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 Coma_White
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I quoted over a dozen studies ranging from large collections of empirical data (with well over hundreds of links in the annotations) to even video from the world renowned expert in the field of pornography's effect on sexual behavior. You don't even know this, because you didn't look.


So? There are just as many studies saying it's harmless. It's no different than violent video games, movies with sexuality and violence, or alcohol. It can be used or abused. It's almost like you think the person can't be blamed and we have to give things like porn 100% of the blame for any sexual problems they may have. At what point do we apply common sense or do we completely ignore it?

"We found little evidence of the association between pornography use and male sexual health disturbances. Contrary to raising public concerns, pornography does not seem to be a significant risk factor for younger men's desire, erectile, or orgasmic difficulties. "
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jsm.12853/full



I'm not going to to repeat myself like a broken record to comply with a narcissist's gas lighting game of turn about. Anyone with freaking eyes can see you demanded evidence, I gave you a TON, and all you can do is post ONE link in return and then pretend your SINGLE link competes with what amounts to hundreds of studies in a compendium. What is there to say to nonsense like that? You are being obtuse on PURPOSE, no rational person would say ONE data study outweighs hundreds of others.


The bottom line is still the same. Porn is not harmful to anyone. How is it harmful to a man that watches is one day, gets an idea from it and uses that idea with his girlfriend the next day? How is it harmful to a couple that watches it together before having sex? It's situational like everything else in life. Playing a numbers game doesn't mean something is true. The fact that there are many contradicting studies means that there is no solid conclusion.

Very few people are addicted to pornography according to studies:
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224499.2016.1191597



Because you aren't rational, because you are acting like a dishonest ego-maniacal blowhard, because you are talking about a topic you CLEARLY don't know (the fact you think all feminists and SJWs are the same shows you never opened a SINGLE book on feminist theory in your life. Because the FIRST thing you learn is that feminism has MULTIPLE schools and multiple waves. SJWS are actually loathed by the majority of feminists). So why waste my time talking with someone who is so little educated on that which he rants? As far as I'm concerned you bring as much value to this conversation as a racist does on civil rights - NONE.


Well, there you have it. No one is allowed to discuss a subject unless you say it's okay. If you were as educated as you say you are, you would read the forum rules before participating in this forum, and you would be able to counter my points with common sense instead of going off on a tangent about how everyone but you isn't "educated". All you do is attack a person's character instead of what they say. That's a typical characteristic an "educated" person? What a joke.
 justdeb111a
Joined: 9/4/2016
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OK, I'm starting to feel afraid
Posted: 9/15/2016 11:14:49 PM

Sorry ladies, but I just have to play devil's advocate here.

I don't know any married stay at home fathers or 50 year old married men that have never worked a day in their adult lives.

Just sayin'....


Hey there and 'allo, Cloons :)

Whether or not there are 50 year old stay at home Dad's and whether or not they are happy with their lot, is a moot point to me--50 year olds are not of my generation.

Wait a min--aren't you getting close to 50 now, Cloons--is this a hint? :P
 gingerosity
Joined: 12/10/2011
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Posted: 9/16/2016 12:45:01 AM

Unless and until women are not the ONLY ones who can become pregnant, real women will be safe.

Female mice are already feeling unsafe. http://www.bbc.com/news/health-37337215
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 129
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Posted: 9/16/2016 2:25:36 AM
Answer to the question in 128


white men


The same people writing here as if women "have it all."

It is part of the psychological manipulation game.

Sorry, repeat it all you want.

The sources that BlasphemousBombshell cited have not yet been contradicted or even validly challenged in any way.

It would be interesting to read a valid challenge. . . .alas



 ThroatLozenge
Joined: 3/2/2016
Msg: 130
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Posted: 9/16/2016 6:58:54 AM
Stay single then.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 131
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Posted: 9/16/2016 7:32:55 AM

Sorry ladies, but I just have to play devil's advocate here.
I don't know any married stay at home fathers or 50 year old married men that have never worked a day in their adult lives.
Just sayin'....


...and I don't know any married stay at home mothers or 50 year old married women who have never worked a day in their adult lives....what's your point exactly? That some men make enough money and they agree their wives should stay home and look after kids or have a socialite wife whose "job" it is to go to social functions and charity affairs? You must live in a different world than I do if such is the case.
 Maleman999
Joined: 2/14/2010
Msg: 132
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Posted: 9/16/2016 7:47:11 AM
I'm waiting for the new TV series to come out...The Stepford Husbands.
 BlasphemousBombshell
Joined: 11/19/2013
Msg: 133
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Posted: 9/16/2016 10:33:42 AM

as if women "have it all."


You nailed it. The primary charge is the women are "priviledged" because they are more sexually selective than men (which makes men feel like women have power) and the other popular charge is women are "priviledged" if they dedicate a portion of their working years to mothering.

The problem with these assumptions is they arent examined at all. Many men dont stop to think women HAVE to be sexually selective because:

- women get pregnant which compromises our health, our appearance, leaves us with a dependent that compromises our economic security and ALL our time which effects our career, our education and social life.

- women suffer a social stigma for having multiple partners that men do NOT suffer.

- because women are the receptive partner we are more apt to contract and std from the sex act

- sex is often just NOT as rewarding for women because our anatomy necessitates a great deal of foreplay, the vast majority of women can not get off from just penetration and most men treat that as the pinnacle of sex.

Men like to think women just like "***holes" and turn down the "nice guys" to be cruel. They dont comprehend at ALL how their culture which preaches sexual conquest makes a "stud" means the vast majority of women are preyed upon and lied to by many a male and duped out of sex, left holding the bag of consequences, then we are "dumb sluts" for falling for it, "lazy welfare moms" and "****es" for being selective after the valuable learning experience...

Men dont stop to think what its like from the female perspective to be stuck in a smaller body, a receptive impregnable body, manuevering then world of larger people who constantly use intimidation and deception to get what they want.

I welcome ANY straight man who thinks being sought after is some kind of priviledge, to go to a gay club full of big strapping men who are all bigger than and interested in you, to be manhandled, yelled at if you resist, followed, cat called, trapped in a hall way and pressured to give your contact info as he eyes you up like meat, etc. They would learn REAL quickly how its not a "priviledge", its a curse to constantly have to fear your safety and worry you are being lied to. And its not just clubs, the crap happens ALL the time, everywhere, from your job to the gas station and it starts YOUNG. Because we live in a culture of glorifying youth most girls begin getting treated like this between 8-12.

To men mothering seems like a "vacation from work". Which is ridiculous. Ive held two jobs simultaneously while going to school and mothering was FAR more exhausting. Women gestate, men dont. They have NO clue what that does to the body. Women deliver, men don't. Women have children hanging off their breast for YEARS after.

Any man who thinks mothering is easy should carry a 35 pound sack of potatoes tied to his body for nearly a year, get fisted in his peehole for a day, the woken every two hours to be tied up to a milking machine for a few years. THEN they come tell us how just the PHYSICAL part isnt actually work (cause we haven't even gotten into the watching non stop, the bathing, all the meal making, wiping ass a dozen times a day, cleaning snot and puke daily, running to the hospital for every bump, cough, examination and monthly vaccinations, the laundry, the errands, the cleaning, etc)

So when women hear this utter mockery of something so HUGE as CREATING & RAISING A HUMAN, it comes off deliberately ignorant out of spite. I challenge any of these men to call their mothers and tell them how raising them was not a sacrifice and just a really long break from "real work". I bet they NEVER would say something that gortesque to their mothers. Its only okay to disrespect every other woman on the planet, mom redeemed herself to human status in their eyes because she wiped their butts.
 653464
Joined: 9/8/2016
Msg: 134
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Posted: 9/16/2016 10:46:06 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_and_Master_law

Deb, see above. That master law abolshed in 1979 in louisiana.
As for women being excluded from competing in that desidn contest..would never stand under legal scrutiny today, but personally I see nothing wrong with only male or only female competitions. Sometimes gus just need to get away from women and compete with other guys.

That being said, women do not typically have engineering type of brains. Yes of course there.are many exceptions. Still, genrrally...men are better at quantitative analysis...women better on the verbal scale. Hundreds of studies and the fact far more guys gravitate to math, engineering, coding, etc. prove this fact.
 653464
Joined: 9/8/2016
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Posted: 9/16/2016 10:52:27 AM
So what BB, you play the cards you were born with. By the way, best I can recall, it is men, not women who suffer horribly on the battlefields. Who are more likely to suffer violence on local streets. You poor thing being born a woman. So terrible. So unfair. It could be worse, you could be born a very ugly woman. Then most guys wouldn't bother you.
 653464
Joined: 9/8/2016
Msg: 136
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Posted: 9/16/2016 11:02:43 AM
By the way Deb, Louisiana is a community property state. Whatever property you acquire during the marriage is half your husbands, perhaps the reason for requiring his name. We're he buying, they would have required yours I am guessing.
 BlasphemousBombshell
Joined: 11/19/2013
Msg: 137
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Posted: 9/16/2016 1:45:48 PM

it is men, not women who suffer horribly on the battlefields.


Half of the victims of wars are women. And these are wars started primarily by men. Women make up 51% of the global population and yet, in the most PROGRESSIVE of countries they make up at most 17% of the government representation. In most of human civilization of history, it was old rich men who sent young the young sons of mothers to fight and die for the profits of the wealthy. Women helped men fight against the draft in the 70's because so many women were disgusted at the heavy death counts of their sons in Vietnam.

Men AND women should stop fighting with each other over crap like pretending women have privilege and start putting the blame where it BELONGS: On the rich **stards oppressing us all by denying the working class representation, starting wars they use working class kids as cannon fodder for, and repressing wages to the point more than HALF of the kids in America (and around the globe) are in food insecurity.

As my brother puts it: "Nature gave my wife the ability to have kids, all men are a result of a woman's ability to do this. Nature gave men the ability to defend women and children so this cycle can keep going. Monkeys understand its the duty of all the adults to protect the troupe, gather food for it, and expand it. It's my duty as a man to make this world a better place for the kids I leave behind. Any guy who spends his day b*tching about women because he wants more vagina isn't a man, he's dumber than a monkey, and the same for women who spend their day self obsessed with what she can take, instead of what she can give."

That surmises it for me. If men want to want end war, they SHOULD, and I am willing to do anything I can to help them. But I will NOT hear from men that women are privileged because they have been less apt to be drafted into the wars men create. Besides, we all know women aren't drafted because women are NOT good soldiers. Pretty hard to be command a tank unit when you are 9 months pregnant of have an infant on your tit - so men really look ridiculous when they say that crap to women.


Men are more likely to suffer violence on local streets.
Men are also more likely to have been the perpetrator of that violence. That's yet another issue I support men in tackling, instead of pretending the problem your sex is primarily responsible for is somehow the fault of women's "privilege".


You poor thing being born a woman. So terrible. So unfair. It could be worse, you could be born a very ugly woman. Then most guys wouldn't bother you.


I'm not sad being born a woman, I do however find it grotesque that the men who have ran this planet into the cess pool that it is or the other half of men who did nothing to stop that, have the AUDACITY to point at women and mock THEM for male's FAILURE to fix the problem.

You want to condescend me? I can treat you the same way: how pathetic of a male specimen are you that you have so much animosity towards women for not using their weaker bodies to go fight your battles for you? Are you a closeted homosexual? Or just so damn beta that the only way you can compensate is by jumping on those more disenfranchised than you? And you expect women to reward this egomaniacal cowardice with sexual access? They are privileged b*tches for not wanting to reproduce your toxic genes? The source of your sexism is your own self loathing...
 ThroatLozenge
Joined: 3/2/2016
Msg: 138
I am woman, hear me roar!!
Posted: 9/16/2016 2:48:42 PM

I AM WOMAN!

HEAR ME ROAR!!
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 139
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Posted: 9/16/2016 2:56:22 PM
chances are, BB was talking rapes and war crimes on civilians, but here's something to chew on:

http://nation.time.com/2013/01/25/women-in-combat-vive-a-difference/

Porn is likely like salt, or water. Your body can use some, but too much causes troubles and if the body can adopt to it (like diabetics who's sugar has been high for too long, they don't pass out unconscious. My mother was at 550 and drove herself to the doctor, weighing a bit over 100lbs).

For every woman working for a socially conscious or politically correct company that treats her right, there's probably five secretaries ducking grabass, and finding dicktures sent to their singles' profile. Like Virginia Slims commericals used to proclaim, "you've come a long way, baby!"
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 140
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Posted: 9/16/2016 3:52:35 PM

At what point do we apply common sense



Any fool who would make such a ludicrous claim as... "If women got paid less than men, companies would only hire women to save money."... as though it constituted "common sense"... clearly has none of "it" (that would be "common sense") himself...

And only an idiot would proceed from that position to declare... "At what point do we apply common sense"... in response to others...

That's a typical characteristic an "educated" person? What a joke.



As if YOUR nonsense... see example above... is any indication of an "educated person"...

The only "joke" here is you... and you are the one making it so...




"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life."

Frank Zappa
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 141
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Posted: 9/16/2016 5:34:33 PM

Its convenient they use terms like "gender-neutral physical standards" - as if we have gender-neutral soldiers. Of course, it provides wiggle room for the standards - specifically downwards. Where in the world of common sense and sanity does real battle allow points for "exerting the same amount of effort." Are our soldiers being prepared to fight wars or just some friendly game of paintball? Sheesh.

Well, I can give you an example of this sort of standard in action from my days in the military...

One of the standards of the day was that you had to be able to carry... in a "fireman's carry"... another to safety... I don't recall the exact distance used but it wasn't very far...

Here is how it was a "neutral standard" (in the sense of strength and effort)... You were not expected to carry someone much larger than you (e.g. a 5'10", 180 lb person carrying a 6'6", 250 lb person)... you were only expected to be able to carry someone up to approximately your own size and weight... The fact that meant the smaller guy might never be able to carry the bigger guy to safety without help, and consequently have to leave him or wait for help, was of absolutely no consequence to the standard or it's purpose...

It was a simple recognition of reality, not a "lowering of standards" or a weakening of the military... And for pretty much the exact same reason... the squad machine gun (the biggest, heaviest weapon) was rarely assigned to the smallest man in the squad...
 Doremi_Fasolatido
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Posted: 9/16/2016 6:33:52 PM
I'm takin' this thing way on back to the OP.... She said, some guy built himself a lifelike female robot.... The OP then expressed both fear, and anger over the possible scenario of men preferring robots over real flesh and blood women.

Well, I've never met a plastic love doll I'd rather be with more than a real woman. I mean, really... Especially if you're the type who enjoys not just mind bending sex but also the free exchange of ideas and sharing of emotion that to me should preceed the mind bending sex. And, which would also help the sex to get to the point of mind bendedness.

I guess that, as for me at least I am voting for real women to have sex with and also to possibly incorporate other parts of life with. Hell, I think women are freakin' awesome and better than robots. But, you never can tell what future technology could have in store. So, I'd say you ladies have the market cornered for now.
 Coma_White
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Posted: 9/16/2016 8:12:44 PM

Its convenient they use terms like "gender-neutral physical standards" - as if we have gender-neutral soldiers. Of course, it provides wiggle room for the standards - specifically downwards. Where in the world of common sense and sanity does real battle allow points for "exerting the same amount of effort." Are our soldiers being prepared to fight wars or just some friendly game of paintball? Sheesh.


It's political correctness that makes it taboo to notice that men and women have physical differences. In sports, males will always have an advantage over females. Women's speed records in any event from swimming to foot racing are consistently 10% short of men's records. It makes it harder to market sports like women's hockey and soccer for that reason. Women do excel in martial arts that require hip flexibility like traditional Karate, Taekwondo and Taekkyeon. I notice that women usually have better internal and external hip rotator range, not just the ability to do the splits in less time than men. Of course, men excel in anabolic training. Women have a natural advantage as singers though. Their natural range allows them to sing in a tessitura that doesn't compete with the rhythm section of a band. Male singers will always be in demand, but female singers are becoming more popular even in styles like heavy metal now for this reason. They might not have gender-neutral soldiers, but one could argue that Farinelli was a gender neutral vocalist.
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 144
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Posted: 9/17/2016 6:42:18 AM
^^ Nice try.
But unless all the women in that situation had both the wallets, and all the money, and they were 7' tall, and prone to violence, and rape,
- instead of demure giggles, I don't think it's really comparable.

If you'd been a dirt-poor, and 5' tall man, and hoping that one of the violent, 7' tall women would pick you, to get you away from a life of abject poverty, then you'd have probably been 'shaking your booty' too.
I think that's the point she was making:
That men have imposed the historical (and too often, the still current) gender 'status-quo', because they're bigger, and stronger.
JMO
 halforhalfnot
Joined: 9/13/2016
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Posted: 9/17/2016 10:57:52 AM
I was deleted and therefore locked out of this thread. And it was clearly a rousing discussion.

But back to sex bots. ...

You just know that this will be seen as a prime advertising medium. What happens when she starts telling you about the benefits of the new brokered investment fund during the throes of passion? Or telling you she'd rather ride with you if you bought a new BMW? Remind you to buy lottery tickets and salsa?

I suspect these things will make us pine for the nagging of a real woman.
 ThroatLozenge
Joined: 3/2/2016
Msg: 146
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Posted: 9/17/2016 11:40:56 AM
Do bots qualify as beneficiaries?

Are they motivated by wealth?

I just want a simple one that nurtures me and comes with an off switch...
 7685584
Joined: 9/14/2016
Msg: 147
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Posted: 9/17/2016 12:01:12 PM
This is a "rousing" thread? Really? It is a nonsensical thread. Normal, functional human beings don't even think about "sex bots". Robotic women? Sex dolls? Women preferring their toys over flesh and blood men? Lol. Right. This was all worth a serious discussion.

Halftime, you have any evidence I try to cheat on my wife...assuming I am married? Or does lying come to you as easy as it comes to trump? That's why you were deleted. Sometimes you are a putz talking out of your azz, and other people know it.
 kj521
Joined: 9/20/2015
Msg: 148
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Posted: 9/17/2016 12:03:34 PM
I'm ordering the "Honey Do" model.....and I don't mean "do" me.

Wish they would hurry up. My list is already a mile long. :/
 7685584
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Posted: 9/17/2016 12:14:14 PM
And I had zero to do with hiker being blocked here. I wanted her back to see if she could defend her bullshat.
 justdeb111a
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Posted: 9/17/2016 2:13:04 PM

As for women being excluded from competing in that desidn contest..would never stand under legal scrutiny today, but personally I see nothing wrong with only male or only female competitions. Sometimes gus just need to get away from women and compete with other guys.


It's your opinion of course, but why would any guy need to "get away from women and compete with other guys"? Most men do not habitually compete with women. Interesting statement.

...and you are absolutely correct, such shenanigans as that contest would not be tolerated today--and the reason? Because encouraging one sex over the other simply limits opportunities for learning for those left out, (as in man-brain, woman-brain so called differences in abilities in mathematics---girls have not been encouraged in mathematics and many sciences for a very long time).

BTW, "hundreds of studies" is an exaggeration. I just looked through my university's data base and went back as far as the 1980s when someone finally figured that assuming there were some strange differences in children's brains was just not correct. Dozens of much more recent studies have found that there are no differences in the brains of boys vs girls during the developmental stage that the disposition towards mathematics would be formed/learned. There are now several organizations dedicated to equal involvement of girls and boys in math and related sciences for gradeschool children.


That master law abolshed in 1979 in louisiana.


Yup, I know all about community property--I live in California now and did at that time. I did not require my husband's signature to buy property here as I did not need his income to qualify for the purchases. The only explanation may be that five years later, after the law changed, lenders in Louisiana were still operating on their own rules and the agent was quoting the lenders he used. Banks have a tendency to do whatever they wish. Either way, I passed on buying the investment house there.

..and, honestly, I agree with whomever posted that this was a boring thread as it was originally posted. Some of the side threads have been interesting but seriously, what adult woman would be "afraid" of men creating robotic women? (Better that type of man stays away from the real thing and hence, out of the gene pool).
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