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 ICEMAN850
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You mean to say that a new administration won't be corrupt?? That'll certainly be a first!

Honestly the mob is a less corrupt organization.
So yes the next President will at least be less corrupt.... Because unless Satan wins it can't get worse.
 aj7125
Joined: 11/28/2014
Msg: 652
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Posted: 9/22/2015 4:20:44 PM
Fiorina talks very well on foreign policy. Trump is another Obama in a lot of ways because they both ignite people who wanted change. Trump won't be the nominee. We do definitely need change and this time I think with a conservative in the white house in 2016 will accomplish that.

The number of republican candidates will dwindle some more in the next 3-4 months, plenty of time to hear who is left and decide which would be better equipped to get us back from a terrible 7 going on 8 years. Clinton is done, sanders won't get it done either and biden has enough past problems that he won't amount to much.

If anything, trump is definitely igniting millions who are fed up with liberals.. We all have positives to look forward to when a conservative is in the WH in 2016
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
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Posted: 9/22/2015 5:04:57 PM

You try to discredit all of the GOP candidates.


Nope. They do that all on their own. Trump with his business expertise-and 4 bankruptcies-hiring illegals. Fiorina, the fired CEO of Hewlett who offshored 30,000 jobs, and drove the stock price down 62%, Carson-well he just opened his mouth and self destructed. Christy, a heart-attack away from the presidency-yea, he had no idea/knowledge of bridgegate. Rubio-get him some water.


While y'all have a criminal that her biggest accomplishment is not being in prison.


Hahahahahahaha...the Benghazithon collection plate is still accepting donations.....after 10 congressional committees have investigated Benghazi and not one finding of wrongdoing. The Senate Select Committee on Benghazi found no wrong doing. The House Select Committee on Benghazi released a preliminary report saying there was no wrongdoing...NOW, we're on a witchhunt into Ms. Clinton's emails-I notice there hasn't been one accusation of wrongdoing associated with Benghazi with the release of the Clinton emails, and not one email containing then classified information has yet turned up. But, hey, keep donating to the Benghazithon-keep the faith!


Or a 70+ y/o socialist


Yanno....he's a social democrat (not that you'd know the difference)

Bernie would like higher education to be free or at least affordable, and after reading the uneducated drivel here written by some, I can see why. What the evangelical teapuppet conservatives don't see, is that an educated society is an economically prosperous society.

I think the crop of clowncar GOP presidential contenders scare the living shyte out of democrats...anyone of them will drive every democrat and many independents out to vote in 2016. I predict, whichever democrat gets the nomination, it will be another 4 years with a democrat president.
 ICEMAN850
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Posted: 9/22/2015 5:53:38 PM

Nope. They do that all on their own. Trump with his business expertise-and 4 bankruptcies-hiring illegals. Fiorina, the fired CEO of Hewlett who offshored 30,000 jobs, and drove the stock price down 62%, Carson-well he just opened his mouth and self destructed. Christy, a heart-attack away from the presidency-yea, he had no idea/knowledge of bridgegate. Rubio-get him some water.


None of them are under investigation by the FBI..... Anyway none of them is getting the nomination.



Hahahahahahaha...the Benghazithon collection plate is still accepting donations.....after 10 congressional committees have investigated Benghazi and not one finding of wrongdoing. The Senate Select Committee on Benghazi found no wrong doing. The House Select Committee on Benghazi released a preliminary report saying there was no wrongdoing...NOW, we're on a witchhunt into Ms. Clinton's emails-I notice there hasn't been one accusation of wrongdoing associated with Benghazi with the release of the Clinton emails, and not one email containing then classified information has yet turned up. But, hey, keep donating to the Benghazithon-keep the faith!


See the above answer.



Yanno....he's a social democrat (not that you'd know the difference)

http://m.democracynow.org/stories/7158



I predict, whichever democrat gets the nomination, it will be another 4 years with a democrat president.


You predicted the dems to retain the House in 2010 and the Senate in 2014 I believe your prediction will be just as accurate this time.
 BigBadNIrish
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Posted: 9/22/2015 6:28:08 PM

None of them are under investigation by the FBI


No one on the Democrat side is either.



You predicted the dems to retain the House in 2010 and the Senate in 2014


You must be taking a page from the Fiorina playbook, because....That's a big fat lie! (by the way you started your profile in 12/2014...you weren't here in 11/2014 0r 11/2010)



http://m.democracynow.org/stories/7158


Bernie calls himself a social democrat. Social Democracy is the form of government found in the Scandinavian countries. It is at heart a free-market/capitalist system, sometimes called a mixed economy; the government does not own the means of production. Rather, the government takes significant steps to curb the negative outcomes of capitalism, by providing free healthcare, free childcare, paid leave, free college, job training, etc. Typically these systems have higher voter turnout, lower wealth inequality, and less influence of money on politics. This exactly mirrors Bernies positions.
 gtomustang
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Posted: 9/22/2015 6:32:42 PM
Trump is likely a protest vote, a dumber version of H. Ross Perot. Its funny how every accusation the Dems have made of Republicans (racist, hate women, talk about supporting vets but really won't, ignore the hypocracy of their leaders, etc) really explain why Trump can get the support he gets. He doesn't just trigger anger with Dems, he gets the Tebaggers who hate the RINOs and GOP status quo.

Scott Walker at least realizes its time for the low rankers to get together and help the party take out the leader. And he learned that a one-issue candidate only has a chance when he or she picks up the right issue.
 ICEMAN850
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Posted: 9/22/2015 7:13:25 PM

No one on the Democrat side is either.


https://reason.com/blog/2015/08/28/the-fbi-is-investigating-whether-hillary

Reagan was right......"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so."


You must be taking a page from the Fiorina playbook, because....That's a big fat lie! (by the way you started your profile in 12/2014...you weren't here in 11/2014 0r 11/2010)


Not a lie been on and off of here for years. I've taken you to the woodshed many times. See Reagan quote above.


Bernie calls himself a social democrat. Social Democracy is the form of government found in the Scandinavian countries. It is at heart a free-market/capitalist system, sometimes called a mixed economy; the government does not own the means of production. Rather, the government takes significant steps to curb the negative outcomes of capitalism, by providing free healthcare, free childcare, paid leave, free college, job training, etc. Typically these systems have higher voter turnout, lower wealth inequality, and less influence of money on politics. This exactly mirrors Bernies positions.


A socialist is a socialist.
http://www.libsdebunked.com/socialism/scandinavian-socialism-argument/
 BigBadNIrish
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Posted: 9/22/2015 7:42:13 PM

https://reason.com/blog/2015/08/28/the-fbi-is-investigating-whether-hillary


Do you even read the shyte you post?

from your article:


The latest spy-thriller-worthy plot point in the ongoing real-life drama over Hillary Clinton's exclusive use of a privately run email account comes via Fox News, which reports, via an anonymous source, that...

An FBI "A-team" is leading the "extremely serious" investigation into Hillary Clinton's server and the focus includes a provision of the law pertaining to "gathering, transmitting or losing defense information," an intelligence source told Fox News.


Anonymous source???


Not a lie been on and off of here for years.


So you admit you're just a forum troll who was banned for life and resuscitated yourself under a new profile.


I've taken you to the woodshed many times.


Straight from the Fiorina playbook...tell a lie and then double down on that lie. How about you just quote my predictions from the 2010 and 2014 elections, or just remain another lying forum troll.


A socialist is a socialist.


I knew you wouldn't know the difference.
 cotter
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Posted: 9/22/2015 7:44:13 PM
Message 693 ...
Not a lie been on and off of here for years.
LMAO ... probably keeps getting deleted ... for being ignorant. I think POF has some sort of rule for that.

I've taken you to the woodshed many times.


Now that I'd like to see. Have you got any links to any threads where you actually did that? I'm desperate for the entertainment! (Snort ... I can't wait to see what he gives us.)

See Reagan quote above.
You quoted Reagan and didn't include "... tear down that wall"? (Anyone who believes Reagan had anything to do with that event is an idiot.) Must be just as dumb as that ... and really not applicable. Hmmmm ... go figure.

Like I said in Message 678 ...What I recall about the exchange is that when the guy said that President Obama is a Muslim, Trump muttered a "yeah". Watch it again and you'll see Trump confirm what the guy says about the President.Trump agreed with the guy from the audience when he said that President Obama is a "Muslim"

Trump's just as big an idiot as the dumb fvck from the audience.
 ICEMAN850
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Posted: 9/22/2015 7:52:24 PM

So you admit you're just a forum troll who was banned for life and resuscitated yourself under a new profile.


Never been banned...... People come and go for all sorts of reasons. But if it makes you feel better whatever.


Straight from the Fiorina playbook...tell a lie and then double down on that lie. How about you just quote my predictions from the 2010 and 2014 elections, or just remain another lying forum troll.


I know what you have said. Seeing as you're the ones making predictions here why don't you prove you didn't?

Irish you are just like all other libs. No facts just spew how it should be. Do the math on comrade Sanders proposals. Even if you taxed everyone at 100% there is not enough money to pay for it.
Margaret Thatcher — 'The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.'
 BigBadNIrish
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Posted: 9/22/2015 8:10:54 PM

Do the math on comrade Sanders proposals.


It seems the economists who's works were used to create the Wall Street Journal Article (you've conveniently omitted) don't agree with the author of the article:


On September 14, the Wall Street Journal published a piece arguing that presidential candidate Bernie Sanders’ proposed programs would be absolutely unaffordable (Price Tag of Bernie Sanders’s Proposals: $18 Trillion). A number of people, including the economist on whose work those estimates were based, have rebutted their claim:

Gerald Friedman: An Open Letter to the Wall Street Journal on Its Bernie Sanders Hit Piece


James Kwak: Bernie Sanders Wants to Spend $18 Trillion: So What?

Robert Reich: 4 reasons the Wall Street Journal’s attack on Bernie Sanders is absurd


From Rob Reich:


The Journal’s number is entirely bogus, designed to frighten the public. Please spread the truth:

1. Bernie’s proposals would cost less than what we’d spend without them. Most of the “cost” the Journal comes up with—$15 trillion—would pay for opening Medicare to everyone.

This would be cheaper than relying on our current system of for-profit private health insurers that charge you and me huge administrative costs, advertising, marketing, bloated executive salaries, and high pharmaceutical prices.

(Gerald Friedman, an economist at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, whom the Journal relies on for some of its data, actually estimates a Medicare-for-all system would actually save all of us $10 trillion over 10 years).

2. The savings from Medicare-for-all would more than cover the costs of the rest of Bernie’s agenda—tuition-free education at public colleges, expanded Social Security benefits, improved infrastructure, and a fund to help cover paid family leave – and still leave us $2 trillion to cut federal deficits for the next ten years.

3. Many of these other “costs” would also otherwise be paid by individuals and families – for example, in college tuition and private insurance. So they shouldn’t be considered added costs for the country as a whole, and may well save us money.

4. Finally, Bernie’s proposed spending on education and infrastructure aren’t really “spending” at all, but investments in the nation’s future productivity. If we don’t make them, we’re all poorer.


What's most interesting is the Sander's proposed Financial Transaction Tax, which is designed to curb high frequency trading....you know...those hedge fund guys in Stamford with high speed computers...trading on pennies a share instantly (almost) which ruins the market for the average Joe.


Never been banned


What's your old user name? Hmmmm???


Seeing as you're the ones making predictions here why don't you prove you didn't?


What an azzhole...Oh I'll just quote thousands of post I've made over the years to prove I didn't make the 2010 and 2014 predictions....do you have a brain...how about using it!

I made a prediction in post number 689 you made an accusation in post #690...you made the accusation you find the post! LIAR
 ICEMAN850
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Posted: 9/22/2015 8:30:41 PM
http://www.wsj.com/articles/price-tag-of-bernie-sanders-proposals-18-trillion-1442271511

Read the whole thing 15 trillion is just to scratch the surface.

Again I remember what you said if anyone wants to check it would be around the time of the elections. I have better things to do than look up some bullbutter you said years ago.

Here's a link to the old political forum.
https://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingForum98.aspx

Can't wait until the house of cards that is the democratic party completely folds.

James Carville is right about one thing.
http://clashdaily.com/2012/11/james-carville-says-80-of-democrats-are-politically-clueless/

The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans.
Read more at http://clashdaily.com/2012/11/james-carville-says-80-of-democrats-are-politically-clueless/

And he is one of y'all!!!!
 congupnaroad
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Posted: 9/22/2015 8:41:39 PM

Do you even read the shyte you post?


Are you in denial that Hilary is being investigated by the FBI?



Months into her email scandal, Hillary Clinton is still trying to get away with lines like, “There’s no evidence of that.” Oh, and answering questions with laughter.
No wonder she keeps falling in the polls — behind a 74-year-old Brooklyn-born socialist in the first two primary states, where more folks are paying attention.
On CNN’s “The Situation Room” last week, she faced questions about the claim by New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie that she should face criminal charges for using a private email account and server to conduct official State Department business, including emails with highly classified information.
Clinton burst into laughter.
She kept up the giggling when asked about the chance that hackers from Russia or China broke into her server to glean national-security secrets. And then gave the lawyerly answer, “There’s no evidence of that.”
Well, not yet — the FBI’s only started looking for it, years after the breach might’ve occurred.
Anyway, Clinton went on: “This is, you know, this is overheated rhetoric, baseless charges trying to somehow, you know, gain a footing in the debate and in the primary. And it really doesn’t deserve any comment.”

Baseless charges? Yeah, the FBI makes it a habit to investigate those


Facts already on the public record prove Clinton had top-secret info on that server. Two former CIA chiefs have faced prosecution for putting classified information on their home computers.
And after two decades at the pinnacle of Washington power, Clinton can’t plead ignorance that some of those emails (reports on conversations with foreign officials; data from US spy satellites) were “born classified,” even if they didn’t come labeled “Top Secret.”
Donors are panicking because she can’t make the story go away — and her campaign is reaching for a lifeline: It’s started sending Bill Clinton out to fundraise.
He’s not doing public events yet — the campaign doesn’t want to be seen to need him. But that moment is coming — because it’s looking like the only thing that can save Hillary Clinton now is a truly gifted liar


nypost.com

20/9/2015

Do you think it is a hoax?
 BigBadNIrish
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Posted: 9/22/2015 8:44:02 PM

because there were more Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans.
Read more at http://clashdaily.com/2012/11/james-carville-says-80-of-democrats-are-politically-clueless/

ROFLMAO....Only thing is....hahahhahahaha....Carville never said that....see Snopes
 ICEMAN850
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Posted: 9/22/2015 8:56:31 PM

ROFLMAO....Only thing is....hahahhahahaha....Carville never said that....see Snopes.


And you actually believe Snopes!!!!!! The left wingnuts that have been proven to be nothing but a liberal yes man site.

Really get a grip.



Are you in denial that Hilary is being investigated by the FBI?


You are using facts on him he's a liberal..... They don't know what facts are.
 woobytoodsday
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Posted: 9/22/2015 9:34:44 PM
What's a "comrade"?
 BigBadNIrish
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Posted: 9/23/2015 3:02:18 AM

Again I remember what you said if anyone wants to check it would be around the time of the elections. I have better things to do than look up some bullbutter you said years ago.


No, you don't have the time to do anything but make up lies and double down on them. I notice the formerly banned forum troll hasn't given up his old nick for us to read what shyte got him banned.


The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans.


Carville even says he didn't say this!

from snopes:


In October 2012 the above-referenced quotation in which James Carville purportedly likened the Democratic constituency to "a herd of cows" received wide circulation on the Internet. It appeared to have originated with an unsourced posting to the ThinkExist.com which has been reproduced on a number of other web sites. However, we found no news article, speech, interview transcript, or printed source documenting this statement as one actually made by James Carville, and a representative from his office confirmed that the purported quote was not something Carville himself ever said:
Apparently the quote was falsely posted by an unknown user to a quotations website called thinkexist.com. We have contacted the website and asked them to take the quote down. James Carville never said these words, and this quote in no way belongs to James Carville.


Feel free to distribute my response, so people know the truth that this quote was 100% falsely attributed to James Carville.


Now to double down on the lie:


And you actually believe Snopes!!!!!! The left wingnuts that have been proven to be nothing but a liberal yes man site.


Typical teapuppets.


Are you in denial that Hilary is being investigated by the FBI?


Is this a case of dumb and dumber?


In a terse letter Monday, FBI General Counsel James Baker appeared to reject the request .
"At this time, consistent with long-standing Department of Justice and FBI policy, we can neither confirm nor deny the existence of any ongoing investigation, nor are we in a position to provide additional information at this time," Baker wrote to senior State Department attorney Mary McLeod.


Can we get another hallalula from another anonymous source?


Two former CIA chiefs have faced prosecution for putting classified information on their home computers.


Don't ya just love it when you read something someone who clearly doesn't know what talking about writes?

Let me splain the difference between what you've mentioned and Ms. Clinton. Petraeus knowingly took highly classified information home and then gave it to his mistress who just happens to be a writer. Who's the other CIA chief you mentioned? Ms. Clinton's emails, so far, have only contained information that was then unclassified-thus-no crime-only another Benghazithon fund raiser. And let's just remember...if you're higher up, you face no prosecution. For years, the Espionage Act prosecutions have only been for low-level officials, while the heads of federal agencies leak with impunity. For example, current CIA director John Brennan, former CIA director Leon Panetta, and former CIA general counsel John Rizzo are just three of many high-ranking government officials who have gotten off with little to no punishment despite the fact we know they've leaked information to the media that the government considers classified.

Trump on the Late Show last night:


When pressed on his past contention that President Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States, Trump deferred.

"I don't talk about it anymore," he said.


The Birther is Back
 ICEMAN850
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Posted: 9/23/2015 6:24:36 AM
For there not to be a investigation there sure are a lot of investigating going on....... A lot of deleted stuff that was not so deleted....... Now will the muzzie in chief actually let her take the fall?

And maybe the better question is will they be able to stop Trey Gowdy........ I think her biggest problem is going to be our next Attorney General!


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/23/us/politics/investigators-find-emails-hillary-clinton-said-were-erased.html?_r=0

Some of his fellow libs might want to go console Irish!
 deetristate
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Posted: 9/23/2015 12:22:59 PM
What is a muzzie?

Hillary should take a note from Donald. No matter what he or she says, people will not be satisfied.

Just refuse to say any more about it.
 ICEMAN850
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Posted: 9/23/2015 12:35:39 PM

What is a muzzie?


A moslim aka muslim

Hillary isn't saying anything..... But the evidence is speaking loudly!

Wonder if Bill will wait on her to get out?

On the bright side for her Mandela was elected president after serving 27 years for his crimes.
 cotter
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Posted: 9/23/2015 12:37:02 PM
Message 704 ...
They still have no "republican-dipper" that could beat a grasshopper and we have someone who thinks some "dipper" from South Carolina is going to be the next Attorney General?

Message 705 ...
What is a muzzie?
One of your favorite people! More ...
 BigBadNIrish
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Posted: 9/23/2015 12:54:48 PM

Now will the muzzie in chief actually let her take the fall?


Who said the birthers went into hiding?



What is a muzzie?
A moslim aka muslim


Muzzie is a derogatory term islamophobic people like him call Muslims, sort of like moslim....You can hear people like him use other derogatory terms like n___er, spic, kike, wop, slope, homo, etcetera to describe people different from themselves


But the evidence is speaking loudly!


Care to share some of that "evidence" with us?
 Eric_Summit
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Posted: 9/23/2015 2:04:54 PM

Posted by ICEMAN850:
"...And maybe the better question is will they be able to stop Trey Gowdy...
I think her biggest problem is going to be our next Attorney General!..."

Congressman Trey Gowdy will make a superb Attorney General in the upcoming Republican administration.
 cotter
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Posted: 9/23/2015 3:09:45 PM
Message 709 ...

Always good for a good laugh ... eh?

You have no candidate that could even win against a person in a coma

No winny the election, no choosy the Attorney General!!!!
 drinkthesunwithmyface
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Posted: 9/23/2015 4:32:19 PM
I'll say this - One thing that Trump has done is probably getting more people re-interested in politics and the presidential campaigns. At least in some respects, to some degrees, etc. I've had the feeling for a while that more people have followed things and watched the debates, etc, simply because Trump is part of it all now - just from wanting to see the whole "spectacle". And so maybe in the process more people are learning a little about it all and even "caring" more and wanting to be involved in America more directly politically.

And...I honestly just can't say that I write Trump off. I'm feeling that a lot of our negative interpretations of him and initial reactions to him running, were a bunch of little strawmen. Again, we're used to even ourselves looking at things through some glasses of surreality when it comes to politics, institutionalized by a status-quo of false-perception-of-image-is-reality, playing into the whole game ourselves and even actively participating in the ways that we shouldn't yet always complain about. All of this ^ is made so much more obvious than usual via Trump's presence and people's opinion about him.

This is certainly not to say that I think that any of them are perfect. As soon as I think that I like one, there are a few areas wherein each of them instantly lose so much credibility with me.
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