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 congupnaroad
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MSG 886

McAfee must have somehow knew the identity of the shooter before the mainstream media did. They have now reported that he was a Pastor and a troubled one at that. Oddly enough though if an outspoken atheist had of committed a crime like that I'm sure McAfee's response would have been "silence".

Anyway did you wag School again? Missing so much of 2nd Grade does not augur well for your budding career as an Internet Troll. At your tender age you are missing vital lessons on how to construct a coherent paragraph, which at present eludes you and the result is no one really knows what the fvck you are talking about.

MSG 894

The Troll definitely crossed the line with that one.
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
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Posted: 4/11/2017 1:44:13 PM

Oddly enough though if an outspoken atheist had of committed a crime like that I'm sure McAfee's response would have been "silence".


So you are saying you did not go to the link, cause if you had you would has seen the part where he talks about how the right wing media went nuts over a guy that killed 3 muslim students who happened to be an atheist and how the media attempted to draw a line between him being an atheist and the killings.

So congratulations on your fail.
 congupnaroad
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Posted: 4/11/2017 2:19:07 PM
MSG 901

Now you are bringing up an incident that you never even originally posted anything about and implying that because I didn't comment on it I agreed with what the right wing media said about it (which is incorrect).

That is a STRAWMAN.

Congratulations on racking up another epic failure!
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 904
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Posted: 4/11/2017 2:30:49 PM

MSG 901


Why are you responding to yourself?




Now you are bringing up an incident that you never even originally posted anything about and implying that because I didn't comment on it I agreed with what the right wing media said about it (which is incorrect).



Your words: "...Oddly enough though if an outspoken atheist had of committed a crime like that I'm sure McAfee's response would have been "silence".

Yet his article speaks directly to that and addresses that very point so congratulations on your fail.
 _mungojoe_
Joined: 10/1/2014
Msg: 905
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Posted: 4/11/2017 2:40:58 PM

Case and point right there.

Ummm... the term is "case in point"... although... I can see how you might mistake that for "case 'n' point"...

That's not to say... I can see how "anyone" could make that mistake... just you...

And really... if you want to be thought of as a "renaissance man"... wouldn't it be helpful to start with... actually spelling the word correctly... Kind of reminds me of that old joke... "Yesterday I couldn't even spell 'manager', today I are one."...
 congupnaroad
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Posted: 4/11/2017 5:23:14 PM
MSG 904

Jeepers! You missed the point again! When you reach High School (which is doubtful) however if you do you might at some point learn the difference between a Hate Crime and a Crime of Passion.You really should keep away from those patheos blogs, because they come up with the nuttiest things. Anyway.

(Psst! I won't mention your Epic Belt Buckle Failure!).
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
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Posted: 4/11/2017 6:08:55 PM

Jeepers! You missed the point again! When you reach High School (which is doubtful) however if you do you might at some point learn the difference between a Hate Crime and a Crime of Passion.


In related news, if you ever get there, you might learn how to write a grammatically correct sentence.





(Psst! I won't mention your Epic Belt Buckle Failure!).


Great and I won’t have to point out that:


a) In the 1920s, Hitler’s German Workers’ Party (pre Nazi term) adopted a "Programme" with twenty-five points (the Nazi version of a constitution). In point twenty-four, their intent clearly demonstrates, from the very beginning, their stand in favor of a "positive" Christianity: "We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the morality and moral sense of the German race. The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession..."

b) The Nazi regime started a youth movement which preached its agenda to impressionable children. Hitler backed up the notion that all people need faith and religious education: "By helping to raise man above the level of bestial vegetation, faith contributes in reality to the securing and safeguarding of his existence. Take away from present-day mankind its education-based, religious- dogmatic principles-- or, practically speaking, ethical-moral principles-- by abolishing this religious education, but without replacing it by an equivalent, and the result will be a grave shock to the foundations of their existence." – Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

c) The Nazi regime began to control schools insisting that Christianity was taught.

d) The Nazi regime included anti-Semitic Christian writings in textbooks and they were not removed from Christian doctrines until 1961.

e) The Nazi regime having full blown power over the people began to forcibly convert all its military.

f) The Nazi regime forced the German soldiers to wear religious symbols such as the swastika and they placed religious sayings on military gear. An example here is this German army belt buckle (I believe my Opa had one) which reads "Gott Mit Uns". For those of you who do not speak German it is translated as "God With Us".

g) The German troops were often forced to get sprinkled with holy water and listen to a sermon by a Catholic priest before going out on a maneuver.

h) The Nazis created a secret service called the "SS Reich" that would act as spies on the dealings of other citizens. If anyone was suspected of heresy (Going not only against the Socialist party but CHURCH DOCTRINE) they would be prosecuted.


http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/religion/christianity/hitler.shtml
 forumslady
Joined: 12/7/2016
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Posted: 4/11/2017 9:20:23 PM
congupnaroad-

"Jeepers! You missed the point again! When you reach High School (which is doubtful) however if you do you might at some point learn the difference between a Hate Crime and a Crime of Passion.You really should keep away from those patheos blogs, because they come up with the nuttiest things. Anyway."

If we are going to be technical, as far as law, you are correct, there is a difference.

A hate crime, under the law, is one where an individual is targeted for violence that is covered by hate crime legislation.
These are: Sexual orientation, religion and race. (anyone who knows of another protected category is welcome to inform me)
A crime of passion, under the law, has to do with interpersonal relationships:
Murder and/or assault because of the break up of a marriage and/or relationship, or protecting someone who is attacked due to the undoing of a relationship/marriage.

These things were made separate by people with an opinion and these people had the power to separate them, under the law.

Things CAN become law that are based on opinion, rather than fact.

This thread is about Muslims.

Surely you can see the division of opinion here??

The law, for now, separates hate from passion.

Try to tell me with a straight face it should.

Try to tell me there is NO passion involved with hate.

We can legislate that the two are different from now until the end of time.
History and current events tell us they are NOT all that different.
 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
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Posted: 4/12/2017 12:15:26 AM

That is correct.

Correct indeed...add racist to that list.

I see you deleted another post and may have missed my other question, so I will post here for you.

Wondering if you have ever heard of someone know as Glenn Whitter

First of all, wait for an answer to your question in the thread it was asked in (keeping in mind its a retarded question and has nothing to do with ANY topic). Secondly, whu the **** would I know this guy? Because I worked in the same field? I worked for an American xompany dealing wirh ONLY American customers....was he?
Youre in BC right? So by your logic I can assume youve heard of Kirk Maclean? Hes in BC. Ask him how I kicked his ass.
Maybe you know ouija as well since youre in BC? Ever heard of Rob Acton? Hes out there. People here are looking for him for support money owed. Maybe you know Bill Johnston? Hes from North Van....maybe hes one of your buddies?

****ing railroading idiot
 drinkthesunwithmyface
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Posted: 4/12/2017 3:43:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjSjpNe1-Vc

I personally know three people, from mexico, who have went through the process of becoming legal since Trump was elected. What struck me was how easy it was for them to do it once they decided to. Why hadn't they bothered until now, I wondered. Why can't they respect the nation that they're coming to and loving being in? As I understand it, hopefully correctly, America is one of the easier places to get into and legally become a citizen of. So if people want so much to be here, why can't they at least do this already, and feel a genuine respect for this place?
 Kj521
Joined: 11/16/2016
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Posted: 4/12/2017 3:50:18 AM
^^^^Fear is a powerful motivator both in remaining illegal and in seeking citizenship.



vvvvvv There could be many reasons. One would need to look at the individual reasons one seeks leave their country....and a whole host of other factors that influence their decisions.
 drinkthesunwithmyface
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Posted: 4/12/2017 3:54:56 AM
A serious question, I've never tried to know all about this: What fear would compel someone to remain illegal? (Of being found out that they're illegal? I thought that they had a chance for a while now to fix that situation.)
 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
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Posted: 4/12/2017 4:08:14 AM
Muslims have no intentions of coming here illegally. Au contraire, they WANT to be here legally. They want to have 14 people and 4 generations living in one house.. so they can save, buy 4 more houses, and with their other friends who move into an area... start building mosques, and sticking signs on their lawns to elect people whos names we cant pronounce to city council spots.

Muslims will come here legally and will multiply and take you over.
Remember... without its hispanic and other POC input? White America has failed to reproduce sufficiently and now faces a cultural extermination.

I can tell no one watched that link I posted...only someone very stupid could watch that piece and not comment about it.

Meh, the writings on the wall, for those who care to read it. Those who dont? Can keep their heads hooped in their butts for all I care.
Theres always gonna be sheeple
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
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Posted: 4/12/2017 4:58:11 AM
That is the self hatred,death wish, masochism.

They must feel that they need to end. Several in here contributed to that by remaining advocates for their demise. The white rhino didn't even volunteer its demise by welcoming poachers and other predators.

To compare it to other immigrants is disingenuous. At least I choose to believe that they are acting and not that unaware of reality.
 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
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Posted: 4/12/2017 6:17:17 AM

To compare it to other immigrants is disingenuous.

Kinda like comparing pineapples to hand grenades
(sorry that was kinda slick! lol)

Proof is in what America is supposed be. A melting pot. Muslims dont melt in they jump in and multiply til they push out whatever was in the pot.
Masochism? The long term side effects of colonialism.
The white rhino... never has unaccounted for shit to own up to either.
 Jo van
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Posted: 4/12/2017 6:24:54 AM

Muslims have no intentions of coming here illegally. Au contraire, they WANT to be here legally. They want to have 14 people and 4 generations living in one house.. so they can save, buy 4 more houses, and with their other friends who move into an area... start building mosques, and sticking signs on their lawns to elect people whos names we cant pronounce to city council spots.

"Muslim" isn't a "race", it's a religion. Just a st of ideas/beliefs.
You could substitute the name of any other group/nationality, and the same thing has been said forever, by "xenophobes", or people who appease their own feelings of insecurity about themselves, with the 'salve' of "identity".

How do you "identify" RM?
"Black"? "Black American"? "African American"? "Afro-Caribbean"?
Do you have[/] to have a "group/tribe"?
And who ascribes that? You?
Or others who simply look at you?
And what does that "identity" "say". About you?
Are you happy with other people's "stereotypes", which they ascribe to you, simply by looking at you?
Are you a stereotype too?

The problem with any racial/"tribal" categorisations are the spoken or unspoken "stereotypes" which inevitably accompany them.
There are always "choices", of course. Self-ascribed "stereotypes" tend to be favourable, naturally.
They ignore the obvious examples of multiple deviations from that, as "anomalies".
Other groups will take the very worst examples as "typical", and use those to "define" some "out-group".
As you seem to be doing.



Muslims will come here legally and will multiply and take you over.
Remember... without its hispanic and other POC input? White America has failed to reproduce sufficiently and now faces a cultural extermination.

There used to be a little "white supremacist here", ( there are probably still a few, but they keep quiet about it, because laughter hurts)
He could have written that.
Do you believe in "racial purity"? Do you believe that "mixed marriages" are somehow "wrong"?
ALL "cultures" face extermination.
It's called progress/change.
You sound like a "conservative".
The "culture" I grew up in is gone, so has the one you grew up in.
The "conservative" obsession with opposing change is futile, and I'll-thought-through.
You might just as well protest about aging.

IMO the problem's religions, not just one of them.

Theres always gonna be sheeple

No offence mate, but I haven't seen anything but "group-think" in this post.

Which brings me to this typically dishonest "Zionist" "spin":
(Foolishly posted in the wrong thread, but I'll answer it here, where it 'belongs'.)

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/northamptonseminar/2016/05/12/did-israel-steal-land-68-years-ago/

Did Israel steal land 68 years ago?
May 12, 2016 by Gerald McDermott
Sixty-eight years ago today, the modern state of Israel was born. The tiny nation, surrounded by enemies on all sides, declared her independence.
But some today claim this was an act of theft. They say Jews stole land from the Palestinians, the rightful owners.
When critics accuse Israel of theft, they often say there was no attempt in 1948 to create two states, one for Jews and one for Arabs.
Is that true? Was there no attempt to create two states then?

This completely ignores the preceding 48 years of the century, during which time Palestinian Arabs had objected to mass immigration, and after 1917, and the "Balfour Declaration", which stated the intent of the British government to establish a "Jewish State".
There had been many uprisings by Arabs, throughout the '20s, '30s, and '40s, which had been crushed by their British colonial overlords.

When the UN (and Britain) "partitioned" the land, they were "giving" land to the new state of "Israel", which wasn't theirs to give.
But if the surviving "Jews" had asked for everyone called "Kevin" to hop on one leg, and all cats to be dyed green, the UN would have made it happen in 1947!
-Such was the horror and "collective guilt", of the whole world, when the scale of nazi atrocities were finally revealed
The "zionists" knew this, and ruthlessly and cynically exploited it, to realise their theological fantasies, which began long before WWI.

Of course the Palestinians rejected the "two state" partition.
They already had one state and it belonged to them.
The British had "promised" it, in return for their assistance in defeating the Ottermans, but simultaneously, and privately, promised "zionists" to grant their wishes.
The British shat on them.
Why should they agree to give away more than half their land, to immigrants?

It also ignore the systematic demolition of Arab villages.
700,000 arabs were driven from their homes, in 1948
In 1949, 700,000 new "Jewish" "settlers" arrived, and many were simply given those lands or homes.

That's as much as I can be bothered to write.
Anyone who is interested can do their own research.

There's a very good and succinct summary, if you google "Jews Against the Occupation", with documented facts. ("JATO") And many citations of additional reading.
Or listen to any of the excellent talks by Milo Peled on YouTube. ( google "The General's Son". He was born in "Israel", the son of one of its earliest top generals, and know far more about it than Marilyn. )
Or just use wiki.
It's all out there.
The establishment of "Israel", by the western powers, was a massive cluster-Fvck, IMO.
Sometime, sooner or later, that will have to be faced.

Of course Marilyn can't call all those eminent "Jewish" historians, philosophers, scientists and critical thinkers, who also are fervently "anti-Zionist",
"anti-semites", so instead she'll say they're "self-hating", or just mad.

But I very much doubt that someone like Noam Chomsky would ever appear on this forum, with a name like "CrazyMarilyn"
So I'll leave you to decide the likelihood of "craziness", based on what you see.
Have a nice Wednesday
 congupnaroad
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Posted: 4/12/2017 7:07:06 AM
MSG 904

What exactly is your point pulling out the Hitler card?

MSG 908

I agree, however hate crimes are usually pre-meditated and crimes of passion are often not.Like when a husband comes home and finds another bloke shagging his wife, loses the plot and kills him. However the latter's crime as defined by the law is more defensible than the nutter that plans and targets a particular group of people simply for whatever reason he hates them.
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
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Posted: 4/12/2017 7:11:29 AM

Proof is in what America is supposed be. A melting pot. Muslims dont melt in they jump in and multiply til they push out whatever was in the pot.


A melting pot???? Is that what America WAS before those damn Muslims entered the picture????? Is that WHAT made America great?????

I honestly believe a few of you should go back and look at the history of your country, and the pain it has gone thru to get to today. That "melting" that has happened in the past didn't happen overnight. In fact, the "melting" continues today but, because of those damn Muslims, you have a new ingredient to add to the pot. But, you are still debating if this ingredient can mix "well" with all those other ingredients that have been added beforehand.

In other words, your debating, again, about something that has been debated since you have become a "country" called America.
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
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Posted: 4/12/2017 7:58:33 AM

Correct indeed...add racist to that list.


Well I don't keep lists, but no worries, I already knew you where one.
 ThroatLozenge
Joined: 3/2/2016
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Posted: 4/12/2017 8:09:40 AM
Anybody know if AncestryDNA shares DNA results with the Feds?
 _babblefish
Joined: 9/23/2011
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Posted: 4/12/2017 8:20:26 AM

Anybody know if AncestryDNA shares DNA results with the Feds?


keeping specifics on an individual that has little scientific backing and is the
equivalent of genetic astrology sounds like something your feds would do, very reagan-ish
 Jo van
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Posted: 4/12/2017 8:21:36 AM


Anybody know if AncestryDNA shares DNA results with the Feds?


I know that the so-called "native Americans" share DNA with Siberians.
But it's ok., I think most of the Fed's are "New-Earthers", so they just won't believe it....
 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
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Posted: 4/12/2017 8:23:28 AM


"Muslim" isn't a "race", it's a religion. Just a st of ideas/beliefs.
You could substitute the name of any other group/nationality, and the same thing has been said forever, by "xenophobes", or people who appease their own feelings of insecurity about themselves, with the 'salve' of "identity".


Nice straw man. Where the hell did I say or even imply that 'Muslim' is a race? Ove said the opposite somewhere way back. Nor is any anti muslim shit xenophobia as 'Muslim' isnt a Nationality either...the term is Islamophobic.
Is Islamaphobia an unjustified paranoia?
"We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, without conquest—will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades."
When words like these are uttered, I would suggest its a valid concern. Especially when you understand the religion and realize they are all jihadists, as indicated by my example



How do you "identify" RM?
"Black"? "Black American"? "African American"? "Afro-Caribbean"?
Do you have[/] to have a "group/tribe"?
And who ascribes that? You?
Or others who simply look at you?
And what does that "identity" "say". About you?
Are you happy with other people's "stereotypes", which they ascribe to you, simply by looking at you?
Are you a stereotype too?


Ah, I see, turn it on me, and not the points I make.
I dont identify myself as anything other than human, thanks.




The problem with any racial/"tribal" categorisations are the spoken or unspoken "stereotypes" which inevitably accompany them.

Yeah, but when a stereotype fits the vast majority, its no longer an unfair bias. As O sais, ALL Muslims are jihadists. As such, hey will never fit in America. Thats not being biased, thats FACT. Proof? Europe. Like you act like its not already happening for is to not CLEARLY see the writing on the wall.



ALL "cultures" face extermination.
It's called progress/change.
You sound like a "conservative"..
If tjis is true... America sbould just roll over. Their time is up. They destroyed other cultures in creating America, so I guess they are reaping what theyve sown. Fine by me. Hahahaha I sound like a conservative? You sound like a straw man making joker.



No offence mate, but I haven't seen anything but "group-think" in this post
No offence dude, but IF youre one of the sheeple, what makes you think youd see it? Hahahaha oh boy...



That's as much as I can be bothered to write.
Yeah bud, sorry you wrote all that 'anti Zionist' nonsense for nothing.
Actually, thanks for saying that. YOU can make such 'legit' claims about 'shitty assed jews' but I cant about 'shitty assed Muslims'?

Im xenophobic and youre not? Next thing youll be telling me Jew IS a race hahahaha its a shitty assed religion like Islam. Sorry but...fu©k them both. And how many have been murdered and faces genocide in the name of Jesus?

Religion sucks man, its always an excuse to kill the shit outta the next guy, and has shit to actually do with God. Execpt with Islam, wiping out your enemy is a common, main, and never ending goal and purpose of Islam. They dont care if you convert. They will wipe you out. Preferably peacefully.

If this is just a natural phenom? Fine!
Bye bye America! You apple pie, baseball, hot dogs and Chevy trucks, your NASCAR, your so called culture...is on its last legs. Enjoy your shit while you can...your grand children and great grand children will all be eating halal, or roadkill and dirt!
Soon youll find a Koran in their school books hahahaha

Next


I already knew you where one.

How predictable.
Exactly what racist ©unts say. Sorry di©kweed, racism isnt like farting. He who smells it isnt he who dealt it. Your unnecessary attempted racist snide about 'lazy African' slaves was completely irrelevant, out of line, and drew the racist out in you like puss.
Everyone already knows what a piece of shit you see. All you do is keep proving it.
Youre a fine representation of your kind, thats at least accurate.

Sigh...Im not even mad at you. Youre... pathetic.
Its a shame people like you exist.
 _babblefish
Joined: 9/23/2011
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Posted: 4/12/2017 8:37:06 AM


Nice straw man. Where the hell did I say or even imply that 'Muslim' is a race?


actually you little xenophobe, you did, cuz i was gonna comment on that point yesterday ( gawd, your dory remembery skills are as bad as chucks)
 ThroatLozenge
Joined: 3/2/2016
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Posted: 4/12/2017 8:39:56 AM
Still shagging the stewardess with hair extensions?
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