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 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 126
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GOP bill cites ‘seducing spirits and doctrines of devils’ in push to defund Planned Parenthood
Eric W. Dolan
03 Aug 2015 at 14:32 ET

...Before demanding the House take up four bills related to abortion and LGBT rights, the resolution cites two Bible verses.

“Whereas in Jeremiah 1:5 the Bible reads ‘Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee.'; and Whereas in 1 Timothy 4:1–5 the Bible reads ‘Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils': Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the House of Representatives calls upon the Speaker to encourage committee chairs to schedule the following legislation for immediate committee consideration, then follow through with scheduling votes on the House floor if they are reported favorably by their respective committees.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/gop-bill-cites-seducing-spirits-and-doctrines-of-devils-in-push-to-defund-planned-parenthood/


Though for some reason they left out:

And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. -- Numbers 31:15-17

Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. -- Hosea 9:14

Yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb. -- Hosea 9:16

Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up. -- Hosea 13:16

Because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die. -- 2 Samuel 12:14

The priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell. And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. ...

And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed. -- Numbers 5:21-21, 27-28

Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt. -- Genesis 38:24
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 127
Planned parent hood selling off fetus parts
Posted: 8/4/2015 6:46:32 AM
So if you are a governor and you want to punish some of one of the poorest people in your state, and you want more people to have unwanted babies and or seek more abortions this is what you do:


Bobby Jindal Cuts Off Medicaid Funding to Planned Parenthoods In Louisiana
By Tierney Sneed
Published August 3, 2015

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) announced he had ended the state's Medicaid contract with Planned Parenthood in response to an anti-abortion "sting" video campaign against the reproductive health service...


...The move comes despite the fact that the two Planned Parenthood clinics in Louisiana do not provide abortion, which Planned Parenthood confirmed to the state's Department of Health and Hospitals as part of the state's ongoing investigation into claims that the organization is profiting off of aborted fetal tissue donations. A third clinic being built in New Orleans plans to offer abortion, but will not participate in the tissue donation programs, a Planned Parenthood executive told the state.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jindal-louisiana-planned-parenthood-medicaid
 congupnaroad
Joined: 7/22/2015
Msg: 128
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Posted: 8/4/2015 4:27:21 PM

So if you are a governor and you want to punish some of one of the poorest people in your state, and you want more people to have unwanted babies and or seek more abortions this is what you do:


I agree and the Republicans aren't real smart trying to stop Federal funding for Planned Parenthood in the US, considering that in the US it is illegal to use Federal funds for abortions anyway. They are just using it as a political football and not considering the big picture.
 aj7125
Joined: 11/28/2014
Msg: 129
Planned parent hood selling off fetus parts
Posted: 8/4/2015 5:45:57 PM
skoochie, you are something, once again. When PP is doing things illegal and you are ok with them doing things illegal, then you play the radical card or the racist card or the black card or the liberal card or the Hillary card. All liberal ploys when you just hate the truth and people doing something about it. Backbones are important, know when you are wrong and either admit it or stew in it. You do it very well as far as stew in it. Better turn your support to biden, another Hillary/Obama. And if he isn't, we all will see how he lies to try to get the nomination, regardless of what is true. I say it for the umpteenth time, the dems have no one and it is unfolding before our eyes and even yours, I know you know that. It really is sad that there is no dem who is worthy of at least being put up for nomination to their party.
 DameWrite
Joined: 2/27/2010
Msg: 130
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Posted: 8/4/2015 5:48:39 PM
The world is watching who and what American wingnuts are supporting these days. The joke is that they think they are somehow... enlightened. lmao
 aj7125
Joined: 11/28/2014
Msg: 131
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Posted: 8/4/2015 5:56:25 PM
^^^^^ Spoken like a true wingnut. And not a joke either, nor a laughing matter. But hey, it's their opinion.

VVVVVVVV This PP and the videos isn't over yet, let's all say that together now.........

You wish it was, just like Hillary and her mess and a judge just recently putting more pressure on her. I can see why you libs want this all to be done with, if I had my face buried in the sand and didn't want to hear truth, I'd be like you.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 132
Planned parent hood NOT illegally dealing in fetus parts
Posted: 8/4/2015 6:04:46 PM
"when PP is doing things illegally, and you are OK with them doing things illegally"

>>>except, of course, IT AIN'T ILLEGAL! its legal! totally legal. been investigated, found....all together now...legal! what they are doing is legal b/c its...legal.

its just that simple and easy.

now, let's change things around:

"when George Bush goes to war in Iraq illegally, and you are OK with George Bush going to war illegally"

and you actually have a point.
 congupnaroad
Joined: 7/22/2015
Msg: 133
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Posted: 8/4/2015 6:56:10 PM

"when PP is doing things illegally, and you are OK with them doing things illegally"

>>>except, of course, IT AIN'T ILLEGAL! its legal! totally legal. been investigated, found....all together now...legal! what they are doing is legal b/c its...legal.

its just that simple and easy.

now, let's change things around:

"when George Bush goes to war in Iraq illegally, and you are OK with George Bush going to war illegally"

and you actually have a point


Well some people are claiming that what Nucatola was describing is partial-birth abortions which are illegal in the US because it has been deemed as crossing the line between abortion and infanticide.

You know the procedure where they intentionally rip the baby out of the womb feet first, but before the head is exposed they stick a tube in the babies skull and suck its brains out, all while the babies heart is beating.

That can happen because Planned Parenthood do not use medically induced foetal demise , you know the procedure they use for later term abortions where they insert a needle in the unborn babies heart to stop it beating. Which increases the chances of some babies being born alive.

Now I wonder why they would do that? Because using drugs to stop an unborn babies heart beating renders some foetal tissue useless for research purposes.

What an amazing coincidence!
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 134
Planned parent hood NOT illegally dealing in fetus parts
Posted: 8/5/2015 6:38:31 AM

if I had my face buried in the sand and didn't want to hear truth, I'd be like you.


So then I guess you will tell everyone what PP did that was / is illegal.

Or will you go run away and pretend you never lied?

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Elizabeth Warren to Republicans Did You Fall Down Hit Your Head and Wake Up In 1950's
TheWorldisYoursNews
Published on Aug 3, 2015

Elizabeth warren took to the senate floor and SLAMMED republicans for the plan to defund planned parenthood as an attack on women's rights. elizabeth warren rips republicans for trying to take away a woman's rights to choose for self. The Senate blocked a Republican drive Monday to terminate federal funds for Planned Parenthood, setting the stage for the GOP to try again this fall amid higher stakes — a potential government shutdown that could echo into next year's presidential and congressional elections. The derailed legislation was the Republican response to videos, recorded secretly by anti-abortion activists, showing Planned Parenthood officials dispassionately discussing how they sometimes provide medical researchers with tissue from aborted fetuses. Those videos have led conservatives to accuse the group of illegally selling the organs for profit — strongly denied by Planned Parenthood — and inserted abortion and women's health into the mix of issues to be argued in the 2016 campaign. Monday's mostly party-line vote was 53-46 to halt Democratic delays aimed at derailing the bill, seven short of the 60 votes the Republicans needed. Even so, the GOP is hoping to reap political gains because the videos have ignited the party's core conservative, anti-abortion voters.

The fight is already creating heated talking points for Republican presidential candidates, who convene Thursday for their first debate of the 2016 campaign. Several of the, including Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas and Rand Paul of Kentucky, are calling for Congress to end Planned Parenthood's federal payments.

In the longer term, GOP leaders are hoping that three congressional committees' investigations, plus probes in several states and the expected release of additional videos, will produce evidence of Planned Parenthood wrongdoing and make it harder for Democrats to defend the organization. Planned Parenthood provides contraception, testing for sexually transmitted diseases and abortions in clinics from coast to coast.

Democrats' were largely muted when the videos were first distributed, but their defense of Planned Parenthood has grown more robust in recent days. During Monday's debate, they sounded a theme they have employed in recent elections, characterizing the GOP drive as an assault on health care for women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IH2SRYykW8
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 135
Planned parent hood NOT illegally dealing in fetus parts
Posted: 8/5/2015 7:50:51 AM
To shut down the gov.because PP is providing remains to people and organizations that Give Planned Parenthood Money in Exchange (selling/buying) for the remains, ostensibly for needed medical research, when the women having the abortions apparently didn't care about the remains or fetus and women are going to insist on abortions in any event

is

nonsensical.

To deny that it is happening or that the actual PP employee/Drs, etc words heard and seen on video didn't happen or to try to make it appear that what PP did is not happening or "really is not what you see and hear"

is

insane
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 136
Planned parent hood NOT illegally dealing in fetus parts
Posted: 8/5/2015 8:07:42 AM

To shut down the gov.because PP is providing remains to people and organizations that Give Planned Parenthood Money in Exchange for the remains, ostensibly for medical research,..


Planned Parenthood does not get money for tissue, they get money to offset the costs of obtaining and providing the tissue, thus your statement shows you either do not understand or you are making things up.





To deny that it is happening or that the actual PP employee/Drs, etc words heard and seen on video didn't happen or to try to make it appear that what PP did is not happening or "really is not what you see and hear"


Great point, as to deny the fact that people being tricked by a heavily edited video clearly shows they are beyond stupid and clearly have failed at understanding what is real and what is not.
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
Msg: 137
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Posted: 8/5/2015 8:43:45 AM

Great point, as to deny the fact that people being tricked by a heavily edited video clearly shows they are beyond stupid and clearly have failed at understanding what is real and what is not.


And they are our elected representatives ... really scarey that they are that dumb!
 tallish3243
Joined: 7/23/2015
Msg: 138
Planned parent hood NOT illegally dealing in fetus parts
Posted: 8/5/2015 9:05:05 AM
^^^^ really scary that we have bigots and racists here pretending to be liberals.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 139
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Posted: 8/5/2015 9:08:07 AM
What's really scary is that extreme liberals can convince themselves that what has been recorded on video for all to see and hear didn't happen.

Sort of like the people who in the reality of a video recording of police beating or shooting or choking someone convince themselves that it didn't happen.
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 140
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Posted: 8/5/2015 10:05:58 AM

What's really scary is that extreme liberals can convince themselves that what has been recorded on video for all to see and hear didn't happen.


Irony aside, (as it is clear that you either did not see the videos or you lack the ability to comprehend what they are talking about and the context of the situation)


If you can, please point out anything on any of those videos that proves that PP broke the law in any way or supports what you are claiming.


I look forward to you attempting to delfect this very simple question.
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 141
Planned parent hood NOT illegally dealing in fetus parts
Posted: 8/5/2015 10:12:25 AM

PP is providing remains to people and organizations that Give Planned Parenthood Money in Exchange (selling/buying) for the remains

What is insane is that statement... PP is NOT giving remains in "exchange (buying/selling)" for money... That is ludicruous and dishonest... They are donating tissue and the recipient is paying for the associated storage/delivery costs...

THAT is NOT "buying/selling" anymore than paying "postage due" on a package is "buying/selling" the package... Of course some idiots want to try to equate paying "postage due" with "buying the package", a sure sign of "no thought"...
 11qq
Joined: 7/17/2015
Msg: 142
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Posted: 8/5/2015 10:23:50 AM
the fetal cadaver..........

ghouls, graverobbers, Frankensteins...........

i'll bet you're proud to kill babies in the womb. you're all

so worried about illegal immigrants but the helpless babies wanting to live....naw!
 aj7125
Joined: 11/28/2014
Msg: 143
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Posted: 8/5/2015 11:47:50 AM
What videos? What about people assuming there were hours of videos about PP? Could you read them? Did they exist? Were they damning? PP is performing illegal acts? <<<<<<<< Those are all questions some are asking because they have their heads in the sand and just can't come to grips about what is happening. They remain consistent in their thinking, that is for sure. So they say it isn't true (wink wink)
 HFX_RGB2
Joined: 4/14/2015
Msg: 144
Planned parent hood NOT illegally dealing in fetus parts
Posted: 8/5/2015 12:04:31 PM

Those are all questions some are asking because they have their heads in the sand and just can't come to grips about what is happening.


What is happening is, someone spent over two years attempting to create a video that could be used to attack a group that supports womens right to health care and some people are actually that stupid to not understand the facts.

Thus your claim either proves you are simple or do not understand irony.





They remain consistent in their thinking, that is for sure. So they say it isn't true (wink wink)


Speaking of keeping your head in the sand, are you ever going to prove your statement?


When PP is doing things illegal and you are ok with them doing things illegal,...


So what did they do that was illegal?

Or are you going to keep pretending you did not say it?

I guess at the very least, you will remain consistent with your inability to back up your claims.
 congupnaroad
Joined: 7/22/2015
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Posted: 8/5/2015 2:36:42 PM
Oops!

The latest video reveals how Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast diversify their revenue by altering the timing and methods of their abortion procedures to deliberately obtain foetal tissue to sell.

Which is ILLEGAL !

How are you so called liberals going to defend that one? I suppose you can just claim that the video was highly edited and because of that what was said was not really said ( yeah right!).
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 146
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Posted: 8/5/2015 3:07:18 PM

Oops!

The latest video reveals how Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast diversify their revenue by altering the timing and methods of their abortion procedures to deliberately obtain foetal tissue to sell.

Which is ILLEGAL !

Ooops...!

Looks like the lying nutbars did it again...!

4 More Deceptive Edits In The Fifth Video Attempting To Smear Planned Parenthood
Whole Sentences Removed In False Attack On Texas Planned Parenthood
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New Video Fails To Uncover Evidence That Planned Parenthood Broke The Law.
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Video Falsely Alleges Planned Parenthood Official Agrees To Illegally Alter Procedure
....
1. Full Transcript Of Video Shows CMP Cut Out Several Key Sentences, Where The Official Clarifies That They Still Use The "Standard Process" And Ensure Patient Safety.
....
2. Removed Portion Reveals PPFA Official Explained That Clinic Will Not Alter Or Delay Procedure For Tissue Donation, Per Planned Parenthood And Tissue Donation Guidelines.
....
3. Full Transcript Reveals That PPFA Official Explained That Any Changes To Procedure Must Be Approved By Doctors And Pose No Risk To The Patient.
....
4. Full Transcript Shows Planned Parenthood Official Explicitly Stated That Any Reimbursement Only Covers Administrative Costs.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/08/04/4-more-deceptive-edits-in-the-fifth-video-attem/204766


*Biting my tongue very hard right now*
 congupnaroad
Joined: 7/22/2015
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Posted: 8/5/2015 4:29:01 PM
Oops!

The president of Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast (Melaney Linton) claimed that they don't participate in foetal tissue donation! In other words she lied!

The latest video clearly shows they do! At the same time manipulating their revenue, which is ILLEGAL !

How are you so called Liberals going to defend that one? Blame it on an editing issue ?(yeah right!).

Joe you could try putting a bit in your mouth to prevent you biting your tongue, it works with horses!
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
Msg: 148
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Posted: 8/5/2015 4:37:07 PM
Or you could be lying.

Does Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast even do abortions? I know not every clinic does.
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 149
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Posted: 8/5/2015 6:09:56 PM

Oops!

The president of Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast (Melaney Linton) claimed that they don't participate in foetal tissue donation! In other words she lied!

Ooops...!

Looks like you "screwed the pooch" again...

Melaney Linton was talking to Jindal... about PPGC Louisiana... NOT PPGC Texas... the source of the video...

Get your facts straight... Oh wait... you don't use those...
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 150
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Posted: 8/5/2015 6:29:58 PM
"what's really scary is that extreme liberals can convince themselves that what has been recorded on video for all to see and hear, didn't happen."

yeah, its about as worrysome as people watching videos of police actions, and convincing themselves what they saw didn't happen. Well, its not so worrysome to the people bending over backwards to do it, yet won't question a heavily edited video during an election season.
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