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 johnfromzelie
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....... they almost need to go. ...............but definitely see them being used as political pawns.



so which is it?............you will not get one without the other!............I'm hoping the Covington headmaster is not on your side of the fence!
I said I had mixed feelings and explained why. I don't have a 'side of the fence' typical for this forum, if I am not 100% in agreement, then I must be 100% against.
 Noftheborder
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Posted: 1/23/2019 8:15:53 PM
While the latest topic here of MAGA hats, catholic schoolboys, an Indian elder and a group of black rabble rousers makes for interesting debate for various reasons, it doesn’t detract from but only serves to highlight the fact your country is like a highly dysfunctional diverse family in need of counselling on an urgent basis. There is just so much wrong in so many area. From the outside looking in it’s like watching malignant cells multiplying, with the way each bad decision leads to the next calamity because of intense tribalism in combination with a huge lack of cognitive thinking.

The ability to shut your government down to the detriment of innocent parties to the Tomfoolery is irrational. It’s too bad you don’t have the ability to call for a vote of non confidence to precipitate an election, which would allow many to save face for continuing this circus to continue thus far.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 1/24/2019 1:33:13 AM
Nof
"While the latest topic here of MAGA hats, catholic schoolboys, an Indian elder and a group of black rabble rousers makes for interesting debate for various reasons, it doesn’t detract from but only serves to highlight the fact your country is like a highly dysfunctional diverse family in need of counselling on an urgent basis.

There is just so much wrong in so many area. From the outside looking in it’s like watching malignant cells multiplying, with the way each bad decision leads to the next calamity because of intense tribalism in combination with a huge lack of cognitive thinking."


Some excellent points in there that i agree with. I also think the massive shift towards identity politics has caused citizens to be at each others throats. Which in turn means debate and reason are sacrificed for shrieking and outrage.

Martin luther kings speech about not seeing a white man, a black man etc etc and just seeing a man is now in shreds. The article mentions that as well. Imagine if king made that speech now? All the 'identities' he would have to mention.

I mind reading this below last year. I have picked wee bits out of the article but the full article is a good read........


"When groups feel threatened, they retreat into tribalism. When groups feel mistreated and disrespected, they close ranks and become more insular, more defensive, more punitive, more us-versus-them.

Of course, one group’s claims to feeling threatened and voiceless are often met by another group’s derision because it discounts their own feelings of persecution – but such is political tribalism.

This – combined with record levels of inequality – is why we now see identity politics on both sides of the political spectrum. And it leaves the United States in a perilous new situation: almost no one is standing up for an America without identity politics, for an American identity that transcends and unites all the country’s many subgroups.

Fifty years ago, the rhetoric of pro–civil rights, Great Society liberals was, in its dominant voices, expressly group transcending, framed in the language of national unity and equal opportunity.

At the 2004 Democratic National Convention in Boston, Barack Obama famously declared, “There’s not a black America and white America and Latino America and Asian America; there’s the United States of America.”

A decade and a half later, we are very far from Obama’s America.

When liberal icon Bernie Sanders told supporters, “It’s not good enough for somebody to say, ‘Hey, I’m a Latina, vote for me,’ ” Quentin James, a leader of Hillary Clinton’s outreach efforts to people of color, retorted that Sanders’s “comments regarding identity politics suggest he may be a white supremacist, too”.*

Although inclusivity is presumably still the ultimate goal, the contemporary Left is pointedly exclusionary.

During a Black Lives Matter protest at the DNC held in Philadelphia in July 2016, a protest leader announced that “this is a black and brown resistance march”, asking white allies to “appropriately take [their] place in the back of this march”.

Not everyone on the Left is happy with the direction that identity politics has taken. Many are dismayed by the focus on cultural appropriation. As a progressive Mexican American law student put it, “If we allowed ourselves to be hurt by a costume, how could we manage the trauma of an eviction notice?”**

He added: “Liberals have cried wolf too many times. If everything is racist and sexist, nothing is. When Trump, the real wolf, came along, no one listened.”

In part this development carries forward a long tradition of white tribalism in America. But white identity politics has also gotten a tremendous recent boost from the Left, whose relentless berating, shaming, and bullying might have done more damage than good.

One Trump voter claimed that “maybe I’m just so sick of being called a bigot that my anger at the authoritarian left has pushed me to support this seriously flawed man.” “The Democratic party,” said Bill Maher, “made the white working man feel like your problems aren’t real because you’re ‘mansplaining’ and check your privilege. You know, if your life sucks, your problems are real.”

Just as the Left’s exclusionary identity politics is ironic in light of the Left’s ostensible demands for inclusivity, so too is the emergence of a “white” identity politics on the right.

At its core, the problem is simple but fundamental. While black Americans, Asian Americans, Hispanic Americans, Jewish Americans, and many others are allowed – indeed, encouraged – to feel solidarity and take pride in their racial or ethnic identity, white Americans have for the last several decades been told they must never, ever do so.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/mar/01/how-americas-identity-politics-went-from-inclusion-to-division



*When liberal icon Bernie Sanders told supporters, “It’s not good enough for somebody to say, ‘Hey, I’m a Latina, vote for me,’ ” Quentin James, a leader of Hillary Clinton’s outreach efforts to people of color, retorted that Sanders’s “comments regarding identity politics suggest he may be a white supremacist, too”.

Brilliant. Maybe it was because of idiotic thinking like that meant that is why clinton never won? Bernie the 'socialist' being a white supremacist. Wonder if he wears a maga cap when he's watching telly?


**Not everyone on the Left is happy with the direction that identity politics has taken. Many are dismayed by the focus on cultural appropriation. As a progressive Mexican American law student put it, “If we allowed ourselves to be hurt by a costume, how could we manage the trauma of an eviction notice?"

Hard to dispute that point of view. All this shutting down of debate and general snowflakery are causing great harm.

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The reason my posts are so long is because of the 'messages this short cannot be posted' thingy. I cannot mind exactly how many words i must use. And i am also only allowed to post five times per day due to being sent to the forum gulag in cyberia for being a naughty Scottish twat.

Oh and welcome back. I disagree with a lot of what you post but your posts can make interesting reading.
 HawkingJr
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Posted: 1/24/2019 5:52:29 AM
“You read into the comment (at least mine) incorrectly.”

My apologies – I now see that is the case. I posted yesterday in haste (despite the length of the post – I made the mistake of spending 90% of my time writing the post and 10% of my time reading the preceding posts when it probably should have been the other way around).

“Oh Hawking!!!!!!!! You must have been kidding when you wrote the above right?? So if you are at a protest, if someone disagrees with you they have the right to have ‘trouble come your way’???”

It is not a question of “rights.” The gist of what I was saying is that if you knowingly put yourself in a dangerous situation, then you should not be surprised when bad things happen to you. I’m quite sure you agree and told your children that on numerous occasions when they were growing up. You just don’t see wearing a MAGA hat in a diverse environment as dangerous, because you refuse to believe that MAGA has racist connotations. That’s akin to your teen daughter refusing to believe a really short skirt and deep cleavage-baring blouse has sexual connotations. You do not control the connotations something has to a population. You can believe MAGA is non-racist because the phrase’s inventor says that is not what it means, but the inventor of something cannot control that invention’s perception once it’s released to the public.

Just like the teen girl has to learn that her outfit will be viewed by many as “slutty” no matter what her intentions were when she put it together and accept the consequences if she decides to wear it anyway with that knowledge, the MAGA hat wearer will have to learn that his outfit will be viewed by many as racist no matter what his intentions were when he chose it and accept the consequences if he decides to wear it anyway with that knowledge. Is that fair? Maybe not, but who said life was fair? Because of my skin color, I know many white people will automatically assume I am a thug upon seeing me – I don’t think that’s fair, but I live my life with that knowledge in mind and do things to try to reduce the likelihood that tensions will rise while interacting with unfamiliar whites. Again, doesn’t seem fair that their false perception should control my life like that, but the alternative to adapting my behavior could be the kind of chaos I’d prefer not to deal with. THAT is what MAGA hat wearers have to think about: is it more important for me to publicly celebrate my beliefs than it is for me to be safe?

Again, it’s just COMMON SENSE that if you wear something with racist connotations and approach a group of people who are espousing anti-racist rhetoric, no good can come from that. Children, of course, don’t have a lot of common sense or experience, which is why in my opinion the onus was on their chaperones to keep them from getting into trouble. It’s difficult to imagine a rational adult chaperone telling those boys “Oh, sure, feel free to wear your MAGA hats out there where a group of black people protesting racial inequality – I’m 100% sure that won’t lead to any confrontations.”

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As for this record-breaking shutdown (which has taken down one of my close friends in the Coast Guard -- and I can promise you she does NOT support what Trump is doing to her), at this point, I don't really see any way out except for Trump to take some sort of executive action (including possibly but not necessarily the authoritarian emergency declaration he was batting around a couple weeks ago) -- he will take nothing less than wall funding because of the zealots controlling his agenda, the Democrats will not fund the wall because America told them they didn't want the wall in the last election and many of the new Democratic House members that gave them the majority were elected with "no wall" as part of their policy agenda. That is an impasse. Like a wall. So Trump pretty much has to attempt to do something of questionable legality that will get tied up in courts until after he's thrown out of office, and after he makes that move, THEN Congress will, probably nearly unanimously, vote on bills to reopen government that he will sign despite no wall funding because he will claim "I'm getting the wall anyway, as soon as the courts rule in my favor." The only other possible way out is for Republicans in Congress to grow a spine and agree to override a Trump veto. It's difficult to imagine that happening.

Meanwhile, despite Mueller's team issuing a rare statement claiming Buzzfeed's ONE report was not entirely "accurate," we're getting pretty close to the point where they are going to release a report so damning against Trump that even Nixon would be like "Yeah, that guy needs impeaching." And then it's just going to sit in the Senate until after the next election, because Trump cultism has spread to Congress. So, yeah, Trump will last the full 4 years, although since it is highly questionable that he can pardon himself, he might want to strongly consider resigning shortly before the end of the term to allow Pence to pardon him before prosecutors can indict him upon leaving office, because I guarantee you President O'Rourke/Harris/Biden won't be pardoning him, not even for "the good of the country."
 BaldwinMotionPhaseIII
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Posted: 1/24/2019 8:30:28 AM
trevor noah made an interesting observati0n last night. chump loves nicknames, esp. for women who dare to stand up to him .but he calls nancy pelosi just....nancy. why no nickname? fear? personally, i think its respect, the same he gives to dictators. in certain situations, he likes someone who reigns him in. maybe next time nancy should spank him with a rolled up magazine and see what she gets then.

""When groups feel threatened, they retreat into tribalism. When groups feel mistreated and disrespected, they close ranks and become more insular, more defensive, more punitive, more us-versus-them."

>>.that would describe the trump campaign. Jeb, Rubio and Cruz tried to reach out to the Latino community, and Trump said it brings us rapists and terrorists. it took centuries for america to create racism, starting with how they treated the natives. one presidential term wasn't going to fix it, unfortunately.

"So if you are at a protest, if someone disagrees with you they have the right to have "trouble come your way"??? Seriously?? Of course they don't and if they do the law needs to come down on them!!"

>>>luckily for the trumpanzees who threw the sucker punch or drove over protesters, the president of the united states promised he'd pay the legal fees, b/c MAGA means returning to the days protesters got carried out on stretchers. remember that famous presidental speech? your grand kids will learn it in school next to "i have a dream".
 platitude545
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Posted: 1/24/2019 10:33:07 AM
""""I don't have a 'side of the fence' typical for this forum"""

Bullsh^t....you are always whining about liberals one way or another. You are solidly in trump's camp. Open minded individuals of course typically will see both sides of the fence...That's not you.
 gavs321
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Posted: 1/24/2019 10:35:55 AM
if a president supports Israel (trump does), that president isn't going anywhere.

Why do you think AIPAC exists? Huge Jewish influence in America and as long as you support Israel... untouchable
 platitude545
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Posted: 1/24/2019 10:44:38 AM
"""Because of my skin color, I know many white people will automatically assume I am a thug upon seeing me """"

Sorry Hawk. It takes more than being black to be perceived as a thug...it takes overall appearance, the clothes you wear, the style of your hair, the way you walk. Not sure how you are defining "many", but few white peoe will consider a well dressed normal black guy as a thug simply based on race.
 gavs321
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Posted: 1/24/2019 10:48:29 AM
"""Because of my skin color, I know many white people will automatically assume I am a thug upon seeing me """"

Sorry Hawk. It takes more than being black to be perceived as a thug...it takes overall appearance, the clothes you wear, the style of your hair, the way you walk. Not sure how you are defining "many", but few white peoe will consider a well dressed normal black guy as a thug simply based on race.

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(I am not pro black, I hate everyone...).

This is a lie. Many black people are perceived as inferior especially here in Texas...

If you catch a felony as a white male in Texas and a black guy gets the same thing, you will get a worse plea deal as the black man.

A family friend that's a defense attorney admitted this and said it's so bad, he doesn't feel comfortable taking black people to trial
 HawkingJr
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Posted: 1/24/2019 11:10:47 AM
“Sorry Hawk. It takes more than being black to be perceived as a thug...it takes overall appearance, the clothes you wear, the style of your hair, the way you walk. Not sure how you are defining ‘many’, but few white peoe will consider a well dressed normal black guy as a thug simply based on race.”

There is SOME truth to that. In fact, it was kind of what I was alluding to in the follow-up on that statement you quoted. My father (a very educated man who grew up highly mistreated in the Jim Crowe South) actually told me when I was young to always dress nicely or white people would think I was a thug. He wore suits and ties to almost everything he attended outside of his farm. Now, so do I. In fact, it became something of a (positive) running joke in my circle of friends – we’d go to a party or bar or club and most of the guys would be dressed all right, even nicely, but I’d be the only one in a suit, and everybody started calling me “The Business.” But nobody ever called me a thug. The n-word, sure, but no doubt Kanye and Jay-Z are more responsible for most of those cases than racism.

Yet, even dressed like that, I’ve still seen white women “clutch their purses” or otherwise avoid me or eye contact, which in some cases can possibly be ascribed to those women trying to avoid interaction with ANY men regardless of color, but in other cases I’ve seen them interact with white men afterwards with smiles on their faces, so...

The point is, in relation to the discussion in this thread, because of my choices of attire, no one ever looks at me and thinks “thug” (“pimp,” sometimes maybe, especially when I’ve got a suit on and am surrounded by a bunch of white women... which is quite often, since my 2 best friends are white women). So if you’re a white teenager and don’t want people to think you’re a racist, maybe you should choose some attire besides a MAGA hat. Again, is that fair? Maybe not, but it is what it is.
 platitude545
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Posted: 1/24/2019 12:55:43 PM
**This is a lie**

And you think other states are like texas where it is conidered sport to convict and execute innocent black people? Home to two of our worst presidents.Lbj who killed 10's of thousands to save face and gwb, who attacked iraq on false pretenses?
 johnfromzelie
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Posted: 1/24/2019 2:52:39 PM
I have mixed feelings on the wh visit. after all that happened, they almost need to go. they shouldn't have to give up the chance to go but definitely see them being used as political pawns.
Bullsh^t....you are always whining about liberals one way or another. You are solidly in trump's camp. Open minded individuals of course typically will see both sides of the fence...That's not you.
why such a ****? WHAT I REALLY SAID was if your not 100% for YOUR SIDE, then I am assumed 100% against! even when I see both sides AND STATE SO, you still slander me. have you ever countered my comments without insult and actually addressing what I say?
 platitude545
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Posted: 1/24/2019 3:04:13 PM
^^^^ There are certain people I pick up on.....

Jovan for being one of the biggest bigots on the board despite his claim to fame being he was not a bigot,

Cotter an antisemite claiming her best friends were Jewish,

Little red rider, aka hopeless aka screwed&8 claiming others are haters and stalkers when his claim to fame on this board is he hates jews, denies the holocaust and accuses jews of believing gentiles to be non-human (i.e. cattle)...and has stalked me ever since he saw my strong support of Israel.

Ben Aflick....who said the most inance things on this board...always wrong...always critical about everybody else under the sun.

then there is you... you I notice constantly whining and complaining about "liberals"..decrying their myopic thinking, while at the same time repeatedly telling everybody how open minded you are.

All of the above have my BS meter going full blast........sorry if the actual truth bothers you.
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Posted: 1/24/2019 3:11:42 PM

luckily for the trumpanzees who threw the sucker punch or drove over protesters, the president of the united states promised he'd pay the legal fees, b/c MAGA means returning to the days protesters got carried out on stretchers. remember that famous presidental speech? your grand kids will learn it in school next to "i have a dream".

I think Tang has a valid point here and when you replace “I Have A Dream” with Identity Politics, Tribalism is the intended result. I learned in school about Hitler’s “Brownshirts”, Mussolini’s “Blackshirts” (wait…..seems similar to ANTIFA) and the Democrats KKK. My Grandpappy always said, “when Dem’s don the hood, it ain’t good” and doesn’t matter if the victim is black, brown, or white.


If you catch a felony as a white male in Texas and a black guy gets the same thing, you will get a worse plea deal as the black man

Interesting to know, I live in Texas and always thought there was some kind of “Sentencing Guidelines” (nature of the crime, criminal record, etc.) instead of based solely on race. Texas has a diverse population, South Texas is heavily Hispanic (the majority), Dallas/Ft Worth Metroplex has a growing Asian population, heavily Hispanic, Black, White, and the justice system is a mix of this diverse population. I was curious because you didn’t mention it, but what’s it like for Hispanic and Asian Males in Texas?


So if you’re a white teenager and don’t want people to think you’re a racist, maybe you should choose some attire besides a MAGA hat. Again, is that fair? Maybe not, but it is what it is.

Hawk…I’m going to agree with you on this one. We have had two years of Democrats Demonizing Trump and “Deplorables” so that voters would save America from “White Supremacy” (Bogeyman) during the next election and it had an impact. The entire point is that Dem’s don’t want people supporting Trump and there’s going to be a penalty if you do. Politics!
 trinity818
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Posted: 1/24/2019 4:32:29 PM

We have had two years of Democrats Demonizing Trump and “Deplorables” so that voters would save America from “White Supremacy” (Bogeyman) during the next election and it had an impact.


Ok... so I'm not a "Dem", but it seems to me that there is quite a lot of "demonizing" going on from ALL directions. This is what we've been reduced to. I try not to think too much about it all, because its just too stressful to look at the big picture.
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Posted: 1/24/2019 5:10:16 PM
I had no idea a MAGA hat had so much power.

I should have believed Kanye when he said it made him feel like "Superman"!

And it seems to have given a 16 year old boy the courage to stand up to the aggressive Chief Freon Recon Ranger!

Mine arrives tommorrow. :)
 johnfromzelie
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Posted: 1/24/2019 5:29:55 PM

^^^^ There are certain people I pick up on.....
Just Who Is a Bully?

Studies show that bullies lack prosocial behavior, are untroubled by anxiety, and do not understand others' feelings. They misread the intentions of others, often imputing hostility in neutral situations. They typically see themselves quite positively. Those who chronically bully have strained relationships with parents and peers. Bullies couldn't exist without victims, and they don't pick on just anyone; those singled out lack assertiveness even in nonthreatening situations and radiate fear long before they ever encounter a bully. Increasingly, children are growing up without the kinds of play experiences in which children develop social skills and learn how to solve social problems.
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Posted: 1/24/2019 6:26:43 PM
johnzelie says in post 8225


your response addressed my point quite well! you totally missed the real issue,


Not at all..........your issue is about how conservatives catch heat if they gripe about having to "accept"....someone of the likes you describe, yet at the same time you gripe about the "libs" getting a free pass on bashing conservative values.

But what you overlooked is that conservative values are flat out hypocritical if you only REJECT those who are outwardly perverted.........and yet say NOTHING about those who are COVERTLY perverted


your response addressed my point quite well! you totally missed the real issue,


No, the issue is as I've just explained above........it has to do with Hypocrisy way more than transgenders/gays.


I posted that to see if ANYONE would see an issue with the cum


The reality is that mostly anyone (Repub or Democrat) would likely have an "issue" seeing someone like who you described parading down Main St USA..........in fact I would actually go out on the limb and say that most reasonable gays and transgender folks would not see such a person (if any such person truly exists in real life) in a favorable light

The thing that "libs" (as you call them) have more of a problem with.........is how you decide who is acceptable and who isn't............Just because Trump doesn't have an unkempt beard, and "cum" running down on it.....does not make HIS brand of perversion more acceptable.... than the person in the example you gave.
 platitude545
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Posted: 1/24/2019 6:44:43 PM
johnzellie, , are you a bully when you take on bullies???? Bullies like you are my favorite sport. And yes you are a bully. You consider yourself superior as you are constantly putting down "liberals" and democrats. Very sad.
 johnfromzelie
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Posted: 1/24/2019 7:36:41 PM

Not at all..........your issue is about how conservatives catch heat if they gripe about having to "accept"....someone of the likes you describe, yet at the same time you gripe about the "libs" getting a free pass on bashing conservative values.
not exactly. I don't think either should get a free pass on 'bashing'. many topics (not just here) quickly get focused on racism, homophobe or other prejudices and miss the real issue. not directed at you but when one assumes all conservatives are such, that is bashing/stereotype/prejudice.
The reality is that mostly anyone (Repub or Democrat) would likely have an "issue" seeing someone like who you described parading down Main St USA..........in fact I would actually go out on the limb and say that most reasonable gays and transgender folks would not see such a person (if any such person truly exists in real life) in a favorable light
I agree. and not many would have an issue with gay/transgender. almost everyone would be disgusted with the dripping cum. many wouldn't care for a a man wearing a dress in public, some might think the beard clashes with the dress and a few would say he was trying to provoke others. regardless why it bothers someone is meaningless, they will be labeled homophobic if they say a word.
 johnfromzelie
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Posted: 1/24/2019 7:43:22 PM

johnzellie, , are you a bully when you take on bullies???? Bullies like you are my favorite sport. And yes you are a bully. You consider yourself superior as you are constantly putting down "liberals" and democrats. Very sad.
I learned a long time ago that the best way to deal with bullies is to drag them out into the middle of the playground and let everyone see just what they are! like the three pages of you throwing a hissy fit, like when your wrong, you just resort to name calling and how I got you to post how you have several you like to pick on! who's the dumbazz now?
 Million_Reasons
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Posted: 1/24/2019 7:48:03 PM
"many topics (not just here) quickly get focused on racism, homophobe or other prejudices and miss the real issue. not directed at you but when one assumes all conservatives are such, that is bashing/stereotype/prejudice."


Yeah. That's kinda what happens when you push identity politics and don't take into consideration the consequences of "intersectionality".

WTF happened to common sense?
 platitude545
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Posted: 1/24/2019 8:15:32 PM

I learned a long time ago that the best way to deal with bullies is to drag them out into the middle of the playground and let everyone see just what they are! like the three pages of you throwing a hissy fit, like when your wrong, you just resort to name calling and how I got you to post how you have several you like to pick on! who's the dumbazz now?


You got me to post about them LOLOL.....you live in a fantasy world my friend...i've been posting about those characters forever and will continue doing so....you simply join them on my list of undesirables....I would consider you the whiner of the bunch though. That is your unique characteristic. They all have a unique characteristic. Yours is Whining. Hopeless is to nutcase like Jovan is obsessed with Catholic Priests like you are to whining...non stop. Boo Hoo hoo..the liberals do this and that ...its so unfair.........they call me mean names. You are a Kleenex manufacturers dream customers. Poor baby...can't handle how people can be so mean to you. I am getting the sniffles just thinking about it.
 platitude545
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Posted: 1/25/2019 7:36:22 AM
Hawk, i was thinking about what you said. I of course have not lived your life growing up black in the deep south....but i'm not sure that most people today look st a normally dressed, reasonably kempt black man and see a black man. I think they see just a man, like any normally dressed, reasonably kempt white man.

The problem arises when a black man mimmicks the black inner city culture, pants falling down to the buttocks, uncut, dreadlocks, latge chains, bad language etc. There is no doubt white america sees the inner city black culture as a threat...but we also see red neck white men as threats too.

I've said this before, the problem with the inner city young black man is the perception, at least, of drugs, crimes and violence. There is no reason anybody would or should perceive those attributes to any normally dressed, normal looking black or white man.

Racism is alive and well in the country of course, but i think a lot of that is attributed to the differences between the middle class white culture vs the inner city black culture which gets so much press. Just my opinion fwiw.
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Will President Elect Donald Trump Last The Full 4 Years?
Posted: 1/25/2019 9:54:38 AM
Identity politics is how parties get voters off their ass and into a voting booth. Nixon did it with a drug war against urban blacks and hippies, while talking about the silent majority and the anti establishments. Bush took on his own drug war, but not against the powder cocaine the wall street whites were snorting, but the crack sold in compton (to quote dirty harry, the VFW). then during the clinton campaign of political correctness, rush limbagh and the rest of hate AM radio identified "feminazis" and other groups as stealing white men's masculinity. and of course Steve Bannon's website and InfoWars kept that tiki torch lit.

on the liberal side, yep, there were groups there identifying themselves against these threats. hey, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em right? videos of cops beating black motorists got a collective yawn, and next thing we know a footballer takes a knee. but it gets the left side motivated to do something, and suddenly AOC is in office and tweeting.
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