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 N2U16
Joined: 9/25/2016
Msg: 226
The Butcher of Libya (Sec. Hillary Rodham Clinton)Page 10 of 64    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41)

Ummm, Yah........and your narrative is that Assad did it all by himself......with chemical stock that he wasn't supposed to have!

WHAT???????

Russia didn’t do it….Assad didn’t do it……it’s a false flag just like it was a false flag in 2013 when President Obama was trying to send troops to Syria.

Children are always used for propaganda and when propagandist start looping video of injured children 24/7, you know something is about to go down.
Every Country around the world understands that “WMD’s” are the favorite excuse for invasion and regime change of the U.S. and Allies.

Of course, The Butcher of Libya (Sec. Hillary Rodham Clinton) didn’t even give that excuse for the destruction of Libya. Who cares about the children of Libya now that it’s a cesspool?
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 227
The Butcher of Libya (Sec. Hillary Rodham Clinton)
Posted: 4/7/2017 7:10:23 PM

Russia didn’t do it….Assad didn’t do it


Have you ever heard of Al-Nusra?


it’s a false flag just like it was a false flag in 2013 when President Obama was trying to send troops to Syria.


It may very likley be a false flag.
IF you truly wanna know the details (and analyses therein) of what took place on 2013, then read the whole article below.

You'll see how Obama mis-played the matter, and then why he decided not cross the "red line"...and what it would have entailed militarily if he had! By declining to do so, he knew the GOP was gonna make "political hay" from it (which is why he then deferred to Congress...and they shyd away too!)

You'll also see (by way of contrast) that Trump has little understanding of politics (or of past events), in his decision to enact this air-strike, and what the implications will be if he gets in deeper!

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v35/n24/seymour-m-hersh/whose-sarin


when propagandist start looping video of injured children 24/7, you know something is about to go down.


well, good thing Obama didn't pull the "trigger" back then when the videos first came out; but Trumps neocons have gotten him all "lathered up" and rearing to go!


Who cares about the children of Libya now that it’s a cesspool?


your "boy" will soon come up with a reason to "care"! ........Oil?
 Kj521
Joined: 11/16/2016
Msg: 228
The Butcher of Libya (Sec. Hillary Rodham Clinton)
Posted: 4/7/2017 7:15:02 PM
"You'll also see (by way of contrast) that Trump has little understanding of politics (or of past events), in his decision to enact this air-strike, and what the implications will be if he gets in deeper!"


Got any suggestions on how to create safe and no-fly zones without US intervention?
 lyinjovan
Joined: 4/3/2017
Msg: 229
The Butcher of Libya (Sec. Hillary Rodham Clinton)
Posted: 4/7/2017 7:50:24 PM
the problem with Trump is his motivation. Does he really care about the Syrian children...or is the attack a diversion and to show he is not a Putin puppet? I can't believe this man who cares about anybody anywhere all of a sudden started caring...so I go with the diversion and support the war president theory.
 Kj521
Joined: 11/16/2016
Msg: 230
The Butcher of Libya (Sec. Hillary Rodham Clinton)
Posted: 4/7/2017 7:53:44 PM
^^^^^There were many objectives achieved. See my above post. Setting the stage....is but one.


What is perceived as destabilizing the West? What is the "Threat to National Security?"

Can't implement a more thorough vetting system.....cut off the faucet.:)
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 231
The Butcher of Libya (Sec. Hillary Rodham Clinton)
Posted: 4/7/2017 8:09:49 PM
#228


Got any suggestions on how to create safe and no-fly zones without US intervention?


You are joking, right?.....if you are insinuating that this missile strike was done for the purpose of establishing (even remotely) safe/no-fly zones!


There were many objectives achieved. See my above post. Setting the stage....is but one.


The word outta the WH, is that there are no further interventions planned!

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#229


I can't believe this man who cares about anybody anywhere all of a sudden started caring...so I go with the diversion and support the war president theory.


I'd have to agree!
 Kj521
Joined: 11/16/2016
Msg: 232
The Butcher of Libya (Sec. Hillary Rodham Clinton)
Posted: 4/7/2017 8:14:31 PM
"You are joking, right?.....if you are insinuating that this missile strike was done for the purpose of establishing (even remotely) safe/no-fly zones!"


You didn't answer the question. How would you achieve the establishment of no-fly/safe zones given the current conditions?


vvvvvvv
"You would have stayed with in the established set of guidelines that prevented those issues in the past,"


Define.....and.....walk that through for me, please.
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 233
The Butcher of Libya (Sec. Hillary Rodham Clinton)
Posted: 4/7/2017 8:25:31 PM

You didn'the answer the question. How would you achieve the establishment of no-fly/safe zones given the current conditions?


You would have stayed with in the established set of guidelines that prevented those issues in the past, and not blown off close to a $100million in missiles and not got nothing done.
 N2U16
Joined: 9/25/2016
Msg: 234
The Butcher of Libya (Sec. Hillary Rodham Clinton)
Posted: 4/7/2017 8:39:25 PM

Have you ever heard of Al-Nusra?

Funny you should ask! I provided an article in Msg. 204 which provides a link to the article “Whose Sarin?” and “The Red Line and the Rat Line” both by Seymour Hersh.

2013 was a false flag!

The whole thing with Libya and Ambassador Stevens is that the U.S. was moving Gaddafi’s arsenal into Syria to arm the rebels. All the funding came from Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar which was agreed upon in 2012 with the U.S. The CIA and M16 were responsible for transporting weapons from Libya to Syria. Who was training, funding, and providing weapons to the Syrian rebels? How did they get or learn how to manufacture the sarin?

But we agree that is wasn’t Russia or Assad.


your "boy" will soon come up with a reason to "care"! ........Oil?

The “Butcher of Libya” and the Obama Administration already raped, pillaged, and secured the oil.
There is a reason why people in Libya refer to Sec. Hillary Rodham Clinton as the “Butcher of Libya”.
No one cares about the children of Libya anymore because there’s nothing to be gained.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 235
The Butcher of Libya (Sec. Hillary Rodham Clinton)
Posted: 4/8/2017 6:20:33 AM
#232


How would you achieve the establishment of no-fly/safe zones given the current conditions?


establishing a no-fly zone....will require brokering out an agreement with all the parties involved in that area (as was done in Iraq),which would mean Russia, US, Turkey, Jordan, and even Israel....not by bombing an empty airport.

Besides, you do not prevent gas attacks by establishing a no-fly zone...the gas can be delivered by cannon fire, surface to surface rockets, etc.

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#232


How did they get or learn how to manufacture the sarin?


The same way everybody else learns...by bringing in the right pple, and equipment to produce something that doesn't need sophisticated technology to make.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 236
Trump really knows how to bomb in real estate.
Posted: 4/8/2017 6:26:20 AM
"Russia is stopping air communication with the US over syria, not a great thing because they are nit happy with what the US did. TOUGH!! Finally..."

>>>tough for who? what does an event that finally happened have to do with who its tough on, and why are we celebrating that its FINALLY tough on them?

"Got any suggestions on how to create a safe "no-fly zone" without US intervention?"

>>>Why sure, first, we have to worry about how much other NATO countries are spending. Because that kind of diplomacy really makes people want to be helpful.

so now the airport is in use again, Chump got his gun off by copying Bill Clinton's wag the dog, and There Will Be Sanctions.

wait, isn't that what Clinton and Obama do?
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 237
Trump is President
Posted: 4/8/2017 7:11:48 AM
"""""Dee, what evidence do you want?

And what evidence do you have as to who really did it?"""""

What evidence do I want? Any.

There is no evidence of who did it. Therefore, why strike?
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Hawking, what "influence" do you think Russia had on the election?
Based on what? Msnbc talking doesn't count.
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Is Russia stopping communications?
And if Russia did, hmmm, why would they when "colluding" with Trump?"

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Assad had nothing to gain by using chemical weapons when he was at that moment winning the war.

It wouldn't even make sense for Assad to use such weapons to get new planes from Russia, as will now happen in response to the USA blowing up some of Assad's planes.

The neocons got to Trump. Simple. But not good. Not good at all.
( And maybe even the leftists crying "the chiiiiildren, the chiiiildren." People die in war. )

Many Trump supporters are as annoyed as Clinton supporters were when he decided to go with NAFTA after campaigning against it.
As one said on the radio, he was "jumping off the Trump train."

Well, Trump did get the Supreme Court person appointed.
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 238
Trump is President
Posted: 4/8/2017 7:26:12 AM
Remember kids, unless Dee understands it, it did not happen.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 239
Trump is President
Posted: 4/8/2017 7:36:16 AM
It is not a matter of understanding but evidence.
There may be some.

No one here has shown or discussed any. Just a lot of conjecture.


Please share any that you know.

You haven't yet.

( Are you also Renaissance man? You need to watch it because sometimes you forget which name you are using at moments.)
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 240
Trump is President
Posted: 4/8/2017 7:50:53 AM

No one here has shown or discussed any. Just a lot of conjecture.


Funny thing is, you have not proven he has not done it.

So based on your logic it must have been him as I have yet to see you disprove that it wasn't.

And if you know, why haven't you shared that yet?
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 241
Trump is President
Posted: 4/8/2017 11:42:05 AM
So there is none.

Got it.

Thanks for conceding.

When you find some, please post it.

Thanks.


 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 242
Trump is making his supporters look like cuks
Posted: 4/8/2017 11:45:57 AM

So there is none.


Nope, there are tons, but due to the fact you are a shill you must hold station and play stupid it just appears that way.






In order to maintain the highest quality forums you are restricted to having no more then 2 of the last 10 posts on a thread.

Since 2 of the last 10 posts are yours you can not post to this thread.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 243
Trump is President
Posted: 4/8/2017 4:43:12 PM
#237 says


The neocons got to Trump. Simple. But not good. Not good at all.


Yep, they did!
They forced him to take "action" in defense of the very children that he slammed the door against coming in


( And maybe even the leftists crying "the chiiiiildren, the chiiiildren." People die in war. )


The leftists? Really.....who Trump totally ignores!

Its funny that the "leftists" didn't get to Obama in 2013
When he said, that any singular act (like what Trump did) is gonna serve to make us look weaker!
But because that was said by a "blackman" the GOP tarred him as being weak, and indecisive

The proof is:
That the airport is up and running in less than 24Hrs (meaning that little damage was inflicted)....with planes bombing the same group of Pple that were gassed................with both Assad & Putin giving Trump the "ONE FINGER SALUTE".
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 244
Trump is President
Posted: 4/8/2017 10:43:32 PM
Sweden's open-door immigration policies are being looked at now.....Wow the light finally came on...DUH YIKES!!!!
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 245
let's see if Chump draws another red line
Posted: 4/9/2017 4:14:19 AM
aww, what a nice deflection, John. Your hero's attempt to wag the dog like Clinton failed to impress the Chinese, and since Chump didn't get Congressional Approval, there ain't a whole lot he can do after the No Dong Strike struck out. I guess he shouldn't have asked Putin what to do in order to look like a strongman.
 Kj521
Joined: 11/16/2016
Msg: 246
let's see if Chump draws another red line
Posted: 4/9/2017 5:30:57 AM
"Your hero's attempt to wag the dog like Clinton failed to impress the Chinese"

How do you figure, Mr. Gto?


Have to say.....during the Syria strike....even though my initial reaction was rather emotional given my personal investment in a non interventionist foreign policy stance.....it was the timing and with whom the President was hosting that was the most interesting facet that quite puzzled me.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 247
let's see if Chump draws another red line
Posted: 4/9/2017 5:38:21 AM
Why should there be anything else done in Syria?
He did tell his supporters that he was not into regime change.
Technically, he can still say that.

IMO there should not even have been a strike, fake or not.

What do you think needs to be done in Syria other than defeat ISIS, ISIL, whatever?

What shows that it was directed by Putin?

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First leftists clamored for "something must be done "for the children."

Then when something is done, the complaint is that 1) it was done at all 2) there is no plan for what will be done "next," as if a next is required. (Is it, IYO?) and 3) that it was done without Congressional approval.
(I used to support BClinton sending a couple of planes over to bomb when he had evidence that the people he bombed were culpable. He did send warnings ahead of time for everyone to clear out to limit human casualties. Maybe the leftists crying about the children actually got to him. Maybe it was like some parents shove a cookie in a crying child's mouth to stop the crying. )

(My problem with doing it at all is that there is no evidence that Syria, the government, used chemical weapons. Are leftists now saying the same thing? )
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 248
let's see if Chump draws another red line
Posted: 4/9/2017 6:36:37 AM

(My problem with doing it at all is that there is no evidence that Syria, the government, used chemical weapons. Are leftists now saying the same thing? )


Ok folks shows over, Dee has not received the proof yet, so clearly this stuff did not happen.
 Doremi_Fasolatido
Joined: 2/14/2009
Msg: 249
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let's see if Chump draws another red line
Posted: 4/9/2017 6:53:27 AM
Russia=bad cop
Trump=good cop
Now Trump, with Russias blessing can look like a decisive leader and boost his lagging poll numbers. Also, this action takes attention away from the investigation into possible Russian collusion regarding Trump and his administration.

Could this be a possible scenario? It's one of the first things I thought right after this all went down. IMHO, of course.
 LOLTrump
Joined: 3/7/2017
Msg: 250
let's see if Chump draws another red line
Posted: 4/9/2017 7:03:08 AM
Ok so this may come as a surprize but,

Donald Trump personally profited from missile-maker Raytheon’s stock jump after his Syria attack
Tom Boggioni 08 Apr 2017 at 09:48 ET

While the world is dealing with both the implications and the fall-out from President Donald Trump’s missile attack on a Syrian airfield on Thursday, the manufacturer of the Tomahawk missile used in the attack is seeing their stock surge which is good news for their investors — including the president.


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/donald-trump-personally-profited-from-missile-maker-raytheons-stock-jump-after-his-syria-attack/
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