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 Theydidnotfixit
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What ?
A B O U T T H E D E B T ... please pauline and the consequences .....

Cabbage?

Who dislikes you ? ..I don't. ... These people left years ago. We all .....ten ? of us love you.

You called me a wee man ...yesterday ...a mere trifle as I'm tall. Thank you for removing the " pal" bit ..as that
upset me . Dearest Billy would have been better.

Stop using the word dig. Stop Flouncing please dont get upset with that word. Its just mild constructive criticism. Your thoughts become your words and your words become your actions.

I love the SNP...

In topic I think the most important issue is the debt not
Brexit. Thank you.

So you don't like my posts? No big deal I still like yours.


*Aggggghhhhhh... weeail .....eeeeeeeeeurrrghh .........yaaaamummy*
 Paulineandzeus
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Posted: 8/27/2018 6:19:08 AM
Not as green as I'm cabbage looking. It means not as stupid as I look. I removed the pal bit because up here we use it when we are being a bit sarcastic. As well as in the friendship sense.

Hold on. You didn't even have a PHOTO up when I called you wee man. You could have been four foot two or 7 foot 10 for all I knew

Mild constuctuve criticism is not criticising someone for their politics while leaving other people who share the same political beliefs alone

Your posts are not what I have issue with. Your posting style is what I sometimes find hard to understand.

If you don't think brexit is the biggest issue then why don't you start a thread about what you perceive that issue to be.

Sometimes you can't be arsed with this place. That's where I am (yet again). It's not flouncing. I left the last time. Several times. Because I wasn't coping with stuff away from here. The mistake I made was to keep coming back on and trying again. There are other places to be if I want to talk politics or anything else.

The last time I left I left for 7 months. I didn't miss it either.

Ps. Paul can come back any time he chooses. He just doesn't need to converse with me.
 Paulineandzeus
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Posted: 8/27/2018 8:23:10 AM

Ps. Paul can come back any time he chooses. He just doesn't need to converse with me.<


I must be psychic. Talk of shite and it hits you in the face as we say up here.

Didn't think he would stay away long anyway tbh,

Just booked for the SNP conference.

They live stream it, you could watch and learn from Nicola's speech (jokes)
 Paulineandzeus
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Posted: 8/30/2018 1:59:51 PM
That is Panasonic moving out of the UK and Brexit is apparently to blame

(but its going to be great)

http://uk.businessinsider.com/panasonic-to-move-european-hq-to-amsterdam-brexit-2018-8

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Since 2 of the last 10 posts are yours you can not post to this thread.

Wonga have gone into administration. BOO HOO

NOT
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 8/30/2018 2:24:48 PM
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"That is Panasonic moving out of the UK and Brexit is apparently to blame

(but its going to be great)

http://uk.businessinsider.com/panasonic-to-move-european-hq-to-amsterdam-brexit-2018-8

In order to maintain the highest quality forums you are restricted to having no more then 2 of the last 10 posts on a thread.
Since 2 of the last 10 posts are yours you can not post to this thread.

Wonga have gone into administration. BOO HOO

NOT"


Have you seen the reason why? They do not wish to pay more tax. They will be sorely missed............



"Panasonic will move its European headquarters from the UK to Amsterdam in October as Brexit approaches.

The aim is to avoid potential tax issues linked to the UK's decision to leave the EU, said Panasonic Europe's chief executive Laurent Abadie.

In the run-up to March 2019, a number of multinational firms have said they plan to move jobs out of the UK.

Several Japanese financial companies have said they intend to move their main EU bases away from London.

Panasonic's decision was driven by a fear that Japan could start considering the UK a tax haven if it cuts corporate tax rates to attract business, Mr Abadie told the Nikkei Asian Review newspaper."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45351288


As for wonga i blame brexit AND the russians.

And jings ALL 20 of them are leaving...........

Abadie told the newspaper that Panasonic had been considering a move for the past 15 months, with concerns about barriers to the flow of people and goods also a factor in the decision to move.

Of the 20 to 30 people in the London office, around 10 to 20 employees dealing with auditing and financial operations would move. Investor relations staff would stay put, the newspaper said

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/08/30/panasonic-move-european-hq-london-netherlands-brexit-concerns/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/08/30/panasonic-move-european-hq-london-netherlands-brexit-concerns/
 rekirked
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Posted: 8/30/2018 2:44:11 PM
Who ever said Brexit was going to be great?

Most people on either side of the argument knew a potential Brexit would be difficult and potentially costly to the UK and not just in the short term either.

The UK still voted leave.

Why do remoaners keep trotting out the same old arguments about economics? It was never about economics. Most people with at least one functioning brain cell knew that 350 million a week figure trotted out during the campaign was wrong.

They still voted leave.

Brexit was/is about sovereignty, democracy, borders and for a few people it was about the fact they'd never been asked to join the EU in the first place.
 Paulineandzeus
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Posted: 8/30/2018 2:50:21 PM

Who ever said Brexit was going to be great?


I was being sarcastic. Some people do think Brexit is going to be great, I'm very active on Twitter and loads of people on there think its going to be brilliant


Why do remoaners keep trotting out the same old arguments about economics? It was never about economics. Most people with at least one functioning brain cell knew that 350 million a week figure trotted out during the campaign was wrong.


I mentioned economics because it was suggested earlier on in the thread that I didn't have a clue what I was talking about when it comes to financial issues

I voted remain. I wouldn't consider myself a remoaner. I know its just a name people like to call people who voted remain, can't think of anything similar for people who voted leave.

Assume that people are called such because they aren't supposed to object to the fact that vote leave won. Certainly can't think of any other reason (maybe someone will enlighten me).
 rekirked
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Posted: 8/30/2018 2:55:12 PM

I wouldn't consider myself a remoaner. I know its just a name people like to call people who voted remain, can't think of anything similar for people who voted leave


Brexiteers
Little Englanders
Thick
Racists
Uneducated

Take your pick, they've all been very popular.
 RoxyMoronic
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Posted: 8/30/2018 11:21:33 PM
^^^Yeh but jovan isn’t here anymore :)
 Theydidnotfixit
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Posted: 9/1/2018 12:38:39 AM
Jo isn't here, I think, because he simply got sick of siding with the remainers aka the gulag slave masters (or the work shy) over the working classes.

Make no mistake the working class populists have been deracinated by the machine and its useless idiots.

All the working classes have built and sacrificed for has been destroyed by thieves and their educated moronic gimps who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

Property rights, the rule of law, democracy, capitalism, trade, sound money, productivity, savings, price discovery, an actual working class, all jettisoned.

I don't want to teach any history phds out there how to suck eggs...I don't eat eggs..... but we have been here before in the past. What persuaded you, money ? Sex? Status? stupidity? moral turpitude?

Two words...monetary crack. Everything is broken now. Somewhere along the line we all got seduced by the easy money world of the unthinking or corrupt academic. You know invent a pseudo science called economics and hand out a few Nobel prizes, to frankly a collection of embarrassments~that even their very own mothers would not acknowledge.

What comes next? Well we have an emerging markets crisis brewing again. You would think that education would have prevented this but obscurantism and graft is the name of thy game in large parts of academia and stupidity.

"Markets", traders, or the algorithms, seem largely unconcerned. Argentina (I think their name means silver..ironic point) have dutifully raise their base interest rate from 45 to 60% this week. Safe to say that life is grinding to a halt in Argentina.

Turkey who holding a million ? Refugees for the EU gulag are suggesting they might not pay their debts. Well this has sent the banking cartel that is the ECB into a tizzy and may precipitate the gulag counterfeiters to run in and offer them even more debt. Put simply one way or another the European banks would be bailed out. Their losses socialised. Don't fret snowflaking remainers anyone in this unproductive runaway deathcamp can have socialism. To each not their own.

There are quite a lot of problems in emerging markets, not least the Socialist deathcamp and zoo animal eating, oil rich, bus driver led, shining light that is Venezuela. But glossing over this let's all look at well off Albeit insolvent Italy. Italy is in trouble. They have a populist government with no money as a result of years of gulag assistance. Could it need just a wee bit more assistance from the productive..Angela. Maybe You could tip germany into insolvency.

Don't worry. There is a safe haven. Namely the biggest debtor nation in history. President Trump must be loving this with the midterms in November. With his policy of QT (which he purports not to like), hot money is flowing out of emerging markets and into Tesla ,Netflix and Miami condominiums (plural ending ?)

The safe haven trade. (Investors or pension money that's looking for a safe place so some form of pension could be paid out one day.) A trade made to avoid one's money being stolen.

America, The land of the deadbeat debt serf. Could it be with their effective fed funds rate at 1.9% and rising a free people's only chance. Will Donald Trump clutch mankind to his moobs ? Will he save us from universal basic income cheques of £10,000 pounds a week that will only pay for a mouldy loaf ?

So where are we. Ah yes a 1.9 effective fed funds rate. All very positive. Until you strip out governmental/state inflation of 2.9%. That would then leave you with a negative rate of minus one. Oh...Of course I don't really believe the 2.9% figure. Preferring my own made up one ( better than a lie) Of ten %. Which is a real effective fed funds rate of minus 8.1%.

If the free market were to intrude here I think houses prices which are falling Mr chancellor :) would fall 90 % . Unemployment would rise to perhaps 70%. As the free market would always seek to establish truth over government lies. Clearly everyone is spaced out on monetary crack. Everything is clear and real to me though.

Some people think that gold, that is $1200 fiat dollars, is going to zero. Others whom I respect say it's going to $950 dollars. I personally don't care about the price it is its value that I hold it for.
 Theydidnotfixit
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Posted: 9/2/2018 6:47:35 AM
Of course it's all Brexit, if we had just sided with our slave masters we wouldn't have unpayable debts or bills that we could never pay stuffed down the back of our sofa. Often known as off balance sheets liabilities. Or over a quadrillion dollars of exposure to derivative contracts, some 80% of which are tied to interest rates staying at zero. All not payable. It screams earth insolvent to me and it has for years.

And yet here we are being called racists, little Englanders, backward, people who were lied to
and should be pitied. Remoaners, gimps, fascists, thieves really should get a grip on reality and stop ingesting the fascist-corporate-state media because it's embarrassing watching you twist in your colossal ignorance of the crimes being committed in your name. Thank you.

Reading the Saturday Mail I see that £2,300 has come off the average UK house in August. .5% fall. London house prices are plummeting. Where London property prices go, there goes the country. Having house prices going up is the work of government. In capitalism they would tend to not and maybe get cheaper thus making life easy for the young. But that's not the sort of price fall that's happening here.

Jeremy Corbyn is still not getting over his problems with the Jewish community. A way to look at this is that his enemies have gotten their teeth into him and they are not letting go.

Theresa May. I think her dancing may serve her well at the ballot box.

America v emerging markets & protectionist cabal, club gulag. Well it's still QT (unprinting money) clearly the rest of the world does not like this. The addict really does not want to go cold turkey. We fear wipe out. So please Mr Jerome powell ****ing stop it. Oh but that would let the cat out of the bag. Even the dimmest of us would notice then.

U.S. Q1 outstanding student debt (government..tax payer back stopped) is now $1.53 trillion dollars.
only mortgages in the consumer debt categories is more. What will we do with overpaid remoaning university professors ? When the time comes. I think we had cleaner public toilets when we were younger. if I was a student i wouldn't pay them a penny. Of course the politicians can stick it on the tax debt serfs.

Student debt why??..only really because the fascist debt based fractional reserve system needs to grow the debt in greater and greater amounts of debt. You vote for it. Nick Clegg simply thought he wasn't going to be in office. And you know it still didn't work out too bad for him.


Total global debt $247 trillion,15 years ago $97 trillion. 318% of GDP. Studies ( a Lot) have shown that when an economy reaches 90 % of GDP.. Growth or the ability to repay or even to service debt even at zero interest rates (or negative) tails off. Hence more debt Serfdom.
 Justanotherchap
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Posted: 9/3/2018 3:33:26 AM
Who knows Billy but please stop confusing us with your verisons of socialism and conservatism.

I find it amusing that Trump is telling the world how much largesse America is splashing around and how we all ought to be grateful when exactly the opposite is true. America is soaking up the world resources in return for currency which is effectively the worlds reserve currency. Should the scales ever fall from people eyes there will be mayhem.
 Theydidnotfixit
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Posted: 9/3/2018 7:04:08 AM
Hello chap.. totally agree with your 2nd paragraph.

As for the first part, I know it's invidious but
I going to shout from the roof tops that our problems
are socialist. And the cure for its ills is seemingly..socialism.

As for conservatism it's simply a word for ...socialism.
Conservatives wouldn't know what capitalism were if
it bit them on the bottom.

We return to power time and again warmongering fascists.
The marriage of the state with entrenched corporate interests.
Arguably the most important price on the planet is not set naturally by
supply and demand but by the federal open market committee. A fecking
committee. Fake prices , fake companies
leads to no economy. The printing press (fake money)
leads to debt Serfdom. And then no economy. I hope I
make my contempt for centralisation and its inherent risks quite clear.
 Cliff1960
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Posted: 9/8/2018 6:50:43 AM
Greenland left the EU years ago. their econmy went from terrible when in the EU to 1 of the best in the world within a few years of leaving the UE. they had to declare indepandance from denmark to get out though.

UE overrulles r Govts policies and laws. IE david cammeron passed a law stating u had to speak English and have a skil we needed to live and work in Britian. Overuled by the EU we r forced to let anyone in.
No border security no pasport controls so anyone can come here. Once they get into tyhe EU they can just come the UK with no checks on who they r or where their from or why they r here.

We r forced to pay unemployment benefits to imigrants that come here work and pay taxes for 1 year then give up their jobs claim bennefits and go back home. We have to give them free NHS treatment when they need it. So if they r in Poland and get in an accident a plane is hired and they get flown to the UK to be treated using NHS funds.

Cammeroon tried to stop that happeneing but the EU said nope cant do that. As long as they have paid tax in the UK for 1 year we have to pay them for the rest of their lives no mater where they live after leaving the UK even if they get jobs back home.

Itys why the HNS ius struggling and we have all the benefit cuts. Its to pay for all the EU imigrants that went back home.
 Justanotherchap
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Posted: 9/8/2018 7:02:42 AM
sounds like complete bollocks to me.
 Paulineandzeus
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Posted: 9/8/2018 7:14:41 AM

Itys why the HNS ius struggling and we have all the benefit cuts. Its to pay for all the EU imigrants that went back home.


The surgeon who saved my mums life was an immgrant. He has now gone home.


Once they get into tyhe EU they can just come the UK with no checks on who they r or where their from or why they r here.


I live in a community that has a lot of Polish people in it. The ones I know, ie my neighbours, some of them work 2 and 3 jobs or have their own businesses. They contribute to the community positively.



We r forced to pay unemployment benefits to imigrants that come here work and pay taxes for 1 year then give up their jobs claim bennefits and go back home.


Nothing about this statement makes sense I am afraid. They work and pay taxes and then they claim benefits and go home. What is the issue exactly if they go home?


tys why the HNS ius struggling and we have all the benefit cuts.


This is not why the NHS is struggling and it is not why we have benefit cuts. This current Govt spends billions of pounds on other things. Levels of benefits never rise with the rate of inflation, nowhere near it. No one who was ever on JSA or any other basic benefit ever had anywhere near enough to live on. This is historical. People who got sup ben or income support in the 1980s were paid a pittance.

Immigrants make a massive contribution to the NHS. Nurses, doctors. You speak as if all immigrants come here to work for a year and then choose to go home. This is a massive sweeping statement and its not factually correct. Phillipa Whitford is an MP and she is also a surgeon. He husband is a GP. He is German, he has been here for over 30 years.

Here is the actual truth of the matter

Under EU law, after 3 months, EU migrants must have a job or have funds to live. If not, then they can be returned to their home country. The UK doesn’t do this, nor does it register migrants as they arrive. The UK is one of the few governments who has not implemented this.
Uncontrolled immigration? Don't blame the EU, blame the UK Government.



Cammeroon tried to stop that happeneing but the EU said nope cant do that. As long as they have paid tax in the UK for 1 year we have to pay them for the rest of their lives no mater where they live after leaving the UK even if they get jobs back home.


Except, this isn't quite the case is it? You also don't get unemployment benefits if you are actually working.

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/work/finding-job-abroad/transferring-unemployment-benefits/index_en.htm



So if they r in Poland and get in an accident a plane is hired and they get flown to the UK to be treated using NHS funds.


Someone from Poland would not need to be flown to the UK for treatment. They have their own.

Healthcare in Poland. Poland's health care system centers around an all-inclusive insurance scheme, and the state provides subsidized health care to all Polish citizens who are covered by the general health insurance.

Seriously, lets not turn this into a lets blame it all on the immigrants thread, that would be ridiculous.
 Paulineandzeus
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Posted: 9/8/2018 7:19:24 AM
https://juniordoctorblog.com/2018/08/22/brexit-and-the-nhs-just-the-facts-part-1-medicine/

https://juniordoctorblog.com/2018/08/23/brexit-and-the-nhs-just-the-facts-part-2-going-nuclear/

https://juniordoctorblog.com/2018/08/31/brexit-and-the-nhs-just-the-facts-part-3-we-the-people/

https://juniordoctorblog.com/2018/09/08/brexit-and-the-nhs-just-the-facts-part-4-show-me-the-money/


Something about health tourism and is it causing an A and E crisis

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/high-immigration-nhs-crisis
 Theydidnotfixit
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Posted: 9/8/2018 10:01:21 AM
Small is beautiful certainly cliff . Diffuse the risk. We need more organic societies not less. Revolting ideas of the completely malformed artificial fascist wannabe european gulag state must be fought at every turn. We should never surrender to these blood sucking job dodging bureaucrats.

Certainly mass migration with a welfare state is ruinous. Immigrants to late nineteenth century and early 20th century America either provided for themselves or went home. Half went home. America got themselves the best and or the luckiest.

We have a massive welfare dependency problem. Especially with the European banks and their zombie corporations that we must overthrow. To do this will entail no action. Because government is dying. The people through sacrifice will be asked to try again to rebuild their lives away from the blandishments of socialism.
 Paulineandzeus
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Posted: 9/8/2018 2:47:25 PM

We have a massive welfare dependency problem. Especially with the European banks and their zombie corporations that we must overthrow. To do this will entail no action. Because government is dying. The people through sacrifice will be asked to try again to rebuild their lives away from the blandishments of socialism.


This has got eff all to do with Brexit
 Theydidnotfixit
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Posted: 9/9/2018 2:17:45 AM

Small is beautiful certainly cliff . Diffuse the risk. We need more organic societies not less. Revolting ideas of the completely malformed artificial fascist wannabe european gulag state must be fought at every turn. We should never surrender to these blood sucking job dodging bureaucrats. 

Certainly mass migration with a welfare state is ruinous. Immigrants to late nineteenth century and early 20th century America either provided for themselves or went home. Half went home. America got themselves the best and or the luckiest.

We have a massive welfare dependency problem. Especially with the European banks and their zombie corporations that we must overthrow. To do this will entail no action. Because government is dying. The people through sacrifice will be asked to try again to rebuild their lives away from the blandishments of socialism.



Charming....and some context..
 Paulineandzeus
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Posted: 9/9/2018 2:27:41 AM
Hi Billy.

I can't be bothered with you. Your first post back on the board was a dig at me over Pauls details being posted up when it was someone else who posted them.

You've spent this thread going on about fiat money and socialism, making digs about me about the snp and you called me out on another thread claiming I insulted chap when I did no such thing.

Do you want to follow me around the boards making digs at everything I post because it very much seems like everyone else can post as they choose on this forum including you and I can't.

Or do you as I suggested elsewhere stop making snide digs at me and just ignore my posts from now on in.

I'd go for option two personally.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 9/10/2018 4:11:04 AM
Oh what a chucklesome morning it has been. All the worlds elites and lying press tried their damnedness to scupper working class swedes from voting for the Sweden Democrats.

The usual (yawn) nazi, fascist istismophobe words were used. But those tired old words mean nowt anymore. They have been used so much that they are meaningless.

Once all the wailing is over the elitist politicos are going to have to embrace policies the insurgent populists propose.

And see when you think about it nigel farage drove the brexit vote. Nigel farage brought down camerons tory government. Nigel farage will help bring down Mays tory government.

Maybe nigel is more in tune with voters than the entitled political elites? Either way the old order is taking a well deserved shoeing from the new insurgents. Long may the chaos and upset last.

And this below shows just how much the gulag needs destroyed................



"The Undemocratic EU Explained - It Will Never Change

The EU's law-making process is fundamentally undemocratic. Power is vested in the unelected and unaccountable elite who make laws - in secret - to preserve the status of large multinationals at the expense of small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs).

Multinationals achieve their preferential status by spending enormous sums of money on lobbying. They create a complicated regulatory framework, which only large companies with their Human Resources departments can comply with.

This drives small competitors out of business, destroys competition and encourages monopolies, forcing the consumer to pay a higher price for poorer quality goods and services.

There are four key institutions of the EU: the European Commission, European Parliament, European Council and the Court of Justice of the EU.

Each institution supposedly represents separate interests.

The Commission represents the EU, the Parliament represents the people, the Council represents the Governments of each Member State and the Court interprets the law.

However, these institutions do not do this in practice, as they all represent large multinationals and an integrationist agenda, as the intention is to create a federal United States of Europe.

This new country already has a flag, a Parliament, an anthem, Presidents, currency, a legal system, legal status and a navy - to name just a few.

The EU Commission is the guardian of the treaties and enforces EU law. More importantly, this means it is the Government of Europe which has the sole right to propose the laws which increasingly encroach on our lives here in Britain.

The Commission is made up of 28 unelected commissioners, who cannot be held to account. Each commissioner has a specific policy area in which to create laws.

The Commission has a President (currently Jean-Claude Juncker); unlike the other 27 commissioners he is personally elected by the European Parliament, however his was the only name on the ballot paper, not exactly democratic.

The EU is a highly undemocratic organisation ratcheting more and more power with every passing day. It is impervious to public opinion. The people who matter in the law-making process are unelected and therefore unaccountable."

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/matthew-ellery/eu-referendum_b_9514608.html
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 9/10/2018 6:04:34 AM
And regarding the fantastic result the Sweden Democrats achieved considering all the elites and lying press tried to destroy them i read this below.

Yes the social democrats who have called the Sweden Democrats nazis etc etc were responsible for this..........




"Social Democrats implemented measures to forcibly sterilise 62,000 people

By Steve James

19 March 1999

For over 40 years, young socially marginalised working class women in Sweden faced the danger of forced sterilisation. This was carried out under laws intended to purify the Swedish race, prevent the mentally ill from reproducing and stamp out social activities classed as deviant. The last sterilisation took place in 1975.

Between 1934 and 1976, when the Sterilisation Act was finally repealed, 62,000 people, 90 percent of them women, were sterilised. 15-year-old teenagers were sterilised for "crimes" such as going to dance halls. One woman was sterilised in 1960 for being in a motorcycle gang.

Orphans were sterilised as a condition of their release from children's homes. Others were pinpointed on the basis of local neighbourhood gossip and personal grudges. Some were targeted because of their "low intelligence", being of mixed race, being gypsies, or for physical defects."

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/1999/03/euge-19m.html
 Justanotherchap
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Posted: 9/11/2018 3:01:25 AM
I read a piece by Simon Jenkins in the Guardian yesterday about the rise of the right wing in Europe. You can read it here https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/10/immigration-europe-sweden-elections-brexit

But the headline of the article is "Xenophobia is sweeping the continent. European agreement to address migration is vital". This is th problem, as long as the ruling classes think they know best, we won't have change. That I am against uncontrolled immigration does not make me racist nor xenophobic and as long as people keep telling me I am, I will keep pushing back.
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Brexit? A coup de grace?
Posted: 9/16/2018 4:04:33 AM
I don't watch much Andrew Marr. He opens his propaganda show this morning with the words. ...ten years after the great financial crash ...politicians and Economists are warning of another crash. Too much borrowing...no shit Sherlock ....others are saying Brexit means Britain is going to
boom. And then he said something about us not to worry as we can hold them to account. In our cardboard boxes presumedly.

You see what he did there? He linked the global economy that they did not fix! in 2008 with a referendum held in the United kingdom.. A complete and utter tosser. Sadiq Khan was on talking about a people's referendum. Presumedly we can just have another after that.

Vince Cable was on he didn't upset me. **stardo.

Brexit is quite simply the expulsion of alien unelected bureaucrats into the channel and its unelected Commission and its 3 (is it) unelected presidents.We have our own slimeballs that I would like to start earning their corn by taking on some responsibility.

I don't mind a second referendum or a third or a fourth as long as I can hold to account this class of lying scum. The European wannabe super state does not do accountability. It's a pathetic attempt at another rich man's club. **** off parasities.

We still rely on cheap and plentiful fossil fuels to drive this globalist remoaning economy .Fracking is unprofitable..So we use debt. There is not enough money in the world so we use money substitutes like derivatives to hide our insolvency. Nothing to do with Brexit. The insolvency goes way back two decades. Ten years ago the masses got a glimpse of all this when lehmans went under and others, including AIG, got bailed out. The global Authorities then doubled down on their bankrupt policies. There is no alternative, bankruptcy now or tomorrow. That's it.

Brexit is not their policy. Nothing to do with their debt built up over decades. Give your head a shake. An exponential financial model does not fit in a finite world. It eventually and then increasingly quickly outgrows it. It's not debatable.


The did not fix it. They used the printing press. They faked money, a trick and a recourse for countless regimes throughout history. We always concentrate power. We always take what's easy. Too much paper chasing not enough goods and services. Leading to even more paper chasing even less goods and services. Or in the end not enough money.
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