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 Maleman999
Joined: 2/14/2010
Msg: 217
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"Trump holds stock in Energy Transfer Partners. Pipeline opponents worry that Trump's investments could affect any decision he makes on the project as president."


Didn't Trump say during his campaign that running the Trump Empire won't interfere with the job as president? (lol) Trump could try to make an excuse by saying it's part of his job creation program, so he needs to be involved in it to make sure it's profitable. If he happens to make money on it, that's just a byproduct of creating jobs. I suppose they could hire people to stick their fingers in the pipeline when it starts to leak, to stop it from leaking.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 218
Militiamen occupy U.S. national parks building in Oregon
Posted: 12/5/2016 10:51:33 AM
Thanks cotter for actually explaining your thinking.
But you didn't distinguish it from the BLM abuse protesters, where one was killed.
(I support both, by the way)

As to others, if it it raining, thekkkgrandwizard saying that it is raining doest mean that it is not.

Try again.
And try to set aside your guilt this time

No, Walt. Religion is not a good enough reason either. Why do you think so?
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 219
Militiamen occupy U.S. national parks building in Oregon
Posted: 12/5/2016 11:01:22 AM

No, Walt. Religion is not a good enough reason either. Why do you think so?


Can't you religion to use reasons for expulsion? If you think you can, let's use religion for reasons to do anything. Come on now. It's only fair.

Do you "get it"?
 woobytoodsday
Joined: 12/13/2006
Msg: 220
Militiamen compared to Indian demonstrators
Posted: 12/5/2016 12:31:37 PM
But I wonder, why do people support this protest but not the others who were protesting BLM abuses and takings?


I can and do support Standing Rock because the owners of the land are protesting oil interests destroying their land for profit, aided by the government. The Bundy crowd's first protest was against paying grazing fees, and using their wives, girlfriends and daughters as human shields. Second protest at Malheur, wasn't even in their own state, nor asked for by those who were so called abused. Beyond that, they used the Native Burial Ground as a latrine.

Standing Rock was given, by treaty to those who are protesting now. The Bundy crew simply wishes to make money off of land that has never belonged to them.

What I don't understand is the kid gloves used against those carrying guns and threatening harm, vs the brutal treatment of those NOT carrying guns, on their own land, not threatening anyone.

I'm GLAD GLAD GLAD that the gubmint over our history has moved to protect national treasures from oil, railroad, cattle interests and save it for all citizens.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 221
Militiamen compared to Indian demonstrators
Posted: 12/5/2016 3:27:21 PM
^^Thank Teddy R for starting that. Meanwhile one of the NRA crowd will tell us the "Injuns" got diff'rent treatment b/c they didn't have guns. Guns keeps the government out. Except members of MOVE in Phillie might disagree. Remember, children, justice is always color blind.

And mean the while, that terrible warehouse fire in Oakland....welcome to a world of Chump and getting rid of all those awful, awful government regulations. Those artsy fartsy types paying only half the market rent, gettin' by on the system. To a young mind, i'm sure the Bohemian letout is romantic, there's a similar warehouse-turned-art-space in my state. But to an adult mind, they see the extension cords and half ass construction work that isn't up to code (oh, those job killing codes the construction guys keep complaining about that kill all those jobs in the Midwest). All those poor people dead, but at least they beat those job killing, life strangling government evil regulations. Can't imagine why the government has to be so evil and put all these regulations on us. Those damn nanny-staters. Why can't they leave us alone to build a ticking timebomb like the Ghost Ship out in Oakland?

At least we have Chump, who will kill two regulations for every new one. Two birds for every one stone around our neck. Hurrah! maybe we'll have some more Oaklands as a result of freedom!
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 222
Militiamen compared to Indian demonstrators
Posted: 12/6/2016 4:12:47 AM
So Trump is responsible for Oakland? LOL. LOL LOL

You people kill me.


Oakland is the victim of leftist"we are so PC that we don't want to disturb those would-be hippies living in an unsafe place."

I am glad to see and support the Native Americans as they take a clue from the the anti-illegal immigrant and unmanaged immigration Trump supporters and realize that if they don't seek to protect themselves, their land and resources, no one else will.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 223
Militiamen compared to Indian demonstrators
Posted: 12/6/2016 7:59:49 AM
that must be why they built a wall to keep out the white protesters. Oh wait, that was the North Dakota police plan, until they backed away from spot checks for residency. Wasn't that ironic. It is nice to see that when US veterans showed up, suddenly there was a solution. I guess dogs biting veterans, explosions injuring their arms, and spraying them with water and pepper spray makes for bad press.

those poor militia groups--if only the wanna be Navy SEALS and Green Berets hadn't been lying about their service.
 Llove2LaughToo
Joined: 4/14/2018
Msg: 224
Militiamen occupy U.S. national parks building in Oregon
Posted: 7/10/2018 10:44:28 PM
Hey look, Comrade Trump pardons two terrorists.

#VoteRepublicansOut2018


Trump pardons Oregon ranchers who sparked 2016 militia standoff

President Donald Trump has pardoned two Oregon cattle ranchers whose sentence for arson led armed militiamen to seize control of a wildlife refuge in 2016.

Dwight Hammond, 76, and his son Steven Hammond, 49, were convicted in 2012 after a prescribed burn on their land spread to nearby public lands in 2001.

The pair served time in jail, but a judge later ruled that they must serve their full five-year sentence.

The ruling sparked anti-government protests that left one rancher dead.

"The Hammonds are devoted family men, respected contributors to their local community and have widespread support from their neighbours, local law enforcement and farmers and ranchers across the West," the White House said in statement on Tuesday announcing their full pardon.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44775113
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 225
Militiamen occupy U.S. national parks building in Oregon
Posted: 7/11/2018 4:59:47 AM
Yep, he's REALLY trying to win friends amongst the extremists. Those who understand the impact these two home-grown terrorists had amongst a minority of Americans, will understand what this pardon really means. Chump is truly trying to sew up his base, and how concerned he is to do this. I would love it if any law enforcement organization had something to say out loud about this, and its ramifications for future standoffs.
 from site to sight
Joined: 11/30/2007
Msg: 226
Militiamen occupy U.S. national parks building in Oregon
Posted: 7/11/2018 6:51:37 AM
Is this another case of "There are good people among those extremists/terrorists"? It's funny that he doesn't say the same thing about football players who take a knee during the playing of the anthem. He says there are all SOB's who should all be fired-even though they are being peaceful about it. Maybe the football players should be carrying loaded guns while playing the game to get some respect from Trump.
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