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 BeyondtheMatrix
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Deetristate is one of the smartest posters on this site.

Her wisdom is profound and insightful.

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 Whisky_River
Joined: 12/2/2015
Msg: 52
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Posted: 10/13/2016 3:26:41 PM
"You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes." The term redpill refers to a human that is aware of the true nature of the Matrix.

Key Twilight Zone music....
 halforhalfnot
Joined: 9/13/2016
Msg: 53
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Posted: 10/13/2016 3:31:36 PM
Ever hear the Manhattan Transfer version of that song? I used to own the LP. .....now I feel the need to do a search for it.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 54
Will Trump be the biggest loser? What's next?
Posted: 10/20/2016 10:11:30 AM
Do Canadians realize that Clinton's dream of an open border includes yours?

Trump loses and the American people are the big losers.
Open borders
Courts that issue decision not based on the law but leftist sjw directives.
International chaos and more destruction around the world and retaliation on Americans.
Degenerate behaviors given civil rights status.
Accepting paid foreign influence on American federal policy as normal.
More distrust (as in"is she lying?") of any government statements and action.
Higher taxes on everyone (eating up a lot of the proposed minimum wage hike)
 _babblefish
Joined: 9/23/2011
Msg: 55
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Posted: 10/20/2016 11:39:28 AM

Do Canadians realize that Clinton's dream of an open border includes yours?


do you take everything so literally dee?

actual quote below:


“My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere.”
 BeckyHT
Joined: 1/1/2013
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Will Trump be the biggest loser? What's next?
Posted: 10/20/2016 1:29:31 PM


"her whole life, Hillary hasn't run around with a foul mouth."
For reading you may find interesting, put in a search engine
Hillary Clinton foul mouth.
It doesn't matter but thought that you may want to know.


All of these, seem to be in someone's book or writings.

None of them are on public videos or film.

But Trump spouts obscenities on tape and video all the time.

CAN YOU NOT SEE THE DIFFERENCE?

Catch me behind doors or in private, I've been known to slip a few words.
 BBEisBack
Joined: 9/16/2015
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Posted: 10/20/2016 5:00:13 PM

All of these, seem to be in someone's book or writings.

None of them are on public videos or film. .


You see people post all the time......
It's how someone treats the little people, the Pee-Ons.....
How someone treats a Waiter or Waitress.....

There's a reason that some of the Crew for the helicopter, Marine One....
Called it Broomstick One, when Hilary was on it.....

Hilary has a History of treating the Pee-Ons, badly, in Private.....
 halforhalfnot
Joined: 9/13/2016
Msg: 58
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Posted: 10/20/2016 5:12:09 PM
That's odd. You know, seeing as she has engendered such fierce loyalty among those who have worked under her over the years.

And I've never heard of her grabbing a subordinate's package. Of course, 25 years ago she did fire two incompetent travel agents. Maybe we should have more Congressional investigations about that.
 flman2015
Joined: 10/3/2015
Msg: 59
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Posted: 10/20/2016 6:25:33 PM




Trump loses and the American people are the big losers.


Gotta hand it to pvssy-grabber... he made losing "bigly" great.



Degenerate behaviors given civil rights status.


That doesn't sound good... mocking the disabled should definitely not be a civil right... nor should grabbing women pvssies without their consent among others that come to mind.



Higher taxes on everyone...


Sounds like a deplorable finally realized that pvssy-grabber's tax plan increases taxes on the middle class. Well done.





But Trump spouts obscenities on tape and video all the time.

CAN YOU NOT SEE THE DIFFERENCE?


She definittely does but, it doesn't serve her purpose to be honest about it. Honesty only applies when it serves their purposes, otherwise, it is a frivolous hindrance.

pvssy-grabber's tax plan is an excellent example. For a lot of the middle class, no longer being able to itemize will result in a net larger tax liability. The deplorables are truly intellectually deficient... just because they hear tax rate cut they instantly believe they'll pay less in taxes.... he is offering them chocolate at 10% off but, the brown stuff they'll get for their money isn't what most people consider chocolate. Never has Ron White been proven right so often.




You know, seeing as she has engendered such fierce loyalty among those who have worked under her over the years.


That's irrelevant... the only things that matter are the false accusations the intellectually deficient deplorables feast their hate on.
 Maleman999
Joined: 2/14/2010
Msg: 60
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Posted: 10/21/2016 7:11:17 AM
Speaking of taxes, it's funny how Trump blamed Hillary when Trump admitted to not paying income tax at the 2nd debate. He argued that Clinton allowed it to happen because if she had been an effective senator, she would have been able to create a fairer tax code. Yet, I don't see him offering to pay income tax in the future, or saying he will change the tax system to close loop holes so that the rich will pay their fair share. If Trump burps or farts, is that Hillary's fault too?
 Whisky_River
Joined: 12/2/2015
Msg: 61
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Posted: 10/21/2016 8:06:20 AM
Point being....as well, other wealthy people can take advantage of this loop hole but not all do...to the extent that Trump did.
I have heard him talk about Warren Buffet...who by the way, is way wealthier than Trump.
Was quick to prove he paid his share of taxes.
Like a said...he is a shyster, always has been and it won't stop.....if he became elected president.
The people that think he would/could be trusted are delusional.

ETB....True GTO...As I said before, because he promises or wants something.....he has no idea, it's not just HIS choice....on whether "all" changes are implemented......fool.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 62
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Posted: 10/21/2016 8:15:37 AM
Its funny to blame one senator for what the 200+ others fail to accomplish. Of course, if you think like a dictator, then you think one person can change everything. Still, i think the point is...some of us believe the rich man can fix the problems of the "pee-ons". Its like when we hear of someone dying in a local car accident, we ask if they were good looking. Why? Do attractive people do more with their lives than we do? is it more tragic when they lose their lives, b/c they can sire better looking children and be happier with their attractive partner than the rest of us? If there's a town hall meeting, why do we hush and listen intently to what the wealthiest person in town says? is he or she more educated than we are? more worldly in view?

Why do we naturally assume the wealthy and the beautiful are different from us? Why do we find their opinion "more valid", before we've even heard it? Why is the businessman smarter in our eyes than the farmer? Why would we trust the person benefiting from tax cuts to solve them for us?

"Do Canadians realize that Clinton's dream of an open border includes yours? "

>>>do robots dream of electronic sheep voting?
 halforhalfnot
Joined: 9/13/2016
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Posted: 10/21/2016 1:07:03 PM
Do Canadians realize.......?

Here's the thing about Canadians. Only a tiny fraction of us get our information from extremist Web sites. So Canadians that know the comment, know the entire sentence. We're just peculiar that way.
 dragonbytes
Joined: 9/15/2015
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Posted: 10/21/2016 1:20:49 PM

Point being....as well, other wealthy people can take advantage of this loop hole but not all do...to the extent that Trump did.
I have heard him talk about Warren Buffet...who by the way, is way wealthier than Trump.


It may make for a good headline and talking point, much like the POF forums attacking posters for being too blunt and not PC enough, but taking advantage of ways to reduce one's taxes is the sane thing to do. You can always give the money away if you want to contribute to society, no reason to let the Government just take it because someone doesn't want to take deductions.

The thing about Trump Vs Buffet and the various tax deductions, you can take these sorts of deductions until your income uses them up. If you don't make a enough money (income), the deduction can last a very long time. I would assume Trump doesn't actually have a large income.

Buffet likely makes too much money for those sorts of deductions to last very long. And Buffet is mainly investments in financial markets while Trump is mainly real estate.

I am sure Buffet has loads of unrealized capital gains from stocks he has held for a very long time.
 BBEisBack
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Posted: 10/21/2016 3:52:40 PM

It may make for a good headline and talking point, much like the POF forums attacking posters for being too blunt and not PC enough, but taking advantage of ways to reduce one's taxes is the sane thing to do. You can always give the money away if you want to contribute to society, no reason to let the Government just take it because someone doesn't want to take deductions.


Sometimes it's not a simple choice.... I owned a Small Trucking Company for 18 years....
My Wife was the Secretary/Treasurer, She did this after working her day job, about an hour a week.
We had a CPA/Tax Accountant, not because my Wife couldn't do it. Because that was His specialty...
He always said my Wife's Books were the best of any of His Clients and they made His job, easy..

When it came to Deductions, the question was is it worth possibly triggering an Audit?
If we were Audited, it would cost about $3k in lost wages and expenses.
I would have to pay my CPA to be there, too...

So, sometimes I didn't take every Deduction I could have, the Risk wasn't worth the Reward on some of them....
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 66
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Posted: 10/21/2016 4:48:26 PM
Some people see the 1040 form as a battlefield. They aren't adverse to paying taxes b/c they are war resisters or want to donate their tax savings to their own social projects/charities/whatever, but its more of a "that's my money, I ain't giving you a penny more!" deal. Sometimes they tend to be aggressive in other places, too. Years ago I needed to replace a hose on my Mustang, the regular parts stores didn't have the correct shape. Got directed to a place at the end of a road, and the owner said, "I might carry what you're looking for in the back, hold on a second" and rounded up all 5 employees to kick them out the front door and literally locked in their face, so we two could go in the back where he kept the NOS hoses. I was almost glad to not find the hose I was looking for there and have to subsidize the guy, but I would hear afterward about how he nickeled and dimed vendors, the town, etc. It wasn't just the IRS and his employees he didn't trust, it was EVERYONE who was out for his money.

To borrow an old joke, he could make his own copper wire from spending a penny in his pocket. And perhaps it wasn't even the money that was the issue, but the fight. Some people can't pass up a bet, or a fight. They can't pay the price quoted, they'll still angle for a deal. Some people just have to "win". A good deal still isn't good enough. And boy can they be miserable to be around for too long.

For whatever the reason someone takes their deductions, however....in my opinion, I wouldn't trust Fox and Sons Construction to build my hen house for me. I'm not going to automatically begrudge the money makers, but I don't automatically think they have my financial interests at heart, either. I don't think a wealthy dude has a lot in common with me, and I don't expect them to. Like a hot chick, they live in a world of more opportunities, and I live in mine. If they come up with a tax plan that gets slammed by a few organizations, however, yes, I will complain about that. its not just me who has to pay taxes, why not speak for others who don't understand how finances and taxes work? why not have an opinion, and if its backed by facts, share it? I would like the idea of some of the flat tax plans, even tho now i'm in a place where it could hurt me. We're all a little weird when it comes to money, however...most of us think of our mechanic or a lawyer as out to screw us, yet when we have a problem, who do we run to?
 BeckyHT
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Posted: 10/21/2016 5:13:52 PM
After watching the 'Al Smith' dinner last night...

I'd be delighted to be in the 'adorables' basket.

I did find some things quite amusing.

e.g. the kids who said they couldn't turn in their homework because it was under audit...
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
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Posted: 10/21/2016 5:22:06 PM
Anyone who doesn't take deductions legally available that will not trigger an audit (unless you can afford one) is a martyr masochist.
 flman2015
Joined: 10/3/2015
Msg: 69
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Posted: 10/21/2016 6:59:55 PM





it's funny how Trump blamed Hillary when Trump admitted to not paying income tax at the 2nd debate.


What occasionally gets a bit annoying is the abject stupidity of his supporters. His 1995, 916 million dollar loss is not the result of loopholes in the tax code, it's the result of extreme incompetence. He claimed depreciation - which is not a loophole - accounted for most of the loss. It would take 22.9 billion dollars of depreciable real estate assets (land cannot be depreciated) to produce 800 million in depreciation.

It's _obvious_ his statement is a childish, totally ridiculous lie. His losses weren't the result of tax loopholes but Grand Canyon sized brainholes.

Today, someone worth 10 billion and, presuming the entire 10 billion are in depreciable assets, the maximum depreciation would be in the ballpark of 384 million. The 532 million dollar difference is mostly the result of extreme incompetence and total lack of business sense.

As his accountant stated, that pathetic cherry-grabber doesn't have a clue about accounting or the tax code.




Anyone who doesn't take deductions legally available that will not trigger an audit (unless you can afford one) is a martyr masochist.


When someone has 916 million dollars worth of deductions on assets barely worth that much, it isn't because of loopholes in the tax code, it is because of, as Mark Cuban put it, spectacular incompetence. (Note: _barely_, because he had to trade his yacht for a rubber ducky to make ends meet.)


His business incompetence keeps showing. His most valuable asset was his luxury brand which he has pretty much destroyed hence the desire to create DeplorableTV. Sell hate and junk to the mediocre minds that support him.
 halforhalfnot
Joined: 9/13/2016
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Posted: 10/21/2016 7:11:09 PM
A year and a half ago I speculated here that Trump's presidential run would destroy his brand. New Trump hotels will not be bearing the Trump name. Since hotels with that name have had to cut rates and still have low occupancy rates.

I will take my victory lap now.
 Doremi_Fasolatido
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Posted: 10/21/2016 7:40:34 PM
If you look at our media and some of the things that seem to crop up most frequently you'll see not just Kardashians, but also Trump.

They're both famous for.... Well, you tell me. Those Kardashians have been noted. and touted for the size and shape of their rumps.Huge, hard to ignore, and in your face.

Trump.... Well, shucks. The guy doesn't just act like a Huuuuge ass but he even has the word RUMP incorporated into his name. He's also in everyones face and they all seem to have more money than brains.

Is this where we're headed? Biggest loser, biggest assez, supersize our lunacy??? Egads, what are we devolving into?
 Maleman999
Joined: 2/14/2010
Msg: 72
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Posted: 10/22/2016 8:28:22 AM
I saw an interesting newspaper editorial about post-election Trump (if he loses), and why he'll be in the limelight for a while Here's the beginning of the article:

If you think the media circus will end after Americans finally vote on Nov. 8, think again.
The media has created a monster; it will demand feeding for years to come. And frankly, journalists will be happy to oblige.

For proof, look no further than Sarah Palin, the much-parodied former Alaskan governor and vice-presidential candidate during the 2008 U.S. presidential election.

After becoming a caricature of herself and losing on voting day, you'd think she'd be banished to relative obscurity. Instead, she went from politician to "media personality," a leading promoter of the fledgling Tea Party movement, a Fox News commentator, a writer of two books, and a regular on the promotional circuit. She launched her own TV program, as well as an online news network, the Sarah Palin Channel.

Can you imagine what lies ahead for a candidate who was already a reality TV star, is addicted to the sound of his own voice and his own reflection in electronic mirrors, and who is perhaps the best self-promoter the world has ever seen?
 halforhalfnot
Joined: 9/13/2016
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Posted: 10/22/2016 8:36:18 AM
But he'll have to say increasingly ridiculous shit in order to keep making the news. He's doing that now in the middle of what is still nominally a contested election.

He will become the Ted Nugent of celebutards. Plus, he actually is going to be audited. And there's the lawsuits.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
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Posted: 10/22/2016 12:01:49 PM
""""'Can you imagine what lies ahead for a candidate who was already a reality TV star, is addicted to the sound of his own voice and his own reflection in electronic mirrors, and who is perhaps the best self-promoter the world has ever seen?""""

a billion dollars, multiple houses, lots of golf, luxurious travel and vacations, deals and business hidden from the childishly vengeful leftists, great kids and many grand kids to make him laugh.
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 75
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Posted: 10/22/2016 12:07:04 PM

a billion dollars, multiple houses, lots of golf, luxurious travel and vacations, deals and business hidden from the childishly vengeful leftists, great kids and many grand kids to make him laugh.



All paid by you and his other fellow supporters. You must feel very very proud.

Yet, you chirp about those "others" making America "not so great"????????

Take a bow.
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