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 vlad dracul
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Aye i was reading about that daft bint the other day. I'm sure many intolerant illiberal liberals will 'feel her pain' and throw her comments into the orwellian memory hole. Just like they have forgotten bill clinton using his position to abuse impressionable young lassies.

Intolerant illiberal liberals wail about race a lot. Well SELECTIVELY.............

"And then there’s this simple expression of the pleasure that comes with hatred: “oh man it’s kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men.” I love that completely meretricious “old” to demean them still further. And that actual feeling: joy at cruelty!"
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/sarah-jeong-new-york-times-anti-white-racism.html

Memory hole time for those intolerant illiberal liberal champions who deplore racism in ALL forms. Except for......

Welcome to tonight's 'celebrity liberal' quiz The Memory Hole where contestants have to guess Is It True? Is It Alt Right Fake News? Or Is It Down The Memory Hole.

Here's your host Vlad Dracul. So VD what's tonight's awkward question that contestants have to avoid?

"Bill Clinton presided over the largest increase in federal and state prison inmates of any president in American history. Clinton did not declare the War on Crime or the War on Drugs but he escalated it beyond what many conservatives had imagined possible.

He supported the 100-to-1 sentencing disparity for crack versus powder cocaine, which produced staggering racial injustice in sentencing and boosted funding for drug-law enforcement.

Clinton championed the idea of a federal “three strikes” law in his 1994 State of the Union address and, months later, signed a $30 billion crime bill that created dozens of new federal capital crimes, mandated life sentences for some three-time offenders, and authorized more than $16 billion for state prison grants and the expansion of police forces.

The legislation was hailed by mainstream-media outlets as a victory for the Democrats, who “were able to wrest the crime issue from the Republicans and make it their own.”

When Clinton left office in 2001, the United States had the highest rate of incarceration in the world.

Human Rights Watch reported that in seven states, African Americans constituted 80 to 90 percent of all drug offenders sent to prison, even though they were no more likely than whites to use or sell illegal drugs.

Prison admissions for drug offenses reached a level in 2000 for African Americans more than 26 times the level in 1983. All of the presidents since 1980 have contributed to mass incarceration, but as Equal Justice Initiative founder Bryan Stevenson recently observed, “President Clinton’s tenure was the worst.”

https://www.thenation.com/article/hillary-clinton-does-not-deserve-black-peoples-votes/

What's NOT to like about those crazy clintons eh?.............

"The Left’s Border Conflict

I loved this little nugget from an interview Vox’s Ezra Klein had with Bernie Sanders in 2015, which has been recirculating recently on Twitter.

Ezra Klein:
You said being a democratic socialist means a more international view. I think if you take global poverty that seriously, it leads you to conclusions that in the US are considered out of political bounds. Things like sharply raising the level of immigration we permit, even up to a level of open borders. About sharply increasing …

Bernie Sanders:
Open borders? No, that’s a Koch brothers proposal.

Ezra Klein:
Really?

Bernie Sanders:
Of course. That’s a right-wing proposal, which says essentially there is no United States. …

Ezra Klein:
But it would make …

Bernie Sanders:
Excuse me …

Ezra Klein:
It would make a lot of global poor richer, wouldn’t it?

Bernie Sanders:
It would make everybody in America poorer — you’re doing away with the concept of a nation state, and I don’t think there’s any country in the world that believes in that.


Sanders has never had a problem with the nation-state; it is, after all, the foundation for any functioning democracy, and a democratic politician will always put the citizens of his country first.

His ideal left-liberal countries — the Nordic ones — are strong nation-states with, until very recently, homogeneous populations.

But Ezra really does seem to have an issue — philosophically and morally — with the nation-state. Social justice doesn’t end at the border, after all.

And if the goal of the left is universal equality, on what grounds does it not extend to everyone on the planet? Which is to say: why do we have borders at all? Why do we draw any distinction between the citizen and the noncitizen

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/sarah-jeong-new-york-times-anti-white-racism.html

Oh dear. It looks like the russians have got to bernie.

And the interview the above is taken from.........

https://www.vox.com/2015/7/28/9014491/bernie-sanders-vox-conversation
 woobytoodsday
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Posted: 8/7/2018 3:19:53 PM
FBI apparently concluded the driver hadn’t revealed anything of substance.

“They interviewed him, and Dianne forced him to retire, and that was the end of it,” says our source.



https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Sen-Feinstein-had-a-Chinese-connection-she-13121441.phpThe
 daynadaze
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Posted: 8/7/2018 7:38:13 PM
Oh vlad LOL. Give it up, Who do you think you are fooling?
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 8/7/2018 8:45:40 PM
Vlad, you're so funny! Thanks for being a good host☺

Too bad mustang isn't here for a round of lets play deflection. He was fine with the TX congresswoman calling the left to harass Trump admin, so I'm sure he would be okay with racism and Chinese spies. I've already told him he should hate himself according to his party.

Very interesting about Clinton. He created 3 strikes, you get jailed, which went hand in hand with more prisons opening. Perfect scenario to sell out his black friends and create new housing (prison) for them☺ When are black folks gonna learn to stop voting democrat?

Bernie, saying the right wants open borders, and how bad that would be for the US. Look at Bernie, complaining about obamacare: Despite the modest gains of the Affordable Care Act we have 35 million people who still have no health insurance, and, more importantly, millions more are underinsured with high copayments and high deductibles.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 8/8/2018 2:54:36 AM
Dayna
"Oh vlad LOL. Give it up, Who do you think you are fooling?"

Aw c'mon Dayna. There's nowt on the forums now of much interest.

So many good posters have been nuked.

But a wee bit of liberal baiting at least we are all not talking to ourselves.

But there were questions I posed because I only know wee bits about the political system in america.

But although I pose awkward questions I'm interested in your system.

That electoral college thing is baffling.

The presidential election (which was massively covered by our lying press) seemed to go on for years.

But anyway missus 6 million voters who voted for Obama deserted Clinton to vote for trump.

Any views on how that happened?

Oh and I know you like your telly and enjoyed broadchurch.

Well two uk dramas to look out for are Three Girls and Happy Valley. (I told new yorker about Happy Valley and she said it was boss.



Three Girls is a three-part British television drama series, written by screenwriter Nicole Taylor, and directed by Philippa Lowthorpe, that broadcast on three consecutive nights between 16 and 18 May 2017 on BBC One.[1

The series is a dramatised version of the events surrounding the Rochdale child sex abuse ring, and describes how the authorities failed to investigate allegations of rapebecause the victims were perceived as unreliable witnesses.[2] 

The story is told from the viewpoint of three of the victims:

fourteen-year-old Holly Winshaw (Molly Windsor),

sixteen-year-old Amber Bowen (Ria Zmitrowicz) and her younger sister Ruby (Liv Hill);

although the focus later shifts to sexual health worker Sara Rowbotham (Maxine Peake), who became the main whistleblower who drew attention to the case after repeated pleas for help from social services and the police fell on deaf ears.

The abused bairns helped the script writers. This is the case that blew open the abuse, torture, rape, murder, humiliation and everything in between.

Around 5/6 thousand bairns were abandoned by the police, social services and local politicians.

Happy Valley is not much cheerier but the story line and acting is superb.

There are two series of Happy Valley.

Peace and Love from Edinburgh
 from site to sight
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Posted: 8/8/2018 6:35:20 AM

NY58: When are black folks gonna learn to stop voting democrat?


When the Republicans get a candidate who doesn't call them SOB's and say they should all be fired if they kneel, without expressing any interest to look into their concerns, and coming up with a solution that's acceptable to both sides.
 Sandbyday
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Posted: 8/8/2018 11:22:19 AM
Wow, it looks as though the Russians were out in full force yesterday in and around American voting booths.
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Posted: 8/9/2018 7:15:39 AM
At a rally in Tampa, Fla., Trump said, "If you go out and you want to buy groceries, you need a picture on a card. You need ID."

Which begs the question: When was the last time Trump went grocery shopping? Probably never. And yet, the Trump worshipers believe he represents the average person-the little guy.
 SS4544Spd
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Posted: 8/9/2018 9:10:11 AM
LGL1975 wrote:
The democrats need to extend their left flank and offer their voters a better deal. The average Trump supporter will go for that. If you give them a choice between a wall in the desert and the chance to go to college or just get paid a living wage that gives them a little bit of dignity then they will vote for dignity.
Not so sure about that. Didn't Bernie Sanders offer free college or something like that? Or at least he talked about it more than any other candidate in '16. Of course he was kiboshed unfairly by the corporate limosine liberals.

And the far left doesn't have nearly the funding sources that the far right does. Thus the far left in the U.S. flounders in a political/election system based on money. Money buys messaging, foot soldiers, and organizational expertise. All key in modern elections/winning hearts and minds.

I'm going 3rd party all the way, no matter it may favor Trump/etc. in the next few elections. Corporate Dems need to be spanked.
 SS4544Spd
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Posted: 8/9/2018 9:45:28 AM
NY58 wrote:
Bernie, saying the right wants open borders, and how bad that would be for the US.
I'm not sure many on either side really wants "open borders," really. It's just a club to beat a pro-immigration supporter over the head. But I will say that elements of both sides want increases in immigration. Which goes back to the frustration from many of us with both established parties. Cuz besides the various arguments of pro-immigration forces have ...mainly altruism and diversity...the ulterior reason for increased immigration, i.e. "open borders" is economic. Economic as in cheap labor...economic as in more highly incentivized workers and thinkers, and economic as in faster population growth, which theoretically means more consumers. And for these various ECONOMIC reasons, large elements in BOTH parties want increased immigration. Because lurking under the surface of these elements in BOTH parties is big business's campaign contribution$$. Altruisim, diversity, and the other "warm and fuzzy" reasons are a cover to sell to the general public.
THAT'S the frustration among many voters, particularly those who may see themselves in direct competition for jobs to new immigrants.


Look at Bernie, complaining about obamacare: Despite the modest gains of the Affordable Care Act we have 35 million people who still have no health insurance, and, more importantly, millions more are underinsured with high copayments and high deductibles.
Sure he's complaining it's not good enough, but it's not. WHile you agree with his complaining about it, I doubt you would agree with his solutions. But one thing is for sure, the right's solution, more business involvement, more deregulation, is NOT the anwer..after all, look at what private healthcare has given us in the U.S....the highest (by far) per-capita healthcare costs in the world. Even before the dreaded Obamacare. That is the basis for Sanders' complaints.

Mercy, I promised I'd stay away from here.....
 woobytoodsday
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Posted: 8/9/2018 2:19:52 PM
WASHINGTON — A federal appeals court ruled Thursday that the Trump administration endangered public health by keeping the widely used pesticide chlorpyrifos on the market despite extensive scientific evidence that even tiny levels of exposure can harm babies' brains.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to remove chlorpyrifos from sale in the United States within 60 days.

A coalition of farmworkers and environmental groups sued last year after then-EPA chief Scott Pruitt reversed an Obama-era effort to ban chlorpyrifos, which is widely sprayed on citrus fruits, apples and other crops. The attorneys general for several states joined the case against EPA, including California, New York and Massachusetts.

In a split decision, the court said Thursday that Pruitt, a Republican forced to resign earlier this summer amid ethics scandals, violated federal law by ignoring the conclusions of agency scientists that chlorpyrifos is harmful.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/court-orders-ban-harmful-pesticide-says-epa-violated-law-n899331?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma
 woobytoodsday
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Posted: 8/9/2018 5:05:06 PM
Unfortunately, it’s hard not to see this as a watershed. Republicans have not only ceded ground to the President, they have done so at profound cost to the norms of liberal constitutional democracy. Power ceded is difficult to get back; moral authority squandered is often lost forever. (See: the acceptance of presidential lies, embrace of incivility and indifference to sexual misconduct.)


http://time.com/5351087/republicans-donald-trump-values/
 2plunk
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Posted: 8/9/2018 5:40:55 PM
Hey vlad dracul

I agree !
That electoral college thing is baffling.
Being a canuck I agree—I think it’s proportional representation, in that, it’s an electorate backing a state Senator of which there are only 2 from each state ?
Perhaps a clarification from someone below the 49th.
 427cammer
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Posted: 8/10/2018 12:20:18 AM
2plunk:

Hey vlad dracul

I agree !
That electoral college thing is baffling.

Since I started using these forums ten years ago I've begun to pay a lot more attention to the nuts and bolts of US politics. I think I've got it somewhat figured out but I'm certainly no expert.

The electoral college system that the US uses probably guarantees a better representative government than Canada's own parliamentary system. If you ignore the fact that in the US people are not actually casting their votes for the President... they're actually voting for delegates who are entrusted to represent the person they voted for... the US system is simpler than our own, I think.

Each state has a set number of electoral votes which are determined somewhat proportionally based on that state's population... populous states like California and Texas will have a lot more votes than Montana or Vermont. From what I have gathered, in almost all of the fifty states the winner takes all. This seems to be the main point of contention among people... California (the largest state by population) may vote 75% for the Democratic candidate (and the dem candidate gets all of the electoral votes), while Florida may vote 50.5% for the Republican candidate (and the GOP gets all of the votes).... this is how a Presidential candidate can win the popular vote and still lose the election.

^^^^.... and after saying all that, I still think their system is more representative than our own.
 NewYorker58
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SS45, welcome back to the thread where everyone gets deleted☺

When you look back at speeches both clintons made, and obama, they all said we have to secure our border against illegal aliens. Like everything else, its only a problem if Trump says it. It's part of their harassment movement. I pay them no mind.

Bernie had no proposed way to find his list of freebies.
 dragonbytes
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Posted: 8/10/2018 7:36:24 AM

Bernie had no proposed way to find his list of freebies.


How did Trump fund his tax cuts? Now it's the space force to fight all those potential aliens that want to immigrate to the USA?

Do it the Trump / Republican way, deficit spending.
 dragonbytes
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Posted: 8/10/2018 7:37:54 AM
Trumps is like the Judas goat, he is draining the swamp big time.

In stockyards, a Judas goat will lead sheep to slaughter, while its own life is spared.
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Posted: 8/10/2018 8:08:55 AM
"Now it's the space force to fight all those potential aliens that want to immigrate to the USA?"

I suppose Trump would want to have a presidential space craft-Space Force One-complete with a $24 million dollar refrigerator like he had put in Air Force One. What catalog did he look at, that has $24 million dollar refrigerators listed in it?

Doesn't the U.S. already have military equipment in outer space-spy satellites? The spy satellites are tracking the military of every country in the world, so why would Trump want to have space soldiers as well? Does Trump think China or Russia or ISIS might send up rocket ships into outer space to have a good old fashion dog fight like in sci-fi movies? Will the U.S. fighter spacecrafts have a picture of Snoopy piloting a WW1 plane painted on them?
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Posted: 8/10/2018 12:24:31 PM

New York Times hires an anti-white racist for their editorial section. Sarah Jeong.
#cancelwhitepeople


The radical left's hatred of white people is very similar to far right ideologies that believe in a Jewish conspiracy. I regard both as controlled opposition. Deflecting attention away from the basic dilemma of capitalism. That power can be bought. And attaching blame to a scapegoat.

It is inevitable that the accumulation of wealth and power by the very few creates resentment from others who find themselves excluded from any meaningful participation. And it is the task of the media to control this opposition.

The modern left has been taught that all the inequality and injustice under capitalism is the fault of white people. Specifically poor whites who have no wealth or education and are by definition excluded from positions of power and influence.

To reinforce this idiotic and criminal narrative requires a bogeyman. Trump didn't need racism to win the election. He needs racists to take the blame for his corporate agenda.
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Posted: 8/11/2018 5:30:38 AM
"When you look back at speeches both clintons made, and obama, they all said we have to secure our border against illegal aliens. Like everything else, its only a problem if Trump says it. It's part of their harassment movement. I pay them no mind."

you're missing something important, that the clintons/obama are well aware of, trump "means" it!

you are going through the same thing as brits went through with jimmy savile, so many couldn't, wouldn't believe the stories until there were just too many proven, to be able to deny them.

i wonder how many on the left have bothered to read up on the cia/fbi/doj collaboration with the mafia (which come in many flavours) drug/people trafficking, money laundering, excecutions, false flags?

covert bio weapons/drug testing on your own people, the uk done much the same using the military and maybe still do.

grant chaps sadly got it pretty right about the peasant priorities, could have included celeb worship but not 50 shades as i don't think that was published yet :-)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/grant-shapps-bingo-and-beer-joke-causes-twitter-storm
 flatoo
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Posted: 8/11/2018 9:17:25 AM
^^^^trump created a problem that never existed...also claims we need a worthless wall. There has always been border security. Trump just plays to his brainless base....any with knowledge and critical thinking ability know it.
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Posted: 8/11/2018 9:38:12 AM
Another swamp creature led to the slaughter, NY GOP Congressman, one of President Donald Trump's earliest backers in Congress, suspended his campaign on Saturday chris collins indicted on insider trading.

Congrats to Trump on highlighting all the swamp creatures, another one bites the dust.
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Posted: 8/11/2018 10:04:34 AM
What's your point, politicians do bad things? That's not exactly breaking news☺

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton
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Posted: 8/11/2018 10:29:29 AM
The point is trump cabinet appointments, advisers and key supporters are the worst the swamp has to offer led by one of the most corrupt presidents in history. ...regards..ata :-)
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Posted: 8/12/2018 3:40:05 AM

What's your point, politicians do bad things? That's not exactly breaking news


What U.S. president has spent as much time publicly insulting anyone and everyone as he has running the country?
Trump only runs the country in his spare time, in between rallies and countless tweeting where the theme is promoting his hatred of minority groups and specific people. How is a Trump rally any different than a KKK rally, where they remind people who to hate?

I would think there have been presidents before who had racist views, but they knew enough to keep their racism under wraps to avoid public criticism-in contrast to Trump, who openly displays his racist views. And anyone who publicly says they disagree with Trump's white supremacist policy is in for a Trump Twitter war, and bolstered by making sure the perpetrator gets a verbal tongue lashing at rallies, along with Trump's constant and childish name calling. What president in the past relied so heavily on childish name calling? Trump needs to grow up and act like an adult for a change.
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