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 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 5201
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The Stupidity of Reneging on the Nuclear Deal
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/the-stupidity-of-reneging-on-the-nuclear-deal/

Trump is expected to announce his decision on the nuclear deal this afternoon, and everyone assumes that he will decide to terminate sanctions waivers and withdraw the U.S. from the deal. Secretary of State Pompeo confirmed as much in a conference call with his European counterparts that the president:

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told his colleagues from the E3 — France, Germany and the United Kingdom — on Friday that President Trump has rejected the understandings that were drafted with American negotiators over the last four months regarding a possible fix of the Iran nuclear deal.

Ever since Trump delivered his ridiculous ultimatum to our European allies earlier this year, the charade of negotiating a “fix” to a deal that doesn’t need fixing has been an attempt to shift blame for eventual U.S. withdrawal. Instead of simply quitting the deal outright months ago, Trump has feigned an interest in keeping the deal alive when the changes he demanded would have amounted to a violation of it. There was never a chance that France, Britain, and Germany could agree to Trump’s terms without violating their own commitments, and now the charade has finally come to an end.

No one can claim to be surprised that this is how things have turned out. The writing has been on the wall since at least the middle of last year, and Trump made his hatred for the deal impossible to miss during the campaign. Between the constant misrepresentations and lies about the deal from his party’s Iran hawks and Trump’s own ignorance, the deal never stood much of a chance. The fact that it was a major part of Obama’s legacy was probably enough by itself to ensure that Trump would reject it. That is what made the charade of trying to “fix” the deal so absurd, since it was obvious that Trump had already made up his mind about it long ago.

All of the other parties to the agreement have expressed their desire to keep it alive even without U.S. participation. If the Trump administration is intent on reimposing sanctions and enforcing them, that sets the stage for an unnecessary and destructive fight with the EU. Reneging on the deal drives a wedge between the U.S. and Europe that harms relations with our allies for no good reason, and it will likely make our allies think twice before they support another major U.S. diplomatic initiative.

Iranian hard-liners will be pleased by Trump’s decision, since it lets them claim vindication and accuse their domestic opponents of making the mistake of trusting the U.S. Hard-liners in the U.S. and Iran feed off of each other, and when they are in the ascendant in one country it boosts hard-liners in the other. Armed conflict between U.S. forces and Iran and its proxies is going to become more likely as a result of this decision, and that could escalate into a larger war faster than anyone expects. Once the U.S. is out of the deal, it won’t be long before we hear the usual drumbeat for military action against Iran.

Reneging on the nuclear deal doesn’t serve any American interests and does significant harm to several of them. Other states will be less willing to trust the U.S. to honor its obligations. That will raise the costs of every negotiation the U.S. conducts with other governments during the current administration. Every government that cooperated with the U.S. to secure the deal will remember how Trump simply threw away a major diplomatic achievement for the sake of spite and ideology, and they will be less inclined to cooperate with Washington the next time their help is needed.

Withdrawing from the JCPOA is a huge unforced error and self-inflicted wound whose full costs we won’t realize until later, and it represents a serious setback to the cause of nonproliferation. Trump is walking away from a deal that got the U.S. almost everything it wanted at virtually no cost, and he is doing it mainly because it allows him to repudiate his predecessor’s work. It is a perfect example of putting petty self-interest and pique ahead of the interests of the United States, and it has absolutely nothing to do with putting America first.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 5202
What good things has Trump accomplished?
Posted: 5/9/2018 3:47:55 PM

Those higher gas prices are going to benefit only a very small percentage of Trump’s base: basically those in the Dakotas and other fracking areas – the rest of them, and most of the rest of us non-rich people, are going to suffer like it’s 2009 or 2014.

What those poorly educated and easily snookered don't seem to realize is that while they're praising the fact that of their scant fellow citizens who got a $1,000 bonus, which amounts to a whopping $83.33 per month, but no actual pay raise thereafter, will have it eaten up and then some with the increase in gas prices and all things associated with the increase in gas prices. Those who didn't get that whopping $4.16 per day bonus will be even poorer - and hopefully angrier at Trump.

As I said, that's not the biggest ramification of idiotstick reneging on the Iran agreement - one could explain about more attacks on western soil, a war between Syria and Israel which the States will be drawn into, aligning with allies to broker a more fine tuned agreement by staying in than walking away, etc. etc....but, it's apparent, and has been for some time, that Trump's worshippers are just far too stupid to understand...well, pretty much anything about cause and effect, not just for their own little corner of the world but elsewhere. A lack of cognitive ability can be overlooked when it's a dysfunction - arrogant stupidity, not so much.
 APRILIKESWHITEROSES
Joined: 4/6/2018
Msg: 5203
What good things has Trump accomplished?
Posted: 5/9/2018 5:47:13 PM

What good things has Trump accomplished?


Kim Jong says Trump summit 'historic' chance to build 'good future': KCNA
It was the first time Kim is known to have acknowledged the planned meeting with Trump.!


======================================


Trump Dumps Iran Deal — Hallelujah!
By Andrew C. McCarthy


President Trump’s withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal is the greatest boost for American and global security in decades.


If you think that is an exaggeration, then you evidently think the Obama administration’s injection of well over a hundred billion dollars — some of it in the form of cash bribes — into the coffers of the world’s leading state sponsor of anti-American terrorism was either trivial or, more delusionally, a master-stroke of statecraft.

Of course, there’s a lot of delusion going around. After repeatedly vowing to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons (with signature “If you like your health insurance, you can keep your health insurance” candor), President Obama, and his trusty factotum John Kerry, made an agreement that guaranteed Iran would obtain a nuclear weapon.

They rationalized this dereliction with the nostrum that an unverifiable delay in nuclear-weapons development, coupled with Iran’s coup in reestablishing lucrative international trade relations, would tame the revolutionary jihadist regime, such that it would be a responsible government by the time the delay ended. Meantime, we would exercise an oh-so-sophisticated brand of “strategic patience” as the mullahs continued abetting terrorism, mass-murdering Syrians, menacing other neighbors, evolving ballistic missiles, crushing domestic dissent, and provoking American military forces — even abducting our sailors on the high seas.



In point of fact, war was not the alternative to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. War was the result of the JCPOA.
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The JCPOA made Iran better at war than it has ever been — and that’s saying something.
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The JCPOA empowered the totalitarians. Trump’s exit squeezes them.
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Obama did not seek to make his deal a treaty precisely because he knew America was not giving its word — the public did not support the deal.
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The deal was a farce that literally obligated the United States not merely to accede to Iran’s enrichment of uranium but to help protect Iran’s nuclear facilities. (See JCPOA Article 10, Annex III, Sec. 10 (“Nuclear Security”):.........................................................

For these and myriad other reasons, the JCPOA was a debacle.
Yet Obama apologists posit two other objections to Trump’s cashiering of the former president’s legacy agreement: abandoning the deal
(1) isolates the United States and
(2) suggests that the United States cannot be trusted to keep its word.
WHAT NONSENSE.!!

Far from isolating the United States, President Trump is proving that the United States is the indispensable nation. Nations will be put to a choice: You can have access to the U.S. economy or you can have commerce with Iran — not both. Our European allies know this is not a real choice: They can’t isolate us, they need us, our markets, and the umbrella of our protection. They’re angry because they’d like to pocket the benefits they get from us while cutting profitable deals with our enemies. That’s not “isolating us”; that’s a tantrum. They will get over it in short order if the president is steadfast about enforcement.

Moreover, the JCPOA did not represent America’s word, it represented Obama’s word. Our Constitution and our laws are no secret. Our European allies know full well that a president has no power unilaterally to bind the United States to an international agreement. We give our word when we enter a treaty or enact legislation that cements commitments. Obama did not seek to make his deal a treaty precisely because he knew America was not giving its word — the public did not support the deal, which would have been roundly defeated if subjected to the Constitution’s process for ratifying international commitments.


Finally, we must sound a cautionary note. These columns pleaded with Congress to reject the self-defeating Corker-Cardin legislation that helped Obama create the veneer of congressional approval. Corker-Cardin turned the Treaty Clause on its head: Instead of rejecting the deal unless a two-thirds supermajority of the Senate approved it, as the Constitution requires, it portrayed the deal as “not disapproved” unless two-thirds of both Houses voted it down — enabling Democrats to help Obama prevail.

This counter-constitutional charade never had the legal force to ratify the JCPOA (although it did provide fodder for Obama officials and foreign governments to claim that the agreement has binding status under international law). But there is a danger. Because Congress’s sanctions are statutory, they could be repealed by statute. Corker-Cardin is statutory law. As we warned, Obama Democrats, Iran, and transnational progressives everywhere will now contend that, even if it did not make the JCPOA legally binding, Corker-Cardin did have the effect of repealing the sanctions. If this is correct, the sanctions would not “snap back” into place; Congress would have to reenact them.

In our current legislative environment, that would be a steep mountain to climb. But the Trump administration must be ready with a strategy to combat this claim and rebuild (and strengthen) the sanctions — in addition to pressuring Tehran on other fronts.

That is tomorrow’s problem. For today, President Trump has reestablished that the United States and the world are more secure when we confront our enemies rather than fantasizing that they are suitable negotiating partners — even as they bray, “Death to America!”

-By Andrew C. McCarthy








 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 5204
Trump brings back the neo con plan for the mideast
Posted: 5/9/2018 7:16:29 PM
I love it! So Hillaryous!

We have a deal with the Iranians to stop nukes, but it allows missiles, so let's get rid of the deal and they can have all the nukes and missiles they want! Baby, don't enjoy the bathwater too long, we're throwing you both out the window. The Iranians used to play with Chinese Silkworms and I think French Exocets, so thinking banning any missile tests is going to keep missiles out of the hands of Hezbollah is a sucker's deal. Meanwhile, that cash we gave the Iranians? yeah, that's THEIR cash, from the days of the Shah. Hard to bribe anyone with their own swag. Ransom payment? how about the 5 americans Chump left behind in Iran before he listened to the neocon John Bolton on revising the PNAC plan?

Iran is taking over Iraq? uh, we invited Iran in. First the neocons backed Ahmad Chalabi, and when he didn't show up for work, threw things over to the Shi'a who rule the country. That was George Bush's great contribution. Bibi did do a dog and pony show recently about Iran...using docs from 2013. Chump had to hire Israeli company Black Cube to find dirt that didn't exist. Same ol' BS, nothing new. including the classic, "you are with us or against us" threat to the world.

literally....Bush league.
 Llove2LaughToo
Joined: 4/14/2018
Msg: 5205
Comrade Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 5/9/2018 7:39:01 PM
Did anybody heard? Michael Cohen, Trump's personal attorney caught selling access to Trump, making millions off the office of the presidency. Does corrupt pay for play ring a bell? Didn't Comrade Trump promised to drain the swamp?

MAGA: My Attorney Got A rrested.
 Sandbyday
Joined: 7/25/2017
Msg: 5206
Comrade Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 5/9/2018 11:16:55 PM
Nope. And do you know why nobody heard?
Because it's fake news.
Very much like the majority of your posts.

ha

ha

ha.
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 5207
view profile
History
What good things has Trump accomplished?
Posted: 5/9/2018 11:42:41 PM
Watching Trump greeting the men detained in NK.
 ja6425
Joined: 1/16/2018
Msg: 5208
Comrade Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 5/9/2018 11:50:38 PM
Hawking, how is being very educated like Eric Schneiderman was turn out to be a liberal who did what he did? I realize you may have never known who he is even though he made sure to be "known" to the whole country so I kinda doubt you didn't know about him. So whether you do now or then, how does it feel to see a man who did what he did, an educated liberal???? Hypocritical thinking is amazing isn't it? Funny how you say that blacks who voted for the President are low lifes because according to you, they are not educated. Wonder where you classify "Mr educated Schneiderman"????

Thank God for the released hostages.
 Llove2LaughToo
Joined: 4/14/2018
Msg: 5209
Comrade Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 5/10/2018 4:06:01 AM

Msg: 5216
Nope. And do you know why nobody heard?
Because it's fake news.
Very much like the majority of your posts.


Denial it's not just a river in Egypt.


https://youtu.be/aq2iTuhpisk




Msg: 5217
Watching Trump greeting the men detained in NK.


About time since two of the three men held by North Korea were detained during Trump's presidency.

MAGA: My Attorney Got A rrested.
 Sandbyday
Joined: 7/25/2017
Msg: 5210
Comrade Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 5/10/2018 12:35:21 PM

Michael Cohen, Trump's personal attorney caught selling access to Trump

Mueller interviewed all of these people that paid Cohen this money months ago and didn’t think anything of it.

It's Stormy Daniels lawyer that is making the "new" allegations.

Equivalent to = FAKE NEWS!

Once again the libs are putting all their hopes and dreams of impeachment, which by the way is never going to happen (talk about a year and a half of DENIAL hahahahahahaha), on the moldy washed up porn star. They are proud to have the public fornicator as their mascot.

Hillfuckinglarious.
 HawkingJr
Joined: 4/16/2007
Msg: 5211
view profile
History
What good things has Trump accomplished?
Posted: 5/10/2018 12:51:46 PM
“Hawking, how is being very educated like Eric Schneiderman was turn out to be a liberal who did what he did?”

Yeah, I’m not really sure what you’re trying to say there, because there’s some sort of disconnect with grammar and I’m a little rusty on my Deplorable, what with having not lived in Alabama for a couple of decades. But in “defense” of Schneiderman (who I mentioned previously in another thread so unlike you obviously I’m not ignoring problem children whose political leanings I generally agree with), at least he had the decency to immediately resign upon being exposed, unlike Trump, who has no decency whatsoever. I will say it appears Schneiderman’s level of hypocrisy knows no bounds and is almost shameful, but again, in the end he did the right thing... unlike Trump. I’m no Schneiderman fan – heck, as a non-New Yorker, I didn’t even know who he was until a few days before this unveiling when talk stirred up about state charges against Trump and/or Cohen if federal pardons came into play for their transgressions.

Certainly if you’re suggesting that *I* was suggesting that the “non-poorly educated” are better behaved than the poorly educated, then you have no idea what I was talking about. Bill “Rhodes Scholar” Clinton is about as educated as you can get, yet you’d be hard-pressed to find a progressive who’d claim his Lewinsky behavior was acceptable. The main problem with the “poorly educated” is that they tend not to be critical thinkers, as in they emotionally latch onto one savior and cease looking for flaws. Most highly educated defenders of Trump (and I see a lot of them on cable news) are different: they see the flaws and don’t care, because the end result is all that matters. He’s had a lot of such people in his administration, the ones who are 100% supportive in public (including of his lies), then call him an “idiot” and a “moron” in what they think is private. The ethics of this can be debated among the highly educated, whereas with the poorly educated, there is no debate. So it is no shock that Schneiderman turns out to be a highly educated abuser – morals have little to do with education or intelligence. Most Nazis were intelligent and highly educated, yet still thought the moral thing to do was stick Jews in gas chambers. But who was carrying out those barbaric commands without any critical analysis of their deeds? The poorly educated. People who just do what their “saviors” tell them to do without much thought. Trump tells the poorly educated what to think and what to do and they just do it.

"Mueller interviewed all of these people that paid Cohen this money months ago and didn’t think anything of it."

I'm pretty sure the reason New York's Southern District is currently investigating Cohen is because of Mueller's findings related to such things. But I would tend to agree that there probably wasn't strong evidence of "Russian collusion" among their Cohen-related findings if Mueller's team didn't hold onto his case, so I'm not sure this suspicious-looking Russian oligarch thing will amount to more than a hill of beans. But if Clinton supposedly selling access to the State Department is a bad thing in the conservative world, then there is no way they can consider what Cohen was trying to do a non-issue. That said, nobody has been (and likely ever will be) prosecuted for Clinton's State department dealings, so Cohen might avoid legal issues despite the shadiness, but he's obviously done enough illegal stuff to get raided.

Apparently these reports were enough to freak out Giuliani (who foolishly just quit his day job to work on Trump's case full time) and the more sane Jay Sekulow because as soon as they heard about it (so I'm guessing Mueller hadn't told them nor had it leaked out before this), they called Trump and asked him what he knew (he claimed he knew nothing, but surely Trump wouldn't lie to his lawyers... again... would he?). And this isn't merely "rumors" and "unnamed sources" -- Giuliani told the press this conversation happened!

*******

Burn of the week: Chuck Schumer retweeting Trump’s bullying “Crying Chuck Schumer” tweet with the hashtag “BeBest”. I nearly spit up my soda. I wonder if his cousin Amy came up with that one for him.
 Sandbyday
Joined: 7/25/2017
Msg: 5212
Comrade Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 5/10/2018 12:58:08 PM

Watching Trump greeting the men detained in NK.

What?
We didn’t have to send any pallets of a billion dollars in cash in the middle of the night? We didn’t have to give up three top North Korean terrorists in order to get back these hostages? No wonder the media’s so upset about this, because everywhere you look Obama is being made to look a fool!
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 5213
Comrade Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 5/10/2018 1:09:56 PM
^^^^ hahaha That's quit funny.

All the pallets of money are being used to pay off Russians that got Trump elected. Anything let is going to pay off porn stars and Playboy Bunny's. They have already started putting money into a fund for Melania when she is done as FL cause you can guarantee she is staying at the WH right now on the promise of a huge, make that YUGE, payoff. I figure Melania will get a million a month and then a bonus of 5 million per year she stays with that sick Marmalade Mussolini.

So yup, your tax dollars are being spend wisely...lol

What has he done - nothing but bring shame to your country.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 5214
Comrade Trump is the Lying King
Posted: 5/10/2018 1:26:48 PM

Mueller interviewed all of these people that paid Cohen this money months ago and didn’t think anything of it.
It's Stormy Daniels lawyer that is making the "new" allegations.
Equivalent to = FAKE NEWS!

Here's the problem with calling news fake. Did you know about Cohen selling access to Trump prior to this week, even though Mueller had apparently previously interviewed Novartis, AT&T, et al? No? Then it's news to you and everyone else that just heard about it, no matter if Meuller previously interviewed those company officials or not. If Trump says he didn't know that Cohen was selling access to him, which companies were involved and the amounts paid and on what dates, that's apparently NEWS to Trump as well....unless, of course, you figure it isn't news to the swamp king who is so fond of using the term "fake news" when he's caught lying more than 3,000 times and uses the term because his worshipers are so stupid they believe him.

Stormy Daniels' lawyer isn't making new allegations...he's just reporting on what he has uncovered that's news to you and everyone else, other than Meuller and his team.


They are proud to have the public fornicator as their mascot.

Which one are you talking about? The Fat, orange, idiot, sleazeball who was/is fornicating those he pays to have hushed up, upstanding individual that he is?

As for Trump getting impeached, there's small chance of that, given the GOP has no backbone and, therefore, can be deemed as sleazy and swampy as he is. It's boiling down to MacDonalds and Coke to come to the rescue to put the old, ineffective, barking dog down.
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 5215
view profile
History
Our greatest president
Posted: 5/10/2018 2:20:13 PM
Where is Mustang? I'm waiting for him to say Trump wasn't instrumental in getting the detainees released, and that Kim Jon Un only did so because their visas were up
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 5216
What good things has Trump accomplished?
Posted: 5/10/2018 2:29:23 PM

Apparently these reports were enough to freak out Giuliani (who foolishly just quit his day job to work on Trump's case full time) and the more sane Jay Sekulow because as soon as they heard about it (so I'm guessing Mueller hadn't told them nor had it leaked out before this), they called Trump and asked him what he knew (he claimed he knew nothing, but surely Trump wouldn't lie to his lawyers... again... would he?). And this isn't merely "rumors" and "unnamed sources" -- Giuliani told the press this conversation happened!

I wonder where the 4.4 million went, after it went into cohen's "business" account.
I think Gulliani's still trying to "get ahead" of revelations.
Trump was effectively using that money as if it were his own, - he paid stormy off from that account...

Both AT&T and KAI stood to benefit (hugely) from preferential access to the president.
So much for "draining the swamp".
Trump and Cohen were using "pay to play" from day one of his presidency.

While it's both entertaining, and yugely embarrassing to the orange fuhrer, I hope Avenatti doesn't overstep the mark, and get punished for leaking the information he seems to be finding...

Giuliani also said Trump "wasn't aware of the situation in which he got money from any of that group that was mentioned originally. I doubt it. Yeah, I doubt it. He didn't know about any of the original stuff."

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/10/politics/rudy-giuliani-michael-cohen-trump/index.html

Sounds to me like that money found its way to Trump, and they know that Meuller must already know that.
Trump will claim ignorance, but then he also claimed not to know about the payments to stormy, when he clearly did.

Surely they've got enough on him, by now?

Trump's trying to create so many "foreign affairs emergencies", that he can't be pulled away to attend questioning.
All of his own making, of course.
They're just delaying the inevitable now.

-Orange jump-suit, and a good haircut.
LOCK HIM UP!!!!!!!

Just my humble opinion....
(Don't cry johnny)
 APRILIKESWHITEROSES
Joined: 4/6/2018
Msg: 5217
What good things has Trump accomplished?
Posted: 5/10/2018 3:57:26 PM
WOW.!!..:((




Obama official (WHS) Ben Rhodes speaks cynically to the media.!!
These are the real facts of how the Obama administration lied about this terrible Iran deal.

By Paul Farhi

Obama official Ben Rhodes speaks to the media and says he pushed a ‘narrative’ to media to sell the Iran nuclear deal.


Rhodes, 38, said in the article that it was easy to shape a favorable impression of the proposed agreement because of the inexperience of many of those covering the issue.


“All these newspapers used to have foreign bureaus,” he said. “Now they don’t. They call us to explain to them what’s happening in Moscow and Cairo. Most of the outlets are reporting on world events from Washington. The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns. ”THAT'S A SEA CHANGE. THEY LITERALLY KNOW NOTHING.!!


One of President Obama’s top national security advisers led journalists to believe a misleading timeline of U.S. negotiations with Iran over a nuclear agreement and relied on inexperienced reporters to create an “echo chamber” that helped sway public opinion to seal the deal, according to a lengthy magazine profile.

Ben Rhodes, the deputy national security adviser for strategic communications, told the New York Times magazine that he helped promote a “narrative” that the administration started negotiations with Iran after the supposedly moderate Hassan Rouhani was elected president in 2013. In fact, the administration’s negotiations actually began earlier, with the country’s powerful Islamic faction, and the framework for an agreement was hammered out before Rouhani’s election.

Rhodes, 38, said in the article that it was easy to shape a favorable impression of the proposed agreement because of the inexperience of many of those covering the issue.

“All these newspapers used to have foreign bureaus,” he said. “Now they don’t. They call us to explain to them what’s happening in Moscow and Cairo. Most of the outlets are reporting on world events from Washington.

The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns. That’s a sea change. They literally know nothing.”

Rhodes set up a team of staffers who were focused on promoting the deal, which apparently included the feeding of talking points at useful times in the news cycle to foreign policy experts who were favorably disposed toward it. “We created an echo chamber,” he told the magazine. “They [the seemingly independent experts] were saying things that validated what we had given them to say.”

The manager of the White House’s Twitter feed on Iran, Tanya Somanader, said one reporter, Laura Rozen of the Al-Monitor news site, became “my RSS feed. She would just find everything and retweet it.”

Rozen, in an email, said she does not know Somanader and that David Samuels, the author of the magazine piece, did not ask her about the staffer’s claim before publishing his story. “As I read it, [Somanader] says my Twitter feed was a source of info for her .?.?. Samuels seems to mischaracterize that to say the opposite.”


Rhodes’s assistant, Ned Price, told the newspaper that the administration would feed “color” — background details — to their “compadres” in the press corps, “and the next thing I know, lots of these guys are in the dot-com publishing space, and have huge Twitter followings, and they’ll be putting this message out on their own.”


In the article, Rhodes speaks contemptuously of the Washington policy and media establishment, including The Washington Post and the New York Times, referring to them as “the blob” that was subject to conventional thinking about foreign policy.


“We had test-drives to know who was going to be able to carry our message effectively, and how to use outside groups like [the anti-nuclear group] Ploughshares, the Iran Project and whomever else. So we knew the tactics that worked,” Rhodes says. Speaking of Republicans and other opponents, including Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Rhodes adds that he knew “we drove them crazy.”

Rhodes’s boss, President Obama, has been a strong and consistent advocate for the agreement with Iran, which requires the country to curtail its nuclear program — notably its ability to produce fissile material that could be used in nuclear bombs — in exchange for the lifting of economic sanctions. He reinforced the misleading administration timeline in announcing the agreement last July. “Today, after two years of negotiations, the United States, together with our international partners, has achieved something that decades of animosity has not,” he said then.


Rhodes’s freewheeling and cynical comments reminded several White House and national security reporters of an infamous 2010 story in Rolling Stone magazine in which Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, and aides mocked civilian government officials, including Vice President Biden. McChrystal apologized for the comments but later tendered his resignation, which Obama accepted.


The Times article notes that Rhodes is a published short-story writer and aspiring novelist who is a skilled “storyteller.”


“He Is The Master Shaper And Retailer Of Obama’s Foreign-Policy Narratives.”





 Llove2LaughToo
Joined: 4/14/2018
Msg: 5218
What good things has Trump accomplished?
Posted: 5/10/2018 5:34:39 PM

Msg: 5220
Mueller interviewed all of these people that paid Cohen this money months ago and didn’t think anything of it.
It's Stormy Daniels lawyer that is making the "new" allegations.
Equivalent to = FAKE NEWS!


So you are saying that even though this information is coming from Cohen own bank records, both Novartis and Att acknowledged they paid to get better insigth into the president and Novartis admitted paying 1.2 million dollars, Att paid 200,000 thousand dollars, this is fake news?

People, please take your blinders off. Hillf*ckinglarious is right, you are sadly delusional.

MAGA: My Attorney Got A rrested.


One company, pharmaceutical giant Novartis, acknowledged Wednesday it paid Michael Cohen $1.2 million for services, though they ended after a single meeting. Others, including some with major regulatory matters before the new administration, acknowledged payments totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars over at least several months.

The lawyers wrote that some of the information Avenatti published Tuesday did appear to come from Cohen's actual bank records.

Three companies confirmed the payments, including Novartis and AT&T, both saying Cohen's Essential Consultants was hired to help them understand the new president during the early days of the Trump administration.

Novartis said in a statement that it paid Cohen $100,000 a month for a year-long contract, thinking the longtime New York legal "fixer" with few Washington ties could advise on health care matters.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/trump-lawyer-sold-insight-into-his-high-powered-client
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 5219
Our greatest president
Posted: 5/10/2018 8:14:40 PM
1) no, we didn't pay NK back its money, b/c we didn't have it. But we had Iran's money.

2) it will be interesting if the Cohen cash-in gets labeled "lobbying". Is he a declared lobbyist?

3) "I'm waiting for Mustang to tell us Trump wasn't instrumental in the detainee release"

>>>According to Trump at 3am, the prisoners were treated well by NK. So apparently Trump thinks NK gets the credit. But what did Trump do to get the hostages released--did calling the leader Little Rocket Man, do the trick? Did Trump ever meet with the NK's? From what I remember, South Korea and Pompeo have. Maybe i'm just tired.

4) April's report sounds like...the Republicans selling WMD in next door Iraq. Goodness. at least it only killed as many Americans as 9/11 and created ISIS. But let's talk about the Clintons again, and how many times the Republicans investigated and found nothing. Oh wait, let's talk Benghazi...and how many times the Republicans investigated and found nothing. Hey I know, let's stick Fooliani in front of a TV camera again. Maybe he'll get the lie right the third time.

its interesting that Fooliani made it sound like Cohen often handed out cover-up cash. But for the moment, if a Dem had to run for office, they should put up an ad with Fooliani telling the truth, and Chump lying thru his teeth to cover it up and claim Fooliani doesn't know WTF. Then go to a Chump clip where he claims he hired the best.

the incompetency is Hillaryous.
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
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Posted: 5/10/2018 8:38:17 PM
Mustang, Wasn't Pompeo going to NK on behalf of Trump, or was it his choice for a vacation? Yes, little rocket man probably did it. He knows the gloves are off.
 ja6425
Joined: 1/16/2018
Msg: 5221
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Posted: 5/10/2018 8:45:21 PM
The ‘Russian Collusion’ Trial Is On, And Mueller May Be The First Casualty

RICHARD POLLOCK

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Lawyers for Russian company Concord Management and Consulting, LLC, formally entered a “not guilty” plea in federal court Monday in a case special counsel Robert Mueller probably never thought would happen.

Mueller, weathering significant criticism that his Russian collusion case was thin, unveiled a grandiose indictment Feb. 16 against 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies. The 13 Russians in question were charged with waging “information warfare” in the United States, interfering with the 2016 presidential election, and conspiracy to defraud the United States.

Mueller generated headlines with the February indictment, safe in the knowledge the 13 Russians were beyond U.S. jurisdiction. Therefore, there would be no trial — only sensational Russian collusion accusations.


Mueller may now have to try the case, and Concord’s lawyers have put the special counsel on notice. The Russian company’s lawyers intend to invoke “discovery” to obtain U.S. intelligence about what they knew of Russian activities.

“I guess Mueller thought it was a freebie, for sure,” former federal prosecutor Andrew C. McCarthy told The Daily Caller News Foundation after the court proceeding.

“He thought it could make this association (of Russian collusion) and it would never be challenged in court,” McCarthy, also a National Review contributing editor, said.

Concord retained the services of two attorneys at mega law firm Reed Smith, and the company is demanding a speedy trial. The lawyers indicated they were going to exercise Concord’s rights under discovery to examine all of Mueller’s “evidence” of the conspiracy.

In starting Wednesday’s trial, Eric A. Dubelier, a Reed Smith law partner, entered a “not guilty” plea in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. He also repeated his client’s interest for a “speedy trial.”

McCarthy called Mueller’s entire indictment an “unforced error.”

“One thing you never want to do is to indict in a case that you’re not prepared to try,” McCarthy said.

Mueller tried to delay Wednesday’s hearing and floated a claim Concord had not been properly served notice.

“Until the Court has an opportunity to determine if Concord was properly served, it would be inadvisable to conduct an initial appearance and arraignment at which important rights will be communicated and a plea entertained,” Mueller’s lawyers filed in federal court.

But Concord opposed the motion. “The Special Counsel is not entitled to special rules and is required like the Attorney General to follow the rules of the Court,” Dubelier stated in his response to Mueller.

U.S. District Court Judge Dabney Friedrich agreed with Concord and rejected Mueller’s request for a delay in the trial without comment, which led to Wednesday’s arraignment.

Concord wants a “speedy trial” as provided by federal law, the company’s lawyers also repeated Wednesday. The case will resume July 9.

It is the second legal headache for Mueller in two weeks. Last week, federal Judge T.S. Ellis, III, a Reagan appointee, threatened to throw out the special counsel’s indictment of Paul Manafort since the charges against President Donald Trump’s former campaign manager did not relate to any charges of Russian collusion. Instead, the charges were tied to banking activities that went as far back as 2005 — more than a decade before Trump announced his intention to run for president.
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 5222
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Posted: 5/11/2018 4:44:01 AM
Johnny,
That guy seems to have forgotten that many of trump's "aides" were also indicted....

The only reason Trump is creating all these international shitstorms is to prevent the Meuller noose tightening around his neck.

As far as the Iran deal goes: There were other countries involved, not just America/Obama.
And all those other countries still think they negotiated the best deal at the time, to prevent irans nuclear weapons program.
-And it has worked.
Trump thinks he's a "better negotiator" than all the diplomats, who worked for years to get this agreement.
-Presumably based on his "amazing ability" to say "I'll give you $10,000 if you have sex with me" to various porn stars and "bunnies".


Moments after Mr Trump said he would abandon the pact, resisting overtures from European nations which had urged him to preserve the agreement, Prime Minister Theresa May, Chancellor Angela Merkel and President Emmanuel Macron said the decision to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal was a matter of “regret and concern”. However, they said they remained committed to the accord.

They said: “It is with regret and concern that we, the leaders of France, Germany and the United Kingdom, take note of President Trump’s decision to withdraw the United States of America from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action [JCPOA].

“Together, we emphasise our continuing commitment to the JCPOA. This agreement remains important for our shared security.

“We recall that the JCPOA was unanimously endorsed by the UN Security Council in resolution 2231. This resolution remains the binding international legal framework for the resolution of the dispute about the Iranian nuclear programme.

“We urge all sides to remain committed to its full implementation and to act in a spirit of responsibility.”


The top EU diplomat said:

Federica Mogherini, the European Union’s top diplomat, said she believed the deal was successfully deterring Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons and predicted that the rest of the international community would stand by the pact.

“The European Union is determined to act in accordance with its security interests and to protect its economic investments,” Ms Mogherini said.
“The nuclear deal with Iran is the culmination of 12 years of diplomacy. It belongs to the entire international community.”

Addressing Iran, Ms Mogherini urged its citizens and leaders to “not let anyone dismantle this agreement”.

European leaders are concerned that Washington could use its influence over the world’s financial system to prevent businesses in other countries that have not reimposed sanctions on Iran from doing business there. That view was not helped by Mr Trump’s new ambassador to Germany, who presented his credentials in Berlin earlier on Tuesday, tweeting that German businesses should halt their activities in Iran immediately.

“US sanctions will target critical sectors of Iran’s economy,” Richard Grenell said. “German companies doing business in Iran should wind down operations immediately.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/iran-nuclear-deal-latest-trump-macron-us-theresa-may-merkel-europe-response-a8342126.html

The new ambassador has already pissed-off his host nation.
The only people who aren't pissed-off about this are:
Saudi Arabia, who trump likes to dance for, despite their funding of terrorism, and the export of their hard-line version of "islam"; "Wahhabism", from a country where homosexuals are still executed, and women aren't allowed to drive. A country which is bombing and starving the population of Yemen into submission, with USA supplied weapons.
And "Israel", who celebrated the decision by immediately bombing alleged Iranian bases in Syria.
"Israel" is a country founded solely on the religious mythology of the Stone Age.
Now, their real "capital" is in Washington.
Religious people who are prepared to kill anyone who opposes their claims that a big invisible sky-pixie "gave them the land".
You can't reason with deluded people like that.


-But trump doesn't care about world peace, as long as it gets him off the Meuller "hook".
So his new tactic is to stir the shit, internationally.
With israels help, there will soon be a full-blown war in the Middle East, and they're the only ones with nukes.

In doing so, he has created new tensions between previous allies of America.
We don't think that he's "strong", -we think he's an idiot.
-We thought that, long before he became president.
Now, we just think that you've got an idiot, as a president.

I'm sure the isolationalist nationalists will say "we don't care what other countries think: America first!"
But most of trump's alleged wealth is invested overseas, eg, panama has just kicked him out!
Panama!
I thought he would have called them a "shithole" country, because they're about as corrupt as you can get!
(See "the panama papers")
But apparently he wanted some of that for himself!

Then there was "Trump Tower, Moscow", which manafort, Kushner, Cohen and trump were working on, but had to "put on ice", because it wouldn't have looked good for a president.
These guys were up to their balls in Russians!
The only reason he won, was because the Russians helped him.
"I don't know any Russians, I have no business in Russia"
All lies, as usual.

Trump claims the Russian collusion story is "just an excuse".
-Because he'll never admit that the election was rigged in his favour, by Russians.

And now the Russian companies, who Meuller has indicted are denying it?
-What a surprise!
Just like Trump is, -and he also said: "Putin denied it, and I believe him".....
-Rather than believing all of the evidence gathered by all those American security forces.


He thinks he can get away with anything....
MeullerTime is coming...MeullerTime is coming...MeullerTime is coming...MeullerTime is coming...MeullerTime is coming...MeullerTime is coming...

 Tootiefrutie1
Joined: 12/8/2015
Msg: 5223
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Posted: 5/11/2018 4:45:53 AM
"At one point during last week's hearing, Ellis suggested that the reason prosecutors were going after Manafort was to try to get him to flip on Trump.

"I don't see what relation this indictment has with what the special counsel is authorized to investigate," Ellis told prosecutors. "You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud ... What you really care about is what information Mr. Manafort could give you that would reflect on Mr. Trump or lead to his prosecution or impeachment."

Ellis later quipped: "The vernacular is 'to sing.'""
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lawyers-manafort-ruling-mueller-interview-2018-5

Imagine, Mueller is using a prosecutorial tactic employed against mobsters! How dare he use these same tactics against the money launderer Manafort! Mueller is finding crimes that he shouldn't investigate!
 HawkingJr
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Posted: 5/11/2018 7:47:37 AM
Unintended consequences?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/11/middleeast/iran-israel-syria-intl/index.html

“Iran vows to restart nuclear program if deal collapses: Iran says it is ready to restart its nuclear program on an ‘industrial scale’ in the wake of the decision by US President Donald Trump to abandon the deal that curbs the country's nuclear ambitions. In a statement published Friday, Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif said he would embark on a round of international diplomacy to try and save the deal. At the same time, the country would make preparations to restart its program of nuclear enrichment, he said. Zarif's comments came as thousands of Iranians took to the streets in the largest demonstration since US President Donald Trump announced his decision to abandon the deal on Tuesday. Protesters burned an American flag and railed against the US and Israel after emerging from Friday prayers in Tehran.”

Funny, when Trump said he was taking us back to when America was “great,” I thought he meant the 1950s, not the 1970s. Who knew he was such a big fan of the Carter administration? The Misery Index will be returning soon!

Of course, whatever era we’re in, behavior like this will always be (nearly) universally declared as “Ahole Supreme”:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-official-calls-meghan-mccain-to-apologize-for-remark-about-father/ar-AAx5SDx?ocid=ientp

“The Hill first reported Thursday that special assistant Kelly Sadler brushed off the senator's opposition to President Trump's nominee for CIA director, Gina Haspel, saying, ‘It doesn't matter, he's dying anyway.’”

Great people Trump’s got working for him. Simply wonderful people. You can tell this is a White House of Empathy from the way Trump tore up Nielsen for not being mean enough to illegal immigrants – at least Sessions got the message by announcing he’s going to be separating parents and children, no matter how young. Man, if he hadn’t recused himself from the Russia probe, his job would be as safe as Pruitt’s is.

The levels of dysfunction, corruption, idiocy and meanness in this White House rivals no other that I’m aware of. And I’m not sure the Democrats taking over Congress during the midterms is enough to stop it, although Republican Senators seem to be freaking out over the possibility by trying to speed up nomination approvals before they lose control (I’m not remotely convinced that’s going to happen – I mean, if my senator Bill Nelson is in trouble against an unpopular governor that’s never won a majority, in the most purple state in the union, then Manchin, Tester, Donnelly, McCaskill and Heitkamp are toast, regardless of what happens in Arizona, Nevada and Tennessee). But what about North Korea? What about it? Seems like they’re always releasing American prisoners (happened several times during Obama’s terms). Did Trump do that? Most likely, Kim finally got to a financial breaking point, but whatever deal he agrees to, he’s probably going to be like “Well, America can break their deal with Iran, so why should America if we break our deal with them after we get our money?”

Unintended consequences?

"Marmalade Mussolini" -- it's not quite "Cheeto Jesus" but I'll take it!
 APRILIKESWHITEROSES
Joined: 4/6/2018
Msg: 5225
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Posted: 5/11/2018 9:55:59 AM
America didn't "BREAK" any deal with Iran. IT WAS OBAMA'S nuclear deal with Iran..

(from my other post)
'"The JCPOA did not represent America’s word, it represented Obama’s word. Our Constitution and our laws are no secret. Our European allies know full well that a president has no power unilaterally to bind the United States to an international agreement. We give our word when we enter a treaty or enact legislation that cements commitments. Obama did not seek to make his deal a treaty precisely because he knew America was not giving its word — the public did not support the deal, which would have been roundly defeated if subjected to the Constitution’s process for ratifying international commitments"

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Iran needed time and money to finish their nuclear bases. Obama gave it to them.!!
I mean, Obama believes in the word of a terrorist country that knows nothing but war and builds nuclear bombs.
And after ten years of agreement what did Obama think was going to happen?





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