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 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
Msg: 2901
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It's simple .....unless you can provide a link that Reggae is your Father and not a style of music then it's an indication that your Father been lying to you or you been lying to the forum ..... this is so embarrassing

You know...all it takes is ONE link to wikipedia to shut you down and shut you up... never mind the tons of sources all over the net to confirm this common knowledge concerning reggae. For a guy in here talking about reggae like ya know it...you dont know shit.

See...I can in the BLINK of an eye shut you down... but...not yet. I'd rather you get off your lazy ass and find out for yourself... but the more shit talk and insults you sling...the deeper you go into your own shit. How embarrassing will it be for YOU if I decide to post my evidence and its 100% true.

So...check this:
Cecil Campbell was the producer.
JBC studios was JUST starting, my dad being their first artist and hit.
Count Ozzie was the leader of the ACCOMPANYING band. He was a rasta looking to make his mark in music and had zero creds in the music world til my dads song, which my uncles Junior (still in yard) and Miko (lives in Detroit) sang back up.
It is THE founding song, the very first track, and literally the one and ONLY song that started 'ragga'...aka reggae music.
Another hint...my dad is a PhD Suma cum laud from University of Toronto... the #1 University in the word for ranlkins of large universities with over 40K students...same school I attended and had jumped for on their varsity team as a part of their Junior Olympic Development program from when I was still in high school.

I have Roger Steffans interview with my dad in the Beat magazine from 1994 RIGHT HERE.
Hell... lets tease ya with a lil taste of that:

"The song was released in late ’59. Forresters Hall was where the dancehall massive of the time went to hear the very latest shots, and the song was played there as many as 1 5 times in a single evening. “People were just traveling there, they would fill up the place just to hear this song.” It got so big, the radio could no longer ignore it. “I remember the first time it came over JBC,” exults XXXXX (hahaha my dad). The announcer, “Radcliffe Butler said, ‘Here is a very controversial song’!” It was because “Xx Xxxxxxxx” was “the first song throughout the whole history of Jamaica that gave the Rastafarian movement respectability, and it did it in a subtle way. The tradition of the kumina drums, and the cromanty drums, burru drums, those are the symbols of protest in Jamaican history. The Maroons, for instance, who fought the British successfully, used to communicate with one another through the sound of drums. Also the drums were socio-cultural instruments that colonized Jamaica couldn’t truly identify with because of the rituals and the seances around them, the Pocomania tradition, for instance. So even though they are very truly our culture, Jamaicans had a way of looking down at things like that because of the colonial influence in the country.
“So I did Count Ossie a favor, because he was looking for someone to record him. And he got his name associated with the song. The drums came and they had a controversial effect too, because people say the drums were Rastafarian. But in Xx Xxxxxxxx’ it was just the drums: There were no Rastafarian lyrics. There was no protest, there was no philosophy, no theology. And so it was acceptable as an art form that somehow empowered African roots in a very unintimidating, subtle fashion. At first people thought, because of the drums, that the Xxxxxx Xxxxxxxx (hahaha my dad and uncles) were Rastafarians; also because my brother, Mico, wore a full beard then. But we were and still are Christians.”
The single was released under the Xxxxxx Xxxxxxxx name on the Buster Wild Bells label. “People didn’t know whether to dance to it or listen to it. I felt good because I realized if there was that polarity of response to it, it must have been good.” Then, “a dance sort of just evolved from it. The Rastafarians would do a kind of spear dance to it, a jump and spearing action, sort of reminiscent of the tribal interpretation of social events In dance and music. And then the general partygoers would do a jump-and-kick dance to it, and at points they would hold hands together in a communal folksy form, in response to the music. Xxxxx’s (aka that piece of shit Orville Burrell) video has people doing the ‘wind’ and ska dance to it. While music does allow for freedom of interpretation and expression, the true dance to Xxxxxxxx’ is “The Xxxxxxxx Dance,’ such as I described to you. Xx Xxxxxxxx’ is not ska; neither is it calypso or rhythm and blues or boogie woogie or mento or rock ‘n’ roll. It is essentially an innovative heritage folksong done, ironically, by Xxxxxx. But it has echoes of some of the above. It was a party song, and it still is a party song. At Jamaican parties, the original is still being played too, to introduce the whole party and in the middle to introduce the old songs, and at the very end,” just as Island Records chose “Xx Xxxxxxxx” to begin and end their recent 4-cd Jamaican musical history box set Tougher Than Tough. Says Xxxxxx with a mixture of humility and wonder, “One gentleman said to me, Jamaica’s national anthem is ‘Xxxxxxxx.’ Though it’s an exaggeration, it just shows the extent to which it has sort of gotten itself rooted in the very fabric of Jamaican culture.”
How does he feel about his composition being referred to as the “first reggae record”? "

Oh I know what he thinks...he is, after all..my dad.

Eat crow now ***hole...if anyone's an embarrassment...its YOU. Yet another who thinks people here are losers like he is.

I hope you're choking on that popcorn a-hole!

edit
Just found this
Here... eat this a-hole!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEbwZbMDM2o

Hear that iconic voice at the 13 minute mark? here that song? THAT song is what changed th Jamaican music landscape.

As I said...the flip side is considered the beginnings of ska...a far less known song than the A side song.
The "Man" was Jesus that my dad was referring to on the B side incidentally, but no one really knew that
 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
Msg: 2902
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/26/2017 10:33:38 PM
Want some more dumbchesf?
"In 1960, Prince Buster (then a relative unknown who was working as a DJ and bouncer for Duke Reid) approached the legendary Rastafarian percussionist Count Ossie, who had established one of the first Rastafarian camps in Wareika Hill, to record for him. After much encouragement from Prince Buster that he would keep the essence of the Niyabinghi -style drumming intact on the recording, he booked Count Ossie and his drummers along with Owen Gray on piano and Ronnie Bop on bass drum into a small recording studio. Once there, Buster did handclaps and imitated horn riffs while The XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, a trio of teenagers, Miko, John and Junior, did the vocals capturing it in just two takes. Until this past week, it was the only recording the group ever did.

The result is arguably one of the most important records in Jamaican musical history and probably the most popular Jamaican dance oldie ever. According to Kevin O'Brien Chang the author of Reggae Routes: The Story of Jamaican Music:
"Early Jamaican recorded music was often just an attempt to duplicate American R&B songs. And the usual result was a third-rate copy on fourth-rate equipment of second-rate tunes sung in a quasi-American 'twang'. It's hardly an accident that not many pre-independence Jamaican tunes are played on the radio."
"But 'Xx Xxxxxxxx', whether by design or accident, contained distinctive elements not heard in any previous R&B copy. Count Ossie's drum group had the most to do with it, but the song's fresh sound wasn't just due to the drumming. What was original was the way the drums played off the other instruments and the singers' voices, trailing just a bit and almost play call and answer. Combining the energy of R&B with the hypnotic repetition of Rastafarian drumming, the throbbing beat was eminently danceable but not frenetic. If one song can be singled out as signifying the birth of reggae, Xx Xxxxxxxx' is it."

Want the source?
Google it your damn self ya lazy POS!

Now...ya wanna verify thats MY dad... well I AM the Canadian masters M45-50 high jump champion, so Im sure my name is easy to find...and you'll see Im the same last name from the same place as John, my dad.

And yes, when the royalties started flowing in... I was getting paid $10K/ week 'working' for my dads publishing company, in addition to my full time job as a Bell Canada 310-Bell operator outta the head Office back then at Trinity Square . I was 28 when I bought my first house and yeah my dad helped out big time and I had a salary that easily qualified me for a mortgage with the downpayment ..and, as I was initially telling GTO...how I afforded to build my beastly dirty stoked out stang.
Frank has been accusing me of lying about this... just like he things Im lying about who my sister is when I said I have someone who has high security clearances who assures me America and Canada are behind Russia in certain vital areas.

hey...was reggae the topic here? No? Well then you cant whine about me high jacking a high jacker...and it opened a doorr forme to take another stab BACK at Frank...who has gone dead silent in his accusations about me lying about my dad... which now YOu are also gonna have to eat crow on for assuming, like a fool, like Frank...that Im lying when Im clearly not.

Hahaha youre burned...and its all on your own head for fuking with me when you shouldnt have.

Hows that popcorn now? And go cut that hair...youre no rasta...youre a trendy shitass, and only have those locks because you're a wannabe.
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 2903
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 7:24:52 AM

I was 28 when I bought my first house and yeah my dad helped out big time and I had a salary that easily qualified me for a mortgage with the downpayment ..and, as I was initially telling GTO...how I afforded to build my beastly dirty stoked out stang.

Frank has been accusing me of lying about this... just like he things Im lying about who my sister is when I said I have someone who has high security clearances who assures me America and Canada are behind Russia in certain vital areas.


Why did you left out the part that where you had to beg people online to replace a stolen bicycle?
 funchesf
Joined: 6/27/2014
Msg: 2904
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 7:41:14 AM

Posted By: tablata
I get you resent my pointing this out, and I certainly do not claim that most black people have these despicable attributes

yep, Black People caused the Holocaust and history blamed the Nazi(s) because they wouldn't allow foreigners to attend Oktoberfest


Posted By: tablata
Jews have their crooks no doubt..

are you making a confession? ...


Posted By: tablata
If it is racist to bring up these issues, so be it.

actually it's pathetic and expected ....you're trying to place a negative focus on Blacks and Jews to deflect from (post 2895) where I pointed out how you're always "cowering down" to RenissanceMan68 ....it's where you turned "apse kissing" into an art form


Posted By: RenissanceMan68
You know...all it takes is ONE link to wikipedia to shut you down and shut you up

but yet you post nearly an entire page of dribble without one link to the Jamaican Government crowning your Father as the founder of Reggae? ...can you now understand why I "sorta kinda" think either you're a pathological liar or your Father pathologically lied to you or you're pathological delusional or all of the above ...

so can please provide the video link so I can finally watch it .....I can't keep reheating this popcorn and the beer already went flat

tick tock tick tock ....this is so embarrassing
 tablata
Joined: 7/11/2017
Msg: 2905
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 7:51:49 AM
^^^^^^

but yet you post nearly an entire page of dribble without one link to the Jamaican Government crowning your Father as the founder of Reggae? ...can you now understand why I "sorta kinda" think either you're a pathological liar or your Father pathologically lied to you or you're pathological delusional or all of the above ...


Funchesf, usually you keep your cool and just humorously babble on incoherently. Sometimes you lose your temper though...like in this latest post of yours. Look, just because RM bested you in the wit department doesn't call for your getting angry. Just try to be better next time. The babbling doll depends on it.

As for me....don't ignore the context of my bringing up inner city blacks. Dee is a disgusting individual and admitted she blames the Jews for everything...even for Apartheid in South Africa. . . there was that post of hers where she talked about "baked jews" in the holocaust...never apologizing, and then there was her latest its understandable how Jews have been killed throughout history because they are so arrogant...just like you are Tablata shtick. When faced with an utter piece of crap like Dee....who is clearly a gutter dweller, you don't think I have the right to respond?

Then there is your mocking, although yours was far more gentle...you know making fun of circumcision and than angrily intimating that Voodoo is no worse than other religions (actually..you made a good point)........

So you can't look at posts in isolation.
 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
Msg: 2906
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 8:21:14 AM

Why did you left out the part that where you had to beg people online to replace a stolen bicycle?

Beg?
hahaha naw...instead of going out and destroying the guy who stole it, at the suggestion of my friends, I started a Go Fund me account. You need me to explain all this AGAIN Frank?
Sure, as long as we all not really WHY I am.
I was working full time in the Motors midnights but attending college full time at the same time. I had recently bought that Look, and a whole bunch of toys I had specifically budgeted myself for.
Tell me Frank...how much did that go fund me generate?
I told you what bike a bought...whats that bike retail for?
The same amount as that go fund me total? Or maybe a lot more?
Yeah, dont worry about MY finances pal... they arent the issue here and only come up because youree a cyber stalking creep. Why were you looking into me in the first place Frank?
To see if I was lying, right? About what?
My bike?
or was it maybe shit like who somee of my family members are.
Havent addessed that tho, have you.

NEXT

but yet you post nearly an entire page of dribble without one link to the Jamaican Government crowning your Father as the founder of Reggae? ...can you now understand why I "sorta kinda" think either you're a pathological liar or your Father pathologically lied to you or you're pathological delusional or all of the above ...

READ the dribble... theres enough for you to go on to do your own damn research for yourself.

A video link...to what? a video of my dad receiving that recognition? No such video exists. He received the accolade back in the 80's, sorry. He has it framed at his house somewhere, and stuffed in a box.
I already posted a video. Did you hear that song...that VOICE? Thats my dads voice. What were they saying about that song in that video?

Whyn provide anything more? Ive provided you with plenty. And it doesnt matter...youll duck, dodge, deny, or ask for shit that simply has never existed to weasel your way out of your error.

Go ahead, tell me my father ISNT the guy who is considered the 'reggae mahn'.
Any historian...musicologist...would they say ANY song by Marley was the foundation of Reggae, or call any of HIS songs the unofficial anthem of J.A.?

Maybe youre just too stupid to admit defeat and concede to the fact that you fuked up and barked up the wrong tree.
Go cut those dreds you have no right or business wearing them. Frank might as well wear a turban!
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 2907
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 8:26:50 AM

Beg?




My babies were stolen!
They were locked together on my porch and stolen right out from under our noses in the moddle of the night.
I am lost with out my bikes, especially the one in the picture. There is no way I will be able to replace it for a LONG time....this was my dream bike, and...its gone.

Ive already had so much stolen from me in my life and in the last year, and Im literally going nutsbwith frustration...asmI trynto look forward. I have forgiven who has done this and if they brought my bike back Id be so happy Id hug them anyways.

I see funds to help pets, and Im a pet lover...so maybe others who love their bikes who UNDERSTAND what its like to lose your steed, can help me out. Lol 1300 $1.00 donations would do it!

Thanks and God bless any who can help me!
 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
Msg: 2908
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 9:08:37 AM
hahah you call that begging?
I know Frank...it must hurt to see I have friends that do shit yours would NEVER do for you.

Hey Frank... can you post me the lyrics to my dads song while youre digging shit up about me?
Thanks!

Tell me...how much did that Go Fund Me generate?
How much does a Cannondale Lefty F29er Carbon 3 go for Frank?
About $4 G.
Keep that in mind eh
Nice try Frank. None of this addresses all the shit you claim Im lying about.
Did I ever mention anything here EVER about that go fund me?
Or was that something YOU dragged in as you started cyber stalking me?
What were you looking for Frank?
Hm?
WHY?
Youre an obsessed creep. Possibly a closet homosexual. Possibly a rapist and pedophile. Im sure the RCMP is aware of you because they have had reason to.

Ive answered you over and over about that go fund me...even changed my profile pic when you claimed I probably never even owned the bike I said was stolen... so why cant YOU answer me back now?
Hm? who is my sister Frank. Wanna claim NOW that Im claiming false relations to SOMEONE WHO EXISTS?
And my dad Frank...who is he? Hm? Youd verify real quick how Orville Burrell lead to all those royalties and that $180/K salary I made in '97.... which lead to that 347 stroked out Pony I was telling GTO about.
 tablata
Joined: 7/11/2017
Msg: 2909
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 9:10:51 AM
^^^^ Holy cow..... Frank actually looked up your Go-Fund-Me page. Wow he really is a stalking sik fuk, is he not?

In order to maintain the highest quality forums you are restricted to having no more then 2 of the last 10 posts on a thread.
Since 2 of the last 10 posts are yours you can not post to this thread.
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 2910
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 9:43:35 AM

hahah you call that begging?


What else can you call it?

When you ask people for money, that is called begging.

You can try and squirm as hard as you want and you can try will insults and accusations, but at the end of the say, you where begging online for people to give you money and that is an undisputable fact.




Tell me...how much did that Go Fund Me generate?
How much does a Cannondale Lefty F29er Carbon 3 go for Frank?
About $4 G.


Well according to you it was $10K and there were only a handful in Canada, so you going to try and change your story again?




Youre an obsessed creep. Possibly a closet homosexual. Possibly a rapist and pedophile. Im sure the RCMP is aware of you because they have had reason to.


Typical behavior, as when liars get caught the first thing they will do is attack the person that exposed them.
 funchesf
Joined: 6/27/2014
Msg: 2911
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 10:50:42 AM

Posted By: tablata
Funchesf, usually you keep your cool

my name is Bond....Funches Bond ....I like me beer stirred not shaken Moneypenny


Posted By: tablata
just because RM bested you

do you even stop kissing RennaianceMan's apse?


Posted By: tablata
don't ignore the context of my bringing up inner city blacks

yep, inner city black people killed 70 million Native Americans and place the rest on Reservations


Posted By: tablata
Dee is a disgusting individua

not disgusting....perhaps obnoxious...but not disgusting


Posted By: tablata
you don't think I have the right to respond?

no you don't have a right to respond... because the site banned you from posting here


Posted By: tablata
Then there is your mocking, although yours was far more gentle

are you flirting with me?


Posted By: RenissanceMan68
theres enough for you to go on to do your own damn research for yourself.

that's probably the same thing your Father said to you ....


Posted By: RenissanceMan68
He received the accolade back in the 80's, sorry. .

and yet it didn't make it to the News or the Internet or to the rest of humanity ....this is so embarrassing ....


Posted By: RenissanceMan68
He has it framed at his house somewhere, and stuffed in a box

is it stuffed in a McDonald's Happy Meal box?


Posted By: RenissanceMan68
]a video of my dad receiving that recognition? No such video exists

they have video of everyone but the one individual that "supposedly" originated Reggae your Father ..... I therefore rest my case .... this was so embarrassing
 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
Msg: 2912
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 11:05:15 AM

When you ask people for money, that is called begging.

People?
Oh yeah... I forgot...Im talking to Frank, who has no understanding of what a friend is. Naw...maybe thats a polite way for me to get back from everyone I have given to.
One friend put in $100. I built a fencee for her and installed hardwood floors thru her whole house, for free, plus I babysat her neborn for 3 weeks AND took care of her another week whne she had plastic surgery. Another that put in $50 had received 15 bags of groceries at christmas from me...another had received $250 in gift cards from me. Another once slept on my couch for 3 days.

As for thee 10K bike...that was the original bikes retail worth, you idiot.
And there is only a handful. Check with the manufacturer...which I bet yiu cant find out on the net.
Thats how you know my stolen bike is 100% legit. I have pics of the box it came in and people do NOT know who that manufacturer is.



Typical behavior, as when liars get caught the first thing they will do is attack the person that exposed them

hahahah what a dumbass. So...this is the first thing Ive done since youve caklled me a liar? No Frank...once again I question your motives...as have others... what kinda creep comes HERE to dig personal shit to throw in someones face? And a pretty wek one at that...mocking another persons loss from law breaking theives. And trying to use it to discredit me...why? Because you accused me of something and got burned.
You wanna talk about a go fund me account no one spoke of that you found thru being a cyber dreep, yet cant tell us how our discussion about Columbus went down, or finish your accusations about my so called family-tie lies. Well frank... you refuse to answer...so... yeah...since we cant get you to have the balls to investigate McLean...sure we can scrath that...but see.... we cant scratch your refusal to answer your other shit. Since I cant PROVE thru media about kirk, as feeble an excuse that is? Fine. Believe my claim is false...remembering that can change the second you make that call or get me on FB.
In the mean time...since you refuse to respond to your earlier allegations about me lying about my family, if we nix the McLean story on the basis of 'lack of media', we accept my statements about my family, since you literally refuse to address or respond.
So...let it be noted that my family bis indeed exactly who I said, and, like Bola, my boxer friend...is no lie. I bat 100% truth on all those, especially since you cant and wont respond. failure to do so means you agree, concur, and admit that I was telling the truth.

And since that IS the case...ist very highly likely that I am AGAIN telling the truth about McLean!

Youre only way out is for you to prove PFD isnt my sister and that JF is not my dad...which you cant, because they are.
Meaning...Im no liar.
Meaning...youre a cowardly ad hominem creating piece of shit. Which we all already know.
 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
Msg: 2913
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 11:20:33 AM


and yet it didn't make it to the News or the Internet or to the rest of humanity ....this is so embarrassing .

I dont know...have you looked?I know you'll find articles where it is mentioned...
Another one who thinks if old shit isnt in thee media it isnt true!
You must have CNN and FOX on your pre-prrogrammed list.


is it stuffed in a McDonald's Happy Meal box?

Naw...we never ate that shit. Maybe if you didnt your body fat content wouldnt be in the double digits.
Its in a box for a reason. As are all his degrees. He has a lot of those as well.
Didnt you check?


they have video of everyone but the one individual that "supposedly" originated Reggae your Father ..... I therefore rest my case
Oh yeah... just like media...if you cant find it, it doesnt exist.
Have you bothered to find out the name of my dad and the song in question? Start there. If a video of ground zero legends talking about my dads foundation song and what it did as its playing in th background isnt good enough for you already.

Whats so embarassing is that Ive given you plenty to go on and if it isnt what YOU want you claim its shit.
Wht, you think they video recorded the event? There wasnt even an event.
Nor does there need to be one. Youre obviously not Jamaican. Go find out the name of my dads song and ask your parents if you are Jamaican. Go to a Jamaican store or restaurant and say "Some guy claims "Xx Xxxxxxxx" is the first song ever in Jamaican music history and tell me what they say.

I get it tho... like WHO can actually come on HERE...POF...and make such an outrageous claim?
Me, thats who. Because Im the one person who actually can.
Wha...that piss you off? Sorry youre not the 'reggae mahn' any more fraud...the real deal is here now. Dont like that eh? Your bad luck bub. So much for you chastizing others about JA and their lack of knowledge...youve been proven to know shit, especially if you dont know my dads song and its significance.

You must be high as fuk to not know that song and claim to know ANYTHING about reggae.
Embarrassing indeed!
Embarrassing indeed. You call yourself knowledgeable in reggae...hell you have dreds...and dont know this song?
If you dont KNOW my dads song? You sure as fuk aint a yardie!
Cut those dreds you cosmetic fraud!
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 2914
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 11:24:15 AM

Oh yeah... I forgot...Im talking to Frank, who has no understanding of what a friend is. Naw...maybe thats a polite way for me to get back from everyone I have given to.


Yeah good point, because when you need to ask / beg your friends for money you would not call them, message them on FB or even email them, you start a public funding page.

It is like you are 2 years old and have yet to understand that people can see right through your lies.




And since that IS the case...ist very highly likely that I am AGAIN telling the truth about McLean!


Yes puddin, it is all true and no one will ever question your derp again.





Meaning...youre a cowardly ad hominem creating piece of shit. Which we all already know.


Are you more than one person?

Either way thanks for the quality irony, that was a good one.
 tablata
Joined: 7/11/2017
Msg: 2915
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 12:25:26 PM

yep, inner city black people killed 70 million Native Americans and place the rest on Reservations


You bring up another good point. The leftist trash here claims its religion that kills... but how many Native Americans died because of their Religion, and how many inner city blacks kill because of their religion?

Religion is not the problem. Killers are the problem. . . . usually atheists... which is usually what leftist trash consists of.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 2916
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 1:04:59 PM

You bring up another good point. The leftist trash here claims its religion that kills... but how many Native Americans died because of their Religion, and how many inner city blacks kill because of their religion?

There's a distinction between religion killing and those who hide behind the guise of religion to perpetrate their ill deeds. For instance, Native Americans died under the guise of religion as they were deemed to be heathens with the twist that, because they were deemed to be heathens, it gave the pious a right to what wasn't theirs and a right to kill to obtain it.

African Americans (per constant inner city examples given here) and Native Americans both are still struggling due to the ramifications and hold-over of the actions in American history where atrocities were perpetrated while the perpetrators were hiding behind the guise of religion.

By definition, heathen means: "a person who does not belong to a widely held religion (especially one who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim) as regarded by those who do". Although there is no tolerance by many of whatever religion for those who are not of their faith, they use it as an excuse to carry out their greed filled annihilation of those they deem to be heathens - case in point, Islamic groups **stardizing and hiding behind the current day fundamentals of their religion. To a different degree, religious America (particularly far right Liberals) hide behind their Christianity as a means to absolve themselves of their bigoted and racist actions that are more often than not greed based. For instance, attempts made to withhold funding that would assist giving a leg up to blacks and Indians (and others) because "if we give to thooooose people among us (who we originally put in their situations they are still dealing with today), it means we won't have as much to lavish upon our pious greedy selves."

If you're an atheist and you pull the same crap, there's really nothing to hide behind to absolve yourself...you just happen to be an unreligious scumbag like religious scumbags.
 tablata
Joined: 7/11/2017
Msg: 2917
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 1:17:14 PM
^^^^ I understand what you are saying, but I disagree. I copy the below from Indian Country . The man most responsible for the genocide of Native Americans was Andrew Jackson, a racist. Religion had little if anything to do with it. Gaining land at the expense of "heathens" was based on racism...which is much more likely to result in Genocide over the years, than Religion:



Andrew Jackson tops list of worst presidents for Natives
Gale Courey Toensing • February 20, 2017
Unlike the statement in Indian Country Media Network’s “Best Presidents for Indian country” story, it’s a bit easier identifying the “worst” presidents for Indian country. Five tend to stand out with the majority of the rest huddled together after that. Here are our nods to the presidents who did more harm than good for Native Americans while in office.

Andrew Jackson: A man nicknamed “Indian killer” and “Sharp Knife” surely deserves the top spot on a list of worst U.S. Presidents. Andrew Jackson “was a forceful proponent of Indian removal,” according to PBS. Others have a less genteel way of describing the seventh president of the United States.

“Andrew Jackson was a wealthy slave owner and infamous Indian killer, gaining the nickname ‘Sharp Knife’ from the Cherokee,” writes Amargi on the website Unsettling America: Decolonization in Theory & Practice. “He was also the founder of the Democratic Party, demonstrating that genocide against indigenous people is a nonpartisan issue. His first effort at Indian fighting was waging a war against the Creeks. President Jefferson had appointed him to appropriate Creek and Cherokee lands. In his brutal military campaigns against Indians, Andrew Jackson recommended that troops systematically kill Indian women and children after massacres in order to complete the extermination. The Creeks lost 23 million acres of land in southern Georgia and central Alabama, paving the way for cotton plantation slavery. His frontier warfare and subsequent ‘negotiations’ opened up much of the southeast U.S. to settler colonialism.”

Andrew Jackson was not only a genocidal maniac against the Indigenous Peoples of the southwest, he was also racist against African peoples and a scofflaw who “violated nearly every standard of justice,” according to historian Bertram Wyatt-Brown. As a major general in 1818, Andrew Jackson invaded Spanish Florida chasing fugitive slaves who had escaped with the intent of returning them to their “owners,” and sparked the First Seminole War. During the conflict, Jackson captured two British men, Alexander George Arbuthnot and Robert C. Ambrister, who were living among the Seminoles. The Seminoles had resisted Jackson’s invasion of their land. One of the men had written about his support for the Seminoles’ land and treaty rights in letters found on a boat. Andrew Jackson used the “evidence” to accuse the men of “inciting” the Seminoles to “savage warfare” against the U.S. He convened a “special court martial” tribunal then had the men executed. “His actions were a study in flagrant disobedience, gross inequality and premeditated ruthlessness… he swept through Florida, crushed the Indians, executed Arbuthnot and Ambrister, and violated nearly every standard of justice,” Wyatt-Brown wrote.


In 1830, a year after he became president, Jackson signed a law that he had proposed – the Indian Removal Act – which legalized ethnic cleansing. Within seven years 46,000 indigenous people were removed from their homelands east of the Mississippi. Their removal gave 25 million acres of land “to white settlement and to slavery,” according to PBS. The area was home to the Cherokee, Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw and Seminole nations. In the Trail of Tears alone, 4,000 Cherokee people died of cold, hunger, and disease on their way to the western lands.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 2918
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 1:30:19 PM
To that^^^, I give you this: "Andrew Jackson was the seventh president of the United States, serving from 1829 to 1837. Jackson was a Presbyterian; his faith, like the rest of his personality, drew more from the growing American frontier than from the traditionally wealthy and powerful Episcopalian and Congregationalist churches. Jackson's religious devotion emerges clearly in personal correspondence, especially with his wife. [...]" https://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/people/andrew-jackson
 funchesf
Joined: 6/27/2014
Msg: 2919
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 2:08:21 PM

Posted By: RenissanceMan68
I dont know...have you looked?

I've looked so hard that I've might have found where Amelia Earhart is or who actually shot JFK ....I even found The Lord Almighty and the location of Heaven.....but I found nothing about the Jamaican government officially deeming your Father as "The Reggae Mahn" ...this is so embarrassing


Posted By: RenissanceMan68
You must have CNN and FOX on your pre-prrogrammed list.

I've even checked PBS and the BBC ....do you think I should check the Sci-fi channel next? .....everything exist there


Posted By: RenissanceMan68
Naw...we never ate that shit

you don't have to eat the Happy Meal...some comes with fake documents that your Father can photoshop "The Reggae Mahn' on it


Posted By: RenissanceMan68
Its in a box for a reason

yep...it wouldn't be wise for your Father to keep forged documents out in the open


Posted By: RenissanceMan68
As are all his degrees

what's on his other degrees? ...that he's "The Heavy Metal Mahn" ...The Punk Rock Mahn" ....The Beer Barrel Polka Mahn"


Posted By: RenissanceMan68
Have you bothered to find out the name of my dad and the song in question?

so far you haven't proved that you even know ...this is so embarrassing ..


Posted By: tablata
but how many Native Americans died because of their Religion,

Native American were called "Heathen" and between 70-100 million of them were wiped out by Christians.... not by Muslims


Posted By: tablata
and how many inner city blacks kill because of their religion?

clearly not 70-100 million


Posted By: tablata
Religion is not the problem.

name one Major War fought in the name of Atheism


Posted By: tablata
Killers are the problem

what you're here in the forums doing can get people killed...that's why the site keeps kicking you off .... so do you consider yourself a Killer? ...is that the reason you're here?
 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
Msg: 2920
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 5:26:17 PM

I've looked so hard

Look harder. If you want ME to give you all the info? Sure. Provide me HERE with your full name, first and last, first.
Otherwise do your own homework. Others have been given less than you and came up with more.
Your research skills must truly suck. Or youre a liar. Take your pick.


I found nothing about the Jamaican government officially deeming your Father as "The Reggae Mahn"

I dont think such a title exists...outside of your cracked dome.
Tell me...what song what artist WOULD the J.A. government give that accolade to?
You really cant tell me the all time old time every time number one sound?
You seem hell bent on finding the only shit you know will be hard to find...considering its JA media from the 80's youre attempting to find. Its not just a matter of a piece of paper...this is something every musicologist who has any knowledge of reggae, and ANY Yardie, esp old school yardies would know.

Embarrassing is your inability to find out whats commonly known...to Jamaicans.
Obviously youre not one of us, and are nothing but a FRAUD.

Cut those locks poser!!

Do you even KNOW who Cecil Campbell is?
Ignorance. Most embarrassing...for you.
get that popcorn grease off your grubby fingers and get to work!
 tablata
Joined: 7/11/2017
Msg: 2921
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 6:12:05 PM
Have you noticed RM that most people, even other leftists. Ignore Frank? He is a man bereft of love or friends. Perhaps we all should ignore him.

 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
Msg: 2922
Muslim in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 6:36:06 PM
^^^^Ive noticed tab.... apparently he has not, hes that delusional.

I like keeping him around... hes a useful example. And I like watching him squirm. Notice how he dodges me when I ask him what he found out my fam and if I was lying? I get to expose, and toss around, a low life POS.
Its like playing kick the can lol

lll ignore him...once he answers my questions. He wont because not only cant he, he knows he will be ignored once his accusations are debunked. Hes an attention whore because he has no life.
Look at how much time he spends here. He's here all day, every day.

And... hes a COWARD!
 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
Msg: 2923
Fraud dreds in America
Posted: 7/27/2017 11:52:11 PM


-and yet it didn't make it to the News or the Internet or to the rest of humanity ....this is so embarrassing ....
-I've looked so hard ...
-I've even checked PBS and the BBC
-so far you haven't proved that you even know ...this is so embarrassing ..
-it's simple .....unless you can provide a link that Reggae is your Father and not a style of music then it's an indication that your Father been lying to you or you been lying to the forum ..... this is so embarrassing
-apparently the Jamaican Government forgot to mention this to the Jamaican people, The Internet and the rest of Humanity... again this must be so embarrassing for you .....that's why you should make haste in providing that link to your Father's Lie...oops..er..I meant his claim

I wont post ALL your bullshit stunchesf, I think this is enough>
Now...you want that link? I have it for you.
Fair trade:
either msg me privately for the info...or simply provide me HERE with your first and last name. Once I verify its YOU then you can have this info, esp since it details personal info -my family name- that I will share if you share yours.

Otherwise, get off your ass and find the info. I did, you can also.
What you will find is this:
"The group's 1961 single "Xx Xxxxxxxx" was the first hit record produced by Prince Buster, and is regarded as a landmark in the history of ska and reggae music. John Xxxxxx, the author of the song, received a certificate from the Jamaican Government dated 1984, which recognized "Xx Xxxxxxxx" as the first-ever reggae song."
https://alchetron.com/findtherestyourdamnselffakerasta

This is sooo embarrassing...for YOU.
Fuktard!
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 2924
Fraud dreds in America
Posted: 7/28/2017 7:25:43 AM

I like keeping him around... hes a useful example. And I like watching him squirm. Notice how he dodges me when I ask him what he found out my fam and if I was lying?


Notice how you keep deflecting to unrelated derp when I expose you as a con artist and a liar?

You are nothing new and your tactics are as old as the hills.

The best thing is, I do not have to do anything, because derps like you self destruct in due time as it all catches up.
 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
Msg: 2925
Fraud dreds in America
Posted: 7/28/2017 8:20:06 AM

Notice how you keep deflecting to unrelated derp when I expose you as a con artist and a liar?

(lol this guy still says derp hahaha)
Tell me Frank...name me ONE thing youve said or brought up that Ive deflected from? I address ALL your shit...
Con artist? What con?
Talk about deflecting. You claim Im a con man because of a Go Fund me account?
I claim youre gay because youre obsessed with me. Betya Im closer to the truth than you are hahahahaha

Keep deflecting huh?

Tell me Frank...who is my sister?
What does she do for a living?
Whats her job title?
If you can find a Go Fund me account in my name you can find out who she is.
Same with my dad.
Is he or is he NOT the founder and officially recognized first reggae artist in history?
Yes or no Frank?
Are there two black people with the same last name as mine, from the same city as me, who look just like me who are the head of Acquisitions and Procurements?
Who wrote and sang the pioneer song of the reggae genre?
What...gonna claim Im claiming to be related to these 'strangers'?
If you have my last name from my Go Fund me, you can tell me if its the same surname as the people I claim are my family.
Am I lying Frank?
Hm?
Why cant you answer that?

While Im here..
Wheres dumbchesf?
As Orville B would say, in infringement:
Bumba raas, bumba claaat

Hey stunnedchesf!
Youve been with the wrong Orville! Try Burrell, not Reddinbocker! You might get closer to the TRUTH that way.
A pure pleasure this has been indeed...schooling fake assed dreds talking in here like they are some J.A. reggae guru know-it-all.
How...em-bare-ass-ing.
Pull up, your lil pee pee is showing hahahahaa
Buddy, you dont know SHIT!
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