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 calliopedreams
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Why so vulgar? Because you can't support the contention he told a "whole lot of lies" last night? Insults are the reply?

What, exactly, have I said that leads you to the conclusion I "support" him?
If you knew for whom I voted, it would take all the fun out of you calling me names and dismissing me as a "Trump supporter," when you can't back up the premise on the earlier post at #8095. That's all I'm asking ... what are the specifics?

Or are you so insulated by being surrounded by your cronies who seem to have no background in logic that you are comfortable piling on to someone who is merely asking for some "proof" to support a statement claiming they "heard ... a whole lot of lies thrown in." I am genuinely curious what you consider "lies."

If you can't support the contention that there were "a whole lot of lies thrown in" last night, no harm, no foul. But, if you cling to this premise in the face of conflicting evidence, and resort to dredging up old news, calling names, and making assumptions about a person's political leanings so that you can dismiss them on the grounds of being unworthy of a response, then that really makes you no better than Trump, does it?

I am a fan of critical thinking, but obviously, that is in short supply around here.

Oh, well. Back to your regularly scheduled programming, here on the insular political "debate" boards of pof.

P.S. You guys are totally BORING, which is a much bigger flaw than being moronic.
 platitude545
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Posted: 1/9/2019 8:25:09 AM
^^^ All you had to do was listen to the news last night as the lies were rattled off....quit playing innocent here...you sound just like the typical Trump supporter who claims that Trump does not lie or who demands evidence of his lies. I've seen Trump supporters who claim he never lies....that its all the fake media who is lying.

Your whole premise is BS and if that means I am being vulgar by pointing it out, so be it. If it walks like a duck...and all of that stuff.

Trump's reasons for a wall are demonstrably false...any attempt to justify that wall is based on demonstrably false reasoning...is that really so hard to understand? Only for Trump supporters who don't care about actual facts and objective evidence.
 Noftheborder
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Posted: 1/9/2019 8:56:10 AM
Oh my, all this indignation firstly stemming from a simple comment intended to convey that the less than usual number of lies was due to, and in direct correlation with, the brevity of the time spent speaking, particularly when scripted rather than the usual off the cuff nonsensical diatribes of longer duration. It doesn't take away from the fact that the premise for the speech in the first place was based on lies that are becoming extremely difficult to backtrack from without admitting said reasons for closing down government operations and not paying people is creating more security risks and financial problems for the country - no matter how the dervish and his cohorts attempt to spin around the lies which have previously been spouted on the matter.
 platitude545
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Posted: 1/9/2019 9:03:29 AM
^^^^ agree. This is all very simple... we have a pathologically lying President driven by massive ego instead of logic or reason. He also has a significant personality disorder and so lacks empathy. The Dems got it right...this is all about Trump having a Temper Tantrum, and it is very dangerous to allow the man to shut down the government just so he can get what he wants from Congress....especially this man. Caliop....is simply full of herself...unable to see the forest through the trees and the damage this fraud of a man is causing to the country. Talk about a lack of critical thinking ability....she represents that lack of ability among Trump supporters.
 LeFouGamboj
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Posted: 1/9/2019 9:12:46 AM
8099............callio writes:


BTW, they rate the claim that the trade agreement will pay for the wall as "dubious" rather than false.BTW, they rate the claim that the trade agreement will pay for the wall as "dubious" rather than false.


Do you know why it is rated "dubious"?............because there isn't enough to demonstrate that it will pay for it for sure.
Thus, just by Trump making an ASSERTION that the new trade agreement will pay for the wall is a LIE!
Why, you ask?...................because it is only a HYPOTHESIS, he does not (and cannot yet)know.....and to assert otherwise is a hoax, mis-information.....which in short is a lie.


Item 2 was not quoted by you correctly. He called it a:
a) humanitarian and security crisis at our southern border,
b) humanitarian crisis. A crisis of the heart, and a crisis of the soul (subjective, and actually, offensive, IMO, considering his previous policies).


Illegal border crossings have been at an all time 45 year low!
So if we have a "humanitarian crisis".....it was the best kept secret in 45 years

The Humanitarian crisis that does INDEED exist...........is of Trumps own making!
By separating children from their families (political hostage taking)...and detaining them........instead of detaining them unseparated, as it was always the case.


I didn't even see him use the word "emergency," let alone a National Emergency, which is what is required to appropriate funds from the Military budget,


In order for him to declare a national emergency....he has to at least have grounds for it..........apart from his propaganda, he has no such basis..............however, if he doesn't need a reason for calling it, then why doesn't he do it?.....that will solve the wall problem..........................or is it that everyone is advising him against it!

That we have a refugee problem is TRUE...........but a threat to national security..... is a LIE
If the killing of several citizens by illegal migrants is a national threat...............then how do you view the killing of innocent citizens by wild eyed right wing gun-nuts, which now occurs in any setting, in any state, in any community!


Item 3 - You made up a false quote. The correct quote is "The federal government remains shut down for one reason, and one reason only, because Democrats will not fund border security." This is true, because he said "remains."


The Gov "remains" shut because Trump walked away.... from what he previously accepted in a bi-partisan agreement, that he rescinded on the prodding of the extreme right pundits..........that is why the democrats won't fund it, because they didn't say they would................Trump is the one who rescinded on his initial pledge.....not the Democrats............so if he blames the democrats, it is a LIE!


Sorry, none of your examples stands up as a lie.


maybe you should read the same "fact check" link (you put up).....very well
 2Irish123
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Posted: 1/9/2019 10:01:53 AM
Apparently Shep Smith of FOX News Entertainment felt the need to fact check tRump last night:


Fox News host Shep Smith wasted no time fact-checking Trump's address
https://theweek.com/speedreads/816583/fox-news-host-shep-smith-wasted-no-time-factchecking-trumps-address
 dragonbytes
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Posted: 1/9/2019 10:51:15 AM
I think it's plausible that Trump WANTS to get impeached.

If he get's tossed out, no fault of his, it was the evil dems and turncoat repubs. Get's him out without a humiliating election loss. Now if Pence later pardon's him, for sure the fix was in.
 Noftheborder
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Posted: 1/9/2019 10:55:21 AM
It would appear that there are cracks developing in both the heretofore suck ups of Faux News and the GOP itself. The tide appears to be turning. Those cracks may well turn into craters more quickly than anticipated now because of 800,000 angry people being held hostage over a mirage of a platform promise, the Dems taking over the House, the Mueller investigation causing plausible doubt regarding Trump's campaign people, if not Trump himself, a $2 trillion increase in the deficit, a volatile stock market caused (only in part) by Trump's constant waffling statements on matters foreign and domestic, and the list goes on. With 2020 looming, what was once considered any easy matter of following a pied piper to hold onto or obtain a political position, it would seem that simply having a stagnant base followed by extremely poor governance is causing individuals to become more vocal in opposition to the mental midget. Trump Derangement Syndrome or Boiling Frog Syndrome - the former (stupid term) is justifiable and the latter can be dangerous.
 BaldwinMotionPhaseIII
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:08:35 AM
at least chump didn't go wildly off script, but we can credit the brevity of the speech for that. still, the dems need to do a far better job than they did. that was an actual case of them providing nothing but "we're anti trump" for a response. all they had to do was provide the real facts on the ground, as a rebuttal.
 platitude545
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:56:40 AM
real facts? Since when to Trumpsters pay attention to facts...too complicated for them to follow . . .but here they are: per David Stockman



As to the alleged hordes of menacing immigrants...
The 310,000 unauthorized immigrant apprehensions at the southwest US border in 2017, in fact, represented a 78% plunge from the level in the year 2000. And when it comes to Mexican migrants, the decline has been nearly 90%.

Likewise, there is no evidence of crime spilling over the borders. To the contrary, on three leading measures of crimes per 100,000 population in 2017, the counties which border Mexico have lower rates than for the rest of the US.

For example, there are 3.4 homicides per 100,000 in the border counties compared to a 5.2 per 100,000 rate in the rest of the US.

In the case of the property crime rate, it is 2,207/100,000 in the border counties and 2,256/100,000 in the rest of the country. And when it comes to all violent crimes including assault, battery rape, muggings etc the rate is 348/100,000 in the border counties and 379/100,000 in the rest of the nation.

Indeed, on the crime flowing over the border file, the Donald pulled a downright fast one in his speech. He cited ICE arrest statistics, which suggested that 66% of these cases involved illegals who had previously been convicted of a crime----and in many cases violent ones.

But here's the thing. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency (ICE) doesn't patrol the borders!

For better or ill, it is in the deportation business, and as a matter of operating procedure targets likely criminals for its raids and arrests throughout the interior of the USA. That is, there is an inherent high criminal ratio in the ICE arrest statistics because that exactly what its mission entails.

By contrast, it is the Border Patrol which picks up illegals along the border. For the year 2018 through August 31, it apprehended 361,993 undocumented immigrants, but only 6,259---or 1.7%---had a prior criminal record according to Border Patrol data.

Moreover, 3,600 or 58% of these criminals were actually circular criminals. That is, they had previously been convicted of illegal entry into the U.S. (a misdemeanor) or reentry (a felony). Another 1,000 had been convicted of driving under the influence of alcohol.

In fact, among last years 361,993 apprehended illegal border crossers, there were only three convictions for manslaughter, which implies a rate per 100,000 that is 75% lower than for the general US population; and a total of 506 convictions for assault, battery or domestic violence, which also implies a rate far below the US average. . . .,

Finally, there is the Donald's claim that "people are pouring into our country, including terrorists.”

Purportedly, that means the border crisis implicates national security, and is therefore the basis for declaring a national emergency, if Congress remains recalcitrant.

But that's were the Fake Crisis is really a crock.

To wit, according to a detailed study by the Cato Institute, between 2007 and 2017 the border patrol apprehended 5,295,000 undocumented immigrants. During that period, about 63 countries were designated by the Department of Homeland Security and other intelligence agencies as "specially designated countries" or "countries of interest" owing to their having "shown a tendency to promote, produce or protect terrorist organizations or their members".

As it happened, 5,250,000 or 99.15% of these apprehensions were of persons not from these terrorist prone countries.

Moreover, of the 45,000 apprehended over 10 years from the 63 countries on Washington's terrorist lists, about 17,000 were from India, 13,000 from Brazil, 2,500 from Bangladesh and 2,900 from Nepal---all countries that do not immediately come to mind as burgeoning safe harbors for jihadist terrorists.

On the other hand, detainees from Iraq (101), Afghanistan (102), Saudi Arabia (97), Yemen (68) and Syria (64) accounted for only 0.1% of all detainees; and as it happened, none of them had actually been involved in plots to commit acts of terrorism on US soil.

In fact, for the entire 42 year period between 1975 and 2017, the Cato study showed that there had been zero people murdered or injured in the US by foreigners who came across the U.S. borders illegally; and of the seven illegal entrants who had just planned or plotted attacks which didn't actually happen, none came across the Mexican border:

Zero people were murdered or injured in terror attacks committed on U.S. soil by special interest aliens who entered illegally from 1975 through the end of 2017. However, seven special interest aliens who initially entered illegally have been convicted of planning a terrorist attack on U.S. soil. They all entered illegally from Canada or jumped ship in American ports before the list of special interest countries even existed. None of them successfully carried out their attacks and none illegally crossed the Mexican border.
 MyTrueCompanion
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Posted: 1/10/2019 12:22:49 PM
Cohen to testify PUBLICLY before Congress on February 7th












;0P
 Llove2laughtoo
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Posted: 1/12/2019 11:23:14 AM

Comrade Trump: "I never said Mexico would pay for the wall."


I don't know what's worst, Comrade Trump saying "I never said Mexico would pay for the wall" or the GOP standing with Trump behind this obvious lie.

MAGA: Morons Are Governing America.
 2Irish123
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Posted: 1/13/2019 7:29:21 AM

F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/us/politics/fbi-trump-russia-inquiry.html

At least he was working for someone!
 Llove2laughtoo
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Posted: 1/13/2019 11:52:24 AM
Last time I checked, Comrade Trump said "this Russia thing is a nothing burrito...."

MAGA: Morons Are Governing America.


Trump has concealed details of his five face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in administration

There are no detailed records of five personal meetings President Donald Trump has had with Russian President Vladimir Putin, The Washington Post reported Saturday, citing US officials.

Trump has gone to what the Post described as "extraordinary lengths" to keep the specifics of his conversations with his Russian counterpart under wraps.

Current and former US officials told the paper that Trump's efforts include confiscating the notes from his interpreter and not allowing them to discuss the details of the meetings with other officials in his administration.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/12/politics/trump-putin-meetings-no-records/index.html
 BaldwinMotionPhaseIII
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Posted: 1/16/2019 11:22:38 AM
"At least he was working for someone!"

>>>that's awesome :)

as for the nothing burrito, Chump had it next to the gutburgers and fries he had at the White Again House for a sports team. is dat dude classy or what? couldn't find an olive garden or a subway?
 Noftheborder
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Posted: 1/16/2019 3:30:34 PM
^ Gotta love the guy...egotistically brags about feeding sport team members at the same time 800,000 are wondering how they'll be able to afford to pay for their next meal thanks to his ego filled government shut down. Class without the cl for sure.
 Million_Reasons
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Posted: 1/16/2019 3:55:12 PM
^I thought it was great!


I hope POTUS holds the SOTU at the southern border surrounded by Angel families.

Build the....Theraputic Visual Delineation for the Nationality Dysphoric...aka...Wall ! :)



VVV There was pizza...right under the warmer lamps with the "White House" fries! That's class!

Only thing that could have been better is if they were serving the "Lord's" waffle fries. ;)
 N2U18
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Posted: 1/16/2019 3:56:26 PM
You gotta Love President Trump!

He’s using the Democrats talking points of a few years ago when they were peddling a “Barrier” at the border. You know Dem’s, they were for it before they were against it lol

I don’t know how I would have survived college if not for the fast food joints surrounding the University. I’m confident the only complaint from those college students was that there was no Pizza.

During this brief intermission you will be entertained by a live musical performance from La Résistance.

https://twitter.com/Harlan/status/1085353913388277760

When you Libs are not bludgeoning people to death you can be Humorous.
 daynadaze
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Posted: 1/16/2019 7:01:00 PM
Keep on trying, your attempt at at making Trump seem like he's a comedian is pretty funny, but it is a bomb. How is that Putin stuff working for you, are you a Putin supporter?
 Million_Reasons
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Posted: 1/17/2019 4:56:41 PM
Can't speak for anyone else but I am pissed about the "Putin stuff"!

How the heck did we get here? I cannot believe every American is not up in arms...storming the White House! How can any American condone the solicitation of fabricated opposition research from the Russians to use for leaking and circular confirmation to justify a FISA warrent to legally spy on your political oppononent?

The best part??? After ALL that...Hillary still couldn't win! LMAO!


Oh yeah! And it looks like Nancy got grounded for bad behavior today!
 jon1725
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Posted: 1/17/2019 7:13:11 PM
Well, pelosi went to hawaii and now she wanted to go overseas.....she and the democrats will lose on this border security thing...they have no intentions to come to the table.

And the most interesting thing to come yet is the democratic catastrophe of what happened with the FISA thingy.

Vlad, hope you are doing well.....you were accused by a poster as far as not really knowing what goes on here in the US.....well, that poster is really afraid you know too much!!!!! You do have a pretty good feel for what is going on in the US.

The shutdown is all on the democrats and the liberals are going to start getting really upset with their leaders very soon!!!!

Sorry Nan, you can't leave the US like you left for hawaii, telling us all that you could care less for the 800,000 plus people who are affected by the shutdown. I sure hope that all politicians that have "walls" around their homes are for border security!!!!! I know I know, hypocrisy at its best!!!!
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Posted: 1/17/2019 7:24:35 PM
WOW, someone's smokin' some really bad stuff^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
 Million_Reasons
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Posted: 1/17/2019 7:30:56 PM
^Or maybe....someone sold you the bad stuff! It happens.

Even experienced users get taken. Lol!


 jon1725
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Posted: 1/17/2019 8:38:59 PM
That is typical when the left posts a so called "reply". they know what is going to happen so they put the blinders on even tighter!!

Must be a cortez socialist who thinks nonsense......even the democratic party is worried about who they have in the house

Hopefully the 800,000 plus people not working will tell nancy and cryin chucky enough is enough....negotiate, what a novel idea!!!
 Llove2laughtoo
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Posted: 1/17/2019 10:09:19 PM
Just in, Comrade Trump supposedly personally directed Cohen to lie to Congress about Moscow Trump Tower Project. Comrade Trump apologists and enablers defending the Lying King in ....3....2....1...

MAGA: Morons Are Governing America.
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