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 Deplorable1
Joined: 9/26/2016
Msg: 26
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Mad because 'we' lost? You lost, now take responsibility.

You do realize that makes absolutely no sense?
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 27
when was america great??
Posted: 11/12/2016 1:44:08 AM
Why are leftists so race obsessed?

When did they become such globalists? Oh, right. When they realized that globalism helps other people more than it helps Americans.

All I hear from leftists is a lot of "It can't be done" and "How's anyone going to do that" and "Well, it won't be perfect and solve ALL problems so let's not do anything,."

Lazy.


This country so great. As I lived in a few others, I can tell you. Many of the citizens of America are horrible, judgmental, common, vulgar, entitled, crass and condescending.(But we can ignore them.)

America, however needs work. On this lewd society that it has become, on its bridges and mass transit and roads, on bringing people to the reality that unless they start sterilizing people with IQs under 120, everyone can't go to college, everyone shouldn't. A nation that fails to make the basic things of life is one too dependent on the whims of other nations. You people need to get out more. Shoes and clothing made in the USA does not mean $50 flip flops.

You leftists talk about the working class and blue collar the way Stormfront talks about Jews.

Record yourselves and listen.
 Maleman999
Joined: 2/14/2010
Msg: 28
when was america great??
Posted: 11/12/2016 3:28:19 AM

Why are leftists so race obsessed?


So says the woman who wants the borders closed and keep out people of other races to keep the country pure, and assumes anybody in the country who is of middle east or Mexican descent is an illegal alien.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 29
when was america great??
Posted: 11/12/2016 5:03:31 AM
When will leftists learn that immigration is not about race and that illegal immigrants and visa violators come in all races?


As an aside, the beauty of the protests is that Ferguson was peanuts by comparison and the coverage once again shows the bias of the news media.
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Why shouldn't he keep the pre-existing condition and allowing children to stay on their parent's policy provisions?

If he had dropped those parts, you people would complain about that.


 HawkingJr
Joined: 4/16/2007
Msg: 30
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Posted: 11/12/2016 5:30:41 AM
We all know what Trump and his supporters mean about when America was great. The greatest era of America to me was the last couple of years ending on 11/8/16. The economy was solid, we weren’t in a hot war, I had a good job and so did most of my friends, my friends and I had the most civil rights we’ve ever had and ignoring the occasional Trump supporter flare-up, I was suffering the least discrimination in my life. Now things are going to change considerably – all of the positives of the last few years will go in reverse, including the economy when Trump starts his trade war.

“Many of the citizens of America are horrible, judgmental, common, vulgar, entitled, crass and condescending.(But we can ignore them.)”

Tough to ignore the one like that we just elected president. I mean, seriously, Dee – who is lewder than Trump? And you think the man who said he grabbed women by their p*ssies and appeared in a Playboy soft porn video is somehow going to make society LESS lewd, vulgar, entitled and crass? How do you reconcile this absurdity in your mind?

“By chance, did you happen to notice that Republicans managed to take control of both house and senate?”

The Republicans already had control of both houses – they lost seats in both and now just barely have control of the Senate.
 purplerider1200
Joined: 9/10/2011
Msg: 31
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Posted: 11/12/2016 5:49:35 AM
^^^^ You might find this as a novelty, but I always have. I own what I say, and live with the consequences. It this day and age, that's rare. Hillary promoted the h ell out of that. Nailing her to the wall is like nailing Jello. In fact, it might be easier to do the latter. I look at her as a lazy blame thrower. That vid clip of her throwing a tantrum about wanting to be 50 points ahead, fit her all too well.

Things change. Get used to it.
 Ouija2025
Joined: 6/11/2014
Msg: 32
when was america great??
Posted: 11/12/2016 5:50:37 AM
I have amused myself telling ppl he had a cameo in Home Alone and Sex in the City.
So Dee.. if all the illegal immigrants are deported is that going to make America great?
 dragonbytes
Joined: 9/15/2015
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Posted: 11/12/2016 5:55:31 AM
You all do realize that the Republicans want to change Medicare so that the Government gives you money and you have to buy health care from private companies?

Privatize Medicare.

Medicare keeps costs down by only paying hospitals and doctors what the Government determines is a fair price, which is much lower than what people with private healthcare have to pay.

So the costs of Medicare will increase dramatically while taking the Government out of the medical industrial complex and letting politicians off the hook for the problems this creates for people on Medicare that can't afford the price increase.

They will have Fixed Medicare and as a bonus, they can blame Trump for all the future problems, Trump isn't a career politician, it's possible he won't even understand what is going on, and why should he care, after being POTUS he goes back to being rich and a reality personality.

I seriously doubt the middle class and lower classes understand that the Government is the one the controls Medicare prices, pays social security and the Republicans want to privatize that also.

Privatize means more profits for big business and less money for private citizens, and you will also get a tax cut with might equal a few $100 a year. But the rich will get richer and everyone else will go a little more poor.

Canada looks better and better, but if too many people want to escape up north, I am sure Canada enact tougher immigration laws to keep USA people out. I doubt Canada will ever want to build a wall, but it will be a legal wall.

One thing 100% for sure, we will get change.

The new Republican control over both houses of congress, the Presidency and future supreme court nominations will mean total absolute power for at least the next 2 years. The only things in their way is that Republicans are a fractured party and Democrats will try and stop them, but they are the minority party. Funny enough, Democrats are the majority in the country.

We will get CHANGE, but will those who voted Trump in actually like the changes we get?

Good luck.
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 34
when was america great??
Posted: 11/12/2016 6:09:07 AM
As the pot of shiat has been turned down a bit and sitting on the stove simmering, waiting to be served, the bowls and utensils have to get collected and placed on the table. It's been awhile for dinner to get ready but, it's almost time. We (well, not we, more like YOU down south of the border) hopefully have an empty stomach and are hungry for what you are about to be served.

Trump is the president-elect. Supposedly, he is to lead the USA out of it's troubles. He has said he can do it, and the votes are in. It's time for him to shut the phuck up, along with a few of you here, and get doing his job. His counterparts from the other side have offered their hand, and despite what many think, their past experiences and wisdom to get him going.
Most of us know that Mr.Trump has never really told any of us of what he believes "great" actually means. Those willing to accept what he said, can't even tell us, and you can use these posts in this topic as examples to show that fact. I'll give anyone more time to come up with something more than you have already. We'll be waiting.....
Now that Mr. Trump got what he wanted (he did want this, right?), it's time for him grab that ball that he wanted and run with it. Time for him to actually act like a leader, to unify the division that he had part in creating/making bigger. Only time will tell if it's even possible. So here you go. Take the ball. Run. Make sure you are going towards the correct goal line though. NOW!!!!! You only have so much time, and the clock has started. Your country is waiting Mr.Trump. Show us the money!!!!!!!!
It's was pretty easy to get pissed off people to jump on the ship, now let's see if you pissed off people can row. Cause, he ain't gonna do sweet phuck all without you. And it is gonna to take a bit of time to convince the others to jump on that same ship. Something that should have been thought of beforehand but, I digress. For those yipping about how great he is, you really have no time to waste here. You haven't been able to convince a whole lot of us here for awhile now, with your incoherent, ignorant and arrogant words. We don't want to hear about it, we want to see it. Words have no more meaning anymore. The election is OVER! Game time!!!!!!! All eyes are now are on you Mr.Trump, and your supporters.

Oh, it's just part of the job, so get use to it. You put the target on your own back when you decided to make your country "great",,,,,AGAIN??????
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 35
Trump can't blame the system once he becomes the head of it
Posted: 11/12/2016 6:28:43 AM
Why do Dems talk about race? B/c there's a tall green woman in NYC who has "melting pot" stamped on her. Ignoring the impact of race tends to lead to some of our domestic issues, like for instance how infrastructure in certain neighborhoods doesn't get as much attention. And yet it wasn't Dems associating Mexicans and rapists and criminals on TV for all to see. Yikes!

Its interesting to claim "Lyin' Hillary" when Chump's favorite phrase during debates was:

"I never said that"

when we all saw him on TV, saying whatever it was he was lying about saving. And now look at all the campaign promises he's turning around on, like an Establishment puppet listening to his real leaders. Guess those who believe he says what he means got fooled again, like a lover falling for a narcissist. Yikes!

The Republicans love to privatize as much of the government as possible, and not just b/c of promises to Grover Norquist. If one government project works well for the hoi polloi, then they can argue that other government programs have the potential to work just as well, and then the Republicants are standing on a slippery slope, trying to hold back social programs popping up like mushrooms to help out voters who might vote for a party that doesn't get in their way.

And now Chump no longer has a place to pass the buck. Its all on him to be leader, to do things better than hire Scott Baio to explain things at the Republican Convention. He's got to get the A-list people he said he can get, and he's got to roll up his sleeves, and only he will be to blame when he can't bring dead industries back to life to get people to work. Can't claim the "system is rigged!" once HE is the system, now can he?

yikes.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 36
when was america great??
Posted: 11/12/2016 10:21:33 AM
What is there to reconcile, Hawkings?

Are they mutually exclusive?

Oh, I get it. It is like YOU make a comment about the size of man's hands but when the person that you are talking about responds, suddenly HE is vulgar. Uh, OK.
Or like you people post lewd and vulgar things every day here (for self titillation, mostly) and yet you complain about Trump.
THAT is ludicrous and absurd

And yes, as I have said, over and over again, what Trump was surreptitiously caught saying was lewd and rude.
As far a public policy and supreme court appointments? Meh. Not the same. Not related.


Hillary didn't win. She is accepting and partying. Maybe you should do the same.

Attacking your president if he breathes is not good for our position in the world.

You leftists did this with Bush. And the second that anyone did the same to Obama you brayed "Racists, Racists. You should support the President and respect the office."

Can you do the same? Apparently not.

While having lunch, I am watching MSNBC. Where do these people live? In what world?
One woman was afraid to say something positive about Trump because she didn't want to be subject "to the firing squad."

Sad/ Sad/Sad

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EDIT TO BELOW:
I love you too Walt. LOL.
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 37
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Posted: 11/12/2016 10:33:12 AM
^^^^^ Get to work.

You have no time to eat or watch.

You now have to do, so that there actually is something "positive" to say.

Your words have less meaning today, then yesterday.
 daynadaze
Joined: 2/11/2008
Msg: 38
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Posted: 11/12/2016 10:45:31 AM
Trump voters lost because they think he's going to give them something that he can't give, never planned on giving, and isn't in his best interest, and we all know that Trump is Trump's best interest. That isn't the job of the president, but that's how Trump roles. And yes, I guarantee you that Trump plans on putting his three oldest kids into offices, he doesn't trust very many people, he has to keep it close to home, and since his kids are only successful because he pays them, they will do what he says. Even Ivanka, his Jewish, Democrat daughter whom he has said sexually inappropriate things about, will stick to his side. Even her husband is tied to Trump, these kids have his way or the highway. You lost because he's not the man you thought you were voting for, unless of course you are saying you want a demigod as the ruler of your country.

If I am wrong, and somehow Trump is good for the country, well that would be great, wouldn't it. But I'm not holding my breath.
 Maleman999
Joined: 2/14/2010
Msg: 39
Trump can't blame the system once he becomes the head of it
Posted: 11/12/2016 11:02:02 AM
One of the zillions of obstacles for Trump is the U.S.-along with other western nations-live in a fast food society, where everybody wants instant results due by yesterday. So when Trump says he wants to build the wall along the entire border, deport millions of people, bring companies and good jobs back to the U.S., everybody is thinking each one will be a weekend project, and if it takes longer than a weekend, then there is something wrong. People don't realize major projects and undertakings can take years to come to fruition, that might even go beyond a president's term. Are people willing to wait four years or more to get those cushy, high paying jobs in the new companies that pop up in their home town that Trump promises to get them? Is Trump willing to speed up the deportation process by using his own private jet to send them back?

The most favorite tactic of all politicians is to blame the previous government for the current government's problems. How many Trump supporters will blame Obama for any problems Trump encounters if Trump says it's all Obama's fault, because he screwed up the country so badly, it will take time to fix his mess before he can get the country back on track to being great again?
 2ufo2
Joined: 8/29/2016
Msg: 40
Trump can't blame the system once he becomes the head of it
Posted: 11/12/2016 1:21:04 PM
The United States is great.
It has always been great.
(Not perfect, but great)

And one of the greatest things about the United States is our freedom to point a finger at our politicians (demigods and demagogues alike) and...
LAUGH.
 razors_edge55
Joined: 11/25/2013
Msg: 41
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Posted: 11/12/2016 1:39:54 PM
If it is great for some but not all ,,,you could say the same about nazi germany ,,,I liked what Hawking J said ,,
that was a personal story ,,,the thing is in our history there has been greatness ,,but like roe v wade ,,gay marrage ,
and other things,, some are happy some are not ,it is slow this change to greatness for all ,,like being perfict ,
it's something you work toward ,,never obtain,the path is the thing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, so the trick question was how can we be great "again" when we
have not been great yet ?
 2ufo2
Joined: 8/29/2016
Msg: 42
Trump can't blame the system once he becomes the head of it
Posted: 11/12/2016 1:56:05 PM
Another great thing about the USA is that when we 'mess up', we work to make it better (sometimes against each other!)

Are we always right?
No.
Is it a bumpy road?
Oh, yeah.

If you can't recognize 'greatness' in US history both as a country and in individuals then perhaps you're like a perfectionist who discounts everything that is not perfection?
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 43
Trump can't blame the system once he becomes the head of it
Posted: 11/12/2016 2:46:25 PM
I guess i'm not a perfectionist, b/c America sure needed French help to kick out the Brits...after the colonials relied on British Naval Power to protect commercial ships from pirates. Other countries abolished slavery before we did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarianism

The Red Cross began in Switzerland and "Doctors Without Borders" has a French name for a reason :) I'm poking fun at you, 2ufo, America does a lot, b/c it has resources. Other countries with resources do a lot, too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement

"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else."

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/winstonchu135259.html
 Butterchickenchuck
Joined: 9/18/2015
Msg: 44
Trump can't blame the system once he becomes the head of it
Posted: 11/12/2016 2:50:26 PM
I went to Disneyland when I was 9 years old.

Did that experience cause me to conclude that America was great at the time ?


Frick ya !
 2ufo2
Joined: 8/29/2016
Msg: 45
Trump can't blame the system once he becomes the head of it
Posted: 11/12/2016 2:57:55 PM
GTO - Love the quote!

Yes, the US is not the only nation that contributes to raising the quality of life around the world.
I'm partial to Norway, myself.

Butterchuck - I didn't get to Disneyworld until I was 30 and I agree with you!


In order to maintain the highest quality forums you are restricted to having no more then 2 of the last 10 posts on a thread. Since 2 of the last 10 posts are yours you can not post to this thread.
 Butterchickenchuck
Joined: 9/18/2015
Msg: 46
Trump can't blame the system once he becomes the head of it
Posted: 11/12/2016 3:21:00 PM
^^^^


That's a shame , seeing Disneyland as an adult just isn't the same experience.

Adult experience : hey, this is pretty cool

Child experience : WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 HawkingJr
Joined: 4/16/2007
Msg: 47
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Posted: 11/12/2016 7:04:22 PM
“And yes, as I have said, over and over again, what Trump was surreptitiously caught saying was lewd and rude. As far a public policy and supreme court appointments? Meh. Not the same. Not related.”

You weren’t talking about public policy and Supreme Court appointments. As I’ve said over and over again, I get that: hold your nose and vote for someone you think is personally reprehensible because their policy positions are more in line with yours. What I don’t get is constantly complaining about the lewdness and crudeness of our society and then acting as if lewd and crude Trump will fix that. Why would Trump want to make society more inhospitable for people like him?

"One woman was afraid to say something positive about Trump because she didn't want to be subject 'to the firing squad.'"

This is most certainly cutting both ways. At my workplace it is almost impossible to say anything negative about Trump without a dozen people ganging up on you and ripping you a new one for daring to offend the GREAT TRUMP (and my bosses are doing nothing to stop this behavior). In fact, one reason I've spent so much time discussing this topic on this website is because I can't have a conversation about it anywhere else because I'm in "unfriendly territory" and can't afford to upset people around me with my true feelings for fear of losing friends (well, obviously they aren't my REAL friends), losing my job or having to work in an even more hostile atmosphere.

A white teacher near where I live was recently suspended for telling three black students shortly after the election that if they didn't behave, Trump was going to send them back to Africa. The only shocking thing about that story to me was that he was a teacher -- usually conservative teachers aren't that dumb. But certainly Trump has emboldened white racists to reveal their true selves. My Facebook feed makes me so sad these days. Not because of the 90% that are depressed over Trump being elected, but discovering who the 10% or so are that voted for Trump -- including my ex-girlfriend and another former romantic interest. Makes me wonder if it was my relationship with them that turned them to support a racist -- I haven't been real friends with any of them in almost a decade, so I guess they evolved without me realizing it, and it wasn't until Trump was elected that they were suddenly proud to admit what they had become.

I've slowly come to realize I was just a pet to most of these people -- which is a revelation I previously had growing up in Alabama about the "polite" white people (as opposed to the vast majority back in those days that were always threatening me with lynching and cross burnings). This whole Trump thing has made me very distrustful of white people again, and it took many years away from Alabama before I got that trust back. Now everywhere I go and see a new one, I think to myself: more likely than not, this person supported a racist, xenophobic, misogynistic demagogue. I voted with my best friend, and I even wonder about her sometimes, despite what she claims: did she REALLY vote for Clinton or did she join her husband in voting for Trump? (My other best friend unquestionably vote for Clinton -- heck, she practically campaigned for Clinton. No worries about her!)

“The only things in their way is that Republicans are a fractured party and Democrats will try and stop them, but they are the minority party.”

They do have the filibuster, which is still good for everything except some budget matters and lower court appointments. McConnell has indicated he has no interest in taking it away, but if Trump feels like his agenda is being stalled by it, we’ll see what happens.
 razors_edge55
Joined: 11/25/2013
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Posted: 11/13/2016 1:52:44 AM
Doing a great thing does not make "you" great,,,it's the act that's great,, I see it like this ,,America is a very good cop,,
goes to work every day,does good things when they can but once in a while he goes home and beats his children,,,,then feels bad and says to himself "I got to fix this" Once you start to believe
you are "great" ,, where is the drive to improve ,,you walk around like that and the party is over,
I grew up in Fla,so for me it was Disney World,,,pretty great
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 49
when was america great??
Posted: 11/13/2016 4:43:25 AM
I am not looking at Donald Trump to fix the lewdness and crudeness of society.
I don't think that was on his platform or list of important issues to address.

Otherwise, I understand completely what you are saying.

The tragedy of that teacher situation is that she was only suspended.

It is sad that there are some on both sides who don't allow others to talk and that we can't just have conversations. I hope that it is changing with the younger kids. I see my youngest disagree with friends and then continue to play. (As long as the parents don't get involved.) So I have hope.

I recall years ago reading in the DC or NY paper (can't remember where I was living at that time) an interview with a black man because northeastern liberals couldn't understand why blacks in Louisiana weren't more concerned about David Duke running for Congress or Governor or some office in Louisiana. The black man said that he at least knew that David Duke was a racist and that if he went too far someone would take him out.

What I saw was someone who felt that covered racism, the kind of many liberals, is much more dangerous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs

(As an aside, Do you ever watch this guy? (Some Black Guy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnOvmHSrUrI)
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 50
when was america great??
Posted: 11/13/2016 6:41:43 AM

Why are leftists so race obsessed?



From elsewhere:

(For the racists, this is about culture.)

Why are the "rightists" so obsessed with "culture"?

Many of the citizens of America are horrible, judgmental, common, vulgar, entitled, crass and condescending.(But we can ignore them.)
Or; make one the President!!



America, however needs work. On this lewd society that it has become,

And you think that having a new "President Erect", grabbing women by the pvssy, and with "NSFW" pictures of your First "Lady", all over the internet, will somehow improve your "lewd" society?

You leftists talk about the working class and blue collar the way Stormfront talks about Jews.
Record yourselves and listen.

Funny that. Because most "leftists" are working class.
I'm sorry if your childhood was "ruined", by a Spanish-speaking, cross-dressing, transgender, "muslim", union-activist, being in your 'bathroom'.
I "get that".
But you need to move on....
Have a happy Sunday.
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