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 vlad dracul
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"So to Prescott we can add Shirley Williams, Mandelsohn, the Kinnocks and god knows how many others who have not only filled their boots there now have advisory or non executive posts being paid shed loads for sfa.

Carillion is just an outstanding example of the corruption at the heart of our governance. We need to scrap the House of Lords, ban the use of titles in official circles, ban lobby groups and so called think tanks."


Absolutely spot on mate. Just look at shami chakrabati and her whitewash report on anti semitism in london labour. If st jeremy of corbyn is so anti house of lords why did she get gig?

You must remember when union leaders got a seat in the lords when they retired? A load of unelected fossils from the political jurrasic age.

50 london labour mp's defied st jeremy of corbyn the other night over brexit. Now we shall see momentum at their best.

This is the worst government i can think of since i was old enough to vote. The official opposition are just about to have a civil war between momentum and the blairites.

Our nations are governed by apparatchiks who nod when told.

Carillion are just the tip of the iceberg. It's common knowledge that big firms go in cheap and make money on 'extras'. They put in a cheap price. Then the subbies have to put in a cheap price to get the jobs. Then the subbies cut the wages of the tradesmen who actually do the job.

We are donald ducked at every turn.




"Edinburgh Royal Infirmary cost £180million to build but NHS Lothian will pay back £1.6billion by 2034.

In 2012, surgeons there had to use torches to complete an operation when contractors shut off power ahead of scheduled maintenance."

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/struggling-nhs-faces-crippling-bills-10234545


The Edinburgh Royal Infirmary is a disgrace. It is one of the mankiest hospitals in Scotland. Staff and latients are robbed blind.

Yet blair and brown feel they add weight to the remain campaign. Lol fvxk me how gullible are folk?


My lassie went to the royal when she was pregnant with twins. She went down at 7.30 in the evening. Because of staff shortages she and 6 other lassies had to sit overnight in the waiting room.

Because she had not been seen by anyone yet she did not qualify to get anything to eat either overnight or in the morning. The only reason she did get any food was because some staff members are from the scheme and knew her.

When my lassie was in giving birth to the twins the heating was on full blast. It was August. We asked a nurse for a fan to put in the room. They had none. We supplied our own.

And yet politicians expect us to put our faith in them.

Aye right
 billybonds
Joined: 8/8/2014
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Posted: 1/18/2018 9:33:50 AM
I remember Roy hattersley taking a peerage and explaining While laughing that he was working within the system to bring it down. Those guys and girls on the greasy pole get to talk to their benefactors so they know it's all about doing legislature favours and getting looked after later. Presidents and prime minsters leave office now expecting millions. President Obama made 2 or 3 million last year making a 90 minute speech in Milan.

Where there are many laws and many paper claims on wealth, corruption is rife. Carillon is the tip of a global boom in corruption. It's off the scale I look at Tesla and Amazon and wonder if they are just ponzi schemes for the big banks .

Cryptocoins have been battered in recent days with bitcoin halving. .but it's back up 18% today. Everything seems to be going up although house prices in London quietly fell last year. But the Dow is phenomenal it went from 24,000 to 25,000 in a record 23 days then to 26,000 in 12 days. This is not normalcy!! The weaker dollar which Trump wants has now reached 90.54 on the U.S. dollar index.

The biggest bubble in history, the bond market is at a point where people are selling it ..while governments on your shilling are buying it. There is only .55% between the two year U.S. and the ten year treasury. And between the 10 year and thirty year Just .27% or 27 basis points. As politicians around the world continue to tighten credit, interest rates are after ten years rising (normalising) with the all important ten year benchmark at 2.62%. We shall see how far they get.


The only assets that have been in a bear market these counterfeiting years are gold and silver...... it's as if we have discovered economic alchemy. ...

All hail the insurgent 52%.
 10ky
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Posted: 1/18/2018 10:23:08 AM
^^
I am utterly impressed. This is better than the FT.

Aside:
1. The drop in the value of cryptocurrency (cc) was due to gossip about impending regulations to be impose on cc in Asia. This is something I saw coming (gvts won't relinquish power that easy) as I said on here a few months ago. Glad to see that pro investors are "in line with my views".

2. What do you think of Boris's recent absurdities regarding the "net saving" the UK will be making as soon as it leave the EU? Apparently, his original estimates of £350m per week is a gross underestimation he has decided. smh.
 Justanotherchap
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Posted: 1/18/2018 10:27:09 AM
Indeed - Tesla has orders for 50,000 cars or is it 500,000. They don't seem to have enough lithium supplies despite protestations. Their order book is way ahead of anything they can deliver.
 duracell_bunny_one
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Posted: 1/18/2018 10:52:46 AM
I have had a 'bad feeling' about Tesla
for a couple of years..........
I don't think I'll 'buy' one any day soon.
(remember DeLorean?)

 rekirked
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Posted: 1/19/2018 3:26:42 AM
I’m still undecided if Musk is a visionary genius or a Bond villain. To me battery powered vehicles are the Betamax of the future and Hydrogen is the VHS, in terms of practicality millions of extension leads hanging out of apartment windows doesn’t look like a step forwards. There are issues with hydrogen also but it seems (to me anyway) to be easier to convert existing petrol stations to serve hydrogen than the battery way of thinking. I do wonder if Musk is the oil industry’s future fall guy.
 Justanotherchap
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Posted: 1/20/2018 4:30:11 AM
So Mr Macron has just been over nad given hope to Theresa and dashed them at the same time.

He said "the UK could get a special trade deal with the EU after Brexit. But he warned that Britain would not have full access to the single market without accepting its rules. A deal might fall somewhere between the single market and a trade agreement".

In other words, free movement which is not what the leave voters are looking for.

He also said "What is important is to not make people believe that it is possible to [have your cake and eat it]. and said access to the EU for the UK's financial services sector was "not feasible" if the UK did not accept the obligations of the single market.

But he insisted he did not want to "unplug" the City from the EU, adding: "It doesn't make sense, because it's part of the whole financing of our European Union."

He told Marr it was not too late for the UK to change its mind about remaining - describing the 2016 referendum as a "mistake".

"I do respect this vote, I do regret this vote, and I would love to welcome you again," he said.

"It's a mistake when you just ask 'yes' or 'no' when you don't ask people how to improve the situation and explain how to improve it."

Mr Macron said he believed the Brexit vote mainly came from the middle and working classes, and older people, who "decided that the recent decade was not in their favour".

"When I look at your debate it was too much favourable just for the City and less favourable for the rest of the country," he said.



Well, he seems to have more of a grip on reality than our politicians and I think we now know what the definitive EU position is (we already knew but the politicians are still trying to fool us). Either we stay in the single market or we don't, there is no halfway.
 billybonds
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Posted: 1/20/2018 6:11:59 AM
I don't know how the rest of the world survives without that free market ( Orwellian bullshit) high tariff protectionist rubbish. The eternally criminal city of London has more power than those feather bedded panjandrums. They want us back in. All hail the 52% & down with globalist remainers. In essence I know my goose was cooked sometime ago we are essentially a one world economy ...with perhaps the Chinese and the Russians showing any true sovereignty or independence or indy if you must.

We are all relying on the dollar but it's failing. We must prepare for the post dollar era that is coming. The ten year U.S.treasury is now 2.66% ..2.41 on new years day. Its 228 year low was 1.32% in August 2016. If it goes past 3%...I predict a riot or a return to QE . But what to buy the ECB has already bought all the bonds up in the euro zone. .I predict they will start buying shares. Japan and the Swiss are doing it, so why not nationalise everything.

I use to think europhiles were committing treason against their own country sometimes over a perceived economic benefit for themselves but it's worse than that. I believe in freedom, private property, sound money, responsibility and savings being rewarded.. The remainer and his apologists are just not selfish or treacherous but they are after your very freedom..we are hurtling towards a totalitarian evil communist world, we chose security over liberty and we deserve neither.

By a one world economy I mean that Britain won't fail inside or outside ...the eu trade prison .

Ahh Greece it's all working out so well for them the single market.. the single currency. ...

If you imagine an inverted pyramid of our financial structure at the top you will find amazon and shit like
that further down some reasonable companies no doubt..currencies like the European single currency..you may note that they didn't call it the European single money ...houses ... note I didn't say house prices.. further down towards the apex is it? You'd find the world's mighty Settlement currency the dollar and right at the bottom you'd find a tiny amount of gold.. (180,000 tonnes..about 40,000 of which is central bank gold) ..propping it all up.

It's not so much the debt but its collateral too.


 Scareyboatrace
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Posted: 1/21/2018 12:29:43 PM
I don't know if this is a result of the impending Brexit....but on the ground it would appear that it's impact has reached Ireland already.

My son applied for a job here but the company he wants to work for is British owned and it's HR office is British based....he got the job pending him furnishing them with photo I.D., most of us have passports, driver's licenses, national age cards or cards issued by Social Welfare with photo....he has none of those but he does have a form of photo I.D. given to him by the local Gardai which identifies him as the person he says he is and was good enough as a form of identification to allow him open a bank account but the HR company won't accept that as proof he is in fact an Irish national or a even a foreign national with an Irish work visa despite his having a PPS (national insurance?) number because they're unfamiliar with that form of I.D.

I was thinking that this HR company seems quite paranoid...or at least very concerned about keeping on the right side of law pending forthcoming Brexit rules re employment.

My other son works for another British concern but wasn't expected to give his employers photo I.D. He started working for them last November. In fact, the man who owns the business died in a helicopter crash recently and he had many interests in British businesses up and running in Ireland like Tesco and Argos amongst others.

Anyway, I was just interested in hearing any opinions on that.
 Pinkandblue79
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Posted: 1/27/2018 4:09:50 AM
I was asked to bring my passport along with me to the three job interviews I've been to.

Completely common and nothing to do with brexit.
 Jo van
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Posted: 1/28/2018 4:56:09 AM
The tories have been entirely responsible for this entire debacle.
-Ironically, they are still funded by the "city" (50% of their "donations" come from individuals in the financial sector), and position themselves as the "champions of business".
The reasons that immigration has soared on their watch, (despite all their demagoguery, and rhetoric about "labour's uncontrolled immigration", which won them the election) is because businesses have demanded it, and will continue to insist on some continuing form of "free movement".

Immigration may fall, temporarily, because of the perception of "xenophobia" putting-off would-be immigrants, or causing those already here to feel both uncertain and unwelcome, but most of our new record numbers of immigrants come from places other than the EU., and that has been steadily rising under this government.

When they sell weapons to India, or Saudi Arabia, or China, the governments who sign the orders, do so, with increased immigration as a "clause".
And the tories will always cave, to such demands from " the economy".

So their demagoguery gets the "low hanging fruit", by appealing to "patriotism" and "nationalism" and "tribalism", and other pernicious forms of "identity politics",
-and wins them elections. (Just like it did with trump )
But simultaneously, in practice, it harms "the economy".
So immigration won't ever reduce, as has been proved by the tories ever-increasing non-EU immigration, for the last 7 years.
-And all entirely "under their own control".

All of this only becomes a problem, (IMO) because the tories' own ideological dogma against "the welfare state", has caused them to underfund, and continue to cut the funding, for the infrastructure necessary to support such a growing population.
Health, education, housing.

-They make people hate "foreigners", for "the strain they put on services",
-while simultaneously cutting the funding for those same services.
This is dishonest.

If Britain wants to continue trading with EU countries, they will have to conform to the trading standards agreed, but will have no future say in devising this standards.
For the first time in over 40 years, it will at last, be correct to say that "other people are making our laws".

Personally, I think all this "identity politics" bollocks is deluded shit, and not at all supported by science and facts.
There is no "us" and "them",
Only us.

The "stock markets" and bonds markets, and derivatives markets are just a big "ponzi scheme".
Very little of that money finds its way to working people. (Except through "private pension schemes", which are another disgraceful scam, introduced by thatcher)
Only rich people have "capital" to spare.

Excessive wealth for a few, is invariably accompanied by excessive poverty for many.
-As is now the case.
I hope that billionaires will begin to realise that, voluntarily.
If not, I think we're now close to the "tipping point", where, even in the supposedly "most advanced nations", such inequality has impoverished such a large proportion of the population, that driving a Bugatti, or owning a "super yacht" will be like walking about with a target on your back.
-Is that really "buying a good life"?

Have a jolly Sunday.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 1/28/2018 5:29:40 AM
Josef Spartacus
"So their demagoguery gets the "low hanging fruit", by appealing to "patriotism" and "nationalism" and "tribalism", and other pernicious forms of "identity politics",
-and wins them elections. (Just like it did with trump )"


So was it that 'demagoguery' that convinced st jeremy of corbyn to say that mass migration drove down wages then? And do YOU not 'identify' with london labour and 70's politics?...........


"But simultaneously, in practice, it harms "the economy".
So immigration won't ever reduce, as has been proved by the tories ever-increasing non-EU immigration, for the last 7 years. -And all entirely "under their own control"."

So st jeremy of corbyn was lying when he said economic migration was driving down wages? Tsk. Lying was he?.......


"All of this only becomes a problem, (IMO) because the tories' own ideological dogma against "the welfare state", has caused them to underfund, and continue to cut the funding, for the infrastructure necessary to support such a growing population. Health, education, housing."


Was that the same welfare state that london labour promised to be even more extreme than the tories when miliband stood as party leader? Or have you conveniently forgot that? Again...........


"-They make people hate "foreigners", for "the strain they put on services",
-while simultaneously cutting the funding for those same services."

Like the abbottsaurus hates white folk? Like st jeremy of corbyn said migration cuts wages? And like london labour promised to be even 'more savage' on welfare cuts?

I admire the way you can forget things like that. Strange eh?
 billybonds
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Posted: 1/28/2018 5:39:10 AM
Agree with jo on the immigration thing. I think the tories will soon be on level terms with new labour. Our socialist-debt system that I call debtism demands unlimited debt serfs.


Also all our markets are fake ...he's quite correct. Although I wouldn't personalise it except to say the lady left office thirty years ago, Tony Blair is a genocidal murderer and Nicola sturgeon is a minute plump ostrich.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 1/28/2018 7:00:51 AM
Bondsy
"Agree with jo on the immigration thing. I think the tories will soon be on level terms with new labour. Our socialist-debt system that I call debtism demands unlimited debt serfs."


And i myself agreed with him many posts ago. My problem with jo is his memory loss where london labour contributed to the mess we are in now.

He skites over what THEY said and done. And as he said most migration comes from outside the eu. So lets stop ALL migration from non eu nations unless it is workers that are of a.benefit.

Sorted. Does one not agree?...........


"Also all our markets are fake ...he's quite correct. Although I wouldn't personalise it except to say the lady left office thirty years ago, Tony Blair is a genocidal murderer and Nicola sturgeon is a minute plump ostrich."

ALL our politicos are lightweights in my opinion. Lol like the description of wee nicky. But you know there is one geezer who has upset the cozy wee charade. Nigel farage.

He put call me dave to the sword. He could well bring the maybot to self explode. He and ukip stopped millibland and paved the way for st jeremy of corbyn to be anointed supreme leader.

Thats a no a bad result. Oh and brexit. Fair play to him.

And before the wailing wall from oxford mentions Scotland's brexit vote many many nationalists in Scotland are pro brexit.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 1/29/2018 12:18:41 PM
Once again spiked online shows who are the haters. Yes YOU remainer. YOU voted for the eu gulag to try and smash polish elected mp's. And in doing so went against the wishes of polish citizens.

Hang your globalist heads in shame. Tsk...........


"NOW WE KNOW WHO REALLY FEARS AND LOATHES POLES – REMAINERS

You just hate Poles and other foreigners, don’t you?’

For months after 23 June 2016, when the 17.4million voted to leave the EU, this was the line hurled at us.

Brexit was a xenophobic spasm, elitist Remainers said.

It was the cry of a prejudiced blob who didn’t like hearing Polish at their local GP’s or seeing a Hungarian lad emptying the bins.

Remainers even invented a Brexit hate-crime epidemic to try to prove their propagandistic claim that anti-EU people are driven by loathing of Poles and other non-Brits.

These self-styled defenders of Polish virtue against the Little Englander mob, these cosmopolitans who’ve spent more than a year telling us how concerned they are for Eastern Europeans, are now openly raging against what they view as idiotic Polish people.

Yesterday, European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker said, ‘We are not at war with Poland’. He
protests too much.

Tensions between the EU and Poland have been brewing for a couple of years. They exploded in December, when the EU took the extreme step of invoking Article 7 of the Lisbon Treaty, known as ‘the nuclear option’, against Poland.

Under this article, a nation can be subjected to sanctions by the EU, stripped of its voting rights in Brussels, and in essence be reduced to a second-class nation. Poland’s crime?

Its ruling party, Law and Justice, interfered in the workings of Poland’s constitutional court in a way which, according to the EU, ‘subverted democracy’.

And the EU’s answer to this alleged subversion of democracy is to subvert Polish democracy by pressuring an elected government that also enjoys very high ratings in opinion polls to change its political direction or else.

Lovely Orwellian irony."

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/now-we-know-who-really-fears-and-loathes-poles-remainers1/20802#.Wm9_IyOnxcs
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Posted: 1/30/2018 12:10:02 AM
Another ‘leaked’ document professing we’re all doomed after Brexit.
You know I’m sick of it all now.
I can even imagine this document was only created to be leaked.
And who leaked it?
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 2/1/2018 9:52:47 PM
This is brilliant. Dummy well and truly spat out.

Good luck to the geezer. Now this has came to light we can lob foreign nationals who commit crimes over to Ireland.

They can then pay for their upkeep.

Maybe our corrupt politicians can piss off as well? And take the anti democracy dafties with them........

"Irish court refuses man's extradition because of Brexit

The judgment it issued revealed the man is one of about 20 people in a similar position resisting removal to Britain on identical legal grounds.

The surprise decision in Dublin is an early sign of the disruption Brexit may inflict on legal cooperation across the continent. A fresh extradition treaty between the two countries could be needed.

Thomas Joseph O’Connor, 51, a construction company director, from Roscommon, had been convicted of tax fraud in London in 2007 but then absconded on bail and fled to Ireland.

The Irish supreme court, however, declined to extradite him to the UK and instead ruled that his case should be referred to the European Court of Justice (ECJ) in Luxembourg to resolve the issue.

If returned to the UK, the court noted, he would “continue to be imprisoned in the United Kingdom beyond 29 March, 2019, when the United Kingdom will withdraw from the European Union”.

Lawyers for O’Connor said that Ireland was being asked to surrender an EU citizen to a country where the EU charter of fundamental rights might no longer be capable of enforcement.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/01/irish-court-refuses-mans-extradition-because-of-brexit
 Justanotherchap
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Posted: 2/6/2018 8:53:04 AM
Anna Soubury threatening to leave the Conservative party if Johnson or Rees-Mogg become PM. Interesting as the comment seemd to suggest the Tories have completely given up on May and are now discussing the change in public.

More news from the EU - only Serbia and Montenegro have started membership talks, but Mogherini said Albania and Macedonia are deemed to be making “significant progress”, while Bosnia-Herzegovina and Kosovo are further behind. i just don't see how such disparate economies, standards and political stances can be stitched together.


Goooaaaaal!
 rekirked
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Posted: 2/6/2018 8:56:47 AM
They can’t be stitched together but it won’t stop them trying, the reason the EU is doomed to fail is because they keep letting potless peasants join.
 Jo van
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Posted: 2/6/2018 11:27:23 AM
Many of the current members had "peasant" economies when they first joined.
The whole purpose was to "invest" in poorer countries, and "develop" them into industrial economies.
That's why we paid £13 billion a year, and Greece didn't.

Just sayin...

I'd rather have merkel running our country, than May.
Or Gove, or Johnson, or Reece-Mogg, or David David David.

They're just a bunch of incompetent fvckwits, playing some sort of "game", and to them, "winning" is just about being in power.
That's the sum total of their "ambition".
-That, and turning the clock back.
Conservatives stand for "old England".
It's bollocks IMO.
Maybe it's because most people's own lives are so shit, that the only "pride" they can have is in other people's accomplishments, and the past.?
I don't understand it.
-All this "identity politics".
I seem to be completely missing the "tribal" gene.
Who knows.
 rekirked
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Posted: 2/6/2018 3:18:03 PM

Many of the current members had "peasant" economies when they first joined.
The whole purpose was to "invest" in poorer countries, and "develop" them into industrial economies.
That's why we paid £13 billion a year, and Greece didn't.



Quell surprise. Greece, a nation famous for tax dodging and iffy accounting took the money and blew it. The idea that we can export our ethics and industrialism to countries who think we’re idiots and workaholics is laughable. You can’t indoctrinate whole countries no matter how much money you chuck at them.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 2/7/2018 12:53:18 AM
Kirk
"Quell surprise. Greece, a nation famous for tax dodging and iffy accounting took the money and blew it. The idea that we can export our ethics and industrialism to countries who think we’re idiots and workaholics is laughable. You can’t indoctrinate whole countries no matter how much money you chuck at them."

The greeks only done what they believed that the eu meant. Namely line your pockets. How 'international' socialists can have a wet dream over brussels is beyond me. You join the eu and you give up your rights and institutions. It's a statist wet dream. (Maybe that explains it)..........



"It is fortified by the self-appointed keepers of the left-wing flame, those among the commentariat who never tire of telling us that ‘workers’ rights… would be imperilled’ by a so-called ‘Hard Brexit’.

Then there’s the other EU, the one that actually exists. This is the EU that uses the pooled-without-consent sovereignty of its member states to pursue its own institutional self-preservation, impoverishing struggling Eurozone members, from Spain to Italy, in the name of economic stability; imposing leaders-cum-administrators on recalcitrant electorates in the interests of austerity; and brazenly betraying workers’ rights at every self-interested turn.

This EU – the actual EU, the one stubbornly committed to its own, not citizens’, interests – is not on the side of the worker. And it never was. Because this EU, when the economic imperative demands, is always against the worker.

But those attached to their fantasy left-wing ideal of the EU refuse to see the reality. To face up to this reality would simply be too much.

It would mock their left-wing pretensions, humiliate and expose them for what they are: a craven defence of the status quo – a status quo in which they have long prospered.

The EU forced the Syriza-led government of Alex Tsipras to implement new anti-union legislation, rendering strike action illegal unless over 50 per cent of union members have formally approved it.

The effect of such a measure, as the British trade-union movement discovered in the 1980s, will be to strangle workers’ freedoms in bureaucracy, and emasculate organised labour.

Yet peer beneath the narrative peddled by the EU’s UK-based PR machine, be it the FT or The Economist or the Guardian, and the reality of life under the EU in Greece tells us something different.

It speaks of EU-driven impoverishment, of a nation in which nearly one in four adults is unemployed (an unemployment rate that rises to one in two among under-25s); a nation in which net household income has fallen by over 40 per cent since 2009; and a nation, above all, in which people’s freedom to resist, to try to determine their own future, has been curtailed and, at points, eviscerated.

This EU, in which Greece is impoverished and politically neutered, is what Remainers support. This is their utopia of workers’ rights and compassionate capitalism.

This is their oh-so-left-wing cause. They should be ashamed.


http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/the-eu-is-the-enemy-of-the-working-classes/21089#.Wnq7nHqnxcs
 Justanotherchap
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Another cock up
Posted: 2/8/2018 3:49:32 AM
I wish we had a few European commentators on here so that we could compare notes.

After years of austerity (yes Billy I know) which has achieved absolutely nothing positive financially for the country, we have the CBI telling the government they're clueless (The CBI for God's sake). Northamptonshire council effectively going bust, household rates set to rise dramatically in comparison. Crime is increasing, huge vacancies in all areas of the NHS and the same in care homes. Worst ever A&E performance.

And that is just today's Guardian front page.

Are European governments (excepting Greece) so clueless?
 RoxyMoronic
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Another cock up
Posted: 2/8/2018 3:54:28 AM
The NHS should get its own shit in order.
Stop asking for more funding in the hopes you can run a better service.
Start only paying the people on the top of the pile, when they produce.
Get the nurses to stop having 10/15 minute ‘chats’ in between seeing patients.
Sick of going to hospital and seeing nurses standing around chatting saying how ‘rushed off their feet’ they are.
 rekirked
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Another cock up
Posted: 2/8/2018 4:52:16 AM
Hooray! Finally someone on my wavelength re nurses and their undeserved reverence as saints. My experience tells me they’re a mixed bag and no more saintly than the rest of us. I also agree the NHS is perfectly well funded, just shockingly badly run.
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