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 FullMoonGuy
Joined: 3/7/2014
Msg: 201
Gorgeous Women over 50Page 9 of 13    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13)

My grading of people...is how they make me feel about myself.


Did you word that correctly?

MY grading of people.....is how they make me feel about THEM.

I already know how I feel about myself.

If they behave in a manner that makes me feel they are an idiot, well, they get graded as an idiot.


If you have "issues with self esteem", then you would think of yourself as being unworthy, not equal to, lesser than other people


Well, I guess I have no "issues with self-esteem".
"lesser than other people"?
It is to laugh.


They may have low opinions of themselves and others


I have the "others" part covered.
 Ouija2025
Joined: 6/11/2014
Msg: 202
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/29/2016 4:53:48 PM
How and what is the tests re grading/rating leagues? Do I get points for being a natural blonde but lose them for being tall?
Can I cheat and buy extra points
I do find the " dating down" to not be a lack of self esteem but rather a lack of fuking common sense. And for some a lack of self awareness and a mirror
Like when they say dating down is a 5, and if I did have the magic scale, I would say
"really, you rank a 2 " So you are actually dating UP
 Ladyinred0407
Joined: 2/6/2016
Msg: 203
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/29/2016 4:58:59 PM

.................when I have dated from here I didn't go through all these shenanigans.


(She jumps up and delivers a high five to Kj )
LMAO, When I have dated from here, there, or over yonder, I never even heard of, half this baloney! ?Leagues? Ladders? Date by the day of the week? WTH!!!!!????
SILLY NONSENSE!!!!

I just met, and dated a man who liked me, AND I liked him. Easy peazey!
 kj521
Joined: 9/20/2015
Msg: 204
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/29/2016 5:53:13 PM
Or....you could just give up the online thing and sit outside Bonefish Grill with a martini and wait for a single guy to walk by and ask him if he wants to buy you dinner....like I am doing right now. Lot of the guys already have dates but hey...maybe after two martinis....I won't mind sharing. :)


Haha! Teasing! I'm really not doing that! But I did think about it. ;) ;)



Seriously.....Stop making dating harder than it has to be! Put on your nikes and Just Do It! :D
 _babblefish
Joined: 9/23/2011
Msg: 205
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/29/2016 6:05:51 PM
"Hey wait a minute
Who do you think you are
Comin' on, comin' on
Just like you're some kinda movie star

Well you can say what you like
Be what you wanna be
You can suit yourself baby
But you don't suit me

You're just a 3 dressed up as a 9

You're only, wastin' my time
A 3 dressed up as a 9, hey yeah..."
 Dragracer428
Joined: 1/1/2012
Msg: 206
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/29/2016 6:09:41 PM



Do I get points for being a natural blonde but "" lose them for being tall?""""


FFS have all the short guys whining about not getting dates gotten us to this state of affairs????
 halcyon_skies
Joined: 7/27/2015
Msg: 209
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/29/2016 7:55:05 PM

Because that's life.
Am I responsible for wrapping up fragile egos in cotton? No, not my job.


You're right, it's not your job. Just like it's not his job when he "dates down" and takes out an obese woman because he thinks she'd be an easy mark---then dumps her after they've been intimate. Nope, it's not his job to salvage her hurt feelings, because she was gullible enough to believe he was actually interested in a relationship with her. Okie dokie.
 ThroatLozenge
Joined: 3/2/2016
Msg: 210
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/29/2016 8:15:16 PM
If she only offers high heels, cleavage and sex?

She gets 3-4 dates.

YMMV
 2ufo
Joined: 2/28/2015
Msg: 211
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/29/2016 8:47:32 PM

You're right, it's not your job. Just like it's not his job when he "dates down" and takes out an obese woman because he thinks she'd be an easy mark---then dumps her after they've been intimate. Nope, it's not his job to salvage her hurt feelings, because she was gullible enough to believe he was actually interested in a relationship with her. Okie dokie.


Are you saying that it is his responsibility to make her decisions for her?
Is it referring to another thread or another comment?
Because I really don't see what you mean here.
He made his decisions and she made hers.
It is our responsibility to not intentionally hurt others, but it is not our responsibility to protect other people from their decisions.

This reminds me of Norwegian Guy saying something about taking the little blue pill to have sex with ugly girls for practice. That really stuck in my brain and, like that comment, this 'ladder conversation' has also pointed my mind into previously unimagined territory. I must have a very naïve mind. Dang, when I ordered an ingenious mind, they must have thought I mean ingenuous!
 halcyon_skies
Joined: 7/27/2015
Msg: 212
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/29/2016 9:29:08 PM

It is our responsibility to not intentionally hurt others, but it is not our responsibility to protect other people from their decisions.


It's wrong to lead someone on. At the very least, it's bad karma. If you feel you're "dating down", you shouldn't be with that person at all---unless you're willing to be completely honest with them from the get-go. They deserve to know your intentions toward them, as well as the fact that you think you're "dating down" by being with them.
 flman2015
Joined: 10/3/2015
Msg: 213
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/29/2016 10:16:50 PM


They deserve to know your intentions toward them, as well as the fact that you think you're "dating down" by being with them.


No doubts the woman will be swept off her feet when she learns her date is "dating down"... he should also explain to her why he only dates her on Tuesdays.... (a Tuesday date-down... lucky girl !... LOL)
 2ufo
Joined: 2/28/2015
Msg: 214
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/29/2016 10:18:30 PM
That's just it.
I'm never dating down or dating up.
Everyone has good attributes and bad ones and I'm not looking for the superficial ones (like appearance and money) that this ladder is based on.
Am I dating someone who is obese? Maybe I'm dating him because he's fantastically funny and a great sense of humor goes a long way with me.
Am I dating a guy in a wheelchair? Maybe I'm dating him because he's deeply intellectual and intelligenc* goes a long way with me.
Am I dating someone who is financially well-off? It isn't because he's financially well-off - that doesn't go very far with me at all. Especially if that was the first thing I noticed about his profile.

Am I going to be in a relation with one of these gentlemen?
I don't know, that depends on further dating, his actions and reactions to me, and mine to him.
How do I know my intentions towards him if I don't know him? Dating is seeing if you fit together emotionally, mentally, philosophically and - yes, eventually physically.
I'm not dating a guy because he can impress anyone I know, but because I am impressed with him.

EDIT: *Intelligence. I also like guy who can spell and/or use spellcheck.
 halcyon_skies
Joined: 7/27/2015
Msg: 215
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/29/2016 11:11:45 PM

That's just it.
I'm never dating down or dating up.
Everyone has good attributes and bad ones and I'm not looking for the superficial ones (like appearance and money) that this ladder is based on.


And that's perfectly fine, but then why were you defending Henry's posts about "dating down" and "ladders" when you believe these to be arbitrary social constructs that are meaningless and superficial?

You said:


Sometimes, dating is simply for fun and getting to know people. I think this is what Henry is talking about when he says some men should date simply to learn how to act on a date. Dating both up and down the ladder without expectations for anything other than a good time doing something with enjoyable company without expectations of anything more.


That was not what Henry said, at all. He said men should "date down" so they can use the less desirable women for practice in learning the necessary social skills so as not to come across as desperate and repellent to the women they really want. He didn't say anything about dating these women for a good time and enjoyable company, nor did he say anything about there being no expectations on the man's or woman's part.
 ThroatLozenge
Joined: 3/2/2016
Msg: 216
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/30/2016 5:27:03 AM
Ohenry, you really stirred the pot....
 lilydreams
Joined: 3/4/2016
Msg: 217
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/30/2016 6:39:12 AM
I'm sure more than a few have dated down or dated not so great looking or dated down right ugly as well as down on the ladder and beneath them just to go out for the evening, free dinner and drinks or a weekend away or get concert tickets or a trinket.

The terms dating up or down the ladder or dating out of your league always bugged me. And really, those that put themselves high on the ladder may not be worth it.

What is true is Clooney' s motto of - you can have sex with a 10 but it will cost you a few dinners than having sex with a 5.
 ThroatLozenge
Joined: 3/2/2016
Msg: 218
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/30/2016 6:45:52 AM
I always know when the gal I'm with is physically out of my...league.

She looks...disappointed :(

Hahahahahhahaa


You can say anything you like
But you can't touch the merchandise
She'll give you every pennies worth
But it will cost you a dollar first

You can step outside your little world
You can talk to a pretty girl
She's everything you dream about

Don't fall in love if you do you'll find out she won't love you
She's one in a million girls, one in a million girls

Why would I lie? Why would I lie?
 Abbeyroads
Joined: 2/18/2013
Msg: 219
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/30/2016 7:21:15 AM
There are great women over 50 looking for good partners. As in my case, financially stable, raised a family, have always been athletic, educated with a great job...now what? We want what appeals to us. I usually date 10-14 years younger. Not by choice but by what fits with who I am. It is all so very sad sometimes; but often the fit is a good combination.

I agree with some of the comments that menopause may change a person...btw men go through similar; but in most cases women are so in tune with who they are and what they want...all in a good way.

Don't be scared to get old. Every one on this site is getting older. It is how you feel and live with your age.
 ohenryx
Joined: 3/12/2010
Msg: 220
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Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/30/2016 7:25:34 AM

ClooneysTutor
Ohenry, you really stirred the pot….

Yep, I did. Ain’t it grand? (smile)




Sometimes, dating is simply for fun and getting to know people. I think this is what Henry is talking about when he says some men should date simply to learn how to act on a date. Dating both up and down the ladder without expectations for anything other than a good time doing something with enjoyable company without expectations of anything more.

halcyon_skies
That was not what Henry said, at all. He said men should "date down" so they can use the less desirable women for practice in learning the necessary social skills so as not to come across as desperate and repellent to the women they really want. He didn't say anything about dating these women for a good time and enjoyable company, nor did he say anything about there being no expectations on the man's or woman's part.

Well, yeah, I kinda / sorta did say that. Note the part of your quote that I put in bold, “dating these women for a good time and enjoyable company”.

Now go back to my statement that started this controversy (quoted below), and note the 2 parts that I put in bold letters “have a good time in the company of a woman” AND “show a woman a good time”.



Get a date, go out, socialize, have a good time in the company of a woman. Refresh your social skills, start believing in yourself, that you can get a date, that you can show a woman a good time.


And let me add this about ladders. Ladders do exist. Ladders, scales, leagues, yes, they exist. Those who would argue against them often try to refute their existence by pointing out that different people have different ideas about where one particular person fits on the ladder. This does not refute the existence of the ladder, it just means that everyone has their very own idea of the ladder, and where others fit.

I firmly believe that the very best, long lasting relationships occur when both parties feel that they are dating up. And yes, good people, that does happen. I have experienced it, more than once, and it was wonderful.

ON EDIT:
To Abbeyroads, above ^^^^
Yep, I can see where you would date men 10 to 14 years younger. The bathing suit pics would definitely open that door for you. You seem to be in the position that Karma aspires to as she gets older.
 lilydreams
Joined: 3/4/2016
Msg: 221
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/30/2016 8:35:44 AM

I usually date 10-14 years younger. Not by choice but by what fits with who I am.


Not by choice? Those 50 year old guys just fall into your vagina by accident?

And Henry, Karma is dating dating a 50 year old that can't get it up, she should chat with lady and find out if it's the norm.
 ThroatLozenge
Joined: 3/2/2016
Msg: 222
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/30/2016 8:42:47 AM
Abbeyroads is a toe curler for sure :)

And...Karma has exited the facility.

Perhaps Viagra has saved the day.
 lilydreams
Joined: 3/4/2016
Msg: 223
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/30/2016 9:06:16 AM
^^^ She will be back chasing 27 year olds once her bruised ego settles down.

I just can't believe that once you e allowed someone else inside your body that you can't manage a discussion afterwards. The "oh, I just can't bring myself to talk about something so personal".... Geez, you just had his penis in your mouth. It's not there now, so talk and talk until whatever issue is resolved.

And Henry, when you stirred up the cauldron, you weren't totally wrong. Not buy a long shot. I did not read "date and disrespect" anywhere in your post.
 halcyon_skies
Joined: 7/27/2015
Msg: 224
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/30/2016 9:16:32 AM

Well, yeah, I kinda / sorta did say that. Note the part of your quote that I put in bold, “dating these women for a good time and enjoyable company”.

Now go back to my statement that started this controversy (quoted below), and note the 2 parts that I put in bold letters “have a good time in the company of a woman” AND “show a woman a good time”.


Get a date, go out, socialize, have a good time in the company of a woman. Refresh your social skills, start believing in yourself, that you can get a date, that you can show a woman a good time.Message 159:


Sure, Henry, you backpedaled in later posts, but you didn't say this in your original post that I responded to in message 159:


Abelian used to advise men on this site to pay for it if they needed to, in order to avoid coming off as desperate. Women can smell desperation on a man, and it is a very powerful anti-attractant. I have advised men (on here, and in real life) to "date down", for the same reasons. Get over being desperate, get in some practice at the basic social skills, get comfortable (after a 20 or 30 year hiatus) with the whole idea of dating.


This, I do agree with:


And let me add this about ladders. Ladders do exist. Ladders, scales, leagues, yes, they exist. Those who would argue against them often try to refute their existence by pointing out that different people have different ideas about where one particular person fits on the ladder. This does not refute the existence of the ladder, it just means that everyone has their very own idea of the ladder, and where others fit.


I just believe you shouldn't date someone if you feel you're out of their league (or they're lower on the ladder than you are). It smacks of insecurity---plus, there's a much greater chance for someone to get hurt due to the power imbalance it can create in the relationship.

Personally, I wouldn't even want to date a man who thought he was "out of my league". I'd much rather be with a man who thought he was lucky to have me in his life.
 Whisky_River
Joined: 12/2/2015
Msg: 225
Gorgeous Women over 50
Posted: 4/30/2016 9:34:35 AM
You're right Halycon...he did do some back pedaling.
Henry...has never pretended his bar was high in the realm of his dating or obtaining "sex"....
I have pointed it out several times.

Personally, I wouldn't even want to date a man who thought he was "out of my league". I'd much rather be with a man who thought he was lucky to have me in his life.

Bingo!! Nor would I date someone I thought as "practice or below me"....apparently, some women think it's alright...smh!
Hard to try to change the mindsets of men...when we have to combat some women, thinking it's ok to be treated as "less than"...Fu'd up!!
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