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 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 2376
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To the contrary Loltrump... I have produced scholarly studies proving the facts.


Cool story bro.





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 triblata
Joined: 6/11/2017
Msg: 2377
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/17/2017 6:58:46 AM
"yes, yes....like those happier healthier blissful people being oppressed, imprisoned, etc. the world over due to politics (greed) with their oppressors hiding behind religious beliefs"

People in the western nations are not being oppressed due to religion. Even in the LGBT realm, people if they are oppressed, are oppressed more from bigots and haters whose attitudes have nothing to do with religion. People at times are just aholes.

There of course are tyrants in the non westernized nations, some of them religious, but tyrants are tyrants and want things done their way regardless of religion.

Many Jews during the holocaust their imprisonment and pending gassing in fact prayed, reached out to god for strength..Some gave up on God.

But yes, I am focussing more on the west because I am more familiar with the west and the religious here...and the studies have been completed here showing the benefits of religion...but I'll bet in countries where life is more difficult, you will find more religious.

The bottom line is that sure some depraved people use religion for nefarious purposes, but by and large religion provides many benefits to many people.

Reminds me of a girl I dated in my early twenties. We both were non-religious more or less. We reconnected decades later...she had some traumatic events in her life, married a religious guy and converted to a very diehard Catholic. I barely recognized her. But she did what she had to for herself.

People are in the west more likely to reject religion these days, but I doubt religion will be dying out anywhere anytime soon, and if it does, people will find other ways to feed their spiritual needs.
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 2378
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/17/2017 7:01:36 AM
I can only imagine if this had been a muslim how full retard the media would be going right now, but because it was christains not only does it make the main stream news, there where literally 12 people standing around watching it thinking it was ok.


Ferndale Mother Arrested For Attempted Homicide After ‘Trying to Remove the Demons’ from Her 11-Year-Old Child
Andrew Goff
June 16. 2017

Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office press release

On Friday June 16th at approximately 9 a.m. the Humboldt County Sheriff’s Office received a 911 call in regards to a small child being attacked by the child’s mother at Centerville beach near Ferndale. The caller stated that the mother was attempting to perform an exorcism on the 11 year old child. The mother had stripped the child naked and was shoving handfuls of sand in the child’s eyes and into the child’s mouth. The mother stated she was trying to remove the Demons from the child.

The mother, 45 year old Kimberly Felder of Ferndale, continued the assault by viciously striking, biting, and choking the child. This assault was being witnessed by a crowd of approximately 10 to 12 people. When local citizen John Marciel arrived on scene, he immediately stepped in and attempted to restrain Felder and prevent further assault to the child. Marciel struggled on the ground with the Felder, while Felder continued her persistent attack on the child by hitting the child in the head with a piece of driftwood. A short time later a Sheriff’s Deputy arrived and Felder was finally pulled from the child and placed in handcuffs.


https://lostcoastoutpost.com/2017/jun/16/ferndale-mother-arrested-attempted-homicide-after/
 triblata
Joined: 6/11/2017
Msg: 2379
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/17/2017 7:08:12 AM
Any proof the 12 people watching thought it was ok? Didn't somebody call the police? A mentally ill woman is big news? You know so little yet make so many assumptions...not much of a critical thinker are you?
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 2380
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/17/2017 7:11:27 AM

Any proof the 12 people watching thought it was ok? Didn't somebody call the police? A mentally ill woman is big news? You know so little yet make so many assumptions...not much of a critical thinker are you?


So you claim I am not a critical thinker, yet all of your question can be answered if you read the story.

Not sure of your are really just that stupid or you are trying to be an apologist for people who think there is an invisible man in the sky.

Either way, best of luck with that.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 2381
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/17/2017 7:15:17 AM
Interesting link re the decline of religion in the western world. http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2016/09/05/religion-is-in-decline-in-the-west-and-america-is-no-exception. = slow evolutionary process
 triblata
Joined: 6/11/2017
Msg: 2382
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/17/2017 7:17:19 AM
Just read the story...nothing suggesting it was okay with anybody. You always see things not there..say things not supported by evidence. One of your many faults. You simply assume things not supported by facts.
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 2383
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/17/2017 7:21:51 AM

Just read the story...nothing suggesting it was okay with anybody.


Yes and that is why 12 people stood around did nothing until a stranger arrived and intervened.

"This assault was being witnessed by a crowd of approximately 10 to 12 people. When local citizen John Marciel arrived on scene, he immediately stepped in and attempted to restrain Felder and prevent further assault to the child."





You always see things not there..say things not supported by evidence. One of your many faults. You simply assume things not supported by facts.


You really need to troll smarter not harder, as it is making you look like a total idiot.

Next time get an adult to help you or ask some invisible man in the sky.
 triblata
Joined: 6/11/2017
Msg: 2384
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/17/2017 7:36:05 AM
That people don't intervene does not mean things are okay with them. They saw a violent, crazy women and did not want to intervene, and you interpret that to mean they supported her actions? Maybe the people watching were children themselves, friends of the child.

I'm just tired of your b's and apparent inbility to critically examine the written word and your always seeing only what you want to see. You and Elphaba are the same. She too has zero critical thinking abilities. When I argue with her, I just need to remind myself she is a stupid person who can't be taken seriously..
 funchesf
Joined: 6/27/2014
Msg: 2385
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/17/2017 12:16:37 PM

Posted By: Triblata
If so, so what...if people are happier and healthier for that bliss?

if that is true....then why did you stop following the Jewish religion ...is it because you rather be unhealthy and miserable?


Posted By: Triblata
A babbling and meaningless and immaterial assertion by a strikingly ignorant man. who still apparently believes most people live in the dark ages.

"Circumcision" is of the Dark Ages ...as long as you preach in favor of such religions you in turn condone "the beheading" of little boys privates ......


Posted By: Triblata
A babbling, nonsensical and ignorant assertion based on an ignorant man's imagination.

yep...that's religion
 triblata
Joined: 6/11/2017
Msg: 2386
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/17/2017 1:02:08 PM

Posted By: Triblata
If so, so what...if people are happier and healthier for that bliss?

if that is true....then why did you stop following the Jewish religion ...is it because you rather be unhealthy and miserable?


Are you actually capable of trying to Bait somebody? I thought nonsensical babbling was your own attribute.


Posted By: Triblata
A babbling and meaningless and immaterial assertion by a strikingly ignorant man. who still apparently believes most people live in the dark ages.

"Circumcision" is of the Dark Ages ...as long as you preach in favor of such religions you in turn condone "the beheading" of little boys privates ......


Whew..... back to babbling I see..... you scared me for a second.



Posted By: Triblata
A babbling, nonsensical and ignorant assertion based on an ignorant man's imagination.

yep...that's religion


I'm guessing you don't know a whole lot about religion or why people are religioius.... I would suggest you read something... but I don't want you to stop babbling please. I need your ideas for the Funchest doll.
 funchesf
Joined: 6/27/2014
Msg: 2387
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/17/2017 1:59:05 PM

Posted By: Triblata
Are you actually capable of trying to Bait somebody?

I'm simply asking how you can be both non-religious and Jewish at the same time ....


Posted By: Triblata
I thought nonsensical babbling was your own attribute.

or perhaps that's why you keep getting kicked off this site


Posted By: Triblata
you scared me for a second.

what's scary is that you include "Circumcision" in your claim that Judaism is a religion of peace ...or did you mean "piece"? (chop chop)


Posted By: Triblata
I'm guessing you don't know a whole lot about religion or why people are religioius

what's to know ..other than the fact that you worship something you can't prove exist...


Posted By: Triblata
I would suggest you read something

are you suggesting I read something with a talking serpent in it
 triblata
Joined: 6/11/2017
Msg: 2388
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/17/2017 5:57:30 PM
"what's scary is that you include "Circumcision" in your claim that Judaism is a religion of peace ...or did you mean "piece"? (chop chop)"

Shocker alert... not only are you a babbling, shockingly ignorant man...you are also a first class bigot. Who would of thought that about a babbler? Let's keep this to ourselves so as not to hurt funchesf doll sales.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 2389
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/18/2017 5:09:41 PM

And now, for the soft sell:


""""""""""""Berlin (AFP) - With a mission to spread a liberal form of Islam, a mosque where men and women pray side by side has opened its doors in Berlin, complete with female imams.

The Arabic phrase "Allahu Akbar" ('God is greatest') resonated through the crowded Ibn-Rushd-Goethe-Mosque Friday as US-Malaysian Ani Zonneveld, one of the world's few female imams, launched the call to prayer.

Then one of the founders of the new place of worship, lawyer and women's rights activist Seyran Ates, opened the event with words of welcome before Christian and Jewish guests and a large media contingent.

"We want to send a signal against Islamic terror and the misuse of our religion," said Turkish-born Ates, 54, dressed in a long white robe. "We want to practise our religion together."

Ates -- no stranger to breaking taboos, having called for a "sexual revolution" in the Muslim world -- vowed she would not allow ultra-conservatives "to rob me of my right to be Muslim".

Kneeling on green carpets, the faithful -- men and women, side by side -- bowed to Mecca for the traditional prayer as the imam spoke in German.

Some of the women wore veils or head coverings, others did not.

- 'Depoliticise' Islam -

The new mosque, the 88th in the German capital, is located in a rented room on the third floor of the Protestant Johanniskirche (St. John's Church) building.

All Muslims -- Sunni or Shia, Alawite or Sufi -- are welcome in the mosque named after one of Germany's greatest writers, Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, and 12th century Islamic scholar Ibn Rushd, also known as Averroes.

The seven founding members said they want to open their prayer hall to all groups, including gays and lesbians.

"This mosque allows Muslims to define themselves in a new way," said co-founder and German Islam scholar Abdel-Hakim Ourghi.

He added that "we will try to depoliticise Islam", as the religion was being torn by rival political movements. "Because religion is a private matter."

Police stood guard outside the entrance of the building.""""""""


"""""""the mosque occupies a big room on the third floor of an old red brick Lutheran church."""""""
 forumslady
Joined: 12/7/2016
Msg: 2390
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/18/2017 5:29:47 PM
deetristate- Thank you for sharing this. ^^^^^^
More country's in the world are making progress and embracing more than one religion, how wonderful.

Yeah, yeah, I know, you see it as a bad thing, you would.
Let me guess, to you this is a Trojan horse? A way to get their foot in the door, so they can start putting pods under people's beds and/or brainwashing them?

The mind is a terrible thing to waste.

There is no vast conspiracy, Dee.
Most people have sense enough to reject extremist beliefs.
Yes, extremists manage to convert others to extremism from time to time, these are people who were already on the edge anyway.
Most people, sane people, realize any kind of extremism, regardless what religion is being discussed, are lunatics.
The irony here is that YOU can't get that and yet you are paranoid about people who actually think the SAME way you do.
If you could ever get over a very bad case of cognitive dissonance, you might could see that the vast majority of Muslim's are kind, loving people.
As it is, you truly believe that anyone can become an extremist, yet YOU are an extremist for thinking that way.
You don't see it, but I wish you would because then there MIGHT be hope for you.
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 2391
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/18/2017 6:58:34 PM
Yes Dee, like forumslady said.....".you might could see" YIKES, not sure what might could see means in english
Anywho, I know you don't hate all people, you just don't care for the extremists. Now that for many makes sense, for "some" they will make you out to sound like you hate an entire race or religion etc. That's the leftist way and they use it all the time and are proud of it....YIKES!!!!!
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 2392
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/18/2017 7:07:50 PM
I don't know, john. Some people just like to make up things and ascribe the made up to me and then argue with themselves.
I can't do anything about that.

I also can't help that they hysterically interpret anything to the extreme and put their heads in the sand in the face of reality.
Like they need security present, which is telling.


The interesting thing will be how the larger community responds.
I read somewhere that the lutheran church has very few members.

But then again it is only a rented room in a church.

A luthern church that I know of rents its church to reform jews on saturdays.
The congregation didn't mind until they started hanging rainbows everywhere.

Just an interesting development. And a soft sell to a population that is generslly reeling.
 Kj521
Joined: 11/16/2016
Msg: 2393
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/18/2017 7:14:42 PM
"Muslim's are kind, loving people."

Not all of them.

I, daresay, they are no different than any other human being. We all possess the potential to be both good and evil. Religious and/or other group affiliations....only provide us the justifications for the resultant behavior.



Ps.....Hope you had a wonderful Father's Day, John. :)
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 2394
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/18/2017 8:03:47 PM
Kj, ^^^^^ don't try to explain that to some in here because they don't want to admit it. They are consistent.

Yes, had a great fathers day, have two awesome sons that are fathers also. Life is good!!
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 2395
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/18/2017 8:47:04 PM

Not all of them.


But neither are "non Muslims"
As a right wing nut job in London ran down pple in a Muslim neighborhood!

Sinking down to the level of the terrorists (who you are railing against)...is a great way to prove your point!
 Kj521
Joined: 11/16/2016
Msg: 2396
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/18/2017 9:00:05 PM
Long sigh.......I hate repeating myself, Mr. Yule. :/



"I, daresay, they are no different than any other human being. We all possess the potential to be both good and evil. Religious and/or other group affiliations....only provide us the justifications for the resultant behavior."

Capisci? :)
 LLove2LaughToo
Joined: 6/6/2016
Msg: 2397
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/18/2017 9:40:24 PM

Msg: 2411
As a right wing nut job in London ran down pple in a Muslim neighborhood!


"Eyewitnesses have said the man got out of the car, was waving a knife, and shouted “I want to kill all Muslims”."

Are those crickets we hear--------------> from the White House?
 vlad dracul
Joined: 4/30/2009
Msg: 2398
view profile
History
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/19/2017 1:52:47 AM
Once again a nutter goes on the rampage in london. When i heard the news on sky this morning something about the name got me thinking. I used to live no to far from finsbury park in my london years. Stamford hill. A heavy orthodox jewish area.

But finsbury park mosque was notorious for links to terrorism. The hate preacher abu hamza used to preach his pro terrorist wafflings from there. Also known as captain hook the rodent was eventually extradited to shermanland.

It got me wondering why that particular mosque was targeted? It appears to have tried to shake off its terrorist friendly past though.
Still another day another tragedy on these islands. I think we will be in for onle long long summer of discontent on these islands.

But i would not at all be surprised if finsbury park mosque was chosen because of its past......


"Al Qaeda operatives including "shoebomber" Richard Reid and Zacarias Moussaoui attended the mosque.[7] In 2002, The Guardian reported that weapons training had taken place inside the building.[8]

"According to classified American documents, released by Wikileaks, Finsbury Park mosque previously served "as a haven" for Islamic extremists who subsequently fought against allied forces in Afghanistan.[13]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finsbury_Park_Mosque
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 2399
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/19/2017 3:12:14 AM
oh...well, as long as there is a history, who can complain when the chickens come home to roost? After all, if the Brits ever had a history of dominating other groups...oh....wait...oops.
 vlad dracul
Joined: 4/30/2009
Msg: 2400
view profile
History
Muslim in America
Posted: 6/19/2017 3:50:23 AM
"oh...well, as long as there is a history, who can complain when the chickens come home to roost? After all, if the Brits ever had a history of dominating other groups...oh....wait...oops."

Oh dear. What a sad reply geezer. I pointed out that THAT mosque in particular had a history of extremism. I also pointed out that it COULD have been a factor in the attack. If i up here in Scotland can remember what it USED to be linked to then obviously others can as well.

All you done was make yourself like a lot of the others on here. Be honest here GTO did you know that the said mosque was known for its support of terrorism in the past? Do you not think that could be a reason for an attack?

Where in my post did i condone the attack then? Where did i say it was justified? Where did i welcome any deaths?

Point me in the right direction please.

Ps
If you are ITK and know why that certain mosque was attacked please share. Ta.
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