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 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 1001
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To the religious.

May your fasting be spiritual and ultimately uplifting.
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 1002
Muslim in America are not a threat
Posted: 4/14/2017 12:42:33 PM
To the non religious.


A good friday with dad

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 congupnaroad
Joined: 7/22/2015
Msg: 1003
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Muslim in America are not a threat
Posted: 4/14/2017 1:32:34 PM

Happy to Becky.

T h e i d e a o f a s s i m i l a t i o n i n i n h e r e n t l y a n t i - r e l i g i o u s , s o t o c a l l o u t m u s l i m s a n d n o t a l l o t h e r f a i t h s i s d i s i n g e n u o u s a t b e s t


Aw Franky, you sound upset, would you like a hanky, tissue maybe? Anyway as you spend 24/7 in your Mum's basement you would be Vitamin D deficient and that condition lends itself to turning people into raving lunatics.

Anyway in most countries irreligious and religious people live in harmony. Which throws your derp about assimilation being anti-religious right out the window.




I am not defending them I am equating them, same derp different wizard


And you failed, which of course is no surprise.



I must ask, why do you capitalist muslim?

I didn't capitalist anything****ad, the proper term is capitalise.

Is English your native language?


Is that really suppose to be an insult?

Calling someone gay is the same as calling someone left-handed


How come you didn't capitalise Gay? Using your logic you are failing to acknowledge your own existence.

You really need to work on your stuff, it is rather juvenile, it might play with your sister/wife but not here Cletus

Aw Franky is Becky and Cletus the best you have?
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 1004
Muslim in America are not a threat
Posted: 4/14/2017 1:41:46 PM
So we target the Muslims for our hatred, yet when they try to stick together in defense we shout:

SEE? SEE? THEY have a problem!

its a circular argument--you can't trust those people b/c when we attack them, they do something about it we don't agree with so that proves you can't trust them.
 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
Msg: 1005
Muslim in America are not a threat
Posted: 4/14/2017 2:24:09 PM
Thia is like Sesame Street.
'Wjich one of these is not like the others'?

gto? Definitely not the odd ball. Dee? Nope
congup? Nope, hes not the weasel in the hen house either.
Leaving only one. The same one thats always being a dyck. Its all he knows how to be.
As his family must say... this place is so much better without him in it.

To topic?
Detroit doctor busted for performing genital mutilations.
Long live Islam!
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 1006
Muslim in America are not a threat
Posted: 4/14/2017 3:13:21 PM

To topic?
Detroit doctor busted for performing genital mutilations.
Long live Islam!


In related news:

Judge praises former LDS bishop, while sentencing him for rape, as victim listens
http://kutv.com/news/local/judge-praised-convicted-sex-offender


Evil Catholic priest raped young boy until 'he prayed he would die' during months of sickening sexual abuse
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/evil-catholic-priest-raped-young-10220240
 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
Msg: 1007
Muslim in America are not a threat
Posted: 4/14/2017 4:25:10 PM
Hahaha this cats a retard. Not too bright.

If I said Im against smoking, you just gave me all the shitty reasons not to drink.
Moot points to someone who doesnt do either.

So pointing out 'other' shit doesnt change the 'initial' shit, nor does it even mean I disagree.
Im absolutely no fan of Catholics either.
However, this is a place that has you swear on a bible, not a Koran. Dont like it, leave.
Right or wrong, perfect or flawed, this is Rome, and when in Rome you so as Romans, which isnt to say you run around and do,any of the bad things they do either.
Muhammad didnt even tolerate infidels, whereas Jesus saw non believers as potential converts. If 'not assimilating' applied Christians, there wouldnt be evangelicists.
Amish people...stick to themselves and do not seek to make ANY changes to society. There is no influx of Amish people threatening the status quo.

Incidentally? I dont personally like my POV. I saw a Muslim guy yesterday...wearing a Leafs jersey. I heard a muslim girl speak in our Parliament. There are so many nice Muslims! But... Muslims still and the mission remains the same
 congupnaroad
Joined: 7/22/2015
Msg: 1008
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Muslim in America are not a threat
Posted: 4/14/2017 5:36:26 PM
MSG 1013

In my town after WW2 there was an influx of Muslims from Albania/Turkey. They worked hard and to the best of my knowledge never spoke out against any of our traditions. They built their own mosque. Our current Mayor is a descendant of an Albanian Muslim and so is one of my best mates. Both nice people.


However the recent influx of Muslims tend to live in enclaves. Some of them have spoken out about Halloween, Valentines Day and one year the City bowed to their request to not put up Xmas decorations. However at the same time they want everyone else to respect their traditions.
Well my message to them is if you cannot respect other people's traditions, fvck off back to where you come from.

Anyway I wouldn't know if any of the "new" Muslims are nice people or not, especially the females because they are forbidden to speak to you.

MSG 1012
Aw Franky, I knew you would wheel out the Catholic priest thing, you are so boringly predictable. What are you trying to pull the old guilt by association thing?

Anyway you have achieved another epic failure, which of course is no surprise. If I had my way those Catholic priests would be subject to the death penalty.
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 1009
Muslim in America are not a threat
Posted: 4/14/2017 7:54:23 PM

Hahaha this cats a retard. Not too bright.

If I said Im against smoking, you just gave me all the shitty reasons not to drink.
Moot points to someone who doesnt do either.


So then tell me what does one dr doing something prove?

How come you are giving a pass to the ones that do it to boys?

You clearly have a hate and will look for any points to try and connect the dots.




So pointing out 'other' shit doesnt change the 'initial' shit, nor does it even mean I disagree.


It points out that you are a liar, own it like a man.




However, this is a place that has you swear on a bible, not a Koran. Dont like it, leave.


Wrong once again buttercup.

If you want to swear the oath on your holy book, bring it with you.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/English/citizenship/cit-ceremony.asp

Love to see how you will try and squirm out of this.




Right or wrong, perfect or flawed, this is Rome, and when in Rome you so as Romans, which isnt to say you run around and do,any of the bad things they do either.


No, it is right or wrong, this is Canada, not some fantasy land. And in Canada we do not discriminate against people because we are paranoid.




Muhammad didnt even tolerate infidels, whereas Jesus saw non believers as potential converts. If 'not assimilating' applied Christians, there wouldnt be evangelicists.


muhammad was a character in a book, and do you know that muslims like catholics have 100's of different groups that liked some parts of the book and not others and as such went their own ways.




Amish people...stick to themselves and do not seek to make ANY changes to society. There is no influx of Amish people threatening the status quo.


Correct, unlike the christians who are attempting to take over government and dictate legislation and as we just saw with tRump getting ready to get rid of the Johnson Amendment, give churches even more power, but the funny part will be when they realize that also means muslims churches.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 1010
Muslim in America are not a threat
Posted: 4/14/2017 8:34:54 PM
not to pry open the ol' can of worms, but circumcision...may be considered a form of involuntary genital mutilation, but as a society we don't ask questions about it. We think its perfectly normal to chop off the foreskin.
 forumslady
Joined: 12/7/2016
Msg: 1011
Muslim in America are not a threat
Posted: 4/14/2017 9:27:56 PM
gtomustang- Actually, the same exact thought came to my mind too. (about male circumcision)
There's a reason why they take male babies out of the room so the parents can't see what's done.
Every body should go to at least one briss.
Let them get on their high horse after that. :o
Male circumcision is culturally acceptable in the US, female circumcision is not.
That's just the way it is, but that doesn't make male circumcision any less painful.
As far as the topic:
Muslims in America........
It remains funny to me that some people are acting like people coming here from other countries and/or religions is something new.
It isn't.
All the talk about the destruction of our society as we know it only proves how well the agenda of fear mongering that is going on is working.
Here we are, debating who's country this is, who belongs here and who doesn't, when if we were ALL honest, the only people that have an actual right to call this country their's are American Indians.
I would pay money to be a fly on the wall for some of these people to go to an Indian reservation and start talking about this "my country" crap. OR, have the nerve to talk about an entire culture getting screwed.
Oh, and by the way, I've said several times that I am mostly Irish, this is true.
However, take a good look at my pic.
The high cheekbones and the shape of my eyes.
The other part of my heritage.........Cherokee Indian.
 RenissanceMan68
Joined: 12/3/2016
Msg: 1012
Muslim in America are not a threat
Posted: 4/15/2017 1:32:31 AM
A link that provides both sides of the coin?

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/05/male-circumcision-vs-female-circumcision/392732/

MY conclusion? Men...and their religions and what they do with it...suck.
 Kj521
Joined: 11/16/2016
Msg: 1013
Muslim in America are not a threat
Posted: 4/15/2017 3:26:01 AM
"not to pry open the ol' can of worms, but circumcision...may be considered a form of involuntary genital mutilation, but as a society we don't ask questions about it. We think its perfectly normal to chop off the foreskin."



True.....but in most cases...the intended & end physiological results are not comparible.
 Wilkes_Barre_Candy
Joined: 9/7/2016
Msg: 1014
Muslim in America are not a threat
Posted: 4/15/2017 5:45:16 AM

However, take a good look at my pic.
The high cheekbones and the shape of my eyes.
The other part of my heritage.........Cherokee Indian

So true, shake anyone's family tree & u will be finding something exotic!
FL, I bet you would love doing that 23 & me thing where u get an in depth genetic analysis, your heritage & all kinds of relatives etc. I found out I am 5% Yakut
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 1015
Muslim in America
Posted: 4/15/2017 5:45:36 AM
Americans .......versus .......Not Americans

In the country....... versus......Not in the country

Yes, all those problems and practices that we already have.

Why bring in more?

They can go to Canada. Their Prime Minister has already said the country will take them.

Why don't they just go there?

These kumbaya leftists pretend that this is comparable to other immigrants and religions.
If they want to live in that false world, there is nothing that you can do about it.

The people who think like that just can't be in charge. Of anything.

And they call Trump delusional. LOL!



 Wilkes_Barre_Candy
Joined: 9/7/2016
Msg: 1016
Muslim in America
Posted: 4/15/2017 6:01:51 AM

Americans .......versus .......Not Americans

In the country....... versus......Not in the country

Yes, all those problems and practices that we already have.

Why bring in more?

They can go to Canada. Their Prime Minister has already said the country will take them.

Dee if they are such an awful trouble & burden why dump them on our friends to the North? Do you realize how you sound? Do you have ANY SELF AWARENESS?


Why don't they just go there?

Why don't they? I dunno, why don't you stop immigrants in the streets & ask?


These kumbaya leftists pretend that this is comparable to other immigrants and religions.
I find your choice of words offensive. But I support your RIGHT of using them- freedom of speech. Personally, I am not a leftist or a liberal, more of a middle of the road person. There are elements of both parties that I like & do not like. But this is a bi-partisan system, so many have to choose carefully. And that "Kumbaya" statement, so cliched

If they want to live in that false world, there is nothing that you can do about it.

The people who think like that just can't be in charge. Of anything.

^^ NOW THIS TYPE OF THINKING- TRULY SCARY- I think you are Jeff Sessions in disguise!

And they call Trump delusional. LOL!
POT meet KETTLE
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 1017
Muslim in America
Posted: 4/15/2017 6:11:36 AM
Do you know how you sound?

Their Prime Minister stated that he would take them.

Let them

Win Win.

What does "self awareness" have to do with this? Talk about cliched.
You people tossing around all of these pat and overused phrases out of context is sometimes very amusing.

I have no belief that we should rid ourselves of muslims. The questions is whether we should let more people in, from where, under what circumstances and why.

We have problems here to deal with.

( Also, you clearly are not the Blond Angel/Blondie that I corresponded with offline but nice effort)
 Wilkes_Barre_Candy
Joined: 9/7/2016
Msg: 1018
Muslim in America
Posted: 4/15/2017 6:18:07 AM
Dee, clearly I am BA, however time, distance & new experiences changes those who are open to it.

"A wise man never knows all, only fools know everything."

~African Proverb~


Just appeared in my FB feed. How fitting.
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 1019
Muslim in America
Posted: 4/15/2017 6:29:19 AM
GTO is quite right, male circumcision (or "male genital mutilation", as I believe it should be known) is accepted as "standard" in the USA now, with about 60% of males being "cut", whereas in the uk., it's only about 10%.
I started a thread about it, (back when I was still allowed to start threads. ). If you search the uk forum for "circumcision", you'll find my views, and some interesting statistics, like "15 square inches"
It's really an amputation for purely cultural reasons.
Performed on people without their informed consent.

Is this really a part of "American culture"?
Or has it just been "imported"

As for "kumbaya" Dee, your president is still "kumbaya" about Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and many other countries who have been the countries of origin of actual "terrorists".
In fact, ALL the countries which are "Muslim", but Trump or his daughter do business in, are excluded from his ban.

But apart from anything else, the US constitution says it's illegal. to discriminate on the basis of religion.
Many of the "founding fathers" had left other countries, specifically because of such religious persecutions of minority religions.
So...
As someone else said: (paraphrasing)
"If you don't want to abide by the rules there, maybe you should just go somewhere else?"

Is " easter Saturday". The day when "our lord" shat all the chocolate eggs?
I'm not really 'up' on all the various customs and practices.
When do I have to crucify santa
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 1020
Muslim in America
Posted: 4/15/2017 6:35:26 AM
Sure. Uh, OK. Whatever you say.

Anyway....

Americans are not the only people seeing the light.

""A majority of Europeans want a ban on immigration from Muslim-majority countries, a poll has revealed.

An average of 55 per cent of people across the 10 European countries surveyed wanted to stop all future immigration from mainly Muslim countries.

The Chatham House study, conducted before US President Donald Trump signed an executive order banning immigration to the US from seven predominantly Muslim countries, found majorities in all but two of the ten states opposed immigration from mainly Muslim countries.""""


"""""Muslims who migrate to Europe should understand that there are better places for them to live if they do not want to accept the European way of life, German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble said on Wednesday.

Such migrants who do not accept Europe's way of living should be told "you have made the wrong decision", Schaeuble said during a round table discussion in Berlin.

"There are better places in the world to live under Islamic law than Europe," he added."""""

Sounds like you, RM!


It is in some ways too late. However, I choose to think of it like recycling. Many people refuse to recycle or don't think that it is necessary. (Open the floodgates, let everyone in to do whatever they want leftists). Then there are people like me who recycle, reuse, conserve,etc. But for our efforts, we would really be in a bind environmentally. ( Those who have eyes open and see the problems with this open door policy,). We will be the saviors, if it is not too late. So we continue the fight.

To a great extent Europeans, and Americans of European decent, have aborted, alternative lifestyled and unmarried/not married and childlessed themselves into this pickle.

As I have said, it seems that you all hate yourselves, don't want to continue, and have a death wish.

But there are those of us who like Western life and want our children to have that type of life.
We don't want our children and grandchildren to have to comport with the ways of those no go zones that you all pretend do not exist.

(I know, I know, you will refuse to look it up and if you do find something you will still tell yourselves that it is not true. Particularly those who now live far away from where people have to deal with them daily and weekly and the impinging masses.) But I will continue to try to disabuse you of your delusions and refusals to see.

Then again, maybe a friend is correct who says that if there is a revolution tomorrow that would require convert to Islam or die, the people who are so open to this and kumbaya and saying let anyone in would be the first to convert and put their kids and relatives up for death if they refuse.

Perhaps. I prefer to think that they would then put up a fight, even if it is then too late.
 Wilkes_Barre_Candy
Joined: 9/7/2016
Msg: 1021
Baby Boy Circumcision in America
Posted: 4/15/2017 6:54:26 AM

GTO is quite right, male circumcision (or "male genital mutilation", as I believe it should be known) is accepted as "standard" in the USA now, with about 60% of males being "cut", whereas in the uk., it's only about 10%.
I started a thread about it, (back when I was still allowed to start threads. ). If you search the uk forum for "circumcision", you'll find my views, and some interesting statistics, like "15 square inches"
It's really an amputation for purely cultural reasons.
Performed on people without their informed consent.

Is this really a part of "American culture"?
Or has it just been "imported"


My circumcision opinion(s)[ nothing fancy]:

When I was pregnant with my 1st child, my Ukrainian born Father put his nose in where it didn't belong & said if it is a boy, don't get him circumcised.

My Mother told me privately...Her best friend, Helene, like her, was a French émigré married to a Ukrainian émigré. Helene's 2nd child was a boy & she listened to her Ukrainian husband & did NOT have the baby circumcised.

The woman was meticulous, yet her son kept having...?infections/build up- I dunno- what uncircumcised male babies can get & she told my Mom that she had to keep using ointment on the baby's pecker & how frustrating it was etc.

My Mother related THAT to me, plus when the kid is older & in school etc.

So yes both my sons are "cut" & if we polled the 60% (as stated in another's post) do they remember any PAIN? Do they have any PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA? Does it affect their PERFORMANCE as an adult?

As a newborn infant, my son's did not have any say in their medical decisions, that was mine to make until they turned 18.

It is an irritant to me when people try to make something SIMPLE into something COMPLEX.
Mother's LIKE THEIR BABY BOYS TO HAVE A CLEAN WEE WEE, end of story.
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 1022
Muslim in America
Posted: 4/15/2017 7:04:15 AM
^^^^^ Could you PLEASE, I mean PRETTY PLEASE give us links when you start to quote "stuff" Dee?????? I mean, if you actually care that we can't take your opinions or thoughts too seriously without those links. When reading your comments, there are many times we can't figure out if it's an actual quote, or just something you have decided to repeat, or even make up all by yourself.


(I know, I know, you will refuse to look it up and if you do find something you will still tell yourselves that it is not true. Particularly those who now live far away from where people have to deal with them daily and weekly and the impinging masses.) But I will continue to try to disabuse you of your delusions and refusals to see.


You continue to say WE "refuse" to "look it up", yet, wouldn't it be helpful to your very own "point of view" to have links up to at least come close to backing up your "opinions"?????? Just asking.


To a great extent Europeans, and Americans of European decent, have aborted, alternative lifestyled and unmarried/not married and childlessed themselves into this pickle.


An opinion, without anything to back it up other than mindless typing. I thought it was Muslims, or should I say the endless amount of bad immigrants entering your country that is filling up the pickle jar???? Now, you are suggesting it's the "Europeans" AND "AMERICANS of European decent"???????? Is there anybody else that you forgot??????


Then again, maybe a friend is correct who says that if there is a revolution tomorrow that would require convert to Islam or die, the people who are so open to this and kumbaya and saying let anyone in would be the first to convert and put their kids and relatives up for death if they refuse.


Ahhhhhhh, another one of those "friends".

Can I ask how you even sleep at night with all these images going thru your head????? I mean, without stealing my whiskey?????
 lyinjovan
Joined: 4/3/2017
Msg: 1023
Muslim in America
Posted: 4/15/2017 7:15:27 AM
""""""But apart from anything else, the US constitution says it's illegal. to discriminate on the basis of religion """""

Really...can you quote that part of the constitution for us...or are you talking out of your rearend?
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 1024
Muslim in America
Posted: 4/15/2017 7:17:02 AM

A link that provides both sides of the coin?

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/05/male-circumcision-vs-female-circumcision/392732/

MY conclusion? Men...and their religions and what they do with it...suck.


Where is your link that proves only people coming to Canada can swear on a bible and not a koran or what ever book they want?

Are you just gonna run away from that?

Typical troll, post derp, get called on it and run and hide.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 1025
Muslim in America
Posted: 4/15/2017 7:25:49 AM
Recycling is good, thank the liberals for bringing you Earth Day and pushing recycling into every corner of America. In a perfect world, recycling would help industry with raw material costs--rather than import something who's market price could fluctuate, we could put americans to work recycling what gets thrown away. Abandoned houses in Detroit could be torn down for their old growth lumber for new houses elsewhere, et cetera.

well educated, peaceful first worlds do reduce the number of children they have, b/c they don't need to overcome infant mortality and losing young boys to war. This leads to less stress on the planet (according to Freakanomics, reducing unwanted children also reduces the street crime rate, but let's not look for additional benefits) and can lead to lower unemployment rates. And yet, since the end of WW2, the first world has done what it could to interfere in the Third World (in the beginning, leaning on colonies to help pay back WW2 bills, and then we found oil in some of those places, oh my). Funny how fooling around in the back yards of others' has led to constant, consistant blowback. we bomb the hell out of some country and then we wonder where all the immigrants are coming from.

No go zones? Yeah, I grew up when it was the Crips and the Bloods carving no-go zones in parts of California. Seems like there are plenty of groups willing to make "This land is my land" their new national song. it isn't just one group or religion who has the market on that idea. The KKK "Educated" a bunch of people in its day. If there was a sudden revolution, would people rise up and fight? Shoot, the banks have bankrupted home owners, and some of those who went underwater in their houses still believe voting Chump to overturn Dodd Frank is a revolutionary idea. Occupy Wall Street and Battle in Seattle happened, and the conservatives failed to run in and support. But now all of a sudden they "see" that big money is a problem for them.

A bunch of people demonstrated about an oil pipeline, and someone here pointed out, "oh, what a mess they left behind". Yet one day if big business tries to take over their land, they'll wonder "why is no one fighting for me?" some days, we're the lobster in the pot and the stove temperature is being turned up slowly so we don't realize we're getting cooked. other times, people get upset only b/c Faux News told them to (perfect example, War On Christmas!). its so ironic that the people who talk the most about "sheeple", get upset at only what their puppetmasters tell them to.
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