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 _Batmån
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Biden spoke at McCain's memorial. He talked about himself a lot, awards he received, lol. Sticking it to McCain in death. Msg: 7241

Your interpretation is severely flawed. For one thing, Biden spoke of awards that they both received together.

Excerpts from Joe Biden's speech at the John McCain Memorial
You know, John and I were both amused and I think Lindsey was at one of these events where John and I received two prestigious awards where the last year I was vice president and one immediately after, for our dignity and respect we showed to one another, we received an award for civility in public life. Allegheny College puts out this award every year for bipartisanship. John and I looked at each and said, "What the hell is going on here?" No, not a joke. I said to Senator Flake, that's how it's supposed to be. We get an award? I’m serious. Think about this. Getting an award for your civility. Getting an award for bipartisanship. Classic John, Allegheny College, hundreds of people, got the award and the Senate was in session. He spoke first and, as he walked off the stage and I walked on, he said, Joe, don't take it personally, but I don't want to hear what the hell you have to say, and left.

Character is destiny. John had character. While others will miss his leadership, passion, even his stubbornness, you are going to miss that hand on your shoulder. Family, you are going to miss the man, faithful man as he was, who you knew would literally give his life for you. And for that there's no balm but time. Time and your memories of a life lived well and lived fully.

Now John is going to take his rightful place in a long line of extraordinary leaders in this nation's history. Who in their time and in their way stood for freedom and stood for liberty and have made the American story the most improbable and most hopeful and most enduring story on earth. I know John said he hoped he played a small part in that story. John, you did much more than that, my friend. To paraphrase Shakespeare: we shall not see his like again.

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a22877209/joe-biden-eulogy-john-mccain-memorial-full-transcript/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfjYggdO8q4

Godspeed John McCain.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 8/30/2018 5:04:06 PM
I heard the speech in real time. Biden did talk about himself a lot, excerpt from what you posted:

"John and I received two prestigious awards where the last year I was vice president and one immediately after, for our dignity and respect we showed to one another, we received an award for civility in public life."

I thought this was funny, "He spoke first and, as he walked off the stage and I walked on, he said, Joe, don't take it personally, but I don't want to hear what the hell you have to say, and left."

McCain's mother is 106 years old!
 Strawberry_Jello
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Posted: 8/30/2018 6:01:35 PM
Calling him a traitor for casting a vote is ridiculous, and extreme. That kind of extremism is what's preventing productive discussion.


Okay.. The man is dead. BUT.. I do not blame president Trump for whatever he said about that man because McCain was a traitor to his party a traitor to the american people for voting NO. To obama "hellcare" reform.! He should have worked towards helping his party not against it.! May his soul RIP but I doubt it because he hurt many people with his action not just his party
 SS4544Spd
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Posted: 8/30/2018 8:20:06 PM
plftre wrote:
You miss the point SS4544...even if we assume the system of trade is geared for business.....well just who engages in Global Trade other than big business?
I don't think I miss any point. My problem is the jobs that are being lost with the "finely tuned" global trade system are disproportionately jobs done by blue collar/rural people. I mean, what's so "finely tuned" about China having a 25% tariff on autos and the U.S. having a 3% tariff? Do you think that's fair?

And what people need to understand is blue collar/rural people are the losers on all these trade deals because of the relative unfair policies vs. developing countries on manufactured goods. Manufacturing, Agriculture, and Mining are disproportionately important to blue collar/rural people. It is always easy to champion a cause that puts the kibosh on *someone else's* job.

That's why they don't like the trade deals, nor do they like all encompassing global clean air pacts, because it hurts fossil fuel/mining. Both hurt blue collar/rural industries that provide jobs. And add massive illegal immigration to take the jobs in the one growth area, big ag, and food processing, and this becomes another of their "hot button" issue with them that Trump is taking on. It is not rocket science to see how he is popular with them.

And before you hate on me, note I did NOT vote for Trump. I think he's repugnant. I am simply trying to explain the rationale for his base. And yes, I will admit there is some racism, but I still maintain this is less weight than the jobs/economic issues.


There is nothing that Trump is doing that is going to help fly over America....or the little guy
See the above. Keep in mind that Trump doesn't really even need to be ultimately successful at these things. Because they see him working towards these means, making a lot of noise, a lot of press, and that is more than what they feel they can get from a Democrat.

I know you don't want to hear it, but there is a somewhat rational basis - admittedly a bit unrealistic - for Trump's support.

But we should all be worried that blue collar/rural are being left behind and will continue to be, no matter what, due to globalization. They will be a force to contend with, electorally, til the BBDO (Big Bubba Die Off) occurs.
 Sandbyday
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Posted: 8/30/2018 11:30:18 PM
It will be refreshing when Trump leaves office in 2025






because that's when Mueller will begin to wrap up his investigation.
 HawkingJr
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Posted: 8/31/2018 2:50:34 PM
Yeah, I don't know how much I believe this poll, taken almost immediately after Florida's primary and sanctioned by Democrats, but nevertheless, this is FAR better than I could have imagined for the first black governor nominee in the state in almost any half-legitimate poll:

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/andrew-gillum-ron-desantis-florida-governors-race/2018/08/30/id/879549/

48 percent of the voters said they would choose Gillum, while 43 percent would vote for DeSantis.
45 percent gave Gillum a favorable rating, while 41 percent said the same for DeSantis.
59 percent of independents said they would vote for Gillum, while 25 percent said they would vote for DeSantis.

God only knows what the results would be if it was Graham (a well-known person) vs. DeSantis, though maybe being unknown to many is actually helping Gillum, because right now I imagine a lot of people answering these polls are like "you say DeSantis is Trump's man? Then I'm definitely voting for the other guy, no matter who he is!" We'll see how long that remains true once they start finding out about Gillum's Tallahassee mayor issues... or for that matter, that he's black!
 woobytoodsday
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Posted: 8/31/2018 4:56:25 PM
Morning Joe

Trump disapproval at 60 percent in new ABC News/WaPo poll

Watch: https://on.msnbc.com/2LHLGZ1
 Sandbyday
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Posted: 8/31/2018 5:07:57 PM
I don’t follow other states got enough to go with the n my own. And so I’m not quite following your post because # 3 I’m on the last day of a two month vacation and a couple margaritas deep. Just curious though. Is that your criteria? I mean to vote for anyone who’s black? I probably misunderstood because of the afore mentioned and of course in the case that they were some kinda evil entity like a republican.

I should mention, my margaritas are three shots each.
And I’m m in Waikiki.
 HawkingJr
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Posted: 9/1/2018 6:08:25 AM
I assume Sandy's last post was aimed at me. Just to be clear: I would vote for small pox before I'd vote for anybody closely affiliated with Trump like DeSantis (who, again, is not merely closely affiliated with Trump but Trump's actual Frankenstein monster, because without Trump's help, DeSantis wouldn't exist). Race has got nothing to do with it. That said, I didn't even vote for Gillum in the primary... mostly because I am actually a registered independent and cannot vote in either the Democratic or Republican primary.

But if I could have voted in the Democratic primary, I would have voted for Graham, because I'm just all about the GOP nominee losing and all polls indicated she had the best chance of winning the general election, plus although I'm about as progressive as it gets socially, I'm a fiscal moderate (used to say "conservative" but fiscal conservatism does not mean what it used to anymore) and believe Gillum's fiscal policies are too close to pure socialism -- some socialism is pretty much necessary in any decent economic system, but jumping from $8.25 an hour to $15 an hour minimum wage in a short period of time would wreck the current stable economy, and although the minimum definitely needs to be raised (especially nationally -- Florida raises its every year by a few pennies, but nationally it hasn't been raise in a long time), Gillum (and his mentor Sanders) want way too much. But I'm not worried in the least about him implementing that pipe dream, because that's a legislative matter (and some would say constitutional since it is the result of a Florida amendment), and although it's quite possible Florida's legislature flips this election for the first time in decades, it won't be by enough to get a $15 minimum passed.

I do think it would be cool to have a black governor, considering Florida's never had one and there have only been 2 elected governor in the history of the country (there have been 3 others that succeeded to the governorship) -- and Florida is technically a southern state, so that would be yet another middle finger at the Confederacy's grip on the region. But I can guarantee you I would never vote for any candidate just because he's black. For example, there's zero chance I'd cast a vote for Ben Carson, Herman Cain, Sheriff Clarke, Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams, no matter what their theoretical opponents' race. Borderline call: Senator Tim Scott, who occasionally acts sane despite being a Republican from a Southern state. Still, there's an extremely high probability I would vote for the "white guy" over him if I lived in South Carolina.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 9/1/2018 8:34:24 AM
Why did McCain not invite Palin to his memorial? He invited democrats which forced them to speak somewhat kindly of him. That was a good parting joke.
 Seahorse_Jockey
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Posted: 9/1/2018 9:05:31 AM
^^Maybe she couldn't make it for whatever reason. Does it matter who was or wasn't invited? McCain is not running for office, so I don't think he's worried about his image.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 9/1/2018 9:21:14 AM
I said.....she wasn't invited. McCain orchestrated his memorial. Oh, that's right, you're an uninformed, but still feel the need to comment, Canadian.

 Rumours
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Posted: 9/1/2018 9:37:38 AM
I didn't know...That people have to be invited to a funeral in the States?
So....all those people standing on the roadside and inside the memorial service were invited?
Being a public figure...He chose who he wanted to speak...they could have declined.
And who really cares...besides the nitpickers and nutbars/haters?

I am sure she could have attended if she wanted....she probably wasn't asked to speak....thank god...lol.
All we know for sure....Is he didn't want Trump there.

Fake news for the rights to regurgitate on.
NY....can't comprehend....orchestrating your funeral is the norm with most people.

I have left instructions for NY not to be invited...to mine...
She still may show up.... :/


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Posted: 9/1/2018 10:19:08 AM
"I have come to the conclusion, that a large number of democrat supporters are feminists, so it's not a surprise, that many had a mental breakdown, when Trump got elected, cause he is a white heterosexual man and they hate and fear masculine white men. The feminist ideology has brainwashed so many women and men from thinking rationally and acting productively"
 daynadaze
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Posted: 9/1/2018 11:23:25 AM
I know, let's name all the presidents who weren't white males. LOL. What a ridiculous statement, do you know that hating men, of any skin color, is a totally different thing than being a feminist wanting equal rights. Equal rights is what a big worry for you? Having to treat women, children, transgender, gays, etc., is that your real fear? Man/woman hating is an issue usually needing deep therapy, it's a damage, it has nothing to do with wanting equal rights.
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Posted: 9/1/2018 12:15:32 PM
"You are clearly one of the brainwashed sheep and what about the protests from feminists, when trump got elected? It was on tv and this was when Madonna said she wanted to blow up the white house...clear signs of an unstable mindset of collectivist looney feminists, who hate men and want to rule over men...so don't try your equality BS with me, cause I know much more, than you could ever imagine and your mind is too closed to ever see, what I see!"
 _Batmån
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Posted: 9/1/2018 12:49:22 PM
I know much more, than you could ever imagine and your mind is too closed to ever see, what I see! Msg: 7260

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Posted: 9/1/2018 1:13:29 PM
"I think about the family courts raping men of everything they own, the male suicide rate, men working in the most dangerous jobs in the world, men dying on the battlefields in world war 1 & 2 and all the poor messed up boys, who have been victims of broken homes and have no positive male role models in their lives, but also being told, that they can't be boys at school and forced to hate themselves for being born male, I also think about the laws favouring women across the board and all the money being spend on help for women with domestic violence issues etc, but very little being spend on men, I could go on, but it's clear and obvious, that women in the west have the real control and men are being demonised."
 woobytoodsday
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Posted: 9/1/2018 6:49:11 PM
White males are the most privileged class the world has ever known. You don't imagine women are tired of listening to them whinge about their own testosterone poisoning?

Gosh.
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Posted: 9/1/2018 7:12:54 PM

White males are the most privileged class the world has ever known.


Only if they have money.
 Doremi_Fasolatido
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Posted: 9/1/2018 7:31:54 PM
I am a white male and I don't necessarily feel priveledged. I worked for everything I have.... However, and on the other hand.

I do think our POTUS is not just priveledged… But also lucky and fully backed by V. Putin.

I hope he doesn't last any longer than the public can stomach him. At least, this applies to those who can see him for the lying, anti American, out for himself crybaby he is..... Another 4???? Not if I have a say. Just another obviously biased opinion on my part and no apologies for it in the least..... Thank you.
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Posted: 9/1/2018 7:41:44 PM
There are quite a few white men I consider friends. Also had a white man as a father, a brother, numerous cousins, coworkers, etc. Why they as a class are vilified is beyond me. Kind of sick of hearing about it.
 apriloveswhiteroses
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Posted: 9/1/2018 9:47:03 PM
Simply ...A..M..A..Z..I..N..G..!

https://youtu.be/wcL5WZcI0G8

I don't believe what Fake news poll say, the president rallies speak for themselves.

Trump 2020.:):)
 daynadaze
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Posted: 9/2/2018 1:10:10 AM
Who is vilifing these men for being white? I am as white as they come, as is most of my family, don't give me that poor poor pitiful white man stuff. All that is is fear, as though these guys are losing out because of women and people with different colored skin, what a whiny load of BS.
 LGL1975
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Posted: 9/2/2018 3:57:30 AM

There are quite a few white men I consider friends. Also had a white man as a father, a brother, numerous cousins, coworkers, etc. Why they as a class are vilified is beyond me. Kind of sick of hearing about it.



It gives the left a scapegoat to blame for the corruption and inequality of capitalism.

The ruling class is white and very rich. Attaching blame to white men who are not wealthy protects the rich from criticism.

Since the left does not have the intelligence to attack the 1% (rich white men), they settle for attacking the bottom 10% (poor white men).

It's not that different from ideologies blaming Jews or visible minorities. What they all have in common is they attempt to undermine class consciousness with racial division.
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