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 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 51
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb627xDlqBs

All kinds of fun at the ER when more than just a robotic hand malfunctions!
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
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Posted: 9/12/2016 2:59:51 PM
How did you manipulate the real lives of transgenders into porn and the mistreatment of women? Also I have read the same thing only directed at women having BOBs.
 6665366
Joined: 9/8/2016
Msg: 53
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Posted: 9/12/2016 3:04:20 PM

The real implication I wonder about it is how this will further effect how men perceive and thus treat women


I wouldn't worry about it too much. There are much more pressing issues to worry about, like whether Rock & Roll is here to stay, and if so, how much it is going to corrupt our youth.
 BlasphemousBombshell
Joined: 11/19/2013
Msg: 54
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Posted: 9/12/2016 3:42:05 PM
Males who adhere to feminine gender roles aren't actually women - and the fact this even needs to be said shows how this society is under a massive sexist delusion. Women are adult humans whom had/have ovaries, they aren't merely a presentation of gender that a patriarchal culture has advocated. The fact is right now American girls are being told if they don't want to accept penis as female and get naked with any guy who claims to "feel" feminine, than she is a bigot, and can find herself the recipient of doxxing, threats, intimidation and violence. This isn't a feminist progressive stance - this is coopting of the female experience for men who have dysphoria or autogynephillia. This is an attack on women's protections, spaces and rights in the name of "political correct" like some Orwell novel: "war is peace, freedom is slavery" ya, and men are women now...

But that's just one of MANY ways feminism has become a complete joke via its hijacking by patriarchal capitalism. We are also currently being told than women signing up as combat units and going to kill other women's children for some rich man's profit is "feminism". Our society is all kinds of messed up... Just like we should make facsimiles of women's bodies to use as f*ck holes so men don't have to be troubled with socializing after the orgasm is over. And if you say this: whoa, you are a sex negative, repressed and sooooo not "progressive", cry the FAKE left of American capitalism (real lefties aren't capitalists to begin with).
 6146Catch
Joined: 7/1/2015
Msg: 55
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Posted: 9/12/2016 8:03:52 PM
I would actually benefit from having a fembot, because I know what I like, and having a custom fembot with the traits I find attractive, would pleasure me forever! In fact, I could type out a whole list of reasons why a fembot would be better than the real thing for me, but I don't want to bore you folks.
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
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Posted: 9/12/2016 9:53:24 PM
What?

So female infants who happen to be born without ovaries, are not women when they grow up? Besides what does being born female or male have to do with people who are transgender? The whole concept seems to have gone over your head. What about male infants who are born without testicles, are they not still male?

Feminists have nothing what so ever to do with people being born gay or straight or transgender, etc. You will find just as many feminist bigots/racists as you will in any group of people. Equal rights for human beings is about equal rights for human beings.
 Coma_White
Joined: 9/15/2013
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Posted: 9/13/2016 3:17:48 AM

The real implication I wonder about it is how this will further effect how men perceive and thus treat women. Porn already has shown horrible effects on the success of dating, causing a ton of issues from erectile dysfunction in very young males to an up tick in eroticization of violence and increasingly younger/thinner female ideals. Its to the point where we are now screaming at girls they are bigots if they don't want to get naked with cross dressing men and we are seeing on more mainstream news sources this ludicrous idea that pedophilia is an "orientation". The pornification of our culture which is centralized on objectifying women to passive receptacles for the male orgasm is going to have serious implications eventually.


There's no evidence for anything you said. It's not the use of porn that has "horrible effects", but the misuse of porn. A guy can be addicted to spanking the monkey without porn. So what? Where is the evidence that we call women bigots if they aren't into cross dressing men? Your whole post is just a stream of nonsense with no facts to back it up. You might as well write something like: "The moon is made of green cheese. I can walk through walls. Hillary Clinton is a reptilian shape shifter and controls an army of molten men from another dimension." If you're trying to convince people of something, there at least has to be some truth in it.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 58
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Posted: 9/13/2016 4:03:49 AM
"""""Males who adhere to feminine gender roles aren't actually women - and the fact this even needs to be said shows how this society is under a massive sexist delusion. Women are adult humans whom had/have ovaries, they aren't merely a presentation of gender that a patriarchal culture has advocated. The fact is right now American girls are being told if they don't want to accept penis as female and get naked with any guy who claims to "feel" feminine, than she is a bigot, and can find herself the recipient of doxxing, threats, intimidation and violence. This isn't a feminist progressive stance - this is coopting of the female experience for men who have dysphoria or autogynephillia. This is an attack on women's protections, spaces and rights in the name of "political correct" like some Orwell novel: "war is peace, freedom is slavery" ya, and men are women now...

But that's just one of MANY ways feminism has become a complete joke via its hijacking by patriarchal capitalism. We are also currently being told than women signing up as combat units and going to kill other women's children for some rich man's profit is "feminism". Our society is all kinds of messed up... Just like we should make facsimiles of women's bodies to use as f*ck holes so men don't have to be troubled with socializing after the orgasm is over. And if you say this: whoa, you are a sex negative, repressed and sooooo not "progressive", cry the FAKE left of American capitalism (real lefties aren't capitalists to begin with)."""""

Whooooop, there it is!

There is a lot to back you up. Butthey won't look at it and question the "source" if you post one. Let them google it.

I did not give birth to you but it would be cool if I had.(Even if there are other issues upon which we disagreed) You sound so much like my young female I know and their peers.. They see this whole thing as ridiculous and they too can see the snowball effect and how so-called liberation has just made women more disposable, easy to take advantage of and in cooperation with their objectification than any man could do alone.
Acts that freak men used to do on one another are now expected by young girls to be performed on or with their boyfriends and they are not happy about it and they are thought of more whore than madonna and treated like such. .

And trans men are all part of porn and the trade and one sees it in the men who pay to be with trans women. There are whole countries that are recognized in being involved in that trade.

Old men who have had full advantage of this "liberation" of course will defend it and attack you.
Old women who have been loose and easy and used forever will NEVER agree with you because you bring the negatives of their lives to fore.

They have also raised a generation of feminine boys so they have to defend and these women more than men want divorces, even when there are children in the marriage, because "they had to find themselves" or they weren't "IN love" with him anymore. Creating an absence of a male role model for the boys and we have what you are left with the feminine men of today.

So of course they defend the " dysphoria or autogynephillia." as normal and OK.


To pretend that misguided feminism has nothing to do with the crowning of the MAN Bruce Jenner as Woman of the Year is ridiculous. You have to at least admit that some woman was deprived of the award by a man that men ( and some women) awarded as being "better" at the "womanness" than a real woman.
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OK, I'm starting to feel afraid
Posted: 9/13/2016 4:47:30 AM
"Yes, Mr. policeman, I do have an alibi. I was with my love bot that night. All night. You can ask her, and she'll tell you herself. We had dinner together and watched a movie and just fell asleep together on the sofa afterwards. We talk all of the time and she can tell you all about my character, and explain to you that I could never have committed this crime in the first place. I'm just not that kind of person, and she can vouch for that herself."
 LexiInMDR
Joined: 8/25/2015
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Posted: 9/13/2016 7:03:42 AM

But seriously gals (back to topic)-- are you really worried that robotic women are going to take away all the “good” men? Really??


Let me think: YES!!!
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 61
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Posted: 9/13/2016 7:26:46 AM
If there's an actual fear there, rather than having fun and speaking tongue in cheek, it doesn't speak well of one's self esteem/self worth when it comes to attracting good men. Additionally, it makes me wonder what one's definition of a "good man" is if he doesn't have the ability to relate well in all ways with living, breathing individuals of the opposite sex.
 9765885768
Joined: 9/5/2016
Msg: 62
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Posted: 9/13/2016 9:00:22 AM
^^^^ all due respect, this thread started out funny but has degenerated into complete nonsense. That there are women who actually believe these dolls and robots might replace them with some guys shows that some women are totally fu^ked up with zero understanding of Human Psychology. And the rambling lady from Turkey . . .wow . . . such gobbledygook.

Men who hate women tend to replace them with dogs. Normal functioning guys though will never give up on decent, warm and sensitive women of course. That will never happen.
 BlasphemousBombshell
Joined: 11/19/2013
Msg: 63
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Posted: 9/13/2016 9:28:39 AM
People born without gametes are not sexed, they cant reproduce, they are neither male nor female.

As to feminism and transgenderism: feminists argued gender was a social constraint placed on women to oppress them. This is why feminists argued they have the intelligence to vote, get an education and hold a job too (because gender constrained women to existing for breeding). This is why they started wearing pants, burning bras, refusing to shave, etc. Because these were gender expectations men placed on women, NOT innate things to the female sex.

But transgenderism preaches the embracing of gender ABOVE sex, which is a HUGE problem because it enforces gender (which has harmed women) AND ignores the crucible of womens oppression is their BODIES not their gender. Men make a mockery of women when they claim they are oppressed because they cant freely wear a skirt, pretending thats WORSE then getting raped and left impregnated by your attacker.

Men are ruining womens right to segregate and set resources for themselves when they sue and insist little girls are bigots for not wanting to get naked with penis, this trains girls to not say no, to have no boundaries, to put the desire of males above their own safety. I could go on and on but i dont want to hijack the thread with this, last time this was discussed the mods locked it up.
 Coma_White
Joined: 9/15/2013
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Posted: 9/13/2016 10:59:43 AM

There is a lot to back you up. Butthey won't look at it and question the "source" if you post one. Let them google it.


Saying: "LOL, Google it!" isn't evidence. It's called being lazy. If she had evidence, she's free to post it. As it stands, there is no evidence for any of her claims. I can claim that I can walk through walls. So what?


Men are ruining womens right to segregate and set resources for themselves when they sue and insist little girls are bigots for not wanting to get naked with penis, this trains girls to not say no, to have no boundaries, to put the desire of males above their own safety. I could go on and on but i dont want to hijack the thread with this, last time this was discussed the mods locked it up.


Who is "they"? Who sued someone for not wanting to get naked? You did nothing to back up the claims you made. You provided zero evidence that women are called bigots and zero evidence that porn has "horrible effects". You're just making things up as you go. What you're saying isn't true unless there's something in reality that reflects it.
 BlasphemousBombshell
Joined: 11/19/2013
Msg: 65
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Posted: 9/13/2016 3:20:24 PM
I shouldn't have to spend the day googling for you because you are too lazy to look it up for yourself. So after I post what I do here, simply to show you are WRONG when you claim there is no evidence, I will NOT do it again, because as an adult I expect you to take your education into your own hands instead of expecting strangers to take you to school.


It's not the use of porn that has "horrible effects", but the misuse of porn.


The neuro research is showing that pornography acts like drugs: hijacking the brain’s reward systems in the same way that cocaine does. And just like many drugs, it decreases brain matter in the areas of motivation and decision-making, impaired impulse control, and desensitization to normal sexual acts. Cambridge university showed in 2015 that pornography use drives novelty-seeking, and that exactly why users need more and more extreme content over time in order achieve the same level of arousal. This shouldn't be a surprise to ANYONE. Pretty much any user of porn knows that Playboy pictures of the 70's no longer cut it today, because we have all been conditioned to need more explicit items. This is EXACTLY why soft core porn is so low selling and the harder forms of porn like Gonzo are banking.

http://endsexualexploitation.org/publichealth/ (This link has a TON of studies, if you are going to read ANY of them, this is the one I would spend the most time on)

Porn has shown to cause erectile dysfunction in men and leads to unrealistic expectations in the bedroom which leave its viewers incapable of having normal sexual relationships.
http://www.everydayhealth.com/news/erection-problems-this-habit-may-why/
http://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/health/are-you-watching-too-much-porn-20130821
http://www.mirror.co.uk/science/porn-damaging-young-mens-sexual-8636507

Studies are showing there is an increase of sexually degrading and violent acts done on women and generally sexist attitudes that accompany the watching of pornography, young girls are also being pressured into doing far greater acts of sexuality than the generation before them as males are being saturated and having their expectations driven by porn exposure:
http://pornharmsresearch.com/
http://www.xyonline.net/content/harms-pornography-exposure-among-children-and-young-people
http://www.feministcurrent.com/2016/03/13/growing-up-pornland-australian-girls/

Pornography showing to be large factor in modern day divorce statistics, increases
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqR8jzqqhWc

Its also showing to be a danger to sex workers themselves, because consumers being exposed to more outrageous scenarios drives more desires for even more dangerous acts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng172g_F8rM


Where is the evidence that we call women bigots if they aren't into cross dressing men?


Please look up any transgender or cross dressing forum that discusses "TERFS" and/or "Cotton Ceiling" and you will find a TON Of commentary from these males threatening violence against women, fantasizing about killing women who reject them, etc. Men hating women for not giving them sexual access isn't that rare, ya know, it happens all the time, entire communities exist online from "redpill", "pua" and "mra" that are based on attempting to exploit women for the sake of sex.

Don't compare me to some David Icke fan who believes the world is ran by shape shifting reptilians. There is a HUGE difference between being a feminist in a world where there are MOUNTAINS of evidence that sexism exists, and believing in secret alien societies have hijacked the white house.

I resent your attempting to paint me as some tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist for reading research that you have failed too. I also resent you wasting my time to paste this crap simply because YOU are too lazy to it up yourself and would sooner try to paint someone else as a raving lunatic instead of take responsibility for your own education like a grown man.
 ThroatLozenge
Joined: 3/2/2016
Msg: 66
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Posted: 9/13/2016 3:27:47 PM
You didn't get paid for your last week in Tinseltown, huh?
 flman2015
Joined: 10/3/2015
Msg: 67
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Posted: 9/13/2016 3:55:20 PM




question:
But seriously gals (back to topic)-- are you really worried that robotic women are going to take away all the “good” men? Really??

LexiInMDR's answer:
Let me think: YES!!!


I doubt women should worry about robotic women replacing them. A robotic woman cannot express the c*cktail of primal lust, passion, desire, wants, needs of a real woman which are some of the things that make sex enjoyable.

There is nothing to discover in a robotic woman and, after reading the manual, the reward is a fake orgasm. Very unconvincing. And that is without even taking into account the large number of subtleties (which shall remain unstated) that turn sex into a symbiotic experience of mutual pleasure.

A robotic woman can barely beat an apple pie (and that's only if she is at the right temperature... otherwise, at least the apple pie tastes better than she does) ;-)

Turn that around... could a male robot express primal lust, passion, desire, etc that a man hungry for his woman can ?... wires, chips and silicon cannot replace genes.

Either case, nothing beats the real thing.
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
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Posted: 9/13/2016 4:29:37 PM
I don't know about the others, but I've read a lot of research, taken a lot of psychology/sociology courses (double majors) and know that just because there's a been a study of something, doesn't mean the results are true. Consider the source, who paid, what their agenda is, and take a good hard look at who agrees with it.
 BlasphemousBombshell
Joined: 11/19/2013
Msg: 69
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Posted: 9/13/2016 5:33:50 PM
Yep - scientists can be bought by corporations with a profit agenda. Thats why we must look at the empirical evidence, meta analysis and consensus.

Which is: The brain is not gendered or sexed.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28582-scans-prove-theres-no-such-thing-as-a-male-or-female-brain/
https://sexnotgender.com/brain-sex-does-not-exist/
http://www.jpost.com/Business-and-Innovation/Health-and-Science/TAU-neuroscientists-Brains-are-not-gendered-435882
http://thehumanist.com/commentary/human-brains-have-no-gender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jnpyyY8l_Y

Why did we ever think it was? Because in colonial times it was a popular argument of the sexist racist plantation owners to claim people of color and women had lesser brains that created their behavior and justified their treatment. It was until the 1920's when we could begin looking into the brain that we began proving this idea is false. And just like many people today don't accept evolution despite the MOUNTAIN of evidence, because of the social conditioning of religion, many still don't believe the brain isn't gendered, because they are not aware of the mountain of evidence, and they have been conditioned by a sexist society to think there must be vast differences between males and females neurologically.
 33hellogoodbye
Joined: 8/27/2016
Msg: 70
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Posted: 9/13/2016 6:41:03 PM
Wow, there are some angry vaginas out there. Really angry. I hope you switched teams because you don't seem to like men much.
No questioning why a few are divorced. Counselling? Maybe get rid of some anger issues. Blasphous, the majority of your posts are very angry and anti men.

Coma White is right about porn. Guys have been whacking off and fantasizing with and without porn for eons. So have women. And why worry about the transgendered, you aren't one, you don't want one and there aren't all that many. It is no skin off my butt if the guy down the hall is gay or a gay/guy or a girly man or transgendered..as long as he/she is a good person. Non issue.
 Whatsamattababy
Joined: 5/3/2016
Msg: 71
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Posted: 9/13/2016 7:04:04 PM
^ I'm sure you can disarm her with your charm :)
 33hellogoodbye
Joined: 8/27/2016
Msg: 72
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Posted: 9/13/2016 8:17:49 PM
^. You're correct, I might have been wrong there. I often wonder who hurt someone so badly that they seem so angry at everyone.

I don't think this all started out as dump on men and men and porn and a transgender topic.
 Coma_White
Joined: 9/15/2013
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Posted: 9/13/2016 8:58:44 PM

I shouldn't have to spend the day googling for you because you are too lazy to look it up for yourself. So after I post what I do here, simply to show you are WRONG when you claim there is no evidence, I will NOT do it again, because as an adult I expect you to take your education into your own hands instead of expecting strangers to take you to school.

This is nonsense. You made the claims, you provide the evidence. I'm not your gopher.


The neuro research is showing that pornography acts like drugs: hijacking the brain’s reward systems in the same way that cocaine does. And just like many drugs, it decreases brain matter in the areas of motivation and decision-making, impaired impulse control, and desensitization to normal sexual acts. Cambridge university showed in 2015 that pornography use drives novelty-seeking, and that exactly why users need more and more extreme content over time in order achieve the same level of arousal. This shouldn't be a surprise to ANYONE. Pretty much any user of porn knows that Playboy pictures of the 70's no longer cut it today, because we have all been conditioned to need more explicit items. This is EXACTLY why soft core porn is so low selling and the harder forms of porn like Gonzo are banking.


That completely reeks of BS. What cuts it for someone is what they like. A person that uses porn or a vibrator isn't like a serial killer. They don't need it to be more extreme every time. People watch or think about what they like. People that like softcore aren't going to magically start liking hardcore because you think that's what they will do. People are going to be pleasuring themselves with or with out porn. A man that's been touching himself all day is going to have problems having intercourse with his girlfriend at night. It makes no difference if porn was involved or not. It's probably a good thing for him to watch porn in moderation because he can get ideas from it and figure out what he likes. It's the same nonsensical argument that claims video games make people violent.


Please look up any transgender or cross dressing forum that discusses "TERFS" and/or "Cotton Ceiling" and you will find a TON Of commentary from these males threatening violence against women, fantasizing about killing women who reject them, etc. Men hating women for not giving them sexual access isn't that rare, ya know, it happens all the time, entire communities exist online from "redpill", "pua" and "mra" that are based on attempting to exploit women for the sake of sex.


A few nutty people on a message board isn't evidence that there's widespread abuse toward women. The internet is full of stupid people saying stupid things, but they don't represent everybody. The PUA communist doesn't exploit women, it helps men develop social skills. All of these silly things you're stating have already been debunked.



Don't compare me to some David Icke fan who believes the world is ran by shape shifting reptilians. There is a HUGE difference between being a feminist in a world where there are MOUNTAINS of evidence that sexism exists, and believing in secret alien societies have hijacked the white house.


That's true, a feminist is worse than someone that believes in secret alien societies. Feminism is based on lies and misconceptions. Modern feminism is an angry man-hating ideology. The gender pay gay is a myth. This is what happens when people believe in narrative over fact. There is no rape culture in the West. Women are not oppressed in the West. Modern feminists make up terms like "toxic masculinity" and completely ignore the fact that women are actually oppressed in many countries around the world. Women naturally have more social value than men but they never address that inequality. So much for "mountains of evidence".



I resent your attempting to paint me as some tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist for reading research that you have failed too. I also resent you wasting my time to paste this crap simply because YOU are too lazy to it up yourself and would sooner try to paint someone else as a raving lunatic instead of take responsibility for your own education like a grown man.


You have the burden of proof if you're making the claims. The person you're speaking to has no obligation to provide supporting evidence for your claims. You can drone on about education all you want, but educated people follow basic logic and you're not doing that. You're asking people to do your job.
 BlasphemousBombshell
Joined: 11/19/2013
Msg: 74
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Posted: 9/13/2016 9:44:14 PM

Wow, there are some angry vaginas out there. Really angry. I hope you switched teams because you don't seem to like men much.
quoting data on what pornography use is shown to do to people doesnt mean i hate men, thats ludicrous. As to what my issue is with the trans movement? It buttresses gender, endangers womens rights and has aided in the harming of many women. Look up how many women have been perved on or attacked by men claiming to be women...
 BlasphemousBombshell
Joined: 11/19/2013
Msg: 75
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Posted: 9/13/2016 10:03:41 PM

You made the claims, you provide the evidence. I'm not your gopher.


We arent in a court of law no classroom where empirical evidence is of limited access. You have the SAME ability i do to look up evidence.

Ive been on the net a long time, long enough to know what the "prove" it claim is really about. I had one of the first atheist sites on the net way back in 1994. Christians were constantly screaming to "prove" what i claimed about the bible. They never opened it and looked just like everyone else did because it was REALLY about just ladeling work on someone as a deflection and annoyance method. And even when the proof WAS posted, they did exactly what you did: ignore the science and hop on something else because it didnt jive with their preconveived idea.

I used to be in their shoes once, i was a Christian too, but unlike them, when i heard there was issues with the jesus story i looked the crap up and resolved it for myself, i didnt lazily rely on other people to hold my hand and do my homework for me. Its called intellectual integrity. That self reliance worked out to my benefit too, i became a scholar of religion as a result.

You are a gopher for your own enlightement if you actually give a crap about being right rather than feeling right.

I posted a ton of links of research, and all you have to hop on with all i posted is a small reference to "internet forums" when i mentioned a couple of communities who are based on the sexual entitlement complexes of men. That shows you didnt look at anything i posted, you made me do all that for nothing, so dont bother preaching again how i have a duty to back up a claim when you have demonstrated you dont WANT to look at evidence. You will ignore MYRIADS of links and grasp at straws (which i could also post links to as well, but why would i? You wont read them!)

Lets get real honest here: this is REALLY about people hating to hear criticism of porn because most folks use it and hate to ponder their moral culpability in consuming what is essentially filmed prostitution. I had issues with that myself when i first learned these things, but what i did NOT do was sit there ignorantly ranting to protect my feelings and scream at people who offered up research because it gave me a guilt trip.

If anything, i read more. I suggest thats whats you do before attempting to proselytize to me anymore about what futile efforts i supposedly owe you.
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