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 halcyon_skies
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As for the title about hiding your political affiliation: At what point do you reveal your affiliation? It would suck to go on a bunch of dates that are going well, and then they find out one person is a Trump hater and the other is a Trump lover, or one is pro-life and the other is pro-choice, and they don't want to associate with people that have the opposite views. Shouldn't deal breakers be revealed even before the first meet, to save a lot of grief?


I agree that they should be revealed IF they are indeed, deal-breakers. The tricky part is discovering what each of your deal-breakers are before the first meet. Usually you will have to meet the other person a few times before they come to light. Hopefully, that will occur before sex.
 south_city
Joined: 10/12/2013
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Posted: 1/25/2018 8:49:27 PM

I get what you're saying, but then I see that as intolerance of other's choices, a problem I see among democrats.


It's not intolerance. It's more about not being compatible with someone who has vastly different beliefs and viewpoints. Just like someone who is religious may want to date people from the same religion.

Also it can be about why a person voted for a candidate. If someone voted for Trump because they didn't like HRC or they thought Trump would be good with the economy, I could respect that viewpoint even though I may not necessarily agree with it. However if someone voted from Trump because they liked his inflammatory rhetoric about various groups, that could be a dealbreaker.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 1/25/2018 9:23:45 PM
I've never seen anyone I know agree with intolerance, but it also depends on what is considered intolerance. I don't want to get into arguing over issues here, but take illegal aliens, I don't think there's anything wrong with deporting them as we've always done. It's said Obama deported more illegals than any other president.

In all my dating years, I've never qualified a date by asking what party they belong to. I don't care. If someone likes to talk politics 24/7, then maybe it could be a point of contention. I don't care to talk politics with a bf or husband. Politics is not an interest of mine with being a passion. If a guy wanted to talk politics every day, whether republican or democrat, the incompatibility would be right there, about it not being a shared interest.
 browneyesboo
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Posted: 1/26/2018 6:50:36 AM

It's not intolerance. It's more about not being compatible with someone who has vastly different beliefs and viewpoints. Just like someone who is religious may want to date people from the same religion.

Also it can be about why a person voted for a candidate. If someone voted for Trump because they didn't like HRC or they thought Trump would be good with the economy, I could respect that viewpoint even though I may not necessarily agree with it. However if someone voted from Trump because they liked his inflammatory rhetoric about various groups, that could be a dealbreaker.


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 Ladyinred0407
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Posted: 1/26/2018 2:06:30 PM
LOL, My political views..................There are differences of opinions, different political party choices, within my family members, between my friends and between me and my BF. A few of us voted for Hillary, the others Trump.
We don't treat it as though it is life or death. Cause you know what? It is NOT life or death!

Whether or not, one is a Republican or a Democrat, ................we eat the same and we ...........the same. You get the picture.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
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Posted: 1/26/2018 2:22:18 PM
I can't blame people for not liking HRC, she was a terrible candidate choice--it was like giving the finger to Republicans. If someone told me they thought a businessman would be good for the economy, I may even agree if they made a good argument. But could they argue that the type of businessman Trump is--selling himself as a brand for others to buy the rights to--is the type of businessman that America needs? I won't be able to agree with that.

With Trump comes along an entire ideology, I think we all agree to that. Some people voted Trump for one or two things (ie, they always vote Republican, or they wanted a Supreme Court justice, for example) , but a lot voted for the ideology. And that's where we may differ with someone's political affiliation.

"Its said Obama deported more illegals"

>>>and yet, there's a ton of Trump supporters who argue that fact. Obama gave them what they wanted, but instead they'll claim he was soft on immigration, and in the other matters section, there's a supporter who says Democrats are out to destroy America b/c they want immigration. How many Trump supporters claim HRC was going to extend Obama policies, now say that Obama's policy was to deport a lot of immigrants, which is exactly what they want? I mean, does that sound like logical reasoning? unless you aren't looking to date someone who does logical reasoning, but for some people, its a red flag, just sayin'.

Its one thing to ignore the facts, its a tad inflammatory to claim the opposite of reality occurred. We can point out that Reagan had an amnesty for immigrants, and Trump supporters will try to ignore it, deny it, or pass the buck. if you can't deal with the facts, well, fine...but a lot of people aren't going to put up with a relationship partner who insists on doing that.

one step further: my home state is as blue as the sky, but if you go to the eastern half, its red state Trump as can be. And if you take a road trip right down Route 12 that runs thru it, you can see why. Its rural, the factories are shut down, and the jobs are minimum wage. Just like parts of the Midwest and Southern states that voted for Trump. They want change, they (This corridor is nicknamed the Dark Corridor, from the lack of lighting at night usually found in industrialized areas) want to stop being ignored and left behind as the cities get the investment. The news interviews a guy from this corridor about why he voted for Trump, and that's what he says.

and he's right.

Fine, I agree with him. our home state has focused more on failing cities outside this corridor, giving them sports arenas, convention centers, colleges, and other stuff that's supposed to bring in the crowds and their money to spend, and his section of the state gets left behind, they get none of that stuff. he's totally right.

but then he goes on...he owns a business in this corridor. And he wants to see the people here come closer to a middle class income. And the Democrats want to raise the minimum wage to $15. So he won't vote Democrat.

well, who does he think is going to make his neighbors get a middle class income? he sure doesn't want the state to hand out the dole. so, it must be business like him, right? He's complaining about the problem that he causes, and he could solve. He doesn't need Donald J Trump, he could do his own part to help his neighbors get paid more.

instead, he'll vote to stop him from doing his part to solve his own problem. He wants people to make more, so they'll spend more at his place, but he won't contribute to people making more so they can spend more at his place. I don't have to judge his political values, to realize he doesn't want to be part of the solution. But, to some ears, it sounds like i'm doing just that.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 1/26/2018 3:09:04 PM
Sanctuary cities is being soft on immigration. But, the thread is about whether you want to reveal your political affiliation☺
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
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Posted: 1/26/2018 3:31:39 PM
Actually, most sanctuary cities are a result of...not having the budget to do the work of the Federal Government. Some find that they get more done with the community, when the community is not terrified of being deported (more vaccination, more crime tips, etc). I'm not saying this to argue, just to say the issue is complicated.

but some people do not like complicated, they like simple. Will people who prefer life to be black and white, want to date people who see their world in shades of grey? perhaps not, which gets us back, at least in this day and age, to political affiliation. at least for some people :) they find politics to be intertwined with ideology.
 ohenryx
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Posted: 1/26/2018 7:18:14 PM
https://www.npr.org/2014/01/27/267145552/the-middle-class-took-off-100-years-ago-thanks-to-henry-ford

In 1914, Henry Ford started paying his workers more than double what anyone else was paying for factory work. And it stabilized his work force (who in his right mind would leave a job paying double the average wage?), and it meant that the people working in his factory could afford to buy the cars he was producing. Which also had an amazing effect on his bottom line.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 1/29/2018 7:43:03 PM
Mustang, you're such a sweet talker ☺ Blah, blah, blah. Yeah I've heard it a hundred times on tv, about if illegals aren't scared, they report crimes. They need to report themselves for being criminals. I don't discuss politics with dates, and ideology never seemed to be an issue when pertaining to other aspects of life.
 gtomustang
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Posted: 1/30/2018 9:43:35 AM
As the article also points out, higher pay reduces worker turnover. Workers are like customers--it costs more to find, attract, and establish loyalty in new ones, than it costs to just keep the old ones. As business people used to say, "it takes money, to make money". Then those innovators passed on, the kids take over, and all the work they want to do is open the front door and be told what pillars of the community they are. Of course, there was something else beginning in the world in 1914, too :) But its solid economic theory--if you want to sell a product, you need customers with cash free to spend. Someone has to get your customers the money to buy your product (but not too much, or you may have inflation).

"if illegals aren't scared, they report crimes."

>>>they'll also go get medical services, which can reduce spread of illnesses in a community. And as the Baby Boomers retire and die off, we lose them as customers. If immigrants can get jobs and pay into Social Security, they can help the BB, they may make enough money to become customers, and keep a micro economy afloat. For every immigrant dropping a gun on a dock, there's a crazy white dude shooting up a concert from a hotel room.

its a very complicated subject. Like a sloppy dinner, its probably not the first thing to engage in on a date when you're trying to make a good first impression, as the pasta spinning on your fork slings tomato sauce everywhere and the garlic scents the room :)
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 1/30/2018 3:28:52 PM
I feel so accomplished right now, because I know how to spin pasta on a fork without my shirt looking like a spatter scene from a crime☺
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 1/30/2018 3:35:37 PM

I know how to spin pasta on a fork without my shirt looking like a spatter scene from a crime

Well, if it's with Alfredo sauce and not marinara, it'll be looking like a splatter scene from a porn, instead! :)
 dragonbytes
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Posted: 2/19/2018 2:15:28 PM
They do have two trump dating sites.

Trump dating and trump singles.
 dragonbytes
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Posted: 2/19/2018 2:29:31 PM

I get what you're saying, but then I see that as intolerance of other's choices, a problem I see among democrats.


A number 1 cause among republicans and conservatives is a desire to legally restrict women's choice on abortion. I think republicans and more vocal about that than democrats are to want to restrict gun rights.
 Magellan2017
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Posted: 3/1/2018 9:13:47 PM
I think people intending on dating should be up front from day one about their political beliefs. Because a person's chosen political affiliation often speaks volumes about them as a person, their goals, aspirations, character, values, etc. I comment those who do even if they are of a party opposite of mine. It can spare much grief later on knowing you would not be compatible.
 Strawberry_Jello
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Posted: 3/1/2018 10:12:53 PM
I don't have ANY republican friends. NONE. It happens naturally. I talk to people about my beliefs. I don't have to ask who they voted for because they tell me what they think in general, so I know who they voted for.

I talk to Trump voters IRL, my insurance agent, small business owners, etc. I don't argue with them, I might ask them what they think about something so I can better understand their point of view.

Not taking away anyones free speech. You are free to say whatever you want. I am free not to listen. That's free speech. I'm sure they have people on FB happy to read what they post. Restricting free speech is when someone is prevented from speaking. No trump supporter is prevented from saying whatever.


I get what you're saying, but then I see that as intolerance of other's choices, a problem I see among democrats. I don't see pof men saying we won't get along if you voted for Hillary. I see this as phony anyway, because I do not believe these democrats apply the I'm not dating republicans to their friends, and why not? Sure, if you divulge who you voted for, they want to silence you and delete you as a fb friend, because they're cowards, but are all their friends IRL democrats? I think not. Do they ask all fb friends to say who they voted for so they can delete all of them, nope. They only want to silence those that speak up. Intolerance and wanting to take away free speech.
 Seki1949
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Posted: 3/2/2018 12:09:45 AM
I can not tolerate criminal acts. I will not date anyone who votes.
 ohenryx
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Posted: 3/2/2018 11:07:25 AM

browneyesboo
It's not about politics.
It's about human rights, equality.
and the right to make personal choices.
It's about sociability acceptable behavior.
I would not get along with anyone that supports
Trump and what he's about.

Gads.

I was swiping my way through Tinder the other day and ran across these words from a woman:


I’m an open minded Trump voting Christian

The irony of it all!!!
 MachIMustangII
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Posted: 3/2/2018 3:36:40 PM
^^^the mindset is indeed interesting. I live in a homogeneous town, where residents insist they are not racist b/c they don't burn crosses or deny their neighbors. Of course, there's not much opportunity. But ask them why they don't shop at the Wal Mart 20 minutes away in a town with a large Hispanic population...and you can guess what is said. But they aren't racist.

If we create ourselves a bubble, and with the internet that's really easy, then we can convince ourselves that we do no wrong inside our little bubble. I can see someone saying they are open minded about everything they watch on Fox News, and truly believe it and see no irony. they won't give off the classic body language of a liar, b/c they don't believe they are lying and have anything to cover up or explain.

and yes, I know, there are people on the left who accomplish the same thing. I picked one example so I wasn't being confusing talking about two examples. But when I argue with people "From the other side", I try to remember, they really believe what they are saying. they aren't always trying to deceive, they believe they see reality.

there are scientific studies, we believe what we believe, because of the way our brains are hardwired. we may chose emotions over logic. Simple versus complex. we might fight for the rights of the individual over the rights of the group. what our brain reacts to strongly, can determine which political group we side with. and politics, at their heart, is all about how we handle problems in society.

even the people who are apolitical...are telling us something about themselves.
 Seki1949
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Posted: 3/2/2018 5:22:38 PM

But they aren't racist.


Maybe more about social class than racism.

Some people like to associate with people like themselves. Oh! The Horror!
 Platinum_Blonde_Angel
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Posted: 3/3/2018 5:33:27 AM

I live in a homogeneous town, where residents insist they are not racist b/c they don't burn crosses or deny their neighbors. Of course, there's not much opportunity. But ask them why they don't shop at the Wal Mart 20 minutes away in a town with a large Hispanic population...and you can guess what is said. But they aren't racist.

If we create ourselves a bubble, and with the internet that's really easy, then we can convince ourselves that we do no wrong inside our little bubble. I can see someone saying they are open minded about everything they watch on Fox News, and truly believe it and see no irony. they won't give off the classic body language of a liar, b/c they don't believe they are lying and have anything to cover up or explain.

and yes, I know, there are people on the left who accomplish the same thing. I picked one example so I wasn't being confusing talking about two examples. But when I argue with people "From the other side", I try to remember, they really believe what they are saying. they aren't always trying to deceive, they believe they see reality.



Maybe more about social class than racism.

Some people like to associate with people like themselves.


I sometimes think it's not so much as a dislike of people who are different, but more of a comfort & security of people who are more or less the same of us. Like immigrant communities, my family came here from Europe, they started out in the East Village of NYC in the Ukrainian area, where there was a Ukrainian Church, 2 Ukrainian butchers, tons of Ukrainians, there still is.

I think w/ subsequent generations, it does get more diverse, & as Seki says more about social class.
 MachIMustangII
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Posted: 3/3/2018 9:42:42 AM
oh, I believe both of you are right...its about comfort, and some of these older folks (I bring age into this b/c we notice some youth are more used to mixed race couples, gays in the military, etc than their parents are) aren't comfortable around people who celebrate a culture different from their's. The rhetorical question is, is it racism, or is it prejudice, or is it bias, or is it familiarity, or is it nostalgia, or is it something else?

its human nature to categorize. Is that stranger over there friend, foe, or neutral? its also human to decide that our view on life, is the correct one. one person can say the world is a dangerous place. the other can argue is a wonderful place full of opportunity.

the irony is...both are correct. in a zero-sum game, the winner might write history as heroic. The loser may not see it that way. But they are both looking at the same event.

meanwhile, I can listen to my neighbors complain "immigrants are taking jobs", when in reality we live far, far away from Mexico (which as Trump points out, represents the type of "immigrants we all mean"). A computer is more likely to take their job--when my "assistant" retired before I did, I asked who was going to replace her and was told the computer would do her work and then i'd review it (I asked if I was going to get paid her wages to do her job, and was reminded that her work was poor enough I had been already reviewing it for free these last few years :) ). the last time "immigrants" took jobs, it was Puerto Ricans working the thread mills in the 1960's--and of course, those are American citizens who speak Spanglish and celebrate their culture like an Irish family or an Italian or Swedish or...

http://www.millmuseum.org/history/sweat-of-their-brows/the-puerto-rican-experience/

so, are the neighbors repeating what they heard from someone else? is that racism, or just lazy thinking? that's another rhetorical question, btw. "Racism" may be like the word, "self centered". It may come in degrees. or maybe its like "porn", we know it when we see it. Our political party is never racist, but the other side is. Racism can't be a part of human nature's desire to categorize, so it can't be everywhere.
 ILoveThemSweet2
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Posted: 3/12/2018 6:58:03 PM
The 'human rights' issues come from democrat Clinton supporter bully cry babies who still haven't gotten over losing bigtime, after being promised a 'landslide' by crooked Hillary. Burning down campuses and attacking people for wearing a red hat.
 ThisDuskyJewel
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Posted: 4/7/2018 3:18:23 PM
I used to put my political preference on my profile but I no longer do that and this is why. It never made any difference before and I'm the same person I was before the 2016 election as I am now. I registered to vote on my 18th Birthday in 1986 and I am the same Political affiliation. The same political party my parents were who were a plastics plant worker and a grave digger (my dad) and my mom was a homemaker and the secretary of the cemetery association my dad worked at. Blue Collar Pittsburgh PA suburb.
If we stop picking our Life Partners by who they are , what we have in common, what we want out of life, be open minded and be open to learning new things together, becoming new people together. then why are you here?
I don't want to meet someone who refuses to see another opinion even is that opinion is t!he same opinion I have! everyone is so RIGID! everyone has a belief of that a liberal and a conservative is but we're all individuals and chances are if you go out with someone get to know them and decide you like them and then at the end of the night you find out they are the opposite political party that you are, you will forget you like them and go with your pre-conceived notion of that person per their political party is and go no further.

that is just sad.
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