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 kidreason29
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LADIES - A Question of Height...Page 16 of 16    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16)

I worked in a nursing home, and I didn't see too many tall people there. But then again, people shrink as they get older. We live in a heighist society where taller people make more money and get more respect. Compared to us, the Japanese don't seem to be that concerned with height - just saying.


not just heightism, but racism, athleticism, lookism, ageism... basically 'attractivism'
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 3/18/2016 8:28:52 PM

The paying with coupons issue: I don't use coupons. I'm arguing against the idiotic judging someone based on that ..... it's not about if you can buy her things, it's about how much you can spend on her.

I think the coupon acceptance/dislike is the pathway to the who-pays issue. In the end, it's a "just because" taste issue, based on really nothing but baseless culture. Of course within one's own culture, it's falsely believed that there's no such thing as those - lol. A gal who gets turned off by that is going to get turned off the same way as him liking her to contribute, as she'll think he's "cheap" -- with knee-jerk, stereotypical rationalizations.

I will pay every single time for my girlfriend, with no complaints, I really don't mind it, but some stranger I'm just meeting for the first time who will likely never talk to me again (which I just accept as a part of dating today), why does she automatically deserve to be treated?

I would see it more the other way around. You're not going to be Asking your GF to go out with you, but on 1st/2nd dates, a guy will be more apt to ask if the girl would like to go out with him, with at least some good implication of Taking her out. Splitting the bills on the first couple handfuls of dates, then you paying for everything when she's your GF and you're not asking her out anymore due to it being a given (GF)?

Have to have a car: I have a car and a motorcycle, so that's covered. But it's actually a common thing that you see this from people who don't drive themselves.

Unless they're living in a big city like Chicago, if they can't even afford an $800 beater, and they're taking the bus in non-big cities and hitching rides, better hope he's barely old enough to drink. Otherwise, he's not very self sufficient and it's on the same level as living with the parents at 25+ yo.

Have to be 5'10: I make that cut. I'm just curious about why exactly 5'10 and 6'1? Where do these 2 exact heights come from?

5'10" is the average height of the white male in America. That's why you hear that a lot. It's not 5'9" or 5'8.5" as some may say. For the average height of a while male in America, it's 5'10".

But I also have common sense and understand that someone who is just continually rejected isn't going to be very confident on his ability to get dates. You don't fail your way to confidence. If you keep jumping off your roof and flapping your arms, you're not going to keep becoming more and more sure that the next time you do it, you're going to fly.

True. But with that tilted-scale of the dating arena that will help guys get too much of a lack of confidence (and too much confidence for some), in the end, it's understandable a gal wants a guy who appears confident -- and mostly at least Not Lacking confidence. I think the problem is when a gal sees C0ckiness and kind of a d!ck as the baseline for "confidence".

I just personally disagree that physical attraction is as critical as people claim

Depends in reference to what people claim. It is a Big Deal. It just isn't thought about much because it's the quickest/easiest thing to figure out, compared to other things. It can usually be done without thinking about it, giving the illusion that it's "not that big a deal".

Millions of examples of the exact opposite are happily married right now

But that doesn't mean unattractive+attractive. :) But, as a side note, polar opposites statistically don't attract well for stability. For core things, people gravitate toward those like them. Not matching socks BFF type, no. But race, demographic, etc.

There's been tons of studies that show that an emotional attraction does commonly cause a sexual attraction.

True, but the potential needs to be there. It's not going to cause a 10 to be attracted "in that way" to a 3. It's going to amplify the potential, and put the lesser person's looks in favorable lens (ie on some roids). But that's not going to turn a 3 into an 8. They needed to be flammable from the start, is my point.

I'd rather have a girl who I want to spend all my time with than a girl that can be a model. Having both would be great, but it's not about wild sex all the time anymore

But, looks to guys isn't about having wild sex all the time. In fact, guys will date hotter girls who are too sexually contained, because, well, "she's hot", unfortunately. After a while, many said guys will fight or walk from them and other guys will think "How can you be like that with That girl? How can you take her for granted?" Well, they weren't going out with her. He was doing so purely based on the hot-factor and over-applying it for an LTR.

Being hot kind of takes back seat to the quality of person.

True. But not attraction. They need to pass the attraction test, to be attractive to some degree, to even be considered as a "quality person to be dating", as the thought of dating them, thus, judging quality, won't come across their minds unless they think they're at least attractive to some degree.
 Coma_White
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Posted: 3/18/2016 10:52:46 PM

There's been tons of studies that show that an emotional attraction does commonly cause a sexual attraction.


Yeah, like when a guy calls an escort service. She shows up and he says "Baby, turn me on with a nice emotional connection please."
 xdatcali
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Posted: 3/20/2016 10:25:02 PM
OP, I'm not sure if you've had any success yet, but you likely will not.

In real life, women will give you a chance if you are short. Online, most won't. If you don't believe this, try making yourself 6 feet and see if you get more responses/initial messages. I guarantee you will. In fact, it will likely make you so disillusioned that you will not take OLD seriously anymore. This is okay because you're not going find top notch women on here. You're only going to find women that want to (and, ultimately, will) date out of their league.
 dragonbytes
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Posted: 3/21/2016 5:56:42 AM

Yeah, like when a guy calls an escort service. She shows up and he says "Baby, turn me on with a nice emotional connection please."


The girlfriend experience is growing in popularity in the USA. It's quite common in Thailand, so much so a significant number of men marry their "escort". As to whether this works out in the long term, the odds aren't in their favor, but some are successful with a LTR or marriage.
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The girlfriend experience (GFE) is a commercial experience that blurs the boundaries between a financial transaction and a romantic relationship. Within the sex industry, GFE is a common term for a sexual encounter in which both the escort and the john are willing to engage in reciprocal sexual pleasure and some degree of emotional intimacy.[1] The "girlfriend experience" generally involves more personal interaction than a traditional call girl or escort offers; it varies widely from person to person, however. There is a focus on not just having sex, but also having more of a comprehensive experience.[2] Within this particular realm of sex work, prostitutes embody a sense of authenticity in order to make the experience more pleasurable for their customer, as well as to make a more lucrative outcome for themselves. [3] If the sex worker is male, the service is called the boyfriend experience.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfriend_experience


OP, I'm not sure if you've had any success yet, but you likely will not.

In real life, women will give you a chance if you are short. Online, most won't.

Online, most won't. If you don't believe this, try making yourself 6 feet and see if you get more responses/initial messages. I guarantee you will.


How would you know? In reality , you have no idea of what you are talking about.

In real life, try making yourself 5.4 and she how many women give you a chance. But you can't experience that, now can you?

Being short helps weed out all the time wasters and shorter women that are shallow, I don't really want to date women that are significantly bigger than me. I don't think most women want that either.

The huge dating pool online more than makes up for those that reject you.

Of course, as a man if you are a shallow jerk, you better be at least 6 foot tall to have a chance with women OLD or IRL and you are doomed if you are a short shallow jerk.
 xdatcali
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Posted: 3/21/2016 3:45:47 PM

How would you know? In reality , you have no idea of what you are talking about.


I know more about it than my profile reflects.


In real life, try making yourself 5.4 and she how many women give you a chance. But you can't experience that, now can you?


At the risk of having my profile deleted, I actually am 5'6. So I know a bit about it. Oftentimes, I am among the shortest (or the shortest) man in any room.

I've had success with women IRL, but little-to-no-success online (to the point that I don't take it even remotely seriously as you can tell). IRL, I attract most women that I'm interested in.



Being short helps weed out all the time wasters and shorter women that are shallow, I don't really want to date women that are significantly bigger than me. I don't think most women want that either.


I've dated women taller than me. It didn't bother me, personally. Although I typically don't make a move on taller women due to the low success rate, I've had taller women chase me before.



The huge dating pool online more than makes up for those that reject you.


Real life works way better for me than online dating. Sure, I meet less women, but the ones IRL tend to be really attracted to me, while the ones online typically are not.

Also, I get WAY hotter girls IRL. It's not even close.



Of course, as a man if you are a shallow jerk, you better be at least 6 foot tall to have a chance with women OLD or IRL and you are doomed if you are a short shallow jerk.


This, I agree with. You generally (not always) can't make any mistakes as a short guy or you will lose the girl.
 dragonbytes
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Posted: 3/24/2016 7:58:33 AM

xdatcali At the risk of having my profile deleted, I actually am 5'6. So I know a bit about it. Oftentimes, I am among the shortest (or the shortest) man in any room.

I've had success with women IRL, but little-to-no-success online (to the point that I don't take it even remotely seriously as you can tell). IRL, I attract most women that I'm interested in.


I seem to have success either way, but online I can search world wide, which greatly increases my pool. And it's way more interesting to date that way.


dragonbytes Being short helps weed out all the time wasters and shorter women that are shallow, I don't really want to date women that are significantly bigger than me. I don't think most women want that either.



xdatcaliI've dated women taller than me. It didn't bother me, personally. Although I typically don't make a move on taller women due to the low success rate, I've had taller women chase me before.


I had a 10 year relationship with a woman that was 3 inches taller and 20-30 lbs heavier. I didn't really think about it for 5 years, but her being bigger wasn't ideal when we would cuddle. After her I had a relationship with someone 3 inches shorter and 50 lbs lighter, I preferred that from a purely physical POV.

My other comment was that being short has a not obvious benefit. The women that are attracted to me tend to be higher quality than average.


dragonbytes The huge dating pool online more than makes up for those that reject you.



xdatcaliReal life works way better for me than online dating. Sure, I meet less women, but the ones IRL tend to be really attracted to me, while the ones online typically are not.

Also, I get WAY hotter girls IRL. It's not even close.


It's good that you post your experience here, you are one of the few short men that has posted. I don't really know how "hot" anyone could consider the woman I have had a relationship with, it's hard for me to judge that.

I can't really say for sure about online vs real life. When I dated in real life, they didn't have the Internet. When I dated in the last 6 years, I only used online dating and not real life at all. So I can't do a side by side comparison.

So I am glad you posted your experience.
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