 8/31/2015 10:01:11 AM
there was an editoral/leader in the paper lately, that the rise of Trump could be blamed on political correctness. In other words, it was the liberals' fault. I can agree, PC has been taken too far. But, on the flip side, I know some people just don't like to be told what they can't say. I listen to white folk whine, to this day, they can't use the N word but rappers can.

um...why do you want so bad to use the word? Of all the words in English, you aren't educated enough to find another word to get your point across? or is that b/c you aren't allowed the toy, you now want it so bad? Funny how people who complain about the death of politeness want to use the word. Or maybe they just can't stand being limited in what they want to do, even when they didn't want to do it a second ago.

Some of the Trumpchumps echo his complaint, that America isn't number one no mo'. well, yeah, and I can't drink all night and work all day anymore, either. We've all gotten older and can't do things we used to. We aren't the top dog on the world stage, either. Why whine so much about it? did whining make America great? I grew up during the 1980's, and what was the hot job? Selling junk bonds rather than real items. the hot movie was "Wall Street", destroying companies that sold actual items in order to chase the almighty dollar. now 30 years later, we wonder why we don't make things like we used to. oh, that's right, we celebrated destroying them, b/c "greed is good."

I also remember Micheal Crighton (sic) and his book and movie "Rising Sun". The Japanese were buying Rockafellar Center. Oh my, those freaky Japanese are taking over America! we're all doomed. we need to learn how to speak Japanese if we're going to survive. they're wiping out detriot and will be all of our bosses. boy, did that happen. how is it that, like every other country, when our economy takes a dive we start blaming the foriegners who were smart enough to be better than us? and when our economy is really bad, we go after the foriegners who are weaker than us--the Chinese coolies who came to build our railroads, now its the Mexicans. oh, and anyone else who doesn't know their place. you know, them wimin who don't take orders, who won't settle for middle management, but expect they can boss us around. and of course, them uppity dark skinned people.

who are they to boss us around, tell us we owe them reparations? who are they to make demands? "We" see our world shrinking, and "they" want more of it. but, that's the real problem. we no longer have the lives our parents had. our world seems to be shrinking, and more of "Them" seem to be getting the power to have what we have. Except for that every white dude shooting a place up b/c his world is threatened, there's a person (who he thinks threatens his world), sitting in a slum claiming he can't get nowhere b/c the white people keep him down. look at both their resumes, however, and likely what you find is two lazy people waiting for something to be handed to them.

Trump gets support, b/c he never points a finger at his supporters and asks, "hey, did it ever occur to you that maybe its your fault?" It was a Democrat who said, "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". He wouldn't get any votes with that nonsense today. we're afraid we're going backward, when we're really returning to normal--the prosperity of the past was an abnormality, caused by a population boom living off credit, in a world so damaged by WW2 that America could be unchallenged for a long period of time. That period is over, and we're back to normal again.
 LLove2LaughToo
Joined: 3/5/2011
Msg: 618
Donald Trump's immigrant wives
Posted: 9/1/2015 12:20:11 PM

More Republican voters, 40%, told Public Policy Polling’s latest national survey that Texas Sen. and GOP presidential hopeful Ted Cruz was born in America. Cruz, an American citizen by way of parentage, was born in Canada.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-supporters-obama-muslim-poll-article-1.2344533
 HondoGal
Joined: 5/30/2014
Msg: 619
Donald Trump's immigrant wives
Posted: 9/3/2015 3:05:53 AM
Trump and Cruz are planning an “anti-Iran nuclear deal” rally in Washington.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/27/ted-cruz-and-donald-trump-planning-a-joint-appearance-to-protest-the-iran-deal/

“There is no bigger problem for these voters than the corruption of the political system. They think big companies are buying influence, while average people are blocked out.” Trump’s riches allow him to portray himself as someone who can’t be bought, and his competitors as slaves to their donors. “I don’t give a shit about lobbyists,” Trump proclaimed at an event in May. And his willingness to talk about issues that other candidates are shying away from, like immigration and trade, reinforces the message that money makes him free.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/10/donald-trumps-sales-pitch

Persons who work for a living or those who are retired and living off their investments know that our country is in chaos. The more than 20% of our entire population who rely on government for their entire existence, from cradle to grave, and have for generations want the Obamadoomsters to continue their reign. Honest, hard working citizens crave a decent, intelligent man to make America great again.

Mr. Trump needs to stress the fact that he will get rid of the enormous political machine that is the Federal government. Hundreds of agencies; most of them completely unnecessary, created to benefit the politicians’ cronies and families.

How Many Federal Regulations are There?
According to the Office of the Federal Register, in 1998, the Code of Federal Regulations(CFR), the official listing of all regulations in effect, contained a total of 134,723 pages in 201 volumes that claimed 19 feet of shelf space. In 1970, the CFR totaled only 54,834 pages.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscongress/a/fedregulations_2.htm

Jim Harper, director of information policy studies at the Cato Institute, told The Daily Caller that no useful list of government agencies exists.

.
 drinkthesunwithmyface
Joined: 3/27/2012
Msg: 620
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Posted: 9/3/2015 6:25:38 PM
Look folks, the interesting thing about all this is that a lot of our criticisms of Trump were strawmen and political-image-games that we're used to accepting as legitimate for being the status-quo in politics and campaigning...and what Trump has been doing is smashing through all that and stuffing it into our faces for retaining those useless mindsets, revealing how bad that all is but we just don't realize it yet.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 621
Donald Trump's immigrant wives
Posted: 9/3/2015 6:57:22 PM
#665


Honest, hard working citizens crave a decent, intelligent man to make America great again.


If you had a 1/2 brain that was functioning, you'd realize that pple like Trump[by reviewing his track record] never have the interests of "honest hard working citizens in mind" when they do things, and much less the GOP (who looks at these pple like a bird of prey looks at an unsuspecting squirrel for a quick meal).

The notion that "honest & hard working citizens" would crave [your word] somebody like Trump (who has shown to bail out on investors and leave everyone hanging when the going gets rough) is as inane as it gets! Even the GOP has disdain for Trump and is banking on the hope that he'll somehow hang himself with his own rope!

As an example, there was Ron Paul back in 2006-7 who was running for office under the GOP; he was derided by his own party (for breaking party policy) and promptly marginalized to virtual non existence. It was easy to do with Paul who was a light weight; but they'll find a way to harpoon Trump as they already tried via the FOX led spearheading, its just gonna be a bit more sophisticated!


Mr. Trump needs to stress the fact that he will get rid of the enormous political machine that is the Federal government. Hundreds of agencies; most of them completely unnecessary, created to benefit the politicians’ cronies and families.


If you knew what you were talking about
You would have realized that for the US gov't to be the kind of global force/power they are;
having "big government" is practically a pre-requisite

The 100's of agencies you refer to (as you name not 1) are almost all intertwined with other agencies much like a large nervous system is; you tamper with 1 part and you affect many others, and many of them are spin offs of larger agencies. Mitt Romny wanted to get rid of FEMA (he opened his yap before Hurricane Sandy hit), and look what it did for him!

In the aftermath of 9/11; it was brought to light that the CIA and FBI did not share in sensitive information/data with one another! Guess what, more agancies & depts were created for the purpose that this would not happen again!

How smaller did the Fed gov't get once the Reagan Bush team left office?
RR de-regulated many institutions, and look what came of it!
This had repercussions years after he left office, and the damage is nearly irreparable
Deregulating big corps/institutions is akin to pulling the wooden stake outta Dracula's heart!

The notion that society will have more jobs as a result of deregulation is even a bigger joke!
 BussOfEsprit
Joined: 10/10/2014
Msg: 622
Donald Trump's immigrant wives
Posted: 9/3/2015 9:07:50 PM
People are waking up to our corrupt system, political division, manipulation of the population, and a government that is bought. The writing is on the wall and explains the appeal of Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOP02tSOgXU
 LLove2LaughToo
Joined: 3/5/2011
Msg: 623
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 9/4/2015 8:44:52 AM

A tale of two interviews: Donald Trump and Carly Fiorina on foreign policy :

After Donald Trump struggled through a foreign policy interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt on Thursday, the 2016 Republican frontrunner accused Hewitt of asking "gotcha" questions and later criticized the host as a "third-rate radio announcer."

But one of Trump's competitors for the 2016 nomination, former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, faced a similar set of questions from Hewitt later on Thursday - and though she conceded she has some studying up to do, she didn't lash out at Hewitt about it.

The host began by asking each candidate about General Qassem Soleimani, the head of the Iran Revolutionary Guard's Quds forces, and how the Iranian nuclear deal would affect Iran's militant proxies.

Trump began his answer by discussing the Kurds, an ethnic group in the region. When Hewitt clarified that he said "Quds," Trump replied, "Oh, I thought you said Kurds."

On General Soleimani, Trump asked Hewitt, "Is he the gentleman that was going back and forth with Russia and meeting with Putin? I read something....Not good for us. And what it shows is a total lack of respect, I mean, that the other countries would even be entertaining him, and they're entertaining him big league."

Fiorina, by contrast, launched into a lucid argument that the nuclear deal would empower Iran's armed proxies in the region. "We know that the general of the Quds force has been a powerful tool of the Iranian regime to sow conflict," she explained. "The Iranian deal - which sadly, has just been approved by Congress - starts a massive flow of money, and that money is going to be used not only to build up an Iranian nuclear weapon - which they have been hell-bent on getting for thirty years - that money is also going to go to the Quds forces, going to go Hezbollah. It's going to go to all of Iran's proxies, which is why I've said to you on other occasions, Hugh, that we have to stop the money flow."

Hewitt then asked each candidate whether they're familiar with the main players among the network of terrorist syndicates in the Middle East.

"No, you know, I'll tell you honestly, I think by the time we get to office, they'll all be changed. They'll be all gone," Trump replied. "Those are like history questions. Do you know this one, do you know that one...as far as the individual players, of course I don't know them. I've never met them. I haven't been, you know, in a position to meet them."

When Hewitt insisted he wasn't trying to play "gotcha" with Trump, the candidate didn't buy it.

"Well, that is a gotcha question, though," he said. "I will be so good at the military, your head will spin. But obviously, I'm not meeting these people. I'm not seeing these people... it sounded like gotcha. You're asking me names that, I think it's somewhat ridiculous, but that's okay."

Fiorina, facing a similar line of questioning, acknowledged she could bone up a bit on the issue. "I have to be very honest with you and say that sometimes I can get confused a bit between the name and group because they sound a bit alike sometimes, so I have to pause and think sometimes," she admitted. "But, I certainly know all those names both of the individual leaders and of the terrorist groups. I certainly understand where these terrorists are in play. I certainly understand that one of the most dangerous things that is going on right now is competition among these leaders and among their terrorist groups."

Fiorina closed the interview with Hewitt by defending the host from Trump's criticism. "I don't think they're 'gotcha questions' at all," she said. "The questions you're asking are at the heart of the threat that we face, that our ally, Israel, faces, that the world faces. It is critically important that America lead again in the world. It is critically important that we have a leader in the White House who understands the world and who's in it and how it works."

During a Friday appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," Trump, as he often does when he faces tough questions from the media, lashed out again at Hewitt.

"You do have it right, and when you say Quds vs. Kurds, I thought he said Kurds," Trump said. "This is like a third rate radio announcer, that I did his show, it was gotcha gotcha, do I know this one and that one, he worked hard on that, I thought he said Kurds."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/election-2016-donald-trump-carly-fiorina-on-foreign-policy-hugh-hewitt/
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 624
Donald Trump's immigrant wives
Posted: 9/4/2015 2:23:02 PM
a friend was just asking me on the phone, why doesn't someone Trump-dump? all these conspiracies about the press holding back stories and such, why aren't those mysterious people doing something now? theories about Bilderburgs and Trilateral Commission picking out the prez, why aren't they doing something about this?

I think one of the Republican hopefuls who doesn't have a snowball's chance, should start throwing mud. There's a long period of time to go, so whoever tries a shoestring tackle on Trump has a long distance to travel, and both will likely go down covered in mud, leaving the rest of the field to run. Someone should take one for the Republican team and play political hit man.

maybe someone who supports a four-times married Federal worker who refuses to do her 80,000 taxpayer dollars per year job, legislates from her bench, about the sanctity of marriage?
 drinkthesunwithmyface
Joined: 3/27/2012
Msg: 625
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Posted: 9/4/2015 4:27:56 PM

for the US gov't to be the kind of global force/power they are;
having "big government" is practically a pre-requisite

The 100's of agencies you refer to (as you name not 1) are almost all intertwined with other agencies much like a large nervous system is; you tamper with 1 part and you affect many others

...I think that also in the early formation of the U.S. the idea was to spread authority around and slow down how decisions are made and actions taken so that abuse of power could be hampered.
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