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 LLove2LaughToo
Joined: 6/6/2016
Msg: 401
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I see the liberal posters above are really starting to worry maybe for the first time about Hillary. Not sure why it took so long but late is better then never.


Hey, look John, another republican flip-flopper. I guess Cruz finally realized he has no conscience.


Ted Cruz Finally Endorses Donald Trump - Trump has insulted Cruz’s wife and repeatedly said Cruz’s father helped kill JFK :

"I am not in the habit of supporting people who attack my wife and attack my father. And that pledge was not a blanket commitment that if you go and slander and attack Heidi, that I am going nonetheless come like a servile puppy dog and say, "thank you very much" for maligning my wife and maligning my father."

https://youtu.be/VE-FrwE3cQI
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 402
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Posted: 9/24/2016 12:48:19 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ap-gfk-poll-majority-of-americans-fear-trump-presidency/2016/09/23/3637ebca-81b8-11e6-9578-558cc125c7ba_story.html
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 403
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Posted: 9/24/2016 2:40:42 PM
That begs the question:

Why doesn't Hillary have a runaway lead?
 FullMoonGuy
Joined: 3/7/2014
Msg: 404
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Posted: 9/24/2016 3:32:16 PM

Why doesn't Hillary have a runaway lead?


Because, unlike Rip Van Winkle, most people have NOT been asleep the last 20 years. (actually 25 going back to 1991)
 LLove2LaughToo
Joined: 6/6/2016
Msg: 405
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Posted: 9/24/2016 3:34:22 PM

Msg: 413
That begs the question:
Why doesn't Hillary have a runaway lead?


The runaway lead will be reflected after election day. Comrade Trump will suffer a crushing defeat by a woman in November.
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 406
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Posted: 9/24/2016 10:09:57 PM
Hillary will never have a "runaway" lead. People that see her for what she is is reflecting her not running away with anything. And her lead in some states will be gone soon. Yikes! Say it isn't so please.....:p
 fishcalledwanda74
Joined: 9/14/2016
Msg: 407
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Posted: 9/25/2016 12:13:03 AM
"why doesn't Hillary have a runaway lead?

Actually, a few reasons.:

1). She has a vagina and vaginas do two things...terrify men because of their power and the second reason is some heard they had teeth (mine doesn't )
2). Men's penis ego can't handle a strong, decisive and strong and super intelligent vagina, if she has heart.
3). When a woman challenges am man in ANYTHING, men interpret it as as a challenge to his penis. "Oh, they don't know where Syria is so now they know about my small penis".
4). They just barely tolerated a black man in the White House (I'm sure a few in KKK robes were a little twisted but so was 30 year old Tommy Redneck grade 10 educated ****tard who supplements his dope dealing and buy diapers for his 3 baby mamas...three baby mamas, just like the Donald....the RNC never sent their brightest.
5). Old boys. Old boys with useless penises that are the power brokers who write the cheques. 3 viagra and a 2 million cheque gives 1 (one) Koch brother a woody but to him it's worth it. Wanker.
6). What if a vagina wins and...and...and....wait for it...what if she's good? What if she's great?
7). Some think the vagina is from the old guard and nothing would change. Well, I see not getting into WW3 with a crazy or two (Trump being #2crazy) a good thing. She negotiates for the good of the people will he bulldozes...which makes his penis look small to the global community , here and probably at home.
8). Both are not the best but he is worse.

And, I somehow think that even though we have come a long way baby* and it is 2016, people,are still wary of a vagina running the country.

But PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE....aren't you tired of the same old PR!CKS running the country?? Get out and vote.

The ** was to denote that I stole that line from a cigarette company add but I just quit after 30 years so they still owe me.
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 408
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Posted: 9/25/2016 5:43:21 AM

1). She has a vagina and vaginas do two things...terrify men because of their power and the second reason is some heard they had teeth (mine doesn't )

1/. Pictures. Or it never happened.
2/. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
2a/. Terrifying men isn't two things, unless there's a comma.
3/. Please say vagina some more.
Thank you.
 billybonds
Joined: 8/8/2014
Msg: 409
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Posted: 9/25/2016 6:19:54 AM
She's horrific. A banker's shill and ailing corrupt shyster. Hope that helps.

on topic.....it's going to be president Donsld Trump isn't it? What a country.

My view is the lovely plump goose is cooked. How hard can it be to keep a knowing rein on a bunch of slippery stupid politicians." Ooh I love Hilary because she's a strong woman. Ooh I love Barack because he's black.....ooh ...oooobeeedoooo.."...etc. Have some respect for yourself. It's not as if you are still young !

An economy is simply what people do, it is only through stupidity, idleness and cowardice that we allow spivs unchecked to enter into it , supposedly, to save us. To declare war on us, divide and rule us, to confiscate our very own wealth, reduce us to slaves , torture us and ****ing butcher us.

I don't know where to start with their faux two- party meddling in our economic life. FDR was a disasterous president,socialising much of America's economy. Milton Friedman...arsewipe..... and Richard Nixon robbed America of its money, forty five years ago. How is it...that people who believe in free markets think a price fixing committee ...FOMC ...is a good idea. Every month this all gets more and more excruciating. Janet yellen is a wretch.

Worldwide monthly Qe has now reached $ 200 billion at least. That is global central banks , mainly at the moment the JCB, ECB and it's nothing to to with me the BOE, Buying stuff with a worthless printed debt currency in the belief that this will engender if not recovery then safety from world wide economic collapse. They are buying negative yielding debt , junk bonds, stocks, car stocks, doughnut chain stocks ..anything and increasingly utter unproductive shit.

Left to themselves, people wouldn't spend their days breaking their own Windows only then to fix them the next. I believe they'd feed themselves and those they loved. But throw up enough fear and intellectual guff and we debt serfs really do get confused. Of course some of you may know all this and indeed benefit from it all, if only for now.

America is broke and for some time. It has tried to cover up its insolvency for forty years with credit cards, the labour of its women , Chinese workers both men and women. And many other Asian people. Why Asian people should produce so Chuck six-pack can consume is amusing.

It's the world's reserve currency , the dollar. Time to see through the smoke and violence of Aleppo. No it's not the botched euro currency and its insolvent banks Whether uni-credit or deutshebank or the abject ground zero that is Japan.

I know China is of late a debt laden disaster zone but China has gold it also was gifted by Wall Street, America's manufacturing base , it's doing very well in many sectors now. I think it has used this fiat currency system and its debt to build itself into a superpower in double quick time. I don't think when the dollar hegemony ends China will go away, for Asians will simply consume at last what they produce. I think the fiat Imf debt currency, the SDR, will be an interregnum on the way to a Chinese imperium. As for America's military fire power I don't know, maybe it will rust. Maybe America will renew itself through hard work.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 410
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Posted: 9/25/2016 6:53:21 AM
If another woman was up for election--Condi Rice, Jill Stein, etc--she might still be disliked for something other than her plumbing. But yep, there are voters who just can't stand bucking the status quo. Meanwhile I have to agree with Billy. All empires fall under their own weight. America's had a long run, a democracy among queens and kings and empires initially. WWI may have been the first death knell of the European Empires, WWII and the fight for the Suez and Vietnam being the final obituary. America lived on credit cards in the 1980's, plenty of economic Zarathrustras were claiming it back in the day. Of course, they also thought the Japanese would take over b/c they save and we don't.

Its our choice to consume and not save, that saved us for so long. We are langua Americana, pax Americana, and currency Americana (so long as the world has to buy oil in terms of our greenback). We are the Golden Goose everyone's afraid to kill--well everyone but Usama Bin Ladin, who wanted to go back to the Dark Ages anyway, but who was going to buy his oil? China survives by selling to us and to the countries we have economic sanctions against, but if it lost those markets, then it has to survive on its own corruption. And we know how long corruption lasts.

China and India has gold, I've heard that from the gold bugs for decades. But gold only hedges against inflation. Gold doesn't increase your holdings, currency just rises and falls in relationship to it. The amount of gold that bought a new Ford in 1932 buys one today. Gold and silver may rise in price when a government is unstable, and ironically, its when people are least likely to spend it...so they don't get the money that they just "Earned". And really, if things are bad...go to Wal Mart and buy food with your gold. If they accept it, it will be at the value they want to accept it at. Gold is something you trade, dollars have an accepted value. $20 is $20, a gold pen is...whatever someone wants to pay for it.
When wealthy people want to increase their holdings, or launder their ill-gotten gains (Wall St would take a dive if all drug profits got pulled out magically), they invest. and Wall St remains the most stable investment in the world, over the years. Naturally, that can change. But it requires a stable marketplace, and a worldwide opinion to keep it afloat no matter what.

Firepower? We still export the most, and its technologically still the best. We're doing bang-up business this week with Israel and Saudi Arabia, which now has a war to use up weaponry on.

The British had an empire by taking over land. We have an empire the rest of the world hands to us. They buy what we sell, its us who buy what the Chinese make for Wal Mart. Can we last forever selling jeans, movies, and jet fighters?
 LLove2LaughToo
Joined: 6/6/2016
Msg: 411
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Posted: 9/25/2016 7:56:32 AM

Msg: 416
Hillary will never have a "runaway" lead. People that see her for what she is is reflecting her not running away with anything. And her lead in some states will be gone soon. Yikes! Say it isn't so please..


Come Tuesday November 8, you are going to be very disappointed.
 FullMoonGuy
Joined: 3/7/2014
Msg: 412
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Posted: 9/25/2016 10:44:48 AM

And, I somehow think that even though we have come a long way baby* and it is 2016, people,are still wary of a vagina running the country.


Back in 2008, during the Democratic primary battle between Clinton and Obama, a woman who was someone important in the Democratic party hierarchy (not an elected official, and I can't remember who it was) was asked by a reporter if the country was ready for a woman president. She replied , "Yes, the country is ready for a woman president, but that woman is NOT Hillary Clinton." She was supporting Obama.



FDR was a disasterous president,socialising much of America's economy.


And yet, this was his rhetoric during the 1932 campaign:

"Roosevelt lashed out at Hoover: "I accuse the present Administration of being the greatest spending Administration in peacetime in all our history."[10] Garner accused Hoover of "leading the country down the path of socialism.""

(Garner was Roosevelt's running mate)

Oh, the irony.

(and the lies)
 billybonds
Joined: 8/8/2014
Msg: 413
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Posted: 9/25/2016 2:48:45 PM
:) I know full moon, they really all are of a same. Reagan post the October 87 crash and his working group on financial markets aka the plunge protection team. Or Reagan again and his "deficits don't matter" or Bill Clinton and his talk of fiscal rectitude whilst Greenspan played fast and loose with the monetary supply that ended in the dot.com bust. Except it wasn't the end as the shrub and Greenspan ignited another bubble in the housing market which didn't end things neither as Bernanke , Obama and Yellen have now blown America's last ever bubble with the whole world economy tilting towards the abyss. This one will play out far worse than anything else in American history, an issue of insolvency is now a coming dollar endgame. I remember Obama rebuking Shrub for doubling the national debt before doing it himself, it's high comedy, roll on the debate, I'm staying up. I look forward to it and all the irony and lies. The joke will be on us after that though.


Great post gtomustang, just one or two points First about gold , fiat currencies like the dollar, yen , euro, pound...sterling ( it means genuine) are designed to Only fall in value against gold. It's why a ford costs far much more dollars today than then it did in 1932 whilst as you pointed out gold has kept its value. These currencies have to be inflated or the economic system dies :) Yes you could still lose money trading gold but not if you know your monetary rhubarb. So the gold bugs are not wrong, always just too early and I grant easy to pat on the head. Second, China , unlike America which is thrashing around Violently in denial, does seem to either by design or happenstance have used America's trade deficit to industrialise, sterilising their fiat dollars earned to keep its yuan suppressed, lending, in effect, Americans Its newly acquired wealth to buy their stuff in Walmart ...other stores are available... Then it started to build a hedge with gold bullion, because America has no intention of ever paying China or any one else in Asia with anything but worthless dollars. The Chinese know this and have piled up colossal pretend debts themselves building out all the infrastructure any nascent geo-political superpower needs as this money printing orgy builds to a cressendo. I figure they figure they can transition their undemocratic system out from under this fiat debt mountain with their increasing advantages whilst America idles in denial.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 414
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Posted: 9/25/2016 4:05:16 PM
Your comment about China reminds me of something amusing about Japan and US Steel. Supposedly, when we got done bombing the Imperial Japanese, we rebuilt them using the latest in 1945 technology, was USS felt they could soldier along with 1920's technology. And of course, Japanese factories hired an American statician to teach them this "new" theory about quality control by testing only small amounts of product coming off the line, in order to accurately represent the condition of the majority of products coming off the line. American corporations couldn't be bothered, b/c hey, the customer is going to buy what we throw on the shelves and they can be the last QC inspector anyway.

I don't know what China spent "Advising" Vietnam while we were, ahem, "policing" in there at the same time. Anyone got the comparison of what they spend on war compared to US over the decades? I can only remember China's border wars with Vietnam and North Korea, and trying to keep the Soviets from encroaching. Even if the Chinese have less defense spending debt, they still have the problem we have--they're importing more oil than exporting. They want that oil pipeline to the Caspian fields. And they've been in Africa buying up every raw material mine they can, and building the "String of pearls" naval bases from the East African coast thru Pakistan. We aren't bumping heads with them, nor the Soviets yet, but....someday....

Its said American foreign policy only worries what's going to happen 4 years out, domestic maybe 2, and financial until the end of the fiscal quarter, then all problems can be handed off or bridges crossed then, while Asians tend to think generations into the future. Somewhere there's a Sinophile who can attest or detest that old saw.
 hgy86ey75fc
Joined: 9/21/2016
Msg: 415
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Posted: 9/25/2016 4:06:47 PM
We are certainly in another housing bubble right now. And yet I do know some insustries are being killed out there. Trucking is hurting and if Trucking is hurting the rest cannot be far behind. Yet people are still spending money in this very old bull market. It is still strong and will not fall just because it is the second oldest in history.

On the other hand, the market does working in Cycles and personally I do believe the next cycle down is going to be devastating once it starts.

Still keep in mind that people have been predicting the Greatest Depression since the eighties and through some of the greatest bull markets in the history of the world. So your opinion that the economy is about to fall off a cliff it's not a unique opinion and has been around forever. It's just that this time such an opinion may be accurate....but when?
 billybonds
Joined: 8/8/2014
Msg: 416
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Posted: 9/25/2016 4:59:43 PM
It's best to step back from the noise and understand since 2009 as a global economy with the dollar at its core we are printing money in increasing amounts, $200 billion a month now, to place a large sticking plaster over a global financial insolvency. Without the money printing the insolvency would have emerged for all to see. Clearly with this monetary nadir the dollar is finished. When? I don't know. But stand back we have interest rates at zero now for eight years. Unprecedented in five thousand years of interest rate history. If zero rates were a good thing you'd think someone would have tried it before, it's disastrous. Money printing , results from economic failure it's the last throw of the dice from a corrupt elite. Don't forget it's the debt. Your pension, your savings and in the end the dollar is going to be sacrficed for a few years of pretending it isn't.
 halforhalfnot
Joined: 9/13/2016
Msg: 417
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Posted: 9/25/2016 5:04:52 PM
There is 1.46 trillion dollars in circulation in hard currency today. Pretty much the same as ten years ago.

In order to buy into this nonsensical world view you have to ignore things like "facts" and "truth."
 billybonds
Joined: 8/8/2014
Msg: 418
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Posted: 9/25/2016 5:29:23 PM
Er there is over $225 trillion dollars in outstanding credit globally .....your country if you had read a post of mine has your national debt at
Close to twenty trillion dollars , so what.... your federal reserve balance sheet is $ 4 trillion, so what ? I think the lovely United Kingdom has
a debt bigger than that that figure . Maybe your figure is actual coins and paper in circulation but apart from pointing out the impossibility of
a mass successful bank run. I fail to see your point. My contention is we have an insolvency problem and the dollar is going to get destroyed
by printing it into extinction or people will eat their loses and we will have a deflationary spiral , either way it's real bad. Feel free to predicate something.
And your point???? Is?
 halforhalfnot
Joined: 9/13/2016
Msg: 419
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Posted: 9/25/2016 5:31:56 PM
He specifically said that the government was "printing" money. 200 billion a month I think. That's how he was pretending that the government was propping up a failing system.

Stuff that is completely out of government control is: your house tripling in value; your portfolio increasing in value.

The interest rates are low because inflation is low. If there was too much money chasing too few goods, inflation would result and interest rates would stay ahead of them.
 billybonds
Joined: 8/8/2014
Msg: 420
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Posted: 9/25/2016 6:08:36 PM
Ooh some one who knows what he's talking about.

On topic... Haft or half not , printing was not meant literally .

I was just pointing out if you read my posts closely ( I don't blame you) that global Qe ( this is where central banks with paper conjured out of thin air purchase assets ,mainly Its own government's debt) I characterised this has printing money or monetising its debt. As I can't see them shrinking their balance sheets without Causing a depression like no other . This malarkey is propping up the global economy . Excessive credit creation while taking place almost completely in the banking system is a central bank - governmental play.....assets stocks real estate and most pertinent, bonds end up with very high prices because of excess currency creation . Half not... there is too much money chasing too few houses ? Right? I don't want you to look too closely at the bond market because the more you know the more you might reach for the whiskey and pistol. But inflated high bond prices means low yields or interest rates, the inverse, got it?

The bond market gives value to every asset on earth and is being wholly faked through central bank- governmental manipulation. Deflation of course exists too and probably lulls a lot of people like you into believing there is no inflation also governments understate inflation. Excess capacity in Asia and global labour costs and excess debt are the key deflationary points. But the global monetary base has been inflated from $6 trillion in 2006 to $21 trillion now so there is no going back. Inflate and die later or die now, take your choice. I think desperate politicians will print they almost always do, hey it worked for Obama.

Gosh I should have gone to bed......believe2 has it all in hand..
 cotter
Joined: 10/17/2005
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Posted: 9/25/2016 6:11:08 PM
Not one Fortune 100 CEO is backing Trump even though most are Republicans and backed Mitt Romney previously. Any Republican with a brain or an education is not supporting Trump, including dozens of Republican Senators and Governors.

Think about what Hilary was doing all those years Trump was denying African Americans the right to live in his housing residencies and ask yourself who's more fit to be our president.
 flman2015
Joined: 10/3/2015
Msg: 422
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Posted: 9/25/2016 9:12:43 PM


Some of the comments from the deplorables in this thread regarding the economy in general - money supply, bonds, deflation, etc - indicates that they probably obtained their knowledge of economics from counterfeit fortune cookies.

Amazingly, caligula duck is supposed to have an economics degree from Wharton. His daddy must have bought it for him because his knowledge of economics is roughly equal to Biff Tanner's knowledge of theoretical physics.
 ghjddhkur56d
Joined: 9/19/2016
Msg: 423
Caligula duck is a Fraud
Posted: 9/26/2016 5:59:26 AM
What's to rebut? Billy is offering an opinion, a generic one at that, available for decades in the coming economic collapse like books. If you read those books and buy into it, you bought gold and waited and waited, while you missed the great bull markets of the last decades.

Right now, debt is not the issue, nor is printing money. It's changing demographics and a dying middle class that are threatening economic prosperity.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 424
who is a Fraud ?????????
Posted: 9/26/2016 7:59:13 AM
Doesn't seem that Billy favors any party or anybody.

If I were on the gravy train, I would favor Hillary.
 6k7g3rh63g5y
Joined: 9/20/2016
Msg: 425
who is a Fraud ?????????
Posted: 9/26/2016 8:00:03 AM
Billy thinks we are doomed regardless of the party. Time will tell o assume.
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