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 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 76
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No mention of keeping Canadians or Europeans out of the country.

Your words not mine.
Again there is no rush of illegal Canadians crossing the boarder or Europeans swimming the Ocean to get into America? That one ended a few hundred years ago.
So why would he or Obama for that matter be concerned.
It's not the colour it's the vast numbers and the criminals there within.
Legal immigration is necessary and you will see it increased under the next Republican Administration.

As for the Trump story, you had to go back to a 1990 clipping?
If you understood anything about construction and contracting you would understand that Trump did not hire illegals and they did not work for his company but rather a sub-contractor. As Prime Contractor he was not responsible and most likely did not know. Also this was a civil suit and not a criminal suit. It must have failed as I can find no resolution to the suit.

But hey while you are actually researching why don't you research Nancy Pelosi and her Illegal immigrant worker thingy.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 77
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/21/2015 4:55:29 AM

By the same token no Repubs have appeared in a Primary for the 16 Election because no 16 Primaries have occured


I guess I felt no need to state the obvious.


Stop with the hyperbole and give valid discussion points rather than useless hate.


Are you speaking in the third person?


Dems were in the same position back in 2007 leading into the 08 election.


No they weren't...Clinton and Obama were front runners with Edwards a close third in the summer of 2007.


In the first three months of 2007, Clinton and Obama raised more than $20 million each and Edwards raised more than $12 million.[17] The three candidates quickly became the frontrunners for the nomination,[18] a status they held all the way through the end of 2007.


But, I do note, with much laughter, you've avoided my question back at you once again:


which, on the 2014 obscure list, had their presidential candidacy mentioned in national news? Please provide the link.


The thing about conservatives is they often make accusations without evidence, like they've said something is true, and other conservatives actually believe the original statement...case in point:


But hey while you are actually researching why don't you research Nancy Pelosi and her Illegal immigrant worker thingy.


What illegal worker thingy? An on line search only turned up uber-conservative websites making the same innuendo's.

But, I notice great hypocrisy in your postings...while there is nothing but innuendo...no filings against Pelosi nor family corporations...you seem to believe she hires illegals....yet, where there was no on-line reporting the resolution of the case where sub-contractors hired 200 illegals and under payed them, and Trump was the prime contractor (thus responsible)...well, here you claim the case was resolved in Trumps favor...with nothing to support your claim. It's funny how you take fiction and turn it into "fact."


It must have failed as I can find no resolution to the suit.


More about Trump...He's filed for corporate bankruptcy 4 times...1991, 1992, 2004, and 2009....only once putting his personal wealth at stake-1991...and stiffing creditors every time.
 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 78
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/21/2015 7:25:48 AM

As for the Trump story, you had to go back to a 1990 clipping?
Yes. Once a person becomes an adult, their record is free game to hold them accountable for.

Was it not a civil case? So record has no meaning. Also there is no judgement mentioned so I assume it was dismissed.
Your absolutely wrong as Prime Contractor he would not face charges for the hiring practices of his subs.
They contractor who directly contracted would be criminally liable not the prime.
Remember this was a civil suit so no this does not affect his "record" and I know you meant criminal record.
I have studied Prime Contractor law extensively.

I bet you don't see any republican candidate saying anything remotely close to this. Write back when you hear one republican actually say that.
What was the bet?
Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, and Lindsay Graham, and former governors Jeb Bush and Rick Perry have all voiced support for expanding the number of foreign workers in the country.
Here is Ted Cruz (at 4:00) proposing to double legal immigration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa2FU69HSag

You might want to put your ass back in place for pointing out bigots for there race pimping bigotry is not bigotry in itself. I debate the individual ideas, individual words and individual action of people and I don't hate any people for the for the sum of those.
Do you understand that difference. A bigot would not.
Nice try though!
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 79
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/21/2015 9:58:46 AM

More about Trump...He's filed for corporate bankruptcy 4 times...1991, 1992, 2004, and 2009....only once putting his personal wealth at stake-1991...and stiffing creditors every time.


Tip of the orange haired iceberg.

Look up,

Trump Airlines

Trump Ocean Resort Baja Mexico

Trump Vodka

Trump Mortgage
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 80
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/21/2015 10:34:39 AM
Donald Trump managed to lose money as the house. The only other guy I know of who lost money owning a casino was Benny Seigal. His investors killed him for that. Trump thinks it qualifies him to be President.
 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 81
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/21/2015 1:22:01 PM
You guys do realize the amount of debt your current President has run up?
As for Trump, whats his net worth?
Any where near yours?

Trump has no chance to win the Repub nomination in fact he still hasn't filed to run so it may be a moot point but the man knows how to make money.
Most successful people have failed along the way to there rise have you guys never read a biography.
Really guys you have to put aside your ideological bias once in awhile and admit the obvious.
Trump is a very wealthy man.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 82
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/21/2015 2:58:50 PM

You guys do realize the amount of debt your current President has run up?


And $12 trillion of that is directly attributed to GWB. But lets let Trump reorganize our debt in bankruptcy court, where he's well known, and see how that works for us.


As for Trump, whats his net worth?


Because he's stiffed his creditors 3 times without putting his personal assets at risk...probably not to shabby. What's the net worth of the US? Something like $250 trillion (because we know you only ask questions you never answer them.)

And I ask a third time:


which, on the 2014 obscure list, had their presidential candidacy mentioned in national news? Please provide the link.


It's sad you don't know when to admit you were wrong.
 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 83
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/21/2015 3:28:39 PM
Oh I forgot it's all Bush's fault.
One thing I do look forward if Hillary were to win is then Obama will get all the blame for her messes.
Should be interesting.
Hey Irish according to Skootch your not aloud to mention any other people in here other than Trump.


which, on the 2014 obscure list, had their presidential candidacy mentioned in national news? Please provide the link.


I don't know, I must have missed the 2014 election.
Does that mean Obama is on his record 3rd term?
Wow

I do give you credit Irish not one derogatory comment aimed at a poster or subject in that last post of yours.
Much improved!
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 84
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/21/2015 3:40:40 PM
I gotta hand it to you....even when you knew there was a typo and I'd meant 2008 you still avoided admitting you were wrong and apparently are guilty of not knowing what you were talking about. But, just in case I'm wrong, I'll ask again (with the correct year):


which, on the 2008 obscure list, had their presidential candidacy mentioned in national news? Please provide the link.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 85
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/21/2015 4:20:40 PM

You guys do realize the amount of debt your current President has run up?


Yep, about a 45% increase, as compared to Bush's 86%

http://factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2012/02/DebtReaganObama.png




As for Trump, whats his net worth?


A lot less than he claims.




Any where near yours?

Nope, but then I was not born into like Trump.
 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 86
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/21/2015 5:22:27 PM
Ah yes Irish a typo, bad keyboard eh.
I respect you sir and was not about to take issue with it unlike others in here.
And you know whom I speak of...

As for being mentioned in the news I am not sure what the point is?
To me that says that is a sign of a weak Dem Party.
Honestly now are you totally confident with Hillary's chances?
What happens if Hillary collapses under her own ineptness as a campaigner as she did in 08?
Bernie Sanders really?
Or perhaps you holding out for the transracing Elizabeth Warren?

Either way we won't be seeing Trump in the White House any time soon. In addition I am also willing to bet that nor will any other mentioned in this post.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 87
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/21/2015 5:37:00 PM

As for being mentioned in the news I am not sure what the point is?


The point is that you wrote because I was unaware of these 12 obscure candidates that I was an uninformed Democrat. My claim is that who csred...these were candidates running, for the most part, on some single issue that riled them up enough to make a statement.


To me that says that is a sign of a weak Dem Party.


That there were 12 single issue obscure candidates? Or that there were 2 Democrat front runners in the summer of 2007.

Democrats for the most part rallied around three candidates...Clinton, Obama, and Edwards during the summer of 2007...which is the same point in the campaign as we are now in the 2016 elections...and Republicans have no clear front runner. It is my opinion that this shows the weakness of the severely fractured Republican party....the Republican party can agree on about 2 things...they disagree on the rest which has made for a grossly divided party.
 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 88
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/21/2015 5:43:27 PM
You may be right it may very well be a sign of weakness however my point along is that it really doesn't matter.
or let me put it in a way so you and your brethren may understand better.
"What Difference Does It Make!"
BTW most liberal pundits think it is a deep Republican group.

In the end it will come down to one on one unless of course Elizabeth Warren decides to be transparty (Indie) as well as transracial. My gosh who can keep up?
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 89
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/21/2015 5:53:01 PM
This thread is about the punch line that is Donald Trump actually declaring he's running for the Republican nomination. Seems to have derailed.a bit.

For what it's worth, Trump won't make it past the first couple of primaries. But Clinton probably won't win a Presidential election. She's not a good campaigner and she just doesn't look Presidential. That's the key - since the dawn of television the candidate who looks most Presidential has won, from Eisenhower onward. All the Republicans have to do is nominate some guy (and yeah, that's a big part of it) who looks good in a suit and he'll win.

Just realpolitik. And let's face it, her husband ran the most right wing Democratic administration of the 20th century. As a Senator she proposed a constitutional amendment banning flag burning. She only looks good compared to Republicans. I just can't see anyone getting too excited about another President Clinton from the moderate right to the left. And the GOP already has the extreme, radical right.

Edit: Most liberal pundits think its a deep field on the Republican side? Nobody, not even the most blinkered conservative would call that a deep field.
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
Msg: 90
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Posted: 6/21/2015 6:43:57 PM
I can't wait to vote for Trump in the primaries ... if he makes it that far.

I think he's only running to get his name out there ... and of course, he knows he's gonna be a "cliown" candidate on the debate stage. I think we should sell tickets!

I can' think of one Republican I would value enough to vote for in the national election. H3ll or high water, it looks again as if I may be forced to vote for a Democrat in 2016 ... sigh. And just when I was all prepared to vote Republican ... registered as a Republican and all ... get all their brochures ... their telephone calls. But alas I really need to find out which "dipper" will represent my standards ... could rightfully take my issues to the white house ... or at least Wahshington..
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 91
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/21/2015 7:58:52 PM
msg 88


Oh I forgot it's all Bush's fault.


Funny that you didn't "forget" to mention that the current state of race relations in the US was all the Democrats fault of 100 + yrs ago!

Too bad you are Canadian, given your fact twisting double-talk and double standards you exhibit, all the tea-baggin' neocons would have loved to enroll you as one of their 'favorite sons '!

Maybe you could offer them a tutorial in your "skills".
That would be the next best thing.
 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 92
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/21/2015 8:53:50 PM
Yule, why all the hate.
Sorry that you have trouble keeping up so allow me to slow it down for you.

I do not blame the state of race relations on Dems for actions of 150 years ago.
You simply fail to understand.
I point out that it is folly to call all republicans racist and to lay blame on any one group of individuals for present day problems.
History teaches us one thing that our great north american experiment has had many side steps and will continue to but it is still the best place in the world to live.
We have it so good here that our worst problem is screaming at each other simply because we are different.
Just look at all the crazy rhetoric in here.
Look at your own post and the use of the word, teabaggin.
So childish and really removes you from any serious consideration.

Everyone who runs has something to contribute if you open up your eyes ears and mind.
Here is a comment from a liberal pundit (sorry Half but you are wrong again) disagree with but respect and enjoy listening to;

Paul Begala
http://conversationswithbillkristol.org/video/paul-begala/?start=3712&end=4490
He talks about the Republican field at 101:52.

Enjoy
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 93
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/22/2015 6:31:26 AM

I do not blame the state of race relations on Dems for actions of 150 years ago.
You simply fail to understand.


Another slip of the keyboard?


Well ya got me, you're right, the Democrat party did not start slavery (a minor slip of the keyboard).
Far worse they only started a Civil War to maintain it.





I point out that it is folly to call all republicans racist and to lay blame on any one group of individuals for present day problems.


Yeah because those illegal wars had nothing to do with the current state of the economy, and please save the "...but they voted.." derp. We know who lied and who planted the lies and we also know who profited from those wars.




We have it so good here that our worst problem is screaming at each other simply because we are different.


Yes some of us do have very good and it is our responsibility as decent people to make sure that the rest of the citizens also have the same advantages and opportunities and if you can not see that the majority of the GOP candidates have done things that directly contradict that, then you are either blind or simple.




Everyone who runs has something to contribute if you open up your eyes ears and mind.


Then tell us what Trump brings to the table.
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
Msg: 94
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Posted: 6/22/2015 11:49:40 AM


Everyone who runs has something to contribute if you open up your eyes ears and mind.

Then tell us what Trump brings to the table.


I can't wait to hear what Begala has to say about Trump. He's the one who brought us the famous description of "Dumbya Gumpya" ... "He's a high-functioning moron ... "

The Teadippers and Republicans lost their minds. I still remember hearing them on some sort of GOP radio talk show as I was driving around visiting my patients in Florida. They made it worse than it really was by repeating and repeating and repeating and repeating it ... "How dare he speak of our gallant and brave president like that! Yadda, yadda, yadda ... " It was hilarious!
OMG ... ROTFLMFAO ... they were so incensed by it that they just couldn't stop talking about it. As if they didn't know "Dumbya Gumpya" really was that ignorant!

I was laughing so hard I had to pull over until they were done ... even laughing right now as I type ... just remembering the episode! Too damn funny!
 BialaPolska
Joined: 5/20/2015
Msg: 95
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/22/2015 12:08:23 PM
Truthfully , why would any White person bother? Every candidate is standing in the way of a White Ethnostate. Not a one will stand up to the brown invaders. Our interests simply are being ignored ; Taxation without representation ; time for a new America.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 96
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/22/2015 2:48:21 PM

Truthfully , why would any White person bother? Every candidate is standing in the way of a White Ethnostate. Not a one will stand up to the brown invaders. Our interests simply are being ignored ; Taxation without representation ; time for a new America.


Sounds like you are a couple of steps away from going into a church with a gun.
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/22/2015 4:05:59 PM
...oh yea, that's the part that I want to see - debates with Trump. That's definitely what I want to see. Abso freaking lutely. Somehow I think that I'm going to LOVE those. They really could sell tickets to that one if they wanted to. Here comes Pay per view.
 Doremi_Fasolatido
Joined: 2/14/2009
Msg: 98
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Posted: 6/22/2015 4:34:06 PM
Donald Trump for president? Where could have his voters common sense have went? To back a huckster such as he....

Every thing about the man is fake, Just follow his moves, for goodness sake, If he ever spoke the truth the earth would shake....

But of course, and then again, this is just the way I see the Trump Presidential push in 2016... On the plus side, it'll be pure entertainment for all. I've already got a few good laughs from it and he has'nt even gotten into full swing yet.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 99
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/22/2015 5:00:49 PM

...oh yea, that's the part that I want to see - debates with Trump.


He will probably drop out before he has to do any.

As to officially declare your candidacy you have to disclose some of your personal financial information and that is why he will never go all the way with this.

This is about as real as the actors he hired to be at his speech.
 00Spy
Joined: 4/13/2013
Msg: 100
Donald Trump running for Presidency 2016
Posted: 6/22/2015 5:18:52 PM
Trump filed his paperwork today so now he has 30 days plus possibly two 45 day extensions to produce his financiasl.
Always entertaining.
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