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 joepof89
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The problem are American woman shouting about the Me Too movement. Same shit as Black Lives Matter.
 MachIMustangII
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Posted: 7/13/2018 6:12:01 AM
"I've never heard of black people in Australia having so much trouble dating"

>>>how about the Aboriginies?
 ssm508
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Posted: 7/13/2018 8:07:21 AM

Honestly I think it may be more difficult because you are in America. I've never heard of black people in Australia having so much trouble dating. I think people in America are more racist maybe. Men think height matters more than it really does, as long as the guy isn't actually 'short'.

Race can be a factor for OLD. A black man would probably have a smaller potential dating pool than a white man with similar traits. In particular in more rural areas. That being said, if someone like Hawking added 6 inches to his height, he would probably get more emails from women. I also agree people in interracial relationships can get rude comments and stares on both sides. Although maybe not as quite as much in more urban areas.
 CBGB77
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Posted: 7/13/2018 8:19:50 AM

Posted By: MachIMustangII on 7/12/2018 1:07:39 PM
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Message: "What's a Walmart? Do they sell, like, wall stuff there?"

>>its an oversized device that kills small malls, main streets, and local family business like a noxious, invasive weed breed, except instead of denying water, it denies paying customers. It has a side effect of denying its employees unions and benefits, so they go on the public dole instead. When your town reaches a certain population, it'll be there, too. but if it tries to bring a bunch of restaurants with it, your town can declare it will drain the water table and deny it. Mine happens to be open 24/7 and serves a pair of local universities, so its foliage can be bright and interesting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0xAWt_2qnY
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Posted: 7/13/2018 9:23:05 AM
Race definitely plays a factor in dating. Where I live, it's the Native Canadians that face a lot of discrimination although there's always been a lot of mixing between Native women and white men but there's a definite power imbalance. Even online dating, I've looked at a lot of the female profiles to use as comparison for who I'm competing against and I've noticed many of the Native girls are very sexual in their profiles, basically saying they up for anything. Native guys on the other hand, I think they face challenges because not too many non-Native women will go on dates with them due to being worried what people will do/say/think and Native women are trying to get with white guys. There's a situation in the Native community where there's a big push for women to have as many babies as possible (to counteract the attempted genocide that occurred the last few centuries) and as many Native men are poor and unemployed or underemployed, women want to get pregnant with guys who have more money. I know quite a few guys who have a kid out there with a Native woman from a one-night stand or fling. I know someone who was a teacher at a reserve school and she said probably 80% of the kids born there have Native mothers (treaty-status) and non-treaty fathers (likely Non-Native) who do not live on reserve, as listed in their files.

When I'm looking on POF, I get a lot of messages from non-white men, many of them black or East Indian. My concerns about these messages are not-so much racial based but they are concerns about their status as non-Canadians. I worry that many of these men are trying to hook a Canadian girl so they can get married and get citizenship. I've heard of it happening before. If a guy has his Canadian citizenship though, I have so concerns because then I know I wouldn't be looked at as a potential means of citizenship.
 CBGB77
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Posted: 7/13/2018 12:25:29 PM

Posted By: julystorm22 on 7/13/2018 1105 AM
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Message: Race definitely plays a factor in dating. Where I live, it's the Native Canadians that face a lot of discrimination


Native Canadians? You mean like these guys?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssCZWBtwUTI
 HawkingJr
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Posted: 7/13/2018 2:27:43 PM
“I think people in America are more racist maybe.”

No doubt about that. For all the criminality behind Australia’s founding, it’s not like they enslaved an entire minority race for 200 years, then when that got vetoed by civil war, segregated, tortured and vilified that race for another 150 years (and counting???). Obviously the treatment of Aborigines wasn’t exactly grand, but really that was more similar to what happened to Native Americans here (again, not particularly positive but ultimately a few steps above the treatment of Africans). Where I’m from, most white children were taught from birth that the Bible said blacks were inferior species and to be treated as such, ESPECIALLY in regards to “race mixing,” one of the ultimate sins – that’s what the parents were taught and that’s what their parents were taught and that’s what their parents were taught and it just keeps going back and keeps going forward. “In the South the past is not dead... it’s not even the past.” In the United States in general, each generation is more progressive in basically every respect, but the Deep Rural South is arguably becoming more regressive, as the likes of Trump and David Duke freak those whites out about losing their jobs, their identity, their culture, blah, blah, blah because of the invasion and advancement of non-whites.

But back to dating: I think I already said this somewhere in this thread, but the most important aspect for anyone is location, location, LOCATION. Where I grew up, there was obviously no hope. But although I am in a fairly progressive major metro immediately surrounded by literally tens of thousands of times more people than in rural Alabama, I am still technically in the South. As such, you go more than about 5 miles outside the city limits of Tampa or a Pinellas municipality, you are already back in the country, and that even includes my county’s third largest municipality Plant City, which might as well be in Alabama. If I do a 25 mile search, a ton of the women that show up live outside the city limits and many of them have “mudding” and “hunting” as interests. If I lived in New York or Los Angeles, almost no 25 mile search would bring up women with “mudding” or “hunting” as interests. So, yeah, I’m much better off than I was in rural Alabama (as proven by the fact that I do occasionally get some interest and have gone on dates in the [distant] past and even had one real girlfriend), but I am nowhere near as well off as I would be in many other places in this country and around the world. But moving elsewhere and leaving behind good jobs and housing and friends and especially WEATHER (I would not survive one winter in NYC) just out of the hope that it is not YOU and you’ll find your dream date in one of those other places is easier said than done.

“Men think height matters more than it really does, as long as the guy isn't actually 'short'.”

And your definition of “short” is...

Obviously you being even short for a woman, you are likely to think “short” is shorter than the average woman. I’m sure most short men are like me and didn’t realize being short was a BIG issue with many women until much later in life – in my case, it wasn’t until deep into college, because all my girl problems before then were race-related, as I just said. Not once in high school did a girl say anything about rejecting me because of my height – it was ALWAYS about my race. ALWAYS. Not ONE exception – not even a “I just think of you as a friend,” but instead always “race this, race that.”

But after a couple years in a much, much larger more progressive school (college) in Florida with many, many more options and the rejections still piling up, I started looking into the matter, especially after several women actually did tell me I was too short to date. (I also still got a few race rejections but not anywhere near as often as middle/high school.) When OLD came into existence, that’s when it became overwhelmingly obvious, since so many women write directly into their profiles: you better be taller than me, or a certain height. And sites like Match actually have height filters directly on them that nearly all women use. If it REALLY didn’t matter that much to women, I don’t think 95% of Match participants would be filling out height minimum requirements. In real life, it probably matters less than OLD, but still, even there, it factors in.

The vast majority of my dates were the result of OLD sites that don’t have height listings. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of dates I’ve gotten on sites with height listings. (FYI, I can also count the number of dates I’ve gotten from real life situations, where the women obviously knew my height at the time they met me, on the fingers of the other hand.)

Which is why my failures on Tinder and Bumble are so troubling. Again, I’m pretty sure that’s an age issue – those previous dates from sites without heights came during my 20s. Now there are a lot less single women period interested in a man my age (because most are married or otherwise in a committed relationship), and certainly women this age are far less “experimental” than teens/young women as I previously pointed out, plus: I look almost exactly the same I did when I was in my 20s. It freaks people out. I mean, I haven’t even started going bald (got my bald brother beat there, but I’d take his height over my hair any day of the week). Very few 40-year-old women want to date a man that looks as young as their sons.

So it’s issues like those that make me reluctant to move to a completely new place that might be more progressive, because those are going to be issues no matter where I move, and maybe they are issues I can’t overcome. Then I’ll be friendless and alone and without a support system in a new city, maybe for the rest of my life. Awesome.

But if it’s New South Wales, at least they speak English there! Unlike all these Asian and Latin American places people are always trying to get me to move to because "everyone is short there" (not true).
 fullmoonguy2
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Posted: 7/13/2018 3:23:45 PM

Men think height matters more than it really does


I suppose we must be mis-interpreting all those "MUST BE AT LEAST 6 FEET TALL" disclaimers in the About Me's, then?
 blackbeauty744
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Posted: 7/13/2018 3:38:02 PM

I look almost exactly the same I did when I was in my 20s.


sweetheart black don't crack
 lulz567
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Posted: 7/13/2018 3:55:32 PM
Omg I’m never dating a short man again, turned out to be a right mean hitler and I was doing him a massive favour bothering because I like tall guys. Live and learn
 Coma_White
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Posted: 7/14/2018 10:13:26 AM

Omg I’m never dating a short man again, turned out to be a right mean hitler and I was doing him a massive favour bothering because I like tall guys. Live and learn


That's a great way to start a relationship. Have the attitude of doing someone a favor.
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Posted: 7/14/2018 4:56:35 PM

HawkingJr
When OLD came into existence, that’s when it became overwhelmingly obvious, since so many women write directly into their profiles: you better be taller than me, or a certain height. And sites like Match actually have height filters directly on them that nearly all women use. If it REALLY didn’t matter that much to women, I don’t think 95% of Match participants would be filling out height minimum requirements. In real life, it probably matters less than OLD, but still, even there, it factors in.

Ah, yes, Match and their height requirements. Reminds me of a story, hell, everything reminds me of a story, but never mind that.

Back in 2010, shortly after my divorce, I was trying (and failing miserably) at doing this newfangled online dating thing. So I started doing research, and found the forums, which were, believe it or not, quite helpful. One of the things I read was that height was a great advantage. I now understand that isn’t actually true, it’s more like being short is a disadvantage, and being tall removes that one disadvantage.

But I’m all hepped up, being tall is good, and I’m definitely tall, so how do I parlay this into actual dates? Being the ingenious fellow that I am, I conceived of a plan to message all of the tall women. I searched for women 5’11” and over, and sent out a whole slew of messages.


Greetings! I see that you’re [insert height here], well I’m 6’2” and I think we would make a great couple on the dance floor!

I also heeded the advice about including something from their profile, so I thought I was all set. Just sit back and wait for all of the replies. But of course, it didn’t work out like that. It seems that women who ARE tall see it as an impediment, and don’t want you to mention it. Kind of like, “My, what a big nose you have!” And much to my dismay, many of those women weren’t actually tall. They confused this site with Match, and they thought they were filling out an order form for the man they wanted to date.

“Let’s see, he should have blonde hair, a slim build, and, oh, yeah, minimum of 6 feet tall!”
 Kissfromarose77
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Posted: 7/14/2018 5:04:17 PM

Omg I’m never dating a short man again, turned out to be a right mean hitler and I was doing him a massive favour bothering because I like tall guys. Live and learn


There’s no proof that being a right mean Hitler is due to a man’s being short. Personality has nothing to do with height. Hitler was 5’8 1/2, rather average for his time. Maybe you should stop trolling and go back under your bridge. I work with a lot of short Chinese and Filipino coworkers who are only about 5’5 and they are very friendly and well-mannered.
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Posted: 7/17/2018 8:38:32 AM


"What's a Walmart? Do they sell, like, wall stuff there?"

>>its an oversized device that kills small malls, main streets, and local family business like a noxious, invasive weed breed, except instead of denying water, it denies paying customers. It has a side effect of denying its employees unions and benefits, so they go on the public dole instead. When your town reaches a certain population, it'll be there, too. but if it tries to bring a bunch of restaurants with it, your town can declare it will drain the water table and deny it. Mine happens to be open 24/7 and serves a pair of local universities, so its foliage can be bright and interesting.




Walmart does a lot of bad things, mainly because municipalities allow it, giving them socialist TIF money. They indeed put mom & pop small business out of business. One thing you won't hear from the liberals is Walmart gives the vast majority of their jobs to women, and because they become the only employer for miles around, they prevent men from getting a job anywhere. They also allow shoplifting by having self checkout lanes (most people who use self checkout are shoplifters. It would save money to have more checkout lines open with real people).

I live in an area with literally hundreds of small municipalities, so what happens is they all offer ridiculous handouts to Walmart and Costco to build within their limits. Usually Walmart is only open for 5 or 10 years, then they move a mile down the road into another municipality to bribed them more, resulting in empty parking lots, empty buildings, and more environmental destruction when they build the new Walmart. People who choose to shop at Sam's Club and Costco are wrecking the economy and making poor people poorer.

But one common fallacy by liberals is the claim the women who work at Walmart and at fast food joints NEED to receive welfare handouts in addition to their paychecks. The people who seek higher minimum wage (usually $15 or more) often make this claim. In reality, anyone can live gainfully on $8 per hour working 30 hours per week. Quit spending money on alcohol and cigarettes. Quit going out to restaurants. You don't need the luxury SUV (many welfre queens have multiple vehicles. An acquaintance of mine is on food stamps and she has a Mustang, an Explorer truck, and a new Escape). If rent is too high where you live, get one or more roommates. Under no circumstances should anyone with a job receive welfare. (People without jobs shouldn't receive welfare either, but people with jobs especially shouldn't). It is a good thing to get your groceries at Walmart instead of a union grocer because union groceries are not affordable for most people. Most of the price increase goes to union bosses and pensions. The typical high school worker at a union grocery store makes less than minimum wage because of union dues deductions. Better for the kid to work at Wally World.
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Posted: 7/17/2018 9:16:25 AM
HawkingJr:
Hmm well in Australia they basically put everyone through years and years of essentially guilting for the treatment of indigenous Australians. Nothing is really taught about african Americans and honestly I'd say this country becomes more and more progressive at a speed even faster than the USA.
-<5'10" is getting short. My boyfriend is 5'9" but he did lie about his height on his profile lmao by 2 inches but it didn't really matter since I just really like him. Just keep trying and try to get to know women online or in person, women will overlook height if they really like you. They are the ones that matter anyway.
My dad is shorter than me and so is my mum. I'm the tallest in my family lol.
 fullmoonguy2
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Posted: 7/17/2018 10:10:25 AM

My boyfriend is 5'9" but he did lie about his height on his profile lmao by 2 inches but it didn't really matter since I just really like him.


And that's what all the liars are hoping for, that someone will like them enough to overlook the lie, so the lies keep on happening.
 Tech30
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Posted: 7/17/2018 10:20:36 AM
yeah and if he can lie about something like that what else is he lying about? She wont know until its too late.
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Posted: 7/17/2018 10:39:55 AM

I have no desire to meet n greet at the local Timmy's. Honestly, in a small town if two people get seen together at a table anywhere it gets around like wildfire.

Basically, you're saying you Can't be 1-on-1 Friends with him, because word gets around that there may be something more than just friends, as he got back together with his wife. Thus, you Can't be FWB -- just fvck buddies. As I said, people can know each other some before becoming Fvck Buddies -- but for whatever reason, just keep it to night time hookups instead of developing a real friendship. Fvck Buddies is not FWB.

Where I’m from, most white children were taught from birth that the Bible said blacks were inferior species and to be treated as such, ESPECIALLY in regards to “race mixing,” one of the ultimate sins – that’s what the parents were taught and that’s what their parents were taught and that’s what their parents were taught and it just keeps going back and keeps going forward.

You need to move out of the south, or to a different area in the south that's more fitting for ya. Easier said than done, but usually we don't want to do it, and want reasons why we "can't"... when we can. Look thru the long-haul, not for the first 6 mo to a year, but for 10 years. Compare the positives & negatives.

If it REALLY didn’t matter that much to women, I don’t think 95% of Match participants would be filling out height minimum requirements. In real life, it probably matters less than OLD, but still, even there, it factors in.

It is a big deal. IRL the details don't matter as much among strangers, but yes, it still matters. Matters a bit less when they're someone you already Know IRL vs strangers. What always plays the big role which you should never Expect to be a non-factor (anymore than expecting to run into your cousin when visiting another town, randomly) -- is that if you're The short guy in the room, you won't have a chance unless you're at least a bit Taller than she.

Which is why my failures on Tinder and Bumble are so troubling. Again, I’m pretty sure that’s an age issue – those previous dates from sites without heights came during my 20s. Now there are a lot less single women period interested in a man my age

You can lie about your age by a few years. Be 37, instead. "Wait, no! What if a girl likes me, and then I have to tell her I'm 40, not 37?" You haven't been in that boat since Back to the Future 2 opened up in theaters. So consider that a problem you Wish to have. :) A lot better than no dates, and it isn't necessarily a death knell.
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Posted: 7/17/2018 2:19:08 PM
“That's a great way to start a relationship. Have the attitude of doing someone a favor.”

I only highlight this because it may be the first time in 5 years we’ve agreed on something.

“sweetheart black don't crack”

My brother has looked like he’s 50 since he was 25. When I’m 50, I’ll still look like I’m 25. That’s just messed up. Not aging is awesome for women, terrible for men, unless you’re in some sort of position to be able to date 18-year-olds when you’re 40 (aka, rich and famous).

“I now understand that isn’t actually true, it’s more like being short is a disadvantage, and being tall removes that one disadvantage”

Yeah, I don’t think a lot of tall men get that. “Well, if being tall is such a big deal to women, then how come I never get any dates, huh?” Although I will occasionally see a woman put her profile “I like TALL men” (almost always a very short woman – tall women just say something sheepish like “I’d prefer a guy who’s at least as tall as me”), I’m pretty sure no woman has ever dated a man JUST because he’s tall. After all, 50% of all men are by definition taller than average, so how the hell would you even be discriminating if the ONLY thing you cared about was that the man is tall? Being tall just prevents you from getting filtered out right away by women for whom that is ONE of several important characteristics in her potential dates. It is just about the easiest thing to filter, though, on sites with height searches, because it is quantitative. Some women may claim they filter out guys that don’t have great smiles, but you can’t search by smiles.

“They confused this site with Match, and they thought they were filling out an order form for the man they wanted to date.”

Well, the good news is that I’ve learned that it’s much easier to get a stupid girl to date you than a smart one.

“<5'10 is getting short.”

Certainly you are allowed to be attracted to what you are attracted to, but pray tell me how 5’10” is “short” to a 5’1” woman. Even with heels on, you’re still shorter than a 5’6” man. How did you evolve to the point where a guy taller than you but under the average male height feels “short” to you? Especially if your dad is somehow shorter than you are (really, he’s 5 feet even? I can count the number of men I’ve met in my life that are shorter than me on my fingers).

And I just cannot lie to attract women. I even find lying by omission problematic, but I’m pretty much stuck with that, because if I put my height on Tinder or Bumble, I’d never get ANY matches. Furthermore, although I could probably get away with lying by a couple of inches on POF or Match, it would not do me any good, because the problem is not being taller than a woman – the problem is not being tall. And 5’6”, 5’7” is not tall, and about as likely to produce no interest as 5’4” – heck, you basically said that yourself by claiming less than 5’10 is short. And how am I supposed to get away with showing up to a date 6 to 8 inches shorter than what I put in my profile? The shame alone would kill me before I got to her table, even if she was shorter than me (which would probably lead to, “Well, I don’t even care about your height but you lied to me so GOOD BYE!”, and, yeah, that wouldn’t increase my suicidal tendencies or anything).

“You need to move out of the south, or to a different area in the south that's more fitting for ya.”

For climate reasons, there are really only 3 choices in the US: Miami (where not being Hispanic will definitely get you discriminated against – my best friend’s daughter is half-Hispanic and gorgeous and SHE felt like she wasn’t Hispanic enough when she lived there!), Hawaii (you got $2000 a month for a studio apartment?) and maybe Southern California, although last time I was in LA, it was pretty darn cold – and it was August! I’ll be in San Diego for the first time in 3 weeks – we’ll see how that works out. But, man, if you think Deep South women are shallow and discriminatory, wait until you get a load of Deep South California girls.
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Posted: 7/17/2018 2:29:53 PM
"Walmart does a lot of bad things, mainly due to municipalities giving them socialist TIF money"

>>>they wouldn't be the first corporation getting tax breaks and handouts from local governments to get jobs, any jobs, into an area, and its as much Republicans as Democrats doing it. Look at pro sports coliseums, same deal.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20140604/business/140609441/

As for self checkout, I wouldn't use one until I get a discount for working for store...which is what anyone using one, is doing. They're saving the company payroll, so why not get a discount for it? The notion liberals are sheltering WalMart is interesting, I thought they were Whole Foods snobs.

"As Americans become more politically polarized will we choose to patronize or avoid a store, brand, product, or restaurant based on that corporation’s political activity? For example, if you are an active Democrat would you avoid Walmart if you knew that their corporate contributions lean towards Republicans? You could go to Target instead, but their contributions also help fill the GOP coffers. If this information leaves you feeling in a blue state and you want to shop that way, then head on over to COSTCO where Democrats receive 99% of all contributions."

People can live on $240 before taxes? is that without kids? Its nice your friend has 3 cars, did she pay cash? :) Walmart is simply doing what capitalism allows, and the results are a problem for the working class.But if they can live on $240, then every Trump supporter saying no one listens to their problems...should talk to you and learn how to live and stop complaining, apparently :) You've just argued they aren't living correctly and have nothing to worry about.

as far as lying on a profile is concerned....tell the truth, lower your odds of finding dates BUT increase finding a date who likes you for who you are. Lie and give people what they want, increase your number of first dates and what you spend, but lower your number of second dates.
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Posted: 7/17/2018 2:59:41 PM
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Certainly you are allowed to be attracted to what you are attracted to, but pray tell me how 5’10” is “short” to a 5’1” woman. Even with heels on, you’re still shorter than a 5’6” man. How did you evolve to the point where a guy taller than you but under the average male height feels “short” to you?

NG will be along shortly to explain this one. ("It has to do with how he compares to other guys in the room.") When I talk about a man being short, I am not talking about his height in terms of my own; I am talking about his height in terms of other men. A man who is 5'6" is a short man, despite the fact that he is taller than a woman who is 5'1".
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Posted: 7/17/2018 3:36:10 PM
"When I talk about a man being short, I am not talking about his height in terms of my own; I am talking about his height in terms of other men. A man who is 5'6 is a short man, despite the fact that he is taller than a woman who is 5'1."

Admittedly my posts are annoyingly long and stuff often gets lost to the average POF reader, but I actually said almost exactly that, nearly word-for-word, in the very next paragraph after the one you quoted, so I understand why short men are considered "short" in general. My question to her was more about her specifically, as she suggested that a man less than 5'10" (which is, of course, exactly the average height of men) would be short to her, for dating purposes, even though that's 9 inches taller than her.

Not that it's even necessarily something she can answer because determining why we are attracted to certain characteristics is usually easier said than done because so much of it is subconscious (why was I obsessed with redheads for much of my youth? I have no idea), but I continue to find it interesting that women almost universally agree (despite this "opposites attract" mythology) that the most important consideration when it comes to dating is commonalities, and scientific research agrees: the vast majority of couples involve similar people, by age, ethnicity, religion, body type, etc., although common interests in these couples aren't as strong as some people would like to believe, if for no other reason because by the very law of evolutionary socialization, men and women frequently have gender-specific interests, no matter how sexist some might feel that sounds.

But there is one single exception to all of this: short women are overwhelmingly not attracted to short men. So with her I was trying to come to some understanding why that would be true, especially since her father is short (as statistically, women usually do end up with someone similar to their fathers as well). A lot of short women have tall fathers and brothers, so them I better understand, but when the most important man in the first portion of your life is short and yet you still grow up to look down on short men -- I mean unless, he was mean or abusive or worthless or generally absent, I just don't get how that happens -- at least as often as it happens. Again, ultimately there are many things we will never understand about what we find attractive. I guess I'm just lucky I didn't somehow end up with an attraction for tall women (just to clarify, height really doesn't matter to me at all, but for practical efficiency reasons, I just look at tall attractive women for a second, then move on -- it has nothing to do with me NOT finding tall women attractive. I mean, for God's sake -- nearly all of the world's supermodels are tall! The day I reject the interest of a supermodel -- that'll be the day!).
 lulz567
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Posted: 7/17/2018 4:19:20 PM
We don’t know where the men have been either but deal with it. It’s an excuse to control a women. Contraception is in a neighbourhood near you. If I got pregnant then I will check my calendar. He doesn’t need to work out who is the lucky guy, I’m sure most sprint like Linford Christie anyway.
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Posted: 7/17/2018 7:00:46 PM

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But one common fallacy by liberals is the claim the women who work at Walmart and at fast food joints NEED to receive welfare handouts in addition to their paychecks. The people who seek higher minimum wage (usually $15 or more) often make this claim. In reality, anyone can live gainfully on $8 per hour working 30 hours per week.

In my 8 years on these forums, I have seen some really crazy things posted. This just may be the worst. You not only pegged the crazy-meter, you pegged it so hard you bent the needle.

I am not going to bother to refute your craziness. Anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows that it is NOT possible to live on $240 a week, pay rent, buy food, find transportation, etc, etc, etc. Never mind go to the doctor, the dentist, find clothes to wear,

Your ignorance and prejudice disgusts me. I’ll just leave it at that.
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 7/17/2018 7:07:59 PM

For climate reasons, there are really only 3 choices in the US: [Miami, Hawaii, and So-Cal]

Ummm, no, there's not only 3 choices for decent weather. Seriously. If you honestly think that, I think it's a reflection that you're missing a lot of things related to the dating/social scene as a whole.

so I understand why short men are considered "short" in general. My question to her was more about her specifically, as she suggested that a man less than 5'10" (which is, of course, exactly the average height of men) would be short to her, for dating purposes, even though that's 9 inches taller than her.

To some gals, short = not "tall". Like under 6 foot to many of them. That said, few are short women, so you don't need to worry about that trend, but usually gals who are above average female height, or not short but live in a tall area, where the average white male can easily be 5'11".

But there is one single exception to all of this: short women are overwhelmingly not attracted to short men. So with her I was trying to come to some understanding why that would be true, especially since her father is short

Because it's Not so much how you compare to HER height -- you just need to be at least as tall as her in the shoes you both wear as the minimum -- but how You Compare To Other Guys In The Room. That's something people miss out on. After you pass the expected bare minimum (vs her height) -- the real focal point is how you size up vs other potential catches.
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