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 Nancybythebay
Joined: 4/5/2016
Msg: 101
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I read with interest your post, UnluckyB. All that it says rings true. It's a tragic fact of the overwhelming young male suicide rate.

We're talking about an extreme potential consequence of my topic; however it does need to be considered. That's why I suggested counselling for the student and parents....and even peers... if the concept of alternative dressing (to exercise and demonstrate their right / need / choice to feel "equal") actually comes into fruition.
 cassie2425
Joined: 3/4/2016
Msg: 102
Boys wearing dresses at school.
Posted: 4/13/2016 7:00:02 PM
Maybe message #148 can mention where they copied this information or cite their source. Look up "plagiarism ". Or, just coping other people's stuff.

And I find it odd that a gay homophobic Muslim man is calling Tootie by Irish's name. I know a few on here accuse others of being male/female....I still think Dee and Onyx are one in the same and Dee thinks everyone has 8 aliases. It's all weird. Oh, and we are all "maroons".

And Walts is gay??? And this excites Whatsa?? And Dayna, I'm your mate...sorry, someone had to tell you that apparently we are mates, which means friends across the pond.
 Nancybythebay
Joined: 4/5/2016
Msg: 103
Boys wearing dresses at school.
Posted: 4/13/2016 7:20:05 PM
He he hee. It's alright Cassie. I've seen and heard my fair share of crap on here. I've been here on and off since 2008.

The forums fell into a heap many months back after the notorious Tall IQ thread and for a long time afterwards. That's all done and dusted as far as I'm concerned and I'm enjoying being back. I hold no grudges. Nor do I judge. :)
 Whatsamattababy
Joined: 12/24/2015
Msg: 104
Boys wearing dresses at school.
Posted: 4/13/2016 7:47:47 PM

And Walts is gay??? And this excites Whatsa??


Say, whaaa...??

Dude, you must be WAAAY deep down inside my unconscious mind.
 Doremi_Fasolatido
Joined: 2/14/2009
Msg: 105
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Posted: 4/13/2016 7:54:12 PM
Sure, why not let the boys wear dresses to school. Can't help but wonder....For instance. Referencing back on my younger days as a young and vigorous lad in class with girls wearing provocative dressage.. And, please keep in mind this is all speculative on my part based on my experience as a young and hormonally influenced adolescent.

Well, what I am wondering is would the young ladies be tempted to peek up a guys skirt if he happened to be wearing one? And, does it matter what anyone wears based upon gender? And, if a girl did skirtpeek a boy wearing a skirt and got caught would she get the same talking to as a guy would? Or, would the young skirt wearing male be tempted to show more based upon enhanced skirt wearing exposability?

Could give a whole new meaning to "Hanging out with friends".
 chinook1111
Joined: 4/1/2016
Msg: 106
Boys wearing dresses at school.
Posted: 4/13/2016 8:16:05 PM
Of course girls would peek.

But something else just flashed through my mind.

A male wearing a dress could very easily expose his manhood going commando.

So a very bad idea.
 cassie2425
Joined: 3/4/2016
Msg: 107
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Posted: 4/13/2016 8:19:02 PM
Sorry Whatsa, I totally misread your post #145.

I had to go back and double check as to who was "perverted", I was disappointed too.

And skirts, peeking...I've peeked up a few kilts. Some are commando and some aren't. I believe tradition is commando. It all sounds very manly.

VVV

I don't know...how many birds can a Scotsman fit up his kilt?
 Doremi_Fasolatido
Joined: 2/14/2009
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Posted: 4/13/2016 8:40:19 PM
#157, your post about kilts reminded me of a joke.... How many birds can a Scotsman fit up his kilt?
 norwegianguy456
Joined: 6/11/2015
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Posted: 4/13/2016 11:10:10 PM

What does wearing dresses have to do with being gay? Gay males are attracted to masculine things.

And most who wear dresses are attracted to masculine things. It doesn't Mean you're gay if you're a guy wearing a dress (the assumption that those who wear dresses are attracted to males). You could be, like Bruce Jenner claimed at least at first (haven't followed Kardashians), was that he was still into women -- so he was a wanna-be lesbian. A true cross-over! :)

I think it's misogynistic to perpetuate this attitude that a man is somehow making a fool of himself by wearing a dress or being feminine. It's basically saying that women are worse than men and men should not emulate women.

I disagree. It's not misogynistic and due to looking lower at women at all. Otherwise you'd see very stark similarities in reactions to people emulating young teens in what they wear. It hits a very different chord than that and many others. The disdain toward it is centered around believing that they aren't Really like that thru and thru. People suddenly became OKAY with feminine guys -- they help decorate your house and give you fashion advice. ;) It's not about merely being feminine -- but about one parading/expressing strongly that they Are in Fact a Woman -- stronger than some gals out there, too -- when they're a dude.

Of course that's going to raise some eyebrows -- and one shouldn't complain about that. But yeah, going off on them and not just moving on, is where the problem is. If one believes the guy Really isn't a woman with biological-flub of male genetalia and male body structure/hormones, and much of it's due to being different & wanting attention -- then ignoring it would solve the problem, and that's what those irked with it need to remember.

"Women wearing pants and cutting their hair short and looking boyish = COOL!!!!" and "Men wearing dress = EVIL!!!"

But those don't hit on the same wavelength, tho. The first one isn't necessarily a transgender endeavor -- where the other one pretty much is. A tomboy with short hair wearing baggy jeans and a hoodie doesn't send off vibes of "Tranny". :) She could even be straight!
 Coma_White
Joined: 9/15/2013
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Posted: 4/14/2016 12:20:23 AM

But those don't hit on the same wavelength, tho. The first one isn't necessarily a transgender endeavor -- where the other one pretty much is. A tomboy with short hair wearing baggy jeans and a hoodie doesn't send off vibes of "Tranny". :) She could even be straight!


That's where the double standard lies. You said it yourself that a man wearing an article of women's clothing sends of vibes of being a "tranny" while a woman wearing men's clothing doesn't. Why do we look at men differently than we look at women, and hold them to a different standard? There's no technical difference in a man putting on a dress than a woman putting on a suit from the men's department. It's your reaction to it that's different.
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 111
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Posted: 4/14/2016 4:21:36 AM

That's where the double standard lies. You said it yourself that a man wearing an article of women's clothing sends of vibes of being a "tranny" while a woman wearing men's clothing doesn't. Why do we look at men differently than we look at women, and hold them to a different standard? There's no technical difference in a man putting on a dress than a woman putting on a suit from the men's department. It's your reaction to it that's different.


I'm agreeing here on this one. I don't know if it's a double standard but, there is something different about the whole line of thinking.

In today's world, we agree that women/girls should have no boundaries on what they can do with their lives. Universities had to be told to supply equal amounts of money to women's sports team as their men's teams is just one example. Clothes, just another. How about two women making love/having sex? A lot of people don't have a problem with viewing. Change the genders in that one, and watch the tude change. Two women in this scenario has/can be described as beautiful, erotic or whatever. Never heard any of that when two men are doing what they do.

We humans are just a tad confusing sometimes.

Okay, more than sometimes.
 Hair2day_gone2morrow
Joined: 4/7/2016
Msg: 112
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Posted: 4/14/2016 4:23:00 AM

Why do we look at men differently than we look at women, and hold them to a different standard?

Because, genetically, evolutionarily & neurologically, we ARE DIFFERENT.
 kj521
Joined: 9/20/2015
Msg: 113
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Posted: 4/14/2016 4:28:38 AM
"Change the genders in that one, and watch the tude change. Two women in this scenario has/can be described as beautiful, erotic or whatever. Never heard any of that when two men are doing what they do. "


Follow that thought through, Mr. Walts.......

WHO primarily finds two women together beautiful? And why? :)
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 114
Boys wearing dresses at school.
Posted: 4/14/2016 4:47:48 AM

WHO primarily finds two women together beautiful? And why?


I know what gender we assume finds two women together beautiful and I know what gender we assume watches a lot of porn. It's a given men are the pervs or sexual deviants, isn't it? So, yes, "primarily" I guess we can say men are the ones doing the judging. But, in the reality of it all, can we? Anyone know of any survey to confirm or deny? How about life experiences? I believe there are many variables here, just as with a lot of this gender stuff.

I live in the Vancouver area. "Stuff" that I have seen, witnessed, and experienced will differ from other areas. My out of town visitor friends and family have confirmed this, more than once. Our transgender/gay parade is one to die for, and I'm not usually a fan of parades, as one example alone. When I was growing up, I know that my parents never took me to one. More than enough children and other family members attending at ours here. It's quite the scene for people that never witnessed it before.
 Doremi_Fasolatido
Joined: 2/14/2009
Msg: 115
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Posted: 4/14/2016 6:09:09 AM
#157, sorry about the delay in answering but the 2 in 10 posting rule here prevented me from answering earlier...

How many birds can a Scotsman fit up his kilt? Depends upon the size of the perch so it's a variable amount.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 116
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Posted: 4/14/2016 6:33:38 AM
""Because, genetically, evolutionarily & neurologically, we ARE DIFFERENT."""

Unfortunately, many here and in society in general are becoming divorced from that reality.
 Hair2day_gone2morrow
Joined: 4/7/2016
Msg: 117
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Posted: 4/14/2016 7:28:22 AM

""Because, genetically, evolutionarily & neurologically, we ARE DIFFERENT."""

Unfortunately, many here and in society in general are becoming divorced from that reality.

We truly are so DNA driven...I recall getting Dr. Joyce Brother's book back in 1983 before my 1st marriage. She so eloquently wrote about the differences & was so ahead of her time in the pop psychology genre.

Women's corpus callosums are way thicker/larger than a man's (the structure that connects the right hemisphere of the brain w/ the left hemisphere) hence their superior ability to multitask & general proficiency in language skills.

Men tend to be more "tunnel-vision" in their neural processing, hence their superior spatial relationship processing.

There is way, way much more, but she really brought it down to the level of a lay person, rather than an evolutionary biologist's handbook.

Used copies still exist on Amazon & Ebay.
 cassie2425
Joined: 3/4/2016
Msg: 118
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:24:17 AM

Because, genetically, evolutionarily & neurologically, we ARE DIFFERENT.


Of course we are different - we are different colours, different heights, different weights, different hair colour/eye colour and different genders which also incorporates gay, lesbian, transgender, transexual, asexual and a mirade of otherdiffences and similarities in there. Hell, hundreds of years ago the Native Americans called gay people "two spirited". This LGBT thing is not new.

And you know, I've read a ton of Dr. Joyce Brothers books and Helen Fischer and more but people like Dee will drag out some discredited DR. to back up their negative and ultra conservative opinion. Which I guess is fine, we all have our opinion, until you start telling people who are "different" that they have a mental disease.

The LGBT movement use the rainbow to show that there are colours out there, it isn't black and white...and its so much more than grey.
 Inner_Gorilla
Joined: 12/3/2015
Msg: 119
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:31:12 AM
Back in the day when I was dating and also racing bikes. We would meet at the bike shop after a ride and start drinking and decide to go bar hopping in our cycling spandex, but to make it even more challenging several of the guys would put a tu-tu on. The idea was to then pick up women, still wearing the damn tu-tu. Low and behold, several of the guys did.

Me. I wore the tu-tu, but I never managed to pick anyone. Yet, I had a hell of an awesome time. I never felt any less of a man.
 Szaszaspasz
Joined: 11/13/2012
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Posted: 4/14/2016 8:56:01 AM
I wouldn't worry one way or the next.

My perception is that some males like female clothes because of a much wider variety in colours, textures and styles.
I just find women's clothes much more expensive and not as durable.
Other than underwear, I wear men's clothing, so why can't men do the same?

I just find dresses cumbersome and impractical, but if someone wants to wear one, go for it.
 Ladyinred0407
Joined: 2/6/2016
Msg: 121
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Posted: 4/14/2016 9:04:28 AM

It also used to be seen as equally unacceptable for a woman to wear pants. In some countries, it still is unacceptable. It would have been seen as "gender bending." Who knows, maybe in the future men will be able to wear dresses without being ridiculed.

I was thinking the same thing ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
When my son was an early teen he came home from summer camp with pictures of himself and other campers. Some of the guys had worn skirts all week. LOL Yes, they did it just for the fun of it, but my son actually admitted, "Wearing a skirt is cooler than shorts".
 Bigguysal
Joined: 1/27/2016
Msg: 122
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Posted: 4/14/2016 9:29:43 AM

Because, genetically, evolutionarily & neurologically, we ARE DIFFERENT.


I have stayed out of this discussion because truth is I could care less about the subject matter. But this statement is accurate. What is not accurate is to say that guys who think like women are mentally ill. Opinions do not changes facts.

Men have more issues than women, because men undergo more changes as an embryo and thus there are more opportunities for things to go wrong. So yes, somewhere in Fetal development, whether by rogue DNA, too many hormones, whatever . . . I'm not a scientific expert in this arena . . . . the brain develops with some abnormalities causing transgender issues. This is not mental illness, simply the draw of the cards . . like blonde hair and blue eyes. Dee can say otherwise until she is blue in the face. The scientific facts are the facts.

My sisters grew up loving dolls and pretty things. I never had the least interest in dolls or pretty things as a boy. I grew up playing Army with toy guns, little green men and battery operated tanks, as well as an anti-aircraft gun that broke the first time I used it because my sister fell on the barrel and broke the gun off its pedestal. I remember watching the show Combat with Vic Morrow . .. later decapitated by a helicopter blade filming the first twilight zone movie. I was just being who my brain told me to be. It was not a choice. It was not environment. It was a foregone conclusion. Same with those who are Transgender. They had no say in the matter.. .. luck of the cards.

But transgender boys should not be wearing dresses to school . . if for no other reason the teasing will likely cause them great psychological harm. When they are older to make the decision for themselves knowing the consequences of their actions . . . its on them to do what they want . . even have a sex change operation if they want to go there.

 Hair2day_gone2morrow
Joined: 4/7/2016
Msg: 123
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Posted: 4/14/2016 10:18:58 AM

I have stayed out of this discussion because truth is I could care less about the subject matter. But this statement is accurate. What is not accurate is to say that guys who think like women are mentally ill. Opinions do not changes facts.

Men have more issues than women, because men undergo more changes as an embryo and thus there are more opportunities for things to go wrong. So yes, somewhere in Fetal development, whether by rogue DNA, too many hormones, whatever . . . I'm not a scientific expert in this arena . . . . the brain develops with some abnormalities causing transgender issues. This is not mental illness, simply the draw of the cards . . like blonde hair and blue eyes. Dee can say otherwise until she is blue in the face. The scientific facts are the facts.


Most people are chromosomally either XX or XY, XX= females, & because there are 2 x's in their genetic make up they have a more diverse chromosomal pairing. Males (XY) have less mixed chromosomes, thus a higher incidence of Ld's & developmental delays such as autism, etc.

There are also people who are XYY or XXY, I do not know if that factors into homosexuality or transgenderism.
But I am getting that you are saying mentally the person is of one gender, but the body does not match.
 Coma_White
Joined: 9/15/2013
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Posted: 4/14/2016 10:27:44 AM

Because, genetically, evolutionarily & neurologically, we ARE DIFFERENT.


That didn't answer the question in any way. Everyone knows that men and women are biologically different. I'm not sure about "evolutionarily" as you put it since that describes how humans evolved as a species, the males and females have always been different. My question was why would we hold men and women as people to different standards? We always hear that men and women should be treated with equal request, make the same wages, be given the same opportunities, do the same time in jail, etc. Why would fashion be the one category where the men and women are held to different standards?
 kj521
Joined: 9/20/2015
Msg: 125
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Posted: 4/14/2016 10:35:57 AM
^^^^^Because we like certain differences. :)

And adults are not "held" to them....you can dress however want but must abide by the rules in certain locations.
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