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 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 51
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776Page 3 of 6    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6)
Exactly.
Leftists fought for such "free" behavior and now here we are.

Surprised you guys are not happy that all those thing that you fought for and claimed " people are free to do what they want" is now greeted with a shrug.
People look at other issues now to make decisions. You leftists made personal morality passe'.

That leftists object to anything having to do with sex is as amusing as your now being afraid of comunism and Russia.

You made this bed. Tah da!
 _babblefish
Joined: 9/23/2011
Msg: 52
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/12/2017 8:50:34 AM
^ i've informed you before, there is no leftist party in the USA .. e.g.; Clinton was a slight variation of a neocon and nothing more. Even her healthcare plan was originally a republican plan and she touted that as progressive ergo, you have right and bat shit right, and i get that it can be confusing, hell, yikey chuck can't decide if it's still ok to eat
uncle ben's, it's white, that's good, but it's rice, but that's asian..


You leftists made personal morality passe'.


nonsensical shit at its finest and 2 year old's say ta-da
 Whisky_River
Joined: 12/2/2015
Msg: 53
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/12/2017 8:52:28 AM
Again....You're missing the point....Dee.
Waste of time.....

nonsensical $hit is all they got.
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 54
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/12/2017 9:00:28 AM

I am old but I have young kids whose future I worried about. I am not so much now.


What happened????

You get your " boys' " vouchers in the mail already??????? Didn't think they would show up until, at least, the 21st.

Orrrrrr, is it because of one man that their "path" has become "easier"?????
 Tomfiend
Joined: 10/3/2016
Msg: 55
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/12/2017 9:00:52 AM
^^^^ I can't even figure out what Dee is trying to say...if any of you can make heads or tails of it... more power to you.
 Whisky_River
Joined: 12/2/2015
Msg: 56
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/12/2017 9:28:53 AM
Dee is trying to say...It's the CLINTONS fault...what else is new??


We all knew these hatreds lurked under the thinnest veneer of civility. That civility finally is gone.
We all knew these hatreds lurked under the thinnest veneer of civility. That civility finally is gone. In its absence, we may realize just how imperative that politesse was. It is the way we managed to coexist.

Yes.....so true. Disappointed in how many people back and advocate/accept this kind of leadership.....sad.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 57
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/12/2017 11:05:57 AM
Its interesting to bring up the ME generation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me_generation

which is actually...the Baby Boom generation, and Tom Wolfe categorized them in the 1970's for their self absorption.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/when-comes-baby-boomers-still-all-about-me-180953030/

Both the Clintons and Newt Gingrich were labeled role models of the narcissism. But who brought up the negativity in politics? Hmm, Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh and their ilk. So maybe one led to the other. Funny, tho, the pot smokers were anti Establishment, and now Libertarians want to legalize weed and fight the Establishment.

Once again, as I've said, the Republicans are acting like Democrats, decades late. How ironic. We paved the way, they follow.

Perhaps another relic of the Vietnam era, assassinations and mutilating the dead

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/10/the-crimes-of-seal-team-6/

We become like the enemy, and think it might scare them rather than energize them. Will there be more of it in a Chump administration that wishes to waterboard and imprison and nuke? Does it indeed scare the enemy, or make it fight harder? What does it do psychologically to the returning vets, like the Alaskan who shot up the airport in Florida? Does unending war just cause more war and more problems at home?

and since someone will ask, yes, what is the solution? Just keep doing the same thing again and again?
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 58
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/13/2017 4:17:06 AM

When traditional morality is left at the curb and degenerate, selfish, hedonistic and immoral behavior is normalized, it infects all aspects of society, including commerce.


"Traditional morality" said that it was not only ok to beat your wife(s) and children, it was expected of you, to ensure their compliance and obedience.
"Traditional morality" said that if a woman got raped, it was her fault, and she should be punished.
"Traditional morality" said that owning slaves was perfectly moral.
Many religious fundamentalists still practice and promote such "traditional morality", and try to impose their delusions on others, by force.

Morals change, over time, morals are decided by consensus (normally now, although formerly imposed, by violent means and threats, by religions).

Despite having more 'liberal' attitudes towards other people's sexual preferences, I think that most such "liberals" would still consider a man walking into the dressing rooms of young, female contestants in 'beauty pageants' unannounced and uninvited, on the premise of "inspecting the goods", as both "degenerate", and "immoral behaviour".

And yet, you still voted for him.

" Me,me,me, no matter how it affects society" is not the start of a good policy position for a country or a strong middle class. )

Bravo! A good socialist statement.
I agree.
Please tell the republicans.

When leaders consider themselves " citixens of the world," they don't feel a need to work for the people who are in their own country.

Ebola, AIDS, Zika, Swine Flu, Bird Flu, Ice caps melting, sea levels rising, global warming, religious fundamentalists, forced migrations, meteor strikes, and other catastrophes, are no respecters of national boundaries, or passports.
I only wish more so called "leaders" would consider themselves to be "citizens of the world".
-Instead, we have evolved a system where the "leaders" simply measure popular, (even if deluded,) opinions, in order to get elected.
Leaders like Trump simply follow the loudest voices, and consider that "success".


( As an sside, there is an interesting piece about " Empathy does not make you a good person"
That it is all about feeling good about themselves, not really helping anyone or a cause to the detriment. Essily googled)

Sure. -Hey, if it makes you feel better.
You could also 'google' much about "EQ" being a much better measure of intelligence, than "IQ".
So in that sense, (-assuming you feel that intelligence is "good",) it does make you a good person.

I am old but I have young kids whose future I worried about. I am not so much now.

Yeah Dee, "it's gonna be great", because HE said so.....

Just like Atlantic City was, for your hero, and all the people now out of work there.
He said that was going to be "great" too. I saw a program about it, the other day.
Google that.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 59
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/13/2017 6:18:28 AM
Meanwhile, it will be fun to see what happens to the American press, when they get alienated one by one by the White House. Instead of getting the Five O'clock Follies spoonfed to them, will they engage in independent investigative reporting? Or just report celebrity news instead?

Chump may soon be reminded of Corelone family advice...keep your enemies closer, so you can keep an eye on them.
 Maleman999
Joined: 2/14/2010
Msg: 60
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/13/2017 7:03:04 AM
Chump doesn't realize that alienating the press will backfire on him, because people will be drawn to the press to see what they're saying about him to make him to go off the deep end and have a hissy fit, and go tweet crazy.
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 61
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/13/2017 7:37:35 AM

Chump doesn't realize that alienating the press will backfire on him, because people will be drawn to the press to see what they're saying about him to make him to go off the deep end and have a hissy fit, and go tweet crazy.


I actually believe this could have started already. That buzz feed stuff the night before his morning press conference could be used as an example. Almost half of that conference was talking about that "news" release. The "timing" of it all could be questioned.

I guess it's just part of the change that is going to be going on for the next little while? The rules, for everyone, not just Mr.Trump, are going to be challenged, bent, tested, and crossed during this administration. As citizens, it's going to be a tough one to figure out what actually is really going on out there.
 Tomfiend
Joined: 10/3/2016
Msg: 62
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/13/2017 8:00:18 AM
http://www.fff.org/2017/01/10/will-cia-retaliate-trump/

Trump has taken on a very powerful enemy. He should have known his place. They are going to destroy him.
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/13/2017 1:24:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEYVCNgYA6s
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 64
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/13/2017 4:15:14 PM
Non whites should probably be a bit more racist. Then they wouldn't have been conquered and exploited and misled so much.
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/13/2017 4:23:55 PM
I don't think that being more racist is a good way to avoid those things.
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 66
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/13/2017 9:51:51 PM
Excellent video drinks! Many liberals in here just don't want to see the truth. Interesting how Palestine is in the top 10 as far as being racists. We have a few in here that just love to defend them. Interesting in adding that up to be something good people are not and that is being a racist. Enjoyed the pictures of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton being at the head of the class as far as being racists. They are a disgrace to the blacks but we have seen that over and over again. OP, even though the Obama era was a total disaster, we did survive but not because of our President doing hardly anything good. So I wouldn't be so quick to do the liberal thing in that they say the world is going to fall and end. Do the "cute" thing and sing a song........like maybe I will survive"!!!!!!!! YIKES!!!
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 67
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/14/2017 3:43:01 AM
If I were Palestinian, I would be racist as well, with Israel bombing me, the USA usually backing them and rocks versus guns, and everything.
(Even though the Vietnamese did defeat the USA by jumping out of trees, etc.)

But racist is the wrong word for what Palestinians feel, I believe, because Palestinian and Jewish are not races. More like prejudice and aversion?

If you think about it, all people who have been invaded,or had land taken away or conquered or annexed by some Western nation as part of an empire or taken on slave ships for sale to the West because their race made it easy and convenient on the psyche of the invaders should be somewhat racist, or at least a bit prejudice, cautious and suspicious.

De facto Jim Crow did not end until the 80s and still exists on some level in some places. And NOW, any "Minority" who spends time on a discussion board or in an online comment section should be at least a bit wary and racist.

If not, they are mentally ill.

They should embrace a bit of racism as a means of self preservation, like the zionists, (Like our girl Tomfiend) who are unapologetic about it and have survived through a lot of things.
_______________________________________
It is interesting that the video points out that India is the most racist as we are flooded with Indian immigrants, many overstaying Visas, in the USA. Will that have any long term affect? Will they adopt what is claimed to be the "tolerance" of the USA or are they taking with the them prejudice of India?

It is also interesting that he surmises at the end of the video that the mainstream (Liberal) media is inciting the racism of blacks. How about those liberals. LOL!

Also interesting was the video that followed, basically a textbook case of liberals destroying your life if you don't agree with them. """"Alt-Right Youtuber Forced Into Hiding""""
 Doubleknotspy7
Joined: 8/10/2016
Msg: 68
Farewell President Obama America Hello Rising Phoenix America Born Nov 8, 2016
Posted: 1/14/2017 5:02:07 AM
More "leftist" attacks hang in there Dee.
Meanwhile...

"CEO Lockheed Martin Marillyn Hewson spoke to reporters after meeting with Trump in New York on Friday.

Trump tweeted last month that the cost of the F-35 is "out of control." At Wednesday's news conference, he pledged to drive down the price and make it a better fighter jet. He suggested he would use competition to do so.

In recent weeks, Lockheed Martin has been reluctant to back down. It said the F-35 program isn't any more expensive than comparable programs in other countries. And it said the next-generation stealth fighter matches its price.

But after meeting with Trump, Hewson said she and the President-elect agreed they need to get the best technology to the US military at the lowest price.

She said she assured Trump the firm will reduce the cost of the F-35 and increase jobs at the company by 1,800."

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20170114_14/

Gee I wonder if those are part time President Obama like jobs?
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 69
Farewell President Obama America Hello Rising Phoenix America Born Nov 8, 2016
Posted: 1/14/2017 6:11:57 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEYVCNgYA6s



^^^^^^

There ya go Drinks,,,,you got two, maybe three, of them to bite. Do you feel good at confirming thoughts about fake news????? (as if this was actually news) And how about the "discussion" that you generated posting a video showing an opinion supposedly based on a "survey"?????? I'm sitting on the edge of my chair waiting for what's next.

Can't wait.
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 70
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/14/2017 6:19:16 AM
I watched the video, and wondered how those alleged 'statistics' would correlate to literacy, or some other educational attainment metrics.
Belief in "race", like belief in religions, is simply a result of ignorance.

They are a disgrace to the blacks

There is no such thing as "the blacks", it's as stupid as that video's stupid title, containing the word "white".
Are you the same as all the other alleged "white" people

The notion that you can somehow "diagnose" a person's personality, ability, likes and dislikes, based on skin shade, is truly stupid.
All such stupid beliefs, and the discrimination which results from that, are learned, and cultural.

You might just as well discriminate on the basis of height.

There are no laws which compel you to be either stupid, or to believe or adhere to, "racial" stereotypes.
(whatever they might be)

If Palestinians are "racist", it's most likely because the "jews" have imposed segregation, based on this stupid idea: that the "jews" are one "race", and the Palestinians", a completely different one..
It's bullshit.

I realise that I appear to be a solitary voice in the wilderness here, but I'd encourage anyone to do their own research.
There's never even been a "race", much less a "pure" one.
Read about the "Genome Project", read about it's results, and keep an open mind.

Tribal 'in-breeding' may have resulted in isolated populations, who shared similar visible characteristics, but they all began, by coming from somewhere else first.

Eg., The 'native Americans' came from what is now Siberia.

Skin colour is simply a product of the amount of sunlight, and changes over generations.

There is a direct correlation between the geographic distribution of UV radiation (UVR) and the distribution of indigenous skin pigmentation around the world. Areas that receive higher amounts of UVR, generally located closer to the equator, tend to have darker-skinned populations. Areas that are far from the tropics and closer to the poles have lower intensity of UVR, which is reflected in lighter-skinned populations.[4] Researchers suggest that human populations over the past 50,000 years have changed from dark-skinned to light-skinned and vice versa as they migrated to different UV zones,[5] and that such major changes in pigmentation may have happened in as little as 100 generations (≈2,500 years) through selective sweeps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skin_color

^ Note here, that 2,500 years is also about the same time frame that "jews" used, to claim their alleged "right" steal other people's land.
If you do the sums, based on 25 years/generation, when you get to just 1,000 years ago, we each have about one trillion ancestors.
-That's more people than have ever lived.
That's at just 40 generations.(2 to the power of 40)
Maybe someone could tell me what 2 to the power of 100 is
It's gonna be a very big number.

It's been calculated/extrapolated that the Most Recent Common Ancestor of all of the about 7 billion people, currently alive, could also be as recently as just 3,000 years ago.

So how long do the people who believe in "race", ( such as the presenter of that video) think it takes for a "race" to develop, and where did that happen, and when?

There's no such thing as "race".
If there is, then there are about 7 billion different "races", because unless you're an identical ('monozygotic') twin, there's no other person with the same DNA as you.
Not your parents, not your siblings, not your children.

We are all unique.
Well, I certainly am.
"Race"; just say no.
Have a lovely Saturday.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 71
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/14/2017 7:17:42 AM
I'll just steal this from my other post about the video. It has a link
http://www.therebel.media/whites_not_most_racist_people_on_earth
its author (apparently conservative, if his other articles and his college campus groups are evidence?)
http://www.therebel.media/jay_fayza
bases his video and his report on this poll
https://businesstech.co.za/news/lifestyle/116644/the-most-racist-countries-in-the-world/
(which is apparently all about...South Africa? which used to have a racist system known as apartheid
"BusinessTech's Staff Writer is directly plugged into the South African Internet backbone, and spits out press releases and other news as they receive it.")
"Insider Monkey said that individually, the surveys are too broad to give an indication of racism, which is incredibly complex to ‘define’ due to the subjectivity involved – and even when combined, the topic of ‘racism’ still isn’t comprehensive. However, “when you combine two or more approaches it is more likely that some of these biases cancel out and the resulting estimate is more accurate,” it said. One caveat to the data was that it only covered 61 countries. “It is highly likely that the rankings would be different if (Syria and Austria) and other excluded countries were part of the survey,” the group said."

That said, I think racism is a human trait, especially in homogeneous areas of the world. In our more caveman, ancestral days, strangers were typically going to steal our food, so they were potentially a warlike threat. Of course, the irony is, how much does the Republican party promote racism in order to get votes?

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/21/gops_fear_of_a_black_america_the_long_racist_history_which_explains_dylann_roof_and_stains_the_so_called_party_of_lincoln/
https://www.africanglobe.net/headlines/republican-party-history-conservatives-racism-america/

And of course, "Dixiecrat" Democrats in the South that Nicon reached with the "southern strategy"

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/the-truth-about-republican-racism-and-the-southern-strategy/
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 72
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/14/2017 7:21:11 AM
The notion that you can somehow "diagnose" a person's personality, ability, likes and dislikes, based on skin shade, is truly stupid.
All such stupid beliefs, and the discrimination which results from that, are learned, and cultural.

^^^^^^^^ Like the video points to, Sharpton and Jackson indeed are basing their hate on skin color so your whole post shows how very wrong you are. But thanks for continuing to post, we enjoy agreeing to disagree with them!!
 Walts
Joined: 5/7/2005
Msg: 73
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/14/2017 7:28:53 AM

Like the video points to,


News flash Johnny boy.

When you use this video as "fact" or "information" it confirms what a lot of people already believe about you.

But, you carry on believing something because it tells you something that you already believe.

It's a phucking opinon on a phucking UTube video based on a so-called "survery". Anybody can do it. And anybody, obviously, can "believe" it.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 74
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/14/2017 7:53:02 AM
Johnny, b/c you said something nice about Obama today in another thread and i'm in a good mood, i'm going to agree with a point I think you were making. Sharpton and Jackson are indeed, demagogues cashing in on a subject. Like Walt said, I don't think we need to base it on the posted racism videos to come to that conclusion, I think the actions by both men speak on their own. They are like ambulance chasing lawyers--sometimes, they do actually go to a scene where something bad happened, and they raise a good point. Other times, however, they're just there for the cameras and hoping for more donations.

now...does their activities mean there's no racism in America? Does the existence of racism outside America, mean that America's racism is so small a problem, we shouldn't bother to do anything about it? Go ahead, Dee, Spy, John, and all the others who agree to disagree with me and them, please, answer these two questions. Do you think racism in America is too small to worry about?
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 75
Farewell America. Born July 4, 1776. Died November 8, 1776
Posted: 1/14/2017 8:12:08 AM
Racism", like guns, are just a part of America's "cultural/historical baggage".
The country was founded as just another "racist" colony of the British.
The people who already lived there, had no "rights".

The changing social mores makes "conservatives" angry..
-Angry enough to vote for anyone "white", who sounds as angry as they are, as long as he shouts.

-Even if he's an "elite" billionaire, who pays no tax, invests heavily overseas, brags about assaulting women, and soon, will have a video circulating (prediction!), showing exactly why you should never shake his hand.
Now we know why his hair's yellow.
What a guy.
Who's next? -"Peewee Herman"

"The Simpsons Movie" was on last night.
I can't remember the name of the "Arnie" type president in that,
but it was horribly prescient.
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