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 Inner_Gorilla
Joined: 12/3/2015
Msg: 26
No DinnerPage 2 of 16    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16)
You strike me like one of those guys that like to impress women by throwing money at them. Buy this, buy that. So you get used. You're a victim of your own stupidity.

I love dinners. I love expensive restaurants. I love damn good food, excellent service and dates and women.
I also liked to eat well on dates. But the problem you describe is one of your own creation. The moment women see guys throwing money at them, they stop caring about you because they see you as trying to buy them. As a revenge, they will eat all the food, expensive wine you throw at them, and then give you a peck on the chic and goodbye.

And you know what you deserve it.

I am an a ss hole, so I don't care. So when I went on a date, I picked Tapas places. Or sat at the bar. The idea was that we were there for ONLY drinks. Or one appetizer. Not the show off how much I have type of crap. Also, if they offered to pay for half. I accepted. The communication was such that they were there because they liked me, not because of what I could get them. They even offered to buy drinks on the next venue.

So. You create the connection. If you come across as a wallet. That is all you are. Decide what you want to be.
Stop being a victim. Of yourself.
 south_city
Joined: 10/12/2013
Msg: 27
No Dinner
Posted: 5/28/2016 5:01:41 PM

This article is about men admitting that they used women for sex. Of course, this doesn't apply to all or most men. But it does happen


I did not state or imply that only women can use men for things. I brought up the article about free dinners in response to a woman that claimed that there aren't any "diner whores".
 Ouija2025
Joined: 6/11/2014
Msg: 28
No Dinner
Posted: 5/28/2016 5:07:11 PM
Calling a woman a dinner whore because she sits across from you and eats.. which beats sitting sobbing in a pot of KD
Besides over 70 % of the men who post complain about paying for her coffee, so I am guessing we aren't speaking of a 5 star place.
Dinner whore " snicker"
I'm changing my header...
Bet someone offers to super size me :)
 Blonde_Fishie
Joined: 5/13/2016
Msg: 29
No Dinner
Posted: 5/28/2016 5:08:43 PM

Both genders are equally capable of using people.
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I did not state or imply that only women can use men for things. I brought up the article about free dinners in response to a woman that claimed that there aren't any "diner whores".


Yes, we agree then, that BOTH genders have members who use people.
 Whisky_River
Joined: 12/2/2015
Msg: 30
No Dinner
Posted: 5/28/2016 5:09:13 PM
Yeah....That old Believable article.....I was wondering when someone was going to bring it up.
Miss Sporty(real name I'm sure) needed to scam men for meals because she was a starving New Yorker.?
So, she came forward to brag about it.....hahaha.
Guess the gig was up for her(not too bright...is she?) or some people are pretty gullible in believing her story to begin with.

Put it on the same shelf with this guys claim....http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meet-britains-biggest-player-who-7850657
 NYCKOSI
Joined: 4/24/2015
Msg: 31
No Dinner
Posted: 5/28/2016 5:09:48 PM
when a women demands Dinner at a height cost restaurant that I never met before she is a dinner whore. She should know better. in het mind should be if i like the guy that will blow everything apart. I will not even give a woman the 1st chance.

is the reason why I communicate first. ist women I met from online lasted 11 years. I have not had many one time dates. cause most have turned more.
 Ouija2025
Joined: 6/11/2014
Msg: 32
No Dinner
Posted: 5/28/2016 5:43:26 PM
Be happy women want to meet you
And when Men think because they buy a woman a meal she wants their sweaty clumsy self all up in her business
what do you call those Men?
Hmm
I would think
you should have an equally flattering name
Pvssy deprived maybe
 south_city
Joined: 10/12/2013
Msg: 33
No Dinner
Posted: 5/28/2016 6:18:21 PM

Yeah....That old Believable article.....I was wondering when someone was going to bring it up.
Miss Sporty(real name I'm sure) needed to scam men for meals because she was a starving New Yorker.?
So, she came forward to brag about it.....hahaha.
Guess the gig was up for her(not too bright...is she?) or some people are pretty gullible in believing her story to begin with.


Or maybe some people are naive in thinking that women never use men for free drinks, meals etc. Sometimes a woman ( or a man ) will do things that would be strange, illogical, or rude to many or most other people. But that particular woman ( or man ) will justify his/her actions.
 irishgirl772
Joined: 6/3/2013
Msg: 34
No Dinner
Posted: 5/28/2016 7:51:26 PM

when a woman demands dinner

How does a woman demand dinner? You could always so 'No'
 bamagrl68
Joined: 11/14/2010
Msg: 35
No Dinner
Posted: 5/28/2016 8:38:02 PM
NYCKosi- Your stellar writing and spelling skills should suffice to make women swoon. :D
WHY is anyone encouraging this moron?
Dinner whore?!
Christ, what will the butt hurt men crew come up with next?!
Right now, it seems IG, Whiskey River, myself and Ouji are the only ones in this thread willing to tell you like it is.
For the love of GOD, if this is how you feel about women, do us a favor and keep your right hand company, it's going to be your long term dating option as long as you think the way you think!
 ThroatLozenge
Joined: 3/2/2016
Msg: 36
No Dinner
Posted: 5/28/2016 9:41:59 PM
Well, truth be told, I've never had a woman 'demand' dinner.

Howeva....

I have had women agree to my suggestion to meet for drinks somewhere, and then later ask to meet somewhere else.

I don't call these women 'dinner whores'. I call them Venue Changers.

They try to upgrade the date so to speak.

Anytime I've had a negative dating experience, it was located at venue that she chose.

Whether she knew the bartender, chose a venue where you had to pay before seating, or wanted to use me to make someone jealous. All foo foo.

I invite, I pay, on my terms.
 NYCKOSI
Joined: 4/24/2015
Msg: 37
No Dinner
Posted: 5/28/2016 9:51:53 PM
Now now don't get all upset just because I some women dinner whores. They are who they are and that is not going to change.
 ThroatLozenge
Joined: 3/2/2016
Msg: 38
No Dinner
Posted: 5/28/2016 9:56:55 PM
I find the word whore offensive.

The only scenario I can fathom using that label is if she cheated on me.

Simply eating a meal I payed for and not wanting to see me again is just one of the joys of OLD.

YMMV
 LetitiaLeGrande
Joined: 3/22/2015
Msg: 39
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No Dinner for you
Posted: 5/28/2016 10:53:33 PM
I guess a woman is more likely to walk out of a bad meet than a man?? Leaving him with the bill. I am sure that has happened. However I have heard of a woman that had that happen to her and she was left holding the bill. However she alerted the staff and paid her half only. They then could deal with him in some way.

As for a woman demanding a pricey dinner before meeting up. How does that happen? However, if so, then you just pass........

As for using the word "whore" it really means a woman giving sexual services for payment. How does that even equate to the way it is used for free dinners etc?? Women who sleep around for no payment are also called "whores." Need to think of a new term, I think.

 ebolakitty
Joined: 3/19/2016
Msg: 40
No Dinner
Posted: 5/29/2016 4:12:02 AM

How does a woman demand dinner? You could always so 'No'


They do. Pretty much every guy actively dating will verify this. Just saying, "No", doesn't mean that a demand was not made. A lot of women merely suggest that they be taken to dinner. Again, a man can and should say no.

Men are saying "no" more often these days. A big part of it is that the economic realities force them to. Men really shouldn't be paying for dinner when they can't even scrape up the $1.50 for a box of KD. Dinner whoring isn't what it used to be.
 Blonde_Fishie
Joined: 5/13/2016
Msg: 41
No Dinner
Posted: 5/29/2016 5:45:06 AM
I am off the market & haven't done OLD in years BUT...

When I did, I didn't like the idea of dinner WITH A STRANGER, not bec. of the whore/expectation connotation, but...

if the guy was a dud/obnoxious/not-as-pictured, etc. WHY WOULD I WANT TO BE STUCK SITTING THERE OPPOSITE OF HIM FOR AT LEAST ONE HOUR?

Listening to him moan & whine about his ex, baby mama drama, kids, job, other women he met from OLD, etc? Or looking at some dude who looks nothing like his pics? Maybe he has bad table manners, etc. or is stupid, or too sexually aggressive in his speech?

I'd prefer to meet the man for coffee 1st & IF there was chemistry & a mutual like/interest, he'd ask me out for dinner, lunch, etc. bec. HE WANTED TO, not bec. he WAS STUCK.

And if I said YES, it was bec. I LIKED him & saw a POSSIBILITY of a RELATIONSHIP...
 Ladyinred0407
Joined: 2/6/2016
Msg: 42
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No Dinner
Posted: 5/29/2016 7:29:29 AM
During my years of OLD "meets", I always let the man "set the stage".
( I don' t remember any asking me to meet at his place, so I easily dodged that bullet. Although there was the one guy who wanted to leave the Casino with me, to go to his house, and when I declined he ditched me? LOL))

Most often I was asked, "Where would you like to meet?" /"Can I take you to dinner?"
My reply, "Somewhere, halfways, and yes that would be lovely."
Met over 150 men, over approx 3 years, and never, not once, offered to pay.


Only one time, did I catch any grief over that.
I questioned his choice of restaurant, (too expensive) and when I declined to see him again, he mentioned to me how much dinner had cost him when we met in person. I reminded him, HE had chosen the restaurant, not me . He was given other options but chose rather to ignore them and insisted on the "too pricey" joint. His choice, not mine.

Who ever I met, Where ever we met, the average time spent together was 3.5 hours. Two adults, conversing, enjoying a meal, or dessert. Pizza, burger, wings, bbq chicken, picnic with sandwiches, ice cream, pie, ..........................

IF I learned a man refused to offer a dinner date to meet me, because a woman before me tossed her tomatoes off her plate, and onto the table, AND he lost his appetite over this, I do believe I just might be overcome with a fit of the giggles!
 south_city
Joined: 10/12/2013
Msg: 43
No Dinner for you
Posted: 5/29/2016 9:09:03 AM

I guess a woman is more likely to walk out of a bad meet than a man?? Leaving him with the bill. I am sure that has happened. However I have heard of a woman that had that happen to her and she was left holding the bill. However she alerted the staff and paid her half only. They then could deal with him in some way.


If the restaurant or bar somehow tracked him down, it would probably become a he said/ she said situation. He might claim he gave her some money. She was mad because he wasn't interested in her and ended the date early. Thus she was trying to get revenge.
 halcyon_skies
Joined: 7/27/2015
Msg: 44
No Dinner
Posted: 5/29/2016 1:30:52 PM

the handful of men out there who do want a wh0re...look up the cost of a round trip flight to Parumph , Nevada, where prostitution is legal. Then look up The Bunny Ranch & The Chicken Ranch & view the prices on their "menu"!


A man doesn't have to go to Nevada to meet a whore, so there's really no point in insulting that state to get your point across. If a woman automatically expects a man to monetarily compensate her for the pleasure of her company, whether it's for a meal, or just a cup of coffee, that makes her one.
 eg0724
Joined: 4/19/2016
Msg: 45
No Dinner
Posted: 5/29/2016 1:49:55 PM
I think a coffee or ice cream is ideal for a first meet up. More casual setting & doesn't take long.
 Stellan77
Joined: 2/8/2016
Msg: 46
No Dinner
Posted: 5/29/2016 2:55:07 PM
Well, if I want to treat a woman to dinner who I'll never see again, I'll just hire an escort. That's what I'm thinking of doing, not for any sexual service, just because I don't want to spend my next birthday alone. If a woman thinks that a man should pay just because she's giving him his time, why should he choose her over an escort? It's the same thing.
 Blonde_Fishie
Joined: 5/13/2016
Msg: 47
No Dinner
Posted: 5/29/2016 4:02:46 PM
^^why not? think outside of the box! have fun!
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 48
No Dinner, go to my room
Posted: 5/29/2016 4:58:17 PM
Yeah, you mean bastids, stop insulting Nebraska. You'll make it sad, and its too dry to cry. You'll leave it in a state.

I was going to say, the best thing to eat on the date is the date, but I like LIR's idea of a 3.5 hour date with pizza, burgers, wings, bbq chicken, picnic with sandwiches, ice cream, pie....the girl's cooking it for me, right? I think I like that first date.

meanwhile, a woman tossing her tomatoes on the first date? I'd be happy she didn't toss her cookies. you should have put one on the end of her nose, like a rubber clown nose. I hear broads dig a comedian.
 Blonde_Fishie
Joined: 5/13/2016
Msg: 49
not on the menu
Posted: 5/29/2016 5:17:26 PM

tossing her tomatoes on the first date? I'd be happy she didn't toss her cookies


I am waiting for someone to bring up...

tossing salad...


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 BeyondtheMatrix
Joined: 2/11/2016
Msg: 50
No Dinner
Posted: 5/29/2016 7:28:23 PM

I find the word whore offensive.


I don't. It's a word, that's all. It's a word that hasn't injured me or broken into my house or raped my sister or mother or daughter. It's a word that hasn't stood on my foot or smashed me in the face. It hasn't given me a headache or a sneeze or a moment's consternation. No, I don't find that offensive.

What I find offensive is that here in New Zealand there are a growing number of born-and-bred New Zealanders who are homeless and sleeping in cars, according to news reports, and yet our politically correct government, saluting to the United Nations, as always, imports shiploads of cellphone-toting, Islamic young men from Syria and gives them council houses. This will cost the New Zealand taxpayer dearly -- even the homeless in cars, if they can afford to put petrol in them. No, I don't find the word whore offensive. The man is merely writing what's on his mind. He is being honest, which most of society cannot be because of political correctness and 'disapproval.' There is much disapproval. We are drowning in it. We are entrenched in it. We get it in the neck at every turn. Our government, about as judgemental as it is possible for a human being to be, tell us that we shouldn't be judgemental, that we should shut up and do as we are told. And the majority do. They are part of the sleeping masses, desperately asleep at the wheel, as the government drives us more and more towards insanity.


Simply eating a meal I payed [sic] for and not wanting to see me again is just one of the joys of OLD.


One of the joys of old, for me, is reading and listening to poetry, especially English poetry, written by English poets, like Lord Tennyson. I wouldn't include paying for a stranger's meal, male or female, to be part of the joys of old. There are better things to do to excite joy in my heart.

I would suggest to the OP that he decides exactly what he wants. He says that he is only there for the fora and to meet friends, yet he also insists that he is looking for 'long term.' This needs to be ironed out so that there is no confusion.

I wish everyone well here on Plenty of Fish, the world's largest online dating site.

- Peter
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