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 Coma_White
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Well, the biggest problem is how clueless these statements are. The fact of the matter is the porn industry has tons of magazines and sites devoted to showcasing overweight women. If no men found them attractive, these things would not exist, and it has to be more than just a few men to justify the amount out there. Men's tastes are way more divers than you may realize. Your initial statement was that no short man could really be physically attractive. Really....you are going to stand by this stuff. If there was a guy who posted stuff about overweight women on here like that, someone like you would not look at that guy in a positive light. If you say yes, you are either lying or very superficial. You cannot BS your way out of that.


You missed a huge difference there. Men that are into overweight women are into them because it's a fetish. It would be very unusual to have a height fetish. In general, men don't want overweight women. Women have the advantage there because they can change their weight.
 2ufo
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Posted: 7/1/2018 1:32:39 PM

Men that are into overweight women are into them because it's a fetish.

Not necessarily.
Sometimes men are into the woman with the fact that she's overweight nothing more than simply a physical aspect of who she is in total.
Of course, that requires getting to know women who you (the generic you) aren't immediately attracted to. It also explains why some men get married to slender women but don't immediately file for divorce if/when they gain weight.

I'll concede that it isn't what men what but most people inherently recognize that perfection is contextual and fleeting.
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 7/1/2018 1:39:37 PM


It's not easy, but it is simple. Kind of like me having to approach a senior citizen gal Every Day in public, asking her if she wants to have a 3-some on video with me tonight, with a camera in hand. Yes, it's a simple concept. But holy hell, do I NOT want to have to be doing that!
???

I was making an example of something that is not complicated, and quite simple to understand -- but emotionally tough as hell to do. Us humans tend to erroneously equate the two -- if it's emotionally complicated & difficult to handle, it's a complicated situation (not so).

Let's change some of these words around and see how it looks......

"Some guys like heavy girls"

When that line is thrown, a majority of that does not equate to BBWs. Usually equates to girls with some "cushion for the pushin", as in she's got some a$$ on her, chest, some meat on her bones -- specifically not thin and could-lose-some-weight, but the curves are in the right places. If the guy himself is Big, yeah, then it may creep in the BBW range.

Take away fame and $$ knowledge, and take two strangers, where each have many singles options around. In pretty much Every single case, a girl's not going to want a guy shorter than she when he's also one of the shorter guys in the room. And still in a large majority, she's still not going to be attracted to a guy who's one of the noticeably Shorter guys in the room if she's average height or taller -- unless he'd be solidly out of her league if he was a bit above average height or more.

So I would say it's fair that taking away fame, $$, previous years of friendship, etc -- a reasonably attractive gal going for a shorter guy than she (not just in heels) is about the same as a reasonably attractive slender/athletic guy going for a true BBW. In other words, if you're the BBW or short guy -- don't bark up the wrong trees. :)

The fact of the matter is the porn industry has tons of magazines and sites devoted to showcasing overweight women.

It doesn't reflect the % of guys who like BBWs for dating. Same old same old porn gets boring. Variety is key for sales. Just because I can be in a certain mood to enjoy watching a particular video of a senior citizen woman who isn't gross looking getting pounded by the pizza delivery boy -- doesn't mean I'm going to be hunting down senior citizen chicks ("Sausage pizza, ready to deliver Mildred!"). And for me, I don't like studio porn-star porn -- although if any one of those carved-out porn star look a-likes were at the bar, I would certainly have a high attraction to pork her. Point being: Porn genre website "hits" don't reflect what pulls guys in to approach, IRL.

You missed a huge difference there. Men that are into overweight women are into them because it's a fetish. It would be very unusual to have a height fetish.

Agree. I think another KEY thing missing here: Single non-wholesome guys, generally speaking, *IF* given the truly no-strings opportunity on a silver platter, will hook up with a variety of women they wouldn't Date. Women, generally speaking, won't roll that way. Big difference between "just hook up" offered on a platter to you (porn watching) VS willing to approach gal at the bar to generate some interest and get a # (fully/truly attracted).

Anyway, I'm not heavy but I know I'm not most men's cup of tea. I try not to allow people I'll never meet or speak to, especially online strangers, to have a derogatory effect on my self-esteem.

You're quite physically attractive, on a universal level, sorry. While not every Hot guy is going to be That-into you, (a) Pretty much every hot guy who's single would at least happily take a no-strings hookup with a gal who looks like you on a Sunday afternoon, and (b) There's absolutely No shortage of very attractive guys who Are that into you, on the attractive level. If you have potential self-esteem hits on your attraction from men in general to veer from, we mine as well send average Janes to a therapist, right now (and below average Janes to the psych ward!).
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Posted: 7/3/2018 7:23:59 AM
The woman's height doesn't always mean the children will be shorter. If both parents are short it is more likely. My parents are both short and me and my sister are both short but my sister had a kid with a guy who is over 6 foot and that 6 month old is huuuge. Like the size of a small 2 year old I swear.
 CBGB77
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Posted: 7/3/2018 7:26:47 AM
My girlfriend is 5'4" and her 26 year old daughter is 6'
 Sweet_Danimal
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Posted: 7/3/2018 2:57:39 PM
A friend from college was a statuesque blonde at 5' 10" and whined a lot about being too tall for dates back then. She is still a very attractive and intimidating figure now - especially in heels.

Her last family photo posted in Facebook was with her three kids - sons 6'10" and 6'9", and daughter 6'0" She looks like a Hobbit in comparison. It's all about perspective.
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Posted: 7/5/2018 7:58:26 AM
“My point is -- women don't go for guys taller than they nor guys needing to be a certain height minimum, because of conscious potential baby-output. Those who Truly do, are statistically insignificant. Not to mention there are women who are looking to just-date anyway and are willing if the guy is real cute to them… you'd instead be frustrated that you were always in a casual relationship, and gals never wanted to get serious.”

I don’t remember if it was on this site or a dating thread on another site, but years ago a woman pointed out something to me that I thought was profound: she refused to date any guy she saw no possibility of a long-term future with, even if he was cute and she was single and bored. I considered that practically an assault on my livelihood, since nearly all of my dates at that point (and subsequently) had been with women (more like girls) who were just experimenting. But she said that was a decision derived from experience: what if you’re just “casually dating” someone you know is a bad long-term match and fall in love with him/her? Love is addicting. Your brain says this person is a loser and will be an albatross around your neck until the day you die, but your heart’s saying you can’t live without this person. So why even allow yourself to get into that situation? A million people (including me) told my ex-girlfriend that it was a BAD IDEA to date me no matter how much she was crushing on me, but she did it anyway, and she was all addicted to that bad idea by the end and it hurt like hell to rip that bandaid off.

In a sense, it’s the same as dating a “great” short guy even though you’ve long feared the possibility of short children. Of course, many women date guys they know they have no business dating, but making an “exception” for short term “bad boy excitement” is a whole different world from making an exception despite the possibility of midgets. Frankly, I don’t think these women are statistically insignificant, though I do think in many cases it is more subconscious than conscious just like with most other dating decisions. That said, I’ve seen quite a number of short women actually outright say they took/take the possibility that they will end up with short kids if they mate with a short man into strong consideration when considering dates (including at least one in this thread). There are now couples having to take into consideration that they both carry a recessive disease trait when they make child-planning decisions (I read an article a few days ago about a couple who were both sickle cell carriers and KNEW it [heck, the man is a doctor] and decided to have kids any way, and both kids [yes, they did it again after the first] ended up with sickle cell – how the hell is that fair to do to the kids? I am a sickle cell carrier – I would never intentionally have a child with a woman who was also a sickle cell carrier, no matter how much I loved her). But of course in those cases, the couples usually have already been dating a long time if not married before they discover they’re both carriers of a genetic disease, so that’s not something that they’re thinking about when making dating decisions – the short woman can obviously tell a short man is short immediately.

"It also explains why some men get married to slender women but don't immediately file for divorce if/when they gain weight."

I think that's part of the "addiction" factor of love, plus people don't become overweight overnight -- it's a gradual process, similar to aging -- if your 25 year old lover suddenly looked 80 the next day, you'd probably boot him/her out of bed, but over the course of 55 years you'd probably barely notice the aging (except for looking at old photos/videos). I think my best friend looks even younger than most people thinks she looks (she's also in her 40s) but I've known her continuously for 20 years so her aging hasn't been obvious to me, same as couples who've been married that long. But back to addiction: I think it's difficult to fall out of love with someone that you truly, deeply love just because his/her appearance changed, even suddenly (like loss of limb or hideous disfiguring from an accident). That's even true often with personality changes -- many women stay with men who suddenly start treating them like dirt after 15, 20 years. All that said, I've never been in love with someone and probably never will be, so I may have no idea what I'm talking about with this "addiction" thing.

#472: feels like you took the words right out of my post. :)

“Your initial statement was that no short man could really be physically attractive.”

I think what she meant is that shortness in men is not attractive, not that short men can’t be attractive. You’d be hard pressed to find a woman with a short man that listed his shortness as one of his attractive traits to her, yet I’ve heard many, MANY women say that of tall men, or more accurately, tallness in men. For that matter, although there are a lot of men (relatively speaking) that find overweight women attractive, it’s not very often you hear a guy say that his significant other’s obesity is one of the traits he finds attractive in her. Sometimes I do hear that from women about their “cuddly teddy bear” guy, but that’s arguably just a by-product of tall height in most cases – short and overweight in men doesn’t work quite as well with women as tall and overweight does.

“There needs to be something extraordinary about him (talent, very high self-confidence) for his height to be a non-issue, or not-as-big-an-issue.”

As I’ve said before, this is my life’s greatest frustration: trying to be extraordinary and failing miserably. Or, even worse, actually succeeding in some area that attracts women (like body building or academics) and it not changing anything. I mean, I’m in my 40s now – I’m just so tired of jumping through hoops while watching other, better-looking people just be themselves or even complete failures and getting all the attention in the world.

“There are plenty of short men and overweight women who are married or otherwise partnered.”

I don’t have any stats on this, but anecdotally I’ve noticed the vast majority of American (that is, non-Hispanic and non-Asian) short man couplings happened in high school or college. Women/girls with little dating experience often don’t know what they want (or more accurately, don’t have the experience to know what they DON’T want) and tend to be much more experimental with who they date – nearly every woman/girl I dated was in her late teens or early 20s (obviously in my 40s, that’s not going to work out so well anymore), including several who were taller than me. Coupling at older ages is just more difficult in general, mostly because there are just far less single older people and the ones that are single often have more issues than those part of decades-long happily married couples.

And when you think about it, any short man who finds a wonderful woman in his teens or early 20s that doesn’t care about or will make an exception for his height would have to be crazy to let her go or do anything that would make her want to leave him, so many of those women are off the market for good (including such women that couple up with tall guys, because they’re just wonderful women every guy would want anyway). At this point, there’s not much doubt age is the primary issue for me – I mean, me not having had a date since it was last appropriate to be dating women in their early 20s is probably not coincidental. I know, I know, there’s going to be some 50-year-old single woman appear in this thread who’s like “Hey, I don’t care about height” but that’s going to be an exception to the rule that just happened to make a lot of noise in this thread. I have seen quite a few women claim they are LESS picky as older women than they were in their teens and early 20s, but they’re really talking about balding/graying/spare tire/etc. Obviously all of our attractions and interests evolve over the years and things that were important as teens certainly aren’t as important as middle agers and vice versa, and most older people have to become somewhat less picky to successfully date because there are less options. But again, we’ve also built up far more prejudices that lead to “there’s no way I’d ever date someone with THAT quality again.” Hence, quite a few instances in this thread of women saying all the short guys they’ve dated having a Napoleon complex – when they were younger, they obviously didn’t have such prejudices or they wouldn’t have dated a short guy to begin with to gain that prejudice and had the short guys they dated NOT had that supposed complex, they would never have gained that prejudice (this is true about many other things besides short male height).

Point is, being a short young male is tough but not insurmountable dating-wise. Being a short older male – you best be extraordinary. And I’m not. So short of winning the lottery...
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 7/5/2018 1:03:41 PM

she refused to date any guy she saw no possibility of a long-term future with, even if he was cute and she was single and bored.

What she says and does are two different things -- even when they're not lying to you. More than one thinks. But for the sake of argument, let's say she's pretty much In that boat. First, how someone looks can alter how they FEEL about them as a Person, for the long-term. So some of that is just Attraction more than one thinks. So I can see merely being cute wouldn't cut it when LTR-minded. But of a certain look + more than just cute... yeah, if she's single & bored, she'll want to see potential long-term future. That has an effect on how He projects himself on her (in terms of being that into her), AND how nice looking he is and his type.

Point being: In the end, she's Explicitly in non-fling mode, and she only wants to deal with seemingly Relationship-Worthy guys. A lot of girls who Do have STR's & flings are in that mode, tho. Kind of like Sally who says she doesn't want to date yet another a-hole again. We're taking bets! ;)

what if you’re just “casually dating” someone you know is a bad long-term match and fall in love with him/her? Love is addicting. Your brain says this person is a loser and will be an albatross around your neck until the day you die, but your heart’s saying you can’t live without this person.

I don't think it's that Sci-Fi. Especially for those With dating experience and have fallen in love before. If they are a Loser, and you Feel they're a loser, your heart Isn't saying you can't live without them -- but instead, it's too tough. Later. Oh, I know it's later now, but I will, I swear. Oh, we're doing great now. Okay, I was mistaken, I will soon. Yeah, I'm going to do it later. (... on and on and on until Finally breaking up for Reals ...) I don't think it's True Love addiction, but just social/non-platonic addiction that's enough to keep one around.

So why even allow yourself to get into that situation? A million people (including me) told my ex-girlfriend that it was a BAD IDEA to date me no matter how much she was crushing on me, but she did it anyway, and she was all addicted to that bad idea by the end and it hurt like hell to rip that bandaid off.

That may be different though. When you date someone who's Not THAT into you, and you're more into them, it's a temporary I-want-them-more. It's not true love fueling it, even though it will spawn similar emotions. Although it's a strong feeling, even after it breaks off, for some folks (and others go, "Why was I SO into him/her?"). We want what we can't quite have. Because it emotionally puts us in a position (if somewhat realistic) that they're a better catch than what we deserve, and dammit -- I'm not Lower on the totem pole than they, right? I CAN have her (or him)!

it’s the same as dating a “great” short guy even though you’ve long feared the possibility of short children.

That's very different than wanting ONLY Relationship-seeking guys. But yes, if it's Really Not the possibility of having short kids -- even though that's an idea, or shall I say Justification to avoid guilt or being physically judged yourself -- it Will be Overcome if the guy IS sexually attractive & cool (good catch), while still being taller than she. Not hard to overcum that. :)

That said, I’ve seen quite a number of short women actually outright say they took/take the possibility that they will end up with short kids if they mate with a short man into strong consideration when considering dates (including at least one in this thread).

FFS -- it's them being nice. There's SOME truth to it when they think about it fishing for a "nice" reason -- but it's WAY overblown with you in the room. Grain. Of. Salt.

It's to make YOU FEEL BETTER. They would NOT be saying that if they thought you were hot and wanted to jump your bones. It's about sexual attraction, but they don't want to be judged too much on that. Bottom line.

You’d be hard pressed to find a woman with a short man that listed his shortness as one of his attractive traits to her

You'd be hard pressed to find a woman with a guy with a pot belly that listed pot bellies as one the things she finds attractive in men. Again, not "big" or chubby or whatever -- but having a pot belly specifically. They can end up growing to love him and think it's 'cute' and all, being in great honeymoon phase. But that's different. I think a guy being short, without being rail thin, is about the equivalent.

For that matter, although there are a lot of men (relatively speaking) that find overweight women attractive, it’s not very often you hear a guy say that his significant other’s obesity is one of the traits he finds attractive in her.

Overweight -- having some junk in their trunk and explicitly Not slim or close to skinny at all -- yeah. But of those guys, PLENTY are not wanting a tride & true 'fat chick'. They may like to go "fat chick hunting" because they don't their mind rejections, and they're easier lays overall from their luck. And some guys end up Liking that because it ends up being associated with being loved from their experience. Much smaller chance, of course. If the guy's fat himself -- yeah, it feels more comfortable (league level; real chances). Slender athletic guys? Uhhh, yeah good luck.

Finding a short guy? Shorter than SHE? Practically zero. A guy who's NOT tall? Better (obviously with her not tall herself). A guy who's kinda short (compared to other guys) but good build? Yes, you can find that specifically liked among some gals below average height to real short. But of course, don't count on running into one who's shouting that out.

At this point, there’s not much doubt age is the primary issue for me – I mean, me not having had a date since it was last appropriate to be dating women in their early 20s is probably not coincidental.

You not having had a date in so long is affected by you being short, yes, of course. It's not The reason you've been dateless. That's on your Game. You're just allowed little room for error -- but here's where we both disagree vastly: Your game is off Way more than you think. No, it's not going to make you bat .300. But it will turn you from a 5 year old batting in the majors to a pitcher going to bat who can once in a good while at least get a hit.

“There are plenty of short men and overweight women who are married or otherwise partnered.”

Yes. But I will say that the overweight part can happen After partnering up. Shortness, not really at all, of course. On the part of starting to go steady -- at that phase, is the only thing one should be paying attention to. And throwing out ones with good/known $$ and ones who've known each other for quite some time as friends beforehand.

Guys are going to be into merely "overweight" women moreso than girls into guys shorter than she in heels + him being an actual Short Guy. But, that does depend on How Much overweight we're talking here. And how overweight He is.

Hence, quite a few instances in this thread of women saying all the short guys they’ve dated having a Napoleon complex

It's there, but overblown. Much of the time, it's an excuse why they're not into Joe, when Joe's single & she's single. There's some truth to it, but it's exaggerated in their minds + to others, to avoid seeming/feeling superficial.

Point is, being a short young male is tough but not insurmountable dating-wise. Being a short older male – you best be extraordinary.

No, I see no trend for an older guy not getting a gal. I think when you're younger it's Easier to get girls In General. More active pot to dig into, and a lot more single. It's easier for everyone "then". When older, solidly past college age, you have to learn to make new friends in an arena where you're not sharing a new dorm building in college. If you do that well, then you didn't limit yourself. Can actually be better, too.

My advice? Change your comfort zone. What makes you feel uncomfortable -- take it as a clue: It making me feel uncomfortable is what's costing me. I'm SUPPOSED to feel uncomfortable for this to change. Change is supposed to feel like you're combing your hair with your left hand in front of a judgmental person. :) Again, it's supposed to FEEL like it. To yourself. Change is tough. THAT part is harder when older.
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Oh, shit. NG vs. Hawking. I see a server crash in our future.
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Oh, shit. NG vs. Hawking. I see a server crash in our future.


The Battle of the Bloviators.
Take cover now. It's gonna hit the fan.
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Oh, shit. NG vs. Hawking. I see a server crash in our future.


At least one of them is using the
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^^^Yep. Love Hawking, but his lack of quotes kills me.
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I put my $ on NG, he resembles my younger son a bit
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Posted: 7/6/2018 2:11:21 AM
well, i'm late to this party, but noticed this:

"I'd like to be more selfless, considerate, personable & positive."

>>>the more curiousity we are born with, the more we investigate our own selves. The more we get to learn and then know about ourselves. Hopefully we also appreciate what we find, even the weak points. the more "blank spots" we fill in about our identity, the less we need others to fill them in for us--we fulfill our needs more and more. We learn our strengths and what we can undertake ourselves. We "need" less often. When we find out what we can give to others, we start giving it, and we get less selfish. We become more considerate, b/c we emphasize. We offer more personality b/c we know more of what we can offer. we feel more in control b/c we do more for ourselves, and we get more positive--not that life is great, so much as we feel we can handle what does get thrown at us. We get fooled less by people, we get less frustrated that they can't give us what we need, b/c we provide for ourselves more, and need less.

of course, it also can lead us to...reaching out and creating a smaller circle of friends. We don't need as much, so we don't put up with as much. We seek the people who treat us with the respect we start treating ourselves with. We want the people who see in us, what we now see in us. if we used to use our sexuality, or our money, or our passive consideration to win people over...we may cut back, b/c we aren't trying to win attention anymore, we're looking to share.

"Love is addicting. Your brain says this person is a loser and will be an albatross around your neck until the day you die, but your heart’s saying you can’t live without this person. So why even allow yourself to get into that situation?"

>>>we get addicted to the rush of being in love. And of course, there's that "tickle in our pickle" that doesn't go away. The longer you have another person in your life, the more they become a part of your life. Cutting a long time partner loose, is cutting part of your life loose. And then you have to deal with the fact that you have all that investment in them, and failed to make it work. What does it say about you? Some people can replace "long time partner" with "long time employment" or "money pit house".

back to the server crashing debate, didn't mean to defuse that trainwreck.
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At least one of them is using the quote box.


Yes. I have no idea how anyone could not know how to use them at this point.
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At least one of them is using the quote box.


Yes. I have no idea how anyone could not know how to use them at this point.


But why does no one use it to show who they are quoting?
 MachIMustangII
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Posted: 7/6/2018 8:47:00 AM
well, I don't b/c i'm computer illegitimate, but I can't say what everyone else's justification is. I find the one person i'm quoting figures out its them, however :) I guess it works in that case.
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Posted: 7/6/2018 2:54:08 PM
quote]Men that are into overweight women are into them because it's a fetish.


Not necessarily.
Sometimes men are into the woman with the fact that she's overweight nothing more than simply a physical aspect of who she is in total.
Of course, that requires getting to know women who you (the generic you) aren't immediately attracted to. It also explains why some men get married to slender women but don't immediately file for divorce if/when they gain weight.

I'll concede that it isn't what men what but most people inherently recognize that perfection is contextual and fleeting.


I would say it's some combination of the following.
1. Some men (not the majority of men) are more attracted to larger women.
2. Some men may prefer a thin or fit woman. But would date a larger woman if she had a reasonably pretty face, good personality etc.
3. Some men would date a larger woman that they aren't overly attracted to because they don't want to be single
4. Some men think larger women are "easy". Not my personal viewpoint.
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Posted: 7/6/2018 3:47:30 PM
I sometimes think though that maybe because I'm overweight that I need to be easier. My life count though is 4 guys I've ever slept with so I wouldn't say I'm easy but I've considered becoming easy. But there's a fine line. I've heard that for some guys its a selling point and others it just tells them you are too easy and therefore less valuable. And then there's the whole age thing...When I was in my early 20s I held out and wouldn't sleep with someone unless I got to know them really well but now that I'm 34 I wonder if that's too old to hold out. Expectations are different for women my age, especially ones with kids...the more I think about it the more confused I get.
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Posted: 7/6/2018 4:39:42 PM
^^ Well quite thinking about so much July....

You are a grown woman....if you meet a man that you find sexually attractive....have at it!
Just keep in mind....sex is sex. It doesn't equate to a relationship or love.
Do it without expectations...and do it safely and discretely...
you don't need permission from anyone but yourself...
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Posted: 7/6/2018 4:42:23 PM

put my $ on NG, he resembles my younger son a bit

Mine is on hawking, he is a short man so he knows of what he speaks. NG just rambles on nonsensically, eventually getting to some point that no one really knows for sure what it is.


I sometimes think though that maybe because I'm overweight that I need to be easier

Do you just walk around with victim written on your forehead? This is one of the more stupid comments you've made. Is your self esteem that low that you see yourself as nothing but some dudes cum dumpster. You don't need to be easier, you need to be you.


the more I think about it the more confused I get.

Quit thinking about it. You don't need a relationship!!! You need to fix yourself! I wish I could bring you to live with me for a year. Your days of being a hopeless helpless victim would be far behind you. You think you hate me now!
 browneyesboo
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Msg: 497
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Posted: 7/6/2018 4:44:00 PM
Having sex is not being "easy".
Have sex because you want to and you enjoy it.
You're in charge of your body.
As Ms Micki said, be safe and only
Do it if YOU want to.

What's with sex being bad, for pete's sake?
If someone wants to have sex and enjoys it, they're not a cum dumpster....geez.
 MsMicki
Joined: 10/2/2006
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Posted: 7/6/2018 4:57:54 PM

You don't need a relationship!!!

She didn't say she wanted a relationship....she said she wants sex!!
Nothing about wanting sex makes someone a victim....

maybe getting laid would mellow some of you out!!
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Posted: 7/6/2018 4:59:05 PM

What's with sex being bad, for pete's sake?
If someone wants to have sex and enjoys it, they're not a cum dumpster....geez.

Oh for christ sakes where did I say sex was bad! She said she sometimes felt like she needed to be easy. btw, do You ever own up to your own shit.? You constantly make snarky remarks and twist what is said, then you whine and cry and play victim when you are called on it. "Those ****es are just so mean, can't figure out why" you're pathetic! Look at your own behaviour, you certainly arent innocent!
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Posted: 7/6/2018 5:06:05 PM

She didn't say she wanted a relationship....she said she wants sex!!
Nothing about wanting sex makes someone a victim....

maybe getting laid would mellow some of you out!!

its her low self esteem thats making her a victim. You are another mouthpiece shit disturber who likes to play victim. Those meany heads, cant believe what they say to me. meanwhile, you are constantly running your big fat mouth.

Thanks for worrying about my sex life, I can manage it just fine without you!
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