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 aintnodeal
Joined: 4/10/2016
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"That comment is really uncalled for." - TOTALLY called for. OP tried to rope this guy in at 3 weeks and he said NO. So she turns to the Forums to get the OK to slam him for it.

"Because dating sucks and many people want a committed, loving relationship." - Dating doesn't suck for everyone. And many people don't want to be committed or the one-armed jacket that goes with it.

"Man, you got it all backwards. You're nobody to be giving advice about relationships." - Backwards is correct. This is point where women and men come from opposite directions:
-Women want to define a relationship and then expect a man's behavior to change.
-Men don't want to define anything until they change their own behavior.

He gave his answer - she came here for tricks to do an end-run and box him in. I'm channeling Admiral Akbar. Why can't women in these circumstances re-evaluate their choices, and make a better pick the next time? Women claim emotional superiority - yet these kinds of posts show the exact opposite. If you were emotionally smarter/more mature you wouldn't put yourself in such a predicament.
 Ouija2025
Joined: 6/11/2014
Msg: 52
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Posted: 4/27/2017 5:25:52 PM
Aintnodeal - prolly because ppl jump before thinking
I agree, thought the Q was from a younger woman
I don't care if you shag a date hours after meeting.. but one simply cannot expect every person one sleeps with becomes " the one"
Men and women need not change anything whilst dating except to listen to what is being told.
idk, guess like shopping some get buyers remorse
 SilverWings2017
Joined: 12/14/2016
Msg: 53
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Posted: 4/27/2017 8:19:58 PM
Again, you got it all wrong. I'll leave your advice for those looking for casual dating and intimate encounters, because you obviously don't know anything at all about women as you think you do.

The OP's age is irrelevant. OP desires a relationship and invested all her time and energy in the wrong guy.

OP, I advise you to cut your losses and toss that fish back in the water. Just ignore/delete/block him and forget you ever knew him. He is just a waste of time. Don't spend another minute thinking about him and start over. This Face Time Fellow is not boyfriend material and you deserve better.
 hemingway234
Joined: 6/6/2015
Msg: 54
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Posted: 4/28/2017 7:10:33 AM

The OP's age is irrelevant. OP desires a relationship and invested all her time and energy in the wrong guy.


- this is true. Age does not matter, love does not know age.


http://www.thefrequentdater.com/how-many-dates-before-relationship-talk/

From the article:

How Many Dates Before Relationship Talk?
What the women say:
Women seem to always be the ones fretting about the exclusive talk, but in reality, they seem to believe the time spent in the grey area should be about 11 weeks or at least a COUPLE OF MONTHS.


When dating a woman, look for her to open up and start talking about your relationship, bearing her soul, after two months of dating. This means she has fallen in love with you. I can remember my ex at two months, seriously opening up about our relationship, saying, "I did not know if I was going to find anybody after marriage" I turned to her and said, "you have fallen in love with me". She exclaimed, "You're right!" http://www.disorderlylove.com/
 Sweet_Danimal
Joined: 10/31/2015
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Posted: 4/28/2017 7:33:24 AM

OP desires a relationship and invested all her time and energy in the wrong guy.

That little phrase there is the epitome of 'Too Much Contrived Drama'.

The OP's situation has been a few weeks, and only a couple of weekends. It has never been 'ALL' of anything, except maybe the few hours of free time she allocated for dating. That's a drop in the bucket compared to ANYthing long term. This relationship is still in it's infancy. Making vast conclusions about behavior because one person doesn't want a label slapped on them is really short-sighted.

Some people don't like titles or labels - some people feel it bottles them into assumed categories, and with good reason. What does it say about a woman who's been dating a guy for three weeks but loathes being called "Jake's girlfriend" when she has a REAL name? They can still date each other exclusively - do all the things normal couples do in growing relationships - but WHY is it so damn important to get a 'promise' in order to have a status label worthy of a Facebook post to mean something? Those are merely words if actions don't back them up. Trust is found in what we DO - not what we say, not what we intend to do, and certainly not in status labels we believe we should have.

Discussing exclusivity in our dating behavior is essential if anything sexual in nature is supposed to happen. That's been the default setting since the AIDs scare in the mid 1980s. But you aren't going to catch a virus from a dating site profile - because what's online IS NOT REAL. What needs to be of concern is what we do in real life, and what we can trust from our partner's real-life behavior. If the guy isn't fooling around with anyone else, and doesn't engage in other dangerous or risky behaviors (like breaking laws or drugs), then who really gives a damn what he may do on a computer with his free time?

Is playing video games or surfing porn MORE damaging to a relationship than gossiping with your girlfriends?
Think about THAT one seriously - because your dating relationship is supposed to be one-on-one, not by a 'committee'. Impressing friends with status changes may be OK for your own independent social life, but when you get another involved in your own peer pressure; we'll, just say, there's going to be some personal issues each of you will need to keep to yourself if you want to get along together. That's sacrifice - and it's an essential part of keeping a partner.
 Laidbackguy1964
Joined: 4/20/2017
Msg: 56
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Posted: 4/28/2017 8:48:26 AM
Hey SilverWings2017, The op admitted that she had came from two previous relationships, where she had been cheated on. I think She is not being a challenge and Giving it away too early on, but it might also have something to do with her choice in men? Well that's my view point and my advice to her for next time, was to slow down...get to know the guy for a while...find out what type of relationship he is looking for....make him wait for sex, because clearly her methods have not worked out for her and that's evident from what she admitted...Msg: 27 on this thread.
OP might want to read this
http://myempoweredworld.com/personal-growth/expect-results/
BTW SilverWings2017, I like your username...
 SilverWings2017
Joined: 12/14/2016
Msg: 57
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Posted: 4/28/2017 11:58:03 AM
Thank you. It's the name from an old country song 'Silver Wings' by Merle Haggard.

Ironically, its about a girl bailing on a guy and taking off on an airplane, leaving him behind.

I must have missed the bit where she posted this relationship status on Facebook?

Or it is just assumed she did?

Honey, love is fickle. There really is no timeline. It's a relationship only when both people decide to commit to one another. Past relationships are no measure of that, either. We simply love who we love.

I've had guys go bat **** crazy when I said no relationship after the first date, but the OP didnt go bat **** crazy.

She simply asked us to help her with her questions.

I knew on our first date that my husband to be was the one for me. He was in my heart and mind 24/7. We were inseparable. He told me he loved me after three weeks of dating, and told him I loved him too. He asked me to move in with him the following summer. We were married 20 years and had four kids together.

Anyway, the point of this thread is the OP. Her man is still on POF (we can assume it's not to socialize) and he deemed there is no relationship here. No. It's worse than that. He laughed and made a joke of it, telling her "We don't have a relationship!" Thats where it stopped being lighthearted and funny.

OP's friend has other options in mind while she put all her hopes and her heart into him alone. There is no drama. No victim mentality, or shame here for want of a relationship. As much as she wanted it, this just isn't meant to be. That's all.

The good news is getting away from him only puts her closer to the man she is meant to be with, and thats alright. She will bounce right back and find someone who will want to be in a relationship with a loving woman like her. It's his loss, really.

Happy Weekend everybody!
 Cynderella
Joined: 3/8/2007
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Posted: 4/28/2017 12:20:17 PM
Silver Wing great advice.
Dating is never easy at any age.
OP: Too much too soon as many have said.
He's not ready you are...there will be a time, a man that will the same he's ready and you won't be.
Date till you find the one on the same page as you.
Good luck.
 aintnodeal
Joined: 4/10/2016
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Posted: 4/28/2017 12:49:19 PM

Some people don't like titles or labels - some people feel it bottles them into assumed categories, and with good reason. What does it say about a woman who's been dating a guy for three weeks but loathes being called "Jake's girlfriend" when she has a REAL name? They can still date each other exclusively - do all the things normal couples do in growing relationships - but WHY is it so damn important to get a 'promise' in order to have a status label worthy of a Facebook post to mean something? Those are merely words if actions don't back them up. Trust is found in what we DO - not what we say, not what we intend to do, and certainly not in status labels we believe we should have.


Careful, buddy - I said the exact same thing in two sentences in Msg 51 and got slammed for it.
Whenever a guy doesn't take marching orders from a woman he is labeled "immature".
 halcyon_skies
Joined: 7/27/2015
Msg: 60
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Posted: 4/28/2017 1:28:26 PM

The OP's age is irrelevant. OP desires a relationship and invested all her time and energy in the wrong guy.


The OP indicated that another date with this man was in the works. Until she comes back and says she's decided to move on, I think it's a bit premature to label him as "the wrong guy". Just because two people aren't progressing at the exact same pace, doesn't mean that things couldn't eventually work out between them.


The good news is getting away from him only puts her closer to the man she is meant to be with, and thats alright. She will bounce right back and find someone who will want to be in a relationship with a loving woman like her. It's his loss, really.


Again, you're jumping the gun. The OP hasn't expressed to us that she's made the decision to end things with him, yet. She stated that she will take a step back and allow him to pursue her.
 Nestaron
Joined: 3/22/2016
Msg: 61
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Posted: 4/28/2017 2:39:11 PM
OP got caught up in the infatuation stage where everything was new and exciting and magical, the guy was not foolish enough to play into that concept and deem it a relationship and was more mature about it. He could care for her but not willing to commit to a relationship until he knows for sure if it is infatuation or real feelings. It's called maturity people should try it sometimes saves a lot of heartache, and pain later.
 Dan6308
Joined: 10/23/2013
Msg: 62
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Posted: 4/29/2017 2:33:36 AM
You've been to his house the last 2 weekends, had sex I suppose, talk together a lot for a month, total, and he still wants to keep his profile up in case he finds someone else...

It's not entirely unreasonable, he could feel he's not sure whether he should be with you, commit, but at the same time is oddly indifferent...

Maybe you're not made for each other. I can't be sure but he doesn't seem to want a relationship.

One month of talking enthusiastically and 2 weekends of meeting and he's that disengaged...hmm..ask him about it but be prepared to leave.
 SS4544Spd
Joined: 8/31/2016
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Posted: 4/29/2017 8:09:17 AM
Didn't read the entire thread, but I'll agree with those who say you're a FWB to this guy. It will be difficult to reverse that. I will be difficult to discern if you did something wrong by accelerating things so fast, or whether he thought of you as a FWB from the start.

That may sound cruel, but that was the way I operated when I was younger. I accepted an acceleration of things, as long as #1 I had no prospects on the side, and #2 there were no difficult early "where are we" conversations....and as soon as the "Where are we" convo came up...it was either become exclusive, or breakup. In general, I did not lead women on falsely. For me then, most of the time it was....breakup.

So....in the end, I don't know if I would be too hard on yourself. It could be he's only looking for FWB's and no matter how slowly/carefully you took it, you'd have ended up in the same boat you are now. I wish you luck in the future.
 Sweet_Danimal
Joined: 10/31/2015
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Posted: 4/29/2017 2:39:00 PM
I'm going to ask this of all readers in the forum...
WHY does refusing to take down a dating profile mean that someone WANTS to cheat?
Where is the proof?
Some people NEVER do.
There's profiles in here with the exact same photos and text they started with 5-6 years ago. They could have met someone, got married and had a couple kids by now. But they still pop up occasionally as being 'online'. Are they cheating?

Some people work endlessly at crafting their online profiles. They change text weekly, even daily - constantly updating photos and whatnot. It's become a 'hobby' of sorts, and represents a LOT of investment of their time. Why should it be taken down? It's not doing any harm existing online by itself.

Having previous relationships before that ended quickly - maybe without warning - even after weeks of dating - is yet another reason why people aren't so willing to 'erase' their virtual selves - just to rebuild them again soon after. People keep bad secrets and skeletons and 'deal breakers' buried a heckuva lot longer than a few weeks - so why should be forced to show some sort of virtual trust or commitment in someone in such a short amount of time?

Dating profiles are our own personal business. WE are in control. WE decide what content is put in there. You could suggest to a friend a hundred times to get updated pictures on their profile or change something - but if they don't care, they don't need to change ANYthing you feel they should. People leave online profiles alone for two reasons - it's working OK for them, or they aren't using it - and don't care.

If the guy only wants a FWB, then he's going to stay emotionally distant and uncaring about a lot of other stuff in the OP's life. A lot of that can be seen by conversations where they are stuck in 'Reply Only' mode.

If the person is a cheater, there's a billion other signs something is wrong. Worrying about a POF profile - It's kind of walking into a hoarder's house, with garbage in every room waist high, and ONLY complaining about leaving a pair of shoes in front of the door for someone to trip over.

If he's 'into' her life, bringing up things to do, LISTENING to her and responding as such - basically living a dating relationship in REAL life, REAL time -- then who gives a damn what is still floating around out there in Google land?

The only type of online 'indicator' that could possibly mean anything in real life would be "Last message sent on..."
Why? Because taking the time to read AND respond to a message in here means you care enough to take a real-life action.
It will never exist - because when people log into these dating sites and realize out of say 50,000 people online, only 800 are actually bothering to use it - then the dating sites have lost all leverage for their advertising. Match would probably go out of business once people discovered how many unpaid 'lurker' profiles are still 'active'. There's plenty of people in these forums that would get discredited instantly as well, because that's all they are here to do.

By the way - 'Hiding' a profile essentially does what the OP wants - to NOT see her boyfriend 'fishing' in POF. There is no 'Online Now' indicator, because you can't find their profile. Problem solved? Absolutely - or is it? If he still wants to look at profiles, or take the step to actually message someone else - he still can. So consider the emotional investment you put into those little green dots, and realize that the real world is a much bigger place than whatever happens on a little glowing screen.
 dpwesu
Joined: 3/25/2013
Msg: 65
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Posted: 4/29/2017 4:17:22 PM
well OP......while I didn't read the entire thread.....Me thinks you gave it up waaaayyyyy too fast......

You asked the question about removing your respective profiles.....he "jokingly" said he didn't consider it a relationship.

You asked....
HE answered.....
remember.....men say what they mean and mean what they say........

If you need to ask yourself if you are just a booty call or a friend with benefits.....

chances are.....you are.

Never, EVER put yourself in that position unless the guy asks for a commitment......Let HIM choose YOU.

And even then.....don't rush to go to bed......It just never works.

Respect yourself. - Trust me....you are so much MORE than just a tumble in the sheets.......
 Ladyinred0407
Joined: 2/6/2016
Msg: 66
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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:03:52 PM

WHY does refusing to take down a dating profile mean that someone WANTS to cheat?


Well Sweet Danimal,
This is only my opinion.
It is not uncommon for a person to project onto others their own mindset. IF one is or has been a cheater they are far more likely to believe everyone is, or has been .................a cheater. "If I can do it, so can you".
I haven't cheated, and I have never been tempted to cheat.
I don't assume anyone who stays on a dating site is up to no good.
I am only responsible for my pwn actions.
 norwegianguy456
Joined: 6/11/2015
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Posted: 4/29/2017 5:29:09 PM

why the hurry to jump into the bedroom?...make the guy earn it and you in turn will earn his respect

I disagree. He shouldn't earn it any more than she -- and it's not about 'earning' -- then games are played. And porking each other isn't at all an issue here, which is a good thing. It's that it's 4 weeks of seeing each other, and they see each other at least once a day -- and spent two weekends at his place. It's been about a month.

OP, you are what you do. Labels don't hold any water. After the 1st date you could call yourselves BF & GF but you won't be, any more than calling yourselves dual car mechanics. Point is, you Are at a point, demonstrated by how much you Consistently see each other and time spent over 2 weekends in this month-ish relationship so-far -- that By Default, you take yourselves off the table to date others.

You don't have to be some "officialized" BF/GF to cut off dating other people. Every half-brained person knows this, right? :) You remind him of this, and say that you're not looking for any labels, we see how things go, etc -- but, yeah, we Are dating. And when you establish yourselves Dating, by default -- you don't date others. One has to step up and make/request an Exception at this point to have a Different aka Open type of dating relationship between the two.

Bring this concept to him in a cool manner and talk it with him. Don't come across as if you're looking to be serious + labels or anything. Be cool. And let him know being in a Relationship (capital R), ie officialized BF/GF -- yeah, that's for meeting the parents and such, and no, you're not requesting that... but if he wants to go aside from the default situation of truly Seeing Someone for a month and spending weekends together and at least seeing each other a bit every day as Still Open to date others, "Then, I guess that's fine. I'll find some dudes, and I'll come spend the weekend with you after I go out on a sexy date with a nice stud. Don't worry, I'll wear a bib when the rubber meats the road with the other dudes." I think putting things in perspective may make him change his mind. :)
 LetitiaLeGrande
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Posted: 4/29/2017 8:06:52 PM
I have to agree with aintnodeal,
The guy is being honest about it all, the OP is wanting to pressure him into a commitment because they have been having sex a few weeks. Her attachment hormones may be starting up but his, no. Men are different.
 WROLsaint28
Joined: 10/28/2016
Msg: 69
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Posted: 4/30/2017 7:09:18 AM
I like your post a lot, but it's really hard given the nature of a woman. It's natural (as in, without the rule of law) that if a man is spending any kind of psycho-social/emotional/friendship type of attentiveness that he's obviously interested in more than just the sex. And, as woman, in our culture, we're mindf*cked into thinking we're weird for expecting commitment before sex. This whole system contradicts what's right us as woman, and no we're not the same as men. In our culture women have turned themselves into a commodity, so men don't consider being possessive and territorial as much as their innate inclinations demand them to be. So I like your post, because it's extremely honest, and even I needed to hear it... but cut the girl some slack. Your response is only relevant given the skewed context of our culture. Guys should be confident enough to be clear about things. It's not exactly what an alpha man would do. An alpha man wouldn't even let the possibility of a misunderstanding (regarding that) manifest. I've met guys on here who in no way shape or form even gave me a moment to be confused. Guys who want to be fully invested do so, act so and are so, clearly. lol I generally avoid passive guys in general though, since I realized all that.
 Sweet_Danimal
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Posted: 4/30/2017 12:14:03 PM

Guys should be confident enough to be clear about things. It's not exactly what an alpha man would do. An alpha man wouldn't even let the possibility of a misunderstanding (regarding that) manifest. I've met guys on here who in no way shape or form even gave me a moment to be confused. Guys who want to be fully invested do so, act so and are so, clearly.

I agree that a confident relationship wouldn't give any creedence to the question of commitment, regardless of what's online or not. So was this 'investigation' back onto POF brought upon by something the guy did or said, or by the OP's own ideas or insecurities? Being a relationship in it's infancy, the answer could be anything. It's only been a few weeks.

So the investigation was made, and questioned, and the guy gave her a (confident) answer. What next? I find it interesting that so many believe her ONLY confident choice is to break it off, which is bullsh1t. Insecure people run away - confident people go for what they want. She can give the guy a reason to choose to stick with her by showing a little confidence herself - and it doesn't have to be through forcing an ultimatum choice point-blank in his face. Negotiating for attention and commitment is never successfully done with a lot of vinegar, blackmail and jealousy - it's done by making things work so BOTH are happy. Even the smartest Alpha in the pack can be baited into a commitment with a little sweetness. Give him a reason to stop looking elsewhere, and he won't. Give him a threat to stop looking, and he'll do the opposite.

--And if you think Sex is the only negotiation chip you have to work with, you discredit yourself severely. You have a lot more power over him than just that.
 Maleman999
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Posted: 4/30/2017 3:34:52 PM

...and it doesn't have to be through forcing an ultimatum choice point-blank in his face.


This has got to be the main reason why dating couples break up. Both want to control the speed of how fast things progress, and the one who wants to take things more slowly is given an ultimatum to speed things up to the other person's pace, or be gone. People don't realize ultimatums are a lose-lose situation. Why would somebody dump a potential good match because there timetables aren't in sync, instead of looking for a compromise first? Giving into an ultimatum just leads to more ultimatums down the road, which leads to disaster.
 aintnodeal
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Posted: 4/30/2017 4:53:04 PM
Anyone who issues an ultimatum has already FAILED to satisfy or negotiate with the Other. Giving an ultimatum is like shouting to the world "This will NEVER work!" and that's why people walk away after getting ultimatums. Always bad to say "or else" because that "else" is gonna be triggered sooner or later.

It's okay to say goodbye or walk away without the dramatic splash.
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 5/1/2017 10:39:12 AM

The OP's situation has been a few weeks, and only a couple of weekends.

Actually, it's been quite different than that. It's been 4 weeks, roughly a month -- and face time every day... and two weekends of her staying the whole weekend at his place. Big. Difference.

Some people don't like titles or labels - some people feel it bottles them into assumed categories, and with good reason.

True, but he's the one who brought up labels as a requirement. A "relationship". Now, she could have easily countered with that by saying "Umm, I'm not into big labels, but, no, it doesn't require BF/GF to merely put "Not Single / Not Looking" on the profile. When you're Solidly seeing someone, which, we are -- ya know, it's the thing to do by default, right?"

It's not like it's been 3 weeks since their first meetup and had a couple weekend dates. It's a Very different picture than that. What guys (and some gals) do need to understand is that you can't hit it off with someone from the get go, follow it up by seeing each other for at least a moment virtually every day, spend a whole weekend at another's house thru two whole weekends -- and go "Oh, no, I plan to keep my profile rolling and hunting babes/dudes."

It doesn't take BF/GF ("Relationship") to call off the dogs in dating hunting. It's a case by case basis, some can be pretty iffy/gray, etc. The way she described her situation, it was not gray/iffy. It was pretty solid that for 4 weeks, hitting it off and spending 2 weekends at his place, and seeing each other all the time since he's not a texter -- yeah, ya don't chase other guys or gals. It goes without saying when it goes without saying that yeah, you are seeing each other.
 humbleme71
Joined: 3/18/2017
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Posted: 5/3/2017 4:11:43 AM
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I have read each of your posts, although I found many to have sound, logical advice, others not so much so. But that's ok, we are all entitled to our own opinions.

I couldn't bail on the him, I needed to see it through, who was I to assume his intentions. We had a fantastic weekend, even meeting his family was discussed. I did not sense or question his intentions, I was not his booty call like some suggested. Then on Monday things shifted, I have received little contact from him. The message I received last night was " Having a hard time balancing everything". He is a new homeowner, works nights (worked 15 hrs Monday night) etc. At this point I expressed my feelings and asked that we discuss it in person instead of text, he responded that we wouldn't talk while he was at work but would talk later.

Of course my mind is running crazy, I am a women and became attached after 4 weeks. I realize that "Having a hard time balancing everything" could very well be my demise to being dumped. I do not intend on messaging or calling him today, this is in his hands. I of course think highly of him and that we could be a great match, but I am not one to beg and plead.
 dpwesu
Joined: 3/25/2013
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Posted: 5/3/2017 4:27:12 AM
I hate to say this......but him "having a hard time balancing everything" is nothing more than what is called the "slow fade".

Basically what he is telling you but NOT really telling you is he really isn't interested.

- sure you had a "great weekend".......the sex was fantastic, etc....you talked about introducing each other to family and friends......but afterward, he barely speaks with you. He told you what you wanted to hear while you were together and now the weekend is over.........he is now back into his own life.

You can have all the "great weekends" you want with him......but it doesn't mean he will commit to you.

I was a new homeowner 3 years ago and while it was crazy hectic trying to move and get settled......I STILL made the time to spend with by bf at the time.

He is hiding behind work and being a 'new homeowner' hoping you will somehow "take the hint" he really and truly isn't interested.

Forget it, delete his number, and move on. And if he DOES bother to text or call......don't answer it....... He isn't really that interested in nothing more than just a booty call.

Don't "leave it in his hands" and give up your own personal power. Go and build your life and stop driving yourself crazy...... - it's the best investment you can possibly make.

Always remember......actions speak louder than words.
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