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 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 4101
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manufacturer jobs are increasing.

do you really believe that these jobs and medical school slots, would not be filled if foreigners were not allowed in?

a country can make it more or less financially feasible to do business in a certain country. other countries do it.

i still don't get why leftists think foreigners have a right to come to and remain in the usa.

they don't.

if the usa had brought in as many germans as we have illegals now, we would all speak german.
limits are what we are talking about.

limits.

limits


limits that work to our advantage, not the advantage of the people we allow to come.
 poppata
Joined: 8/6/2017
Msg: 4102
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/18/2017 4:27:43 PM
Not giving you the source Dee
.but facts today about US manafacturing.

****In fact, US manufacturing is not "growing" or even recovering at all. After last week's punk report for August, it still stood 4% below its pre-crisis peak in December 2007. Statistically speaking, US manufacturing output has been shrinking at a 0.41% annual rate for the last 10 years!

By contrast, between the June 1990 and August 2000 cyclical peaks, manufacturing output grew at a 4.6% annual rate. That decelerated sharply to 1.8% between the mid-2000 peak and December 2007, but at least it was still expanding on the back of the Greenspan mortgage/housing bubble***
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 4103
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/18/2017 5:11:45 PM
Manufacturing relies on sales. As the Baby Boom generation passes on, the customer base shrinks unless its replaced by youth or sooner by immigration of customers old enough to buy. Construction jobs will spike in a few months to rebuild Texas, FL, and whatever may get wiped out by hurricanes this month. Whoever stayed behind in the storm will get hired, likely immigrants with little family to run to and a fear of getting picked up by ICE, just like after Katrina.

watching Ken Burns doc on Vietnam. Its nice to know America learns historical lessons.

http://www.pbs.org/show/vietnam-war/
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 4104
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/18/2017 5:33:24 PM
@4116


manufacturer jobs are increasing.


the only manufacturing jobs that might be increasing...are those involving high tech or heavy industry such as airplane & car manufacturing, and defense industry related work....but this is a narrow segment of production, that requires high levels of skilled workers

We do not make basic work tools (except craftsman tools); we do not make toys, gadgets, electronic stuff, little if any clothing (except very high end); no textile or shoe industry;...... we make do make some furniture, but much comes from the pacific rim....and the percent that gets made here is but a small fraction of what is being retailed in most commercial outlets.


do you really believe that these jobs and medical school slots, would not be filled if foreigners were not allowed in


sure, when the day comes...when Americans will not mind working as produce pickers, caring for nursing home patients; working as a hotel bell-boy; car wash, etc..........is when you may not have the need for foreigners doing those jobs now(and many such others not listed).

Medical schools?
You may not know it...but the vast majority of US med students do NOT enter into the field of PRIMARY care...when they are finished....nearly all, go into high end specialties; therefore creating a VOID in basic care fields such as: Pediatrics, psychiatry, Family medicine, (which, Btw, are the LOWEST paying fields in medicine ).

This VOID has changed little...regardless of how many new Med schools have been opened up in the US.

Why?...you might ask!
That is because, HERE IN THE USA......(read my lips) you CANNOT force anybody to do a job or work in a field that he/she does not wish to do...no matter what the incentives!


limits that work to our advantage,


the limits that work to our advantage...are largely what we have now!
Duuuh...Ever wonder why you are not paying THRU the nose...when you buy salad, fruits & veggies at your grocery store?
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 4105
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/18/2017 6:58:41 PM

Exclusive: US government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman

Washington (CNN)US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN, an extraordinary step involving a high-ranking campaign official now at the center of the Russia meddling probe.

The government snooping continued into early this year, including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump.
....
A secret order authorized by the court that handles the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) began after Manafort became the subject of an FBI investigation that began in 2014. It centered on work done by a group of Washington consulting firms for Ukraine's former ruling party, the sources told CNN.

The surveillance was discontinued at some point last year for lack of evidence, according to one of the sources.

The FBI then restarted the surveillance after obtaining a new FISA warrant that extended at least into early this year.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html


And on a... TWICE granted FISA warrant... no less...
 N2U16
Joined: 9/25/2016
Msg: 4106
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/18/2017 9:22:58 PM
Yet again, President Trump was Correct about “wiretapping” and Fake News….is Fake News


https://twitter.com/CernoCreatives/status/909969788700635137
Scott Adams talking and laughing about President Trumps golf tweet with HRC is Hilarious lol

Contagious Laughter!
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 4107
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/19/2017 12:01:26 AM
So Chump is right that a man he hired was TWICE convicted by a court of being worthy of being wiretapped...and that's a good thing that Chump was right?

oh well, take the victories where ya can.
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 4108
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/19/2017 4:54:38 AM

Yet again, President Trump was Correct about “wiretapping”


I knew one of the "stupid fvcks" would try to declare... "Trump was right"... except he wasn't...

Trump's tweet very clearly declared "my wires" were tapped... but they weren't... Trump wasn't tapped... Manafort was... and not necessarily in Trump Tower...

But even if he was tapped there as well... it still wasn't Trump... and the phone lines don't belong to Trump... they belong to the phone company...

Ergo... "my wires"... were never tapped... as he declared... which means... he STILL lied...


At the totally desperate sTrumpets...
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 4109
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/19/2017 5:00:10 AM

Yet again, President Trump was Correct about “wiretapping”


This does... however... add a whole other dimension to... "obstruction of justice"... with the house-clearing at Justice... the firing of Comey... and Trump's anger at Session's recusal...

All people involved in the Manafort investigation... almost all people fired or forced out by Trump...

Yep... a whole new dimension...

 cobster11030
Joined: 7/2/2017
Msg: 4110
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/19/2017 1:15:27 PM
So "anger" at somebody over his recusal is obstruction of justice?? That's funny.

You are right, President Trump should not have fired Comey. Obama should of been the one who fired him.
Obama was part of the game though...they were using government agencies to spy on with hopes of destroying a political candidate of an opposing party.
Don't think the Clinton's didn't know what was going on either.

They had all this going in their favor, and they still couldn't beat President Trump.
Pretty sad.
 BigBadNIrish
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 4111
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/19/2017 1:18:07 PM
Bawahahahahahahahaha...how fvcking stupid are the people in the tRump administration (and its' fans):


Trump Administration Rejects Study Showing Positive Impact of Refugees
By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS and SOMINI SENGUPTASEPT. 18, 2017


WASHINGTON — Trump administration officials, under pressure from the White House to provide a rationale for reducing the number of refugees allowed into the United States next year, rejected a study by the Department of Health and Human Services that found that refugees brought in $63 billion more in government revenues over the past decade than they cost.

The draft report, which was obtained by The New York Times, contradicts a central argument made by advocates of deep cuts in refugee totals as President Trump faces an Oct. 1 deadline to decide on an allowable number. The issue has sparked intense debate within his administration as opponents of the program, led by Mr. Trump’s chief policy adviser, Stephen Miller, assert that continuing to welcome refugees is too costly and raises concerns about terrorism.

Advocates of the program inside and outside the administration say refugees are a major benefit to the United States, paying more in taxes than they consume in public benefits, and filling jobs in service industries that others will not. But research documenting their fiscal upside — prepared for a report mandated by Mr. Trump in a March presidential memorandum implementing his travel ban — never made its way to the White House. Some of those proponents believe the report was suppressed.

The internal study, which was completed in late July but never publicly released, found that refugees “contributed an estimated $269.1 billion in revenues to all levels of government” between 2005 and 2014 through the payment of federal, state and local taxes. “Overall, this report estimated that the net fiscal impact of refugees was positive over the 10-year period, at $63 billion.”

But White House officials said those conclusions were illegitimate and politically motivated, and were disproved by the final report issued by the agency, which asserts that the per-capita cost of a refugee is higher than that of an American....

The three-page report the agency ultimately submitted, dated Sept. 5, does just that, using government data to compare the costs of refugees to Americans and making no mention of revenues contributed by refugees.

“In an average year over the 10-year period, per-capita refugee costs for major H.H.S. programs totaled $3,300,” it says. “Per-person costs for the U.S. population were lower, at $2,500, reflecting a greater participation of refugees in H.H.S. programs, especially during their first four years” in the United States.

It was not clear who in the administration decided to keep the information out of the final report. An internal email, dated Sept. 5 and sent among officials from government agencies involved in refugee issues, said that “senior leadership is questioning the assumptions used to produce the report.” A separate email said that Mr. Miller had requested a meeting to discuss the report. The Times was shown the emails on condition that the sender not be identified. Mr. Miller personally intervened in the discussions on the refugee cap to ensure that only the costs — not any fiscal benefit — of the program were considered, according to two people familiar with the talks.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 4112
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/19/2017 1:33:55 PM
and Mexico ain't the only one with an earthquake:

"President Donald Trump's pick for US ambassador to Russia, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, told lawmakers Tuesday that there is "no question Russia interfered in the US election last summer."

Appearing in his nomination hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations committee, Huntsman said the interference in the election has directly led to the low level of trust between Moscow and Washington.
The US government publicly announced in October that it was "confident" Russia orchestrated the hacking of the Democratic National Committee in the lead-up to the election."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/huntsman-no-question-russia-interfered-in-us-election/ar-AAse6Lr?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

Golly, the Dems were right! More accurate than Chump's claim.

huh, so immigrants added $63 Billion to America. Boy, we should stop that and thus MAGA.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 4113
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/19/2017 1:50:25 PM

President Donald Trump's pick for US ambassador to Russia, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, told lawmakers Tuesday that there is "no question Russia interfered in the US election last summer."

Appearing in his nomination hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations committee, Huntsman said the interference in the election has directly led to the low level of trust between Moscow and Washington.


Wouldn't it just have been simpler for Huntsman to say, "I don't want the job"?? lol
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 4114
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/19/2017 7:19:30 PM
"Wouldn't it just have been simpler for Huntsman to say, "I don't want the job"?? lol"

Well Shame, you epitomize the liberals and their "we could care less if someone says something we agree with if they are not of our party". You could care less about unity or the definition of it. You and your "lol" speaks volumes....YIKES!!!
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 4115
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/19/2017 7:36:36 PM
^^^mannn, what they keep saying about you here is readily apparent by the above. Thick as a brick.
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 4116
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/19/2017 7:49:24 PM
"mann" ????????^^^^^^^^ Shame, you are a piece of work....YIKES!!! I understand why you can't reply to the post, it won't sound good for ya...YIKES!!!
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 4117
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/20/2017 6:27:07 AM
Just when you thought you heard it all!

Get a load of this

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-using-campaign-rnc-funds-to-pay-legal-bills-from-russia-probe-sources/ar-AAsenx7?li=BBnb7Kz

The GOP is giving "donated" money to Trump to pay legal fees in the Russia probe!!!........................LOL

The GOP should have a new MOTTO

"Won't you be a SAP......and send some money ASAP....to kindly help a (corrupt) Billionaire pay his legal fees"

 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 4118
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/20/2017 7:30:59 AM
Chump did a record-poor job at raising money for the GOP at the beginning, claiming he wouldn't need it as a self-funding campaign. Now the GOP will ship "good money after bad", hoping to dig themselves out of this hole. Guess future candidates may not have a "war chest" to run on, oh what a pity :)

I think the GOP should stick to its old motto:

trust us with your money, we're fiscally responsible, can't you see?
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 4119
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/20/2017 2:06:04 PM
oh, and now there's a tax bill to screw small companies:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/small-business/6-small-business-bombshells-in-trumps-tax-plan/ar-AAsgK51?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

that should help out the economy, which everyone tells us the small business has a big part in.
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 4120
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/20/2017 2:42:23 PM

"mann" ????????^^^^^^^^


Ummm... no...

She posted

^^^mannn

See the difference...? No...? well... you would if you were even a tiny bit less the pathetic stupid fvck...
 from site to sight
Joined: 11/30/2007
Msg: 4121
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/20/2017 4:52:54 PM

The GOP is giving "donated" money to Trump to pay legal fees in the Russia probe!!!........................LOL


That's a laugh: Giving money for legal fees to the guy who said he would pay the legal fees if his goon supporters got arrested for beating up protesters at his rally. I can hardly wait for the amount Trump asks for, to get hurricane relief aid to fix up Mar-a-Lago.
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 4122
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/21/2017 5:04:02 AM
mung, those spiders behind your ears, are they pets??? YIKES!!!!I see your eighth grade education is working hard!!!
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 4123
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/21/2017 6:13:14 AM
Trump to African leaders

"many of my 'friends' are going over to Africa to GET RICH"

which is what the white man has been doing in Africa since the 1500's....hey, but why stop now, when you can easily rip off pple in desparate situations
 MizPurl
Joined: 6/11/2016
Msg: 4124
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/21/2017 6:18:38 AM
^^^Out of the mouth of Mr. Stupid.......what a bozo.
His speech even had the new guy hired to babysit him....groaning and sitting with his head in his hands.
But Trump walked away...thinking he was great!
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 4125
Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 9/21/2017 7:03:19 AM
and now the GOP repeal of Obamacare, rushed past the CBO, wants to give block money to the states to do with what they wish....in other words...slush funds open to potential abuse, no rules on how they should be spent.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-latest-obamacare-repeal-bill-is-modeled-after-welfare-reform-that-was-a-failure/ar-AAsgSgZ?ocid=spartandhp

how is that fiscally responsible, again?

Meanwhile, a funny article on how Big Business runs things so well....Henry Ford's push to grow soybeans in order to sell tractors, may have been a stepping stone to antibiotics in our food supply:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/blame-henry-ford-for-deadly-superbugs/ar-AAsfekg?ocid=spartandhp
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