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 billybonds
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I don't know how the rest of the world survives without that free market ( Orwellian bullshit) high tariff protectionist rubbish. The eternally criminal city of London has more power than those feather bedded panjandrums. They want us back in. All hail the 52% & down with globalist remainers. In essence I know my goose was cooked sometime ago we are essentially a one world economy ...with perhaps the Chinese and the Russians showing any true sovereignty or independence or indy if you must.

We are all relying on the dollar but it's failing. We must prepare for the post dollar era that is coming. The ten year U.S.treasury is now 2.66% ..2.41 on new years day. Its 228 year low was 1.32% in August 2016. If it goes past 3%...I predict a riot or a return to QE . But what to buy the ECB has already bought all the bonds up in the euro zone. .I predict they will start buying shares. Japan and the Swiss are doing it, so why not nationalise everything.

I use to think europhiles were committing treason against their own country sometimes over a perceived economic benefit for themselves but it's worse than that. I believe in freedom, private property, sound money, responsibility and savings being rewarded.. The remainer and his apologists are just not selfish or treacherous but they are after your very freedom..we are hurtling towards a totalitarian evil communist world, we chose security over liberty and we deserve neither.

By a one world economy I mean that Britain won't fail inside or outside ...the eu trade prison .

Ahh Greece it's all working out so well for them the single market.. the single currency. ...

If you imagine an inverted pyramid of our financial structure at the top you will find amazon and shit like
that further down some reasonable companies no doubt..currencies like the European single currency..you may note that they didn't call it the European single money ...houses ... note I didn't say house prices.. further down towards the apex is it? You'd find the world's mighty Settlement currency the dollar and right at the bottom you'd find a tiny amount of gold.. (180,000 tonnes..about 40,000 of which is central bank gold) ..propping it all up.

It's not so much the debt but its collateral too.


 Scareyboatrace
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Posted: 1/21/2018 12:29:43 PM
I don't know if this is a result of the impending Brexit....but on the ground it would appear that it's impact has reached Ireland already.

My son applied for a job here but the company he wants to work for is British owned and it's HR office is British based....he got the job pending him furnishing them with photo I.D., most of us have passports, driver's licenses, national age cards or cards issued by Social Welfare with photo....he has none of those but he does have a form of photo I.D. given to him by the local Gardai which identifies him as the person he says he is and was good enough as a form of identification to allow him open a bank account but the HR company won't accept that as proof he is in fact an Irish national or a even a foreign national with an Irish work visa despite his having a PPS (national insurance?) number because they're unfamiliar with that form of I.D.

I was thinking that this HR company seems quite paranoid...or at least very concerned about keeping on the right side of law pending forthcoming Brexit rules re employment.

My other son works for another British concern but wasn't expected to give his employers photo I.D. He started working for them last November. In fact, the man who owns the business died in a helicopter crash recently and he had many interests in British businesses up and running in Ireland like Tesco and Argos amongst others.

Anyway, I was just interested in hearing any opinions on that.
 Pinkandblue79
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Posted: 1/27/2018 4:09:50 AM
I was asked to bring my passport along with me to the three job interviews I've been to.

Completely common and nothing to do with brexit.
 Jo van
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Posted: 1/28/2018 4:56:09 AM
The tories have been entirely responsible for this entire debacle.
-Ironically, they are still funded by the "city" (50% of their "donations" come from individuals in the financial sector), and position themselves as the "champions of business".
The reasons that immigration has soared on their watch, (despite all their demagoguery, and rhetoric about "labour's uncontrolled immigration", which won them the election) is because businesses have demanded it, and will continue to insist on some continuing form of "free movement".

Immigration may fall, temporarily, because of the perception of "xenophobia" putting-off would-be immigrants, or causing those already here to feel both uncertain and unwelcome, but most of our new record numbers of immigrants come from places other than the EU., and that has been steadily rising under this government.

When they sell weapons to India, or Saudi Arabia, or China, the governments who sign the orders, do so, with increased immigration as a "clause".
And the tories will always cave, to such demands from " the economy".

So their demagoguery gets the "low hanging fruit", by appealing to "patriotism" and "nationalism" and "tribalism", and other pernicious forms of "identity politics",
-and wins them elections. (Just like it did with trump )
But simultaneously, in practice, it harms "the economy".
So immigration won't ever reduce, as has been proved by the tories ever-increasing non-EU immigration, for the last 7 years.
-And all entirely "under their own control".

All of this only becomes a problem, (IMO) because the tories' own ideological dogma against "the welfare state", has caused them to underfund, and continue to cut the funding, for the infrastructure necessary to support such a growing population.
Health, education, housing.

-They make people hate "foreigners", for "the strain they put on services",
-while simultaneously cutting the funding for those same services.
This is dishonest.

If Britain wants to continue trading with EU countries, they will have to conform to the trading standards agreed, but will have no future say in devising this standards.
For the first time in over 40 years, it will at last, be correct to say that "other people are making our laws".

Personally, I think all this "identity politics" bollocks is deluded shit, and not at all supported by science and facts.
There is no "us" and "them",
Only us.

The "stock markets" and bonds markets, and derivatives markets are just a big "ponzi scheme".
Very little of that money finds its way to working people. (Except through "private pension schemes", which are another disgraceful scam, introduced by thatcher)
Only rich people have "capital" to spare.

Excessive wealth for a few, is invariably accompanied by excessive poverty for many.
-As is now the case.
I hope that billionaires will begin to realise that, voluntarily.
If not, I think we're now close to the "tipping point", where, even in the supposedly "most advanced nations", such inequality has impoverished such a large proportion of the population, that driving a Bugatti, or owning a "super yacht" will be like walking about with a target on your back.
-Is that really "buying a good life"?

Have a jolly Sunday.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 1/28/2018 5:29:40 AM
Josef Spartacus
"So their demagoguery gets the "low hanging fruit", by appealing to "patriotism" and "nationalism" and "tribalism", and other pernicious forms of "identity politics",
-and wins them elections. (Just like it did with trump )"


So was it that 'demagoguery' that convinced st jeremy of corbyn to say that mass migration drove down wages then? And do YOU not 'identify' with london labour and 70's politics?...........


"But simultaneously, in practice, it harms "the economy".
So immigration won't ever reduce, as has been proved by the tories ever-increasing non-EU immigration, for the last 7 years. -And all entirely "under their own control"."

So st jeremy of corbyn was lying when he said economic migration was driving down wages? Tsk. Lying was he?.......


"All of this only becomes a problem, (IMO) because the tories' own ideological dogma against "the welfare state", has caused them to underfund, and continue to cut the funding, for the infrastructure necessary to support such a growing population. Health, education, housing."


Was that the same welfare state that london labour promised to be even more extreme than the tories when miliband stood as party leader? Or have you conveniently forgot that? Again...........


"-They make people hate "foreigners", for "the strain they put on services",
-while simultaneously cutting the funding for those same services."

Like the abbottsaurus hates white folk? Like st jeremy of corbyn said migration cuts wages? And like london labour promised to be even 'more savage' on welfare cuts?

I admire the way you can forget things like that. Strange eh?
 billybonds
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Posted: 1/28/2018 5:39:10 AM
Agree with jo on the immigration thing. I think the tories will soon be on level terms with new labour. Our socialist-debt system that I call debtism demands unlimited debt serfs.


Also all our markets are fake ...he's quite correct. Although I wouldn't personalise it except to say the lady left office thirty years ago, Tony Blair is a genocidal murderer and Nicola sturgeon is a minute plump ostrich.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 1/28/2018 7:00:51 AM
Bondsy
"Agree with jo on the immigration thing. I think the tories will soon be on level terms with new labour. Our socialist-debt system that I call debtism demands unlimited debt serfs."


And i myself agreed with him many posts ago. My problem with jo is his memory loss where london labour contributed to the mess we are in now.

He skites over what THEY said and done. And as he said most migration comes from outside the eu. So lets stop ALL migration from non eu nations unless it is workers that are of a.benefit.

Sorted. Does one not agree?...........


"Also all our markets are fake ...he's quite correct. Although I wouldn't personalise it except to say the lady left office thirty years ago, Tony Blair is a genocidal murderer and Nicola sturgeon is a minute plump ostrich."

ALL our politicos are lightweights in my opinion. Lol like the description of wee nicky. But you know there is one geezer who has upset the cozy wee charade. Nigel farage.

He put call me dave to the sword. He could well bring the maybot to self explode. He and ukip stopped millibland and paved the way for st jeremy of corbyn to be anointed supreme leader.

Thats a no a bad result. Oh and brexit. Fair play to him.

And before the wailing wall from oxford mentions Scotland's brexit vote many many nationalists in Scotland are pro brexit.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 1/29/2018 12:18:41 PM
Once again spiked online shows who are the haters. Yes YOU remainer. YOU voted for the eu gulag to try and smash polish elected mp's. And in doing so went against the wishes of polish citizens.

Hang your globalist heads in shame. Tsk...........


"NOW WE KNOW WHO REALLY FEARS AND LOATHES POLES – REMAINERS

You just hate Poles and other foreigners, don’t you?’

For months after 23 June 2016, when the 17.4million voted to leave the EU, this was the line hurled at us.

Brexit was a xenophobic spasm, elitist Remainers said.

It was the cry of a prejudiced blob who didn’t like hearing Polish at their local GP’s or seeing a Hungarian lad emptying the bins.

Remainers even invented a Brexit hate-crime epidemic to try to prove their propagandistic claim that anti-EU people are driven by loathing of Poles and other non-Brits.

These self-styled defenders of Polish virtue against the Little Englander mob, these cosmopolitans who’ve spent more than a year telling us how concerned they are for Eastern Europeans, are now openly raging against what they view as idiotic Polish people.

Yesterday, European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker said, ‘We are not at war with Poland’. He
protests too much.

Tensions between the EU and Poland have been brewing for a couple of years. They exploded in December, when the EU took the extreme step of invoking Article 7 of the Lisbon Treaty, known as ‘the nuclear option’, against Poland.

Under this article, a nation can be subjected to sanctions by the EU, stripped of its voting rights in Brussels, and in essence be reduced to a second-class nation. Poland’s crime?

Its ruling party, Law and Justice, interfered in the workings of Poland’s constitutional court in a way which, according to the EU, ‘subverted democracy’.

And the EU’s answer to this alleged subversion of democracy is to subvert Polish democracy by pressuring an elected government that also enjoys very high ratings in opinion polls to change its political direction or else.

Lovely Orwellian irony."

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/now-we-know-who-really-fears-and-loathes-poles-remainers1/20802#.Wm9_IyOnxcs
 RoxyMoronic
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Posted: 1/30/2018 12:10:02 AM
Another ‘leaked’ document professing we’re all doomed after Brexit.
You know I’m sick of it all now.
I can even imagine this document was only created to be leaked.
And who leaked it?
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 2/1/2018 9:52:47 PM
This is brilliant. Dummy well and truly spat out.

Good luck to the geezer. Now this has came to light we can lob foreign nationals who commit crimes over to Ireland.

They can then pay for their upkeep.

Maybe our corrupt politicians can piss off as well? And take the anti democracy dafties with them........

"Irish court refuses man's extradition because of Brexit

The judgment it issued revealed the man is one of about 20 people in a similar position resisting removal to Britain on identical legal grounds.

The surprise decision in Dublin is an early sign of the disruption Brexit may inflict on legal cooperation across the continent. A fresh extradition treaty between the two countries could be needed.

Thomas Joseph O’Connor, 51, a construction company director, from Roscommon, had been convicted of tax fraud in London in 2007 but then absconded on bail and fled to Ireland.

The Irish supreme court, however, declined to extradite him to the UK and instead ruled that his case should be referred to the European Court of Justice (ECJ) in Luxembourg to resolve the issue.

If returned to the UK, the court noted, he would “continue to be imprisoned in the United Kingdom beyond 29 March, 2019, when the United Kingdom will withdraw from the European Union”.

Lawyers for O’Connor said that Ireland was being asked to surrender an EU citizen to a country where the EU charter of fundamental rights might no longer be capable of enforcement.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/01/irish-court-refuses-mans-extradition-because-of-brexit
 Justanotherchap
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Posted: 2/6/2018 8:53:04 AM
Anna Soubury threatening to leave the Conservative party if Johnson or Rees-Mogg become PM. Interesting as the comment seemd to suggest the Tories have completely given up on May and are now discussing the change in public.

More news from the EU - only Serbia and Montenegro have started membership talks, but Mogherini said Albania and Macedonia are deemed to be making “significant progress”, while Bosnia-Herzegovina and Kosovo are further behind. i just don't see how such disparate economies, standards and political stances can be stitched together.


Goooaaaaal!
 rekirked
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Posted: 2/6/2018 8:56:47 AM
They can’t be stitched together but it won’t stop them trying, the reason the EU is doomed to fail is because they keep letting potless peasants join.
 Jo van
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Posted: 2/6/2018 11:27:23 AM
Many of the current members had "peasant" economies when they first joined.
The whole purpose was to "invest" in poorer countries, and "develop" them into industrial economies.
That's why we paid £13 billion a year, and Greece didn't.

Just sayin...

I'd rather have merkel running our country, than May.
Or Gove, or Johnson, or Reece-Mogg, or David David David.

They're just a bunch of incompetent fvckwits, playing some sort of "game", and to them, "winning" is just about being in power.
That's the sum total of their "ambition".
-That, and turning the clock back.
Conservatives stand for "old England".
It's bollocks IMO.
Maybe it's because most people's own lives are so shit, that the only "pride" they can have is in other people's accomplishments, and the past.?
I don't understand it.
-All this "identity politics".
I seem to be completely missing the "tribal" gene.
Who knows.
 rekirked
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Posted: 2/6/2018 3:18:03 PM

Many of the current members had "peasant" economies when they first joined.
The whole purpose was to "invest" in poorer countries, and "develop" them into industrial economies.
That's why we paid £13 billion a year, and Greece didn't.



Quell surprise. Greece, a nation famous for tax dodging and iffy accounting took the money and blew it. The idea that we can export our ethics and industrialism to countries who think we’re idiots and workaholics is laughable. You can’t indoctrinate whole countries no matter how much money you chuck at them.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 2/7/2018 12:53:18 AM
Kirk
"Quell surprise. Greece, a nation famous for tax dodging and iffy accounting took the money and blew it. The idea that we can export our ethics and industrialism to countries who think we’re idiots and workaholics is laughable. You can’t indoctrinate whole countries no matter how much money you chuck at them."

The greeks only done what they believed that the eu meant. Namely line your pockets. How 'international' socialists can have a wet dream over brussels is beyond me. You join the eu and you give up your rights and institutions. It's a statist wet dream. (Maybe that explains it)..........



"It is fortified by the self-appointed keepers of the left-wing flame, those among the commentariat who never tire of telling us that ‘workers’ rights… would be imperilled’ by a so-called ‘Hard Brexit’.

Then there’s the other EU, the one that actually exists. This is the EU that uses the pooled-without-consent sovereignty of its member states to pursue its own institutional self-preservation, impoverishing struggling Eurozone members, from Spain to Italy, in the name of economic stability; imposing leaders-cum-administrators on recalcitrant electorates in the interests of austerity; and brazenly betraying workers’ rights at every self-interested turn.

This EU – the actual EU, the one stubbornly committed to its own, not citizens’, interests – is not on the side of the worker. And it never was. Because this EU, when the economic imperative demands, is always against the worker.

But those attached to their fantasy left-wing ideal of the EU refuse to see the reality. To face up to this reality would simply be too much.

It would mock their left-wing pretensions, humiliate and expose them for what they are: a craven defence of the status quo – a status quo in which they have long prospered.

The EU forced the Syriza-led government of Alex Tsipras to implement new anti-union legislation, rendering strike action illegal unless over 50 per cent of union members have formally approved it.

The effect of such a measure, as the British trade-union movement discovered in the 1980s, will be to strangle workers’ freedoms in bureaucracy, and emasculate organised labour.

Yet peer beneath the narrative peddled by the EU’s UK-based PR machine, be it the FT or The Economist or the Guardian, and the reality of life under the EU in Greece tells us something different.

It speaks of EU-driven impoverishment, of a nation in which nearly one in four adults is unemployed (an unemployment rate that rises to one in two among under-25s); a nation in which net household income has fallen by over 40 per cent since 2009; and a nation, above all, in which people’s freedom to resist, to try to determine their own future, has been curtailed and, at points, eviscerated.

This EU, in which Greece is impoverished and politically neutered, is what Remainers support. This is their utopia of workers’ rights and compassionate capitalism.

This is their oh-so-left-wing cause. They should be ashamed.


http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/the-eu-is-the-enemy-of-the-working-classes/21089#.Wnq7nHqnxcs
 Justanotherchap
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Posted: 2/8/2018 3:49:32 AM
I wish we had a few European commentators on here so that we could compare notes.

After years of austerity (yes Billy I know) which has achieved absolutely nothing positive financially for the country, we have the CBI telling the government they're clueless (The CBI for God's sake). Northamptonshire council effectively going bust, household rates set to rise dramatically in comparison. Crime is increasing, huge vacancies in all areas of the NHS and the same in care homes. Worst ever A&E performance.

And that is just today's Guardian front page.

Are European governments (excepting Greece) so clueless?
 RoxyMoronic
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Posted: 2/8/2018 3:54:28 AM
The NHS should get its own shit in order.
Stop asking for more funding in the hopes you can run a better service.
Start only paying the people on the top of the pile, when they produce.
Get the nurses to stop having 10/15 minute ‘chats’ in between seeing patients.
Sick of going to hospital and seeing nurses standing around chatting saying how ‘rushed off their feet’ they are.
 rekirked
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Posted: 2/8/2018 4:52:16 AM
Hooray! Finally someone on my wavelength re nurses and their undeserved reverence as saints. My experience tells me they’re a mixed bag and no more saintly than the rest of us. I also agree the NHS is perfectly well funded, just shockingly badly run.
 billybonds
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our legal tender "money" is worthless .....That's whats wrong with us materially, spiritually and romantically....without money we are drudges, bonded debt serfs.......
Posted: 2/11/2018 5:15:02 AM
We are still in!!! what part of ###@ ##$@ £¥÷×/#@!! don't these globalists remaining socialist evil communists understand. As far as I can see they obviously want to keep the fourth reich on track and are using the arguments of big business and their idea of trade to thwart our day of #^£$!! you Mr totalitarian fascist globalist.

Of course this creed killed a hundred billion last century. I was there. And I'm sad to say I think they will do a lot more in the coming decades. Unless we catch ourselves on.

The trouble with this ideology it hides the realities of life never wrestles with them, the abuses, the corruption of power and dumb ideas. Then one day we look back and are horrified by what's happened. The dreamers and the schemers. Don't let them treat us as a collective! !

Meanwhile the world's largest hedge fund, Bridgewater, headed by Ray Dalio fresh from Davos where he talked about how great the "markets" were to people who had paid a serious amount of money to hear his thoughts might now be feeling used. As according to bloomberg, and regulatory filings as of February 8th, Bridgewater now has at least $13 billion in European union short positions ahead of the March 4th Italian elections.

There are a lot of banks, Banco Santander's bet is $708 million.I think it's separate from its British one. The biggest is oil giant Total he's bet a billion dollars on its share price going down. The European Central Bank are going to quantitatively tighten this year . Interesting times .

Shorting a share is when ray borows a Total oil share for a period of time for a small fee. Ray obviously doesn't think very much of the share and immediately sells it. Then at some point he must give it back. If it goes up ray loses. If it stays the same Ray wonders why he got out of bed . But if it drops then ray gets to buy it back at a lower price. And Ray gets to go to Davos again and tell everyone that everything looks rosy.
 try1more
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:30:31 PM
"The NHS should get its own shit in order.
Stop asking for more funding in the hopes you can run a better service.
Start only paying the people on the top of the pile, when they produce. "

this i agree with

"Get the nurses to stop having 10/15 minute ‘chats’ in between seeing patients.
Sick of going to hospital and seeing nurses standing around chatting saying how ‘rushed off their feet’ they are."

sorry but this i don't agree with.
hospital work should generally be quite a cushty number on a day to day basis, if they are working at a 100% from day to day what the eff happens when there is a major incident?
it's no different to saying there should be no empty beds in hospitals.

i think you need to re-think.
 RoxyMoronic
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Another cock up
Posted: 2/12/2018 6:02:51 AM
I’m not quite sure what you mean Try, my fault....but perhaps make it more simplistic :)
In an ideal world nurses would sit on their bums all day because everyone is well.
I’m just recounting my experiences of what I’ve witnessed.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 3/19/2018 8:56:34 AM
Now we are all aware that our 'international socialist' commissar from oxford hates the working folk who voted for brexit. They are 'thick' 'stupid' 'racist (yawwwwn) etc etc.

Can you remember when st jeremy of corbyn became leader of london labour? Oor jo was gushing in praise because 'at last, a TRUE socialist alternative'.

Did any of yous read this from Scottish labours conference?

St jeremy of corbyn has recognised that citizens have concerns. Hence this below...........


"Jeremy Corbyn has said Brexit will put a stop to firms “importing cheap labour” to undercut the wages of UK workers.

The Labour leader said the Government “cannot be held back” by EU membership from challenging the rules of the free market.

But his remarks drew criticism from SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon, who accused him of appropriating the language of former Ukip leader Nigel Farage.

Addressing the Scottish Labour conference in Dundee, Mr Corbyn said Britain needed a Labour government with "common sense" policies as it leaves the EU.

He said: "We cannot be held back inside or outside the EU from taking the steps we need to develop and invest in cutting edge industries and local business stop the tide of privatisation and outsourcing, or from preventing employers being able to import cheap agency labour to undercut existing pay and conditions in the name of free market orthodoxy."*

Mr Corbyn also accused Theresa May of planning to "tie the UK permanently to EU rules, which are used to drive privatisation and block support for British industry".**

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/jeremy-corbyn/news/93495/jeremy-corbyn-brexit-will-stop-cheap


So comrade jo instead of doing your usual trick of avoiding awkward questions care to answer these ones below?

* you constantly say the eu is pro worker. Yet corbyn has said the eu is anti worker. So is corbyn lying? Did he make that statement just to get votes? Why does an 'international socialist' like you support free market economies?

** why does the 'true socialist alternative' say that eu rules drive privatisation? And why does an 'international socialist' like you support a corrupt eu which drives privatisation?
 Jo van
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Posted: 3/19/2018 9:52:15 AM

But his remarks drew criticism from SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon, who accused him of appropriating the language of former Ukip leader Nigel Farage.

Did she mean "racist"?




Any more evidence that YOUR Leader is sooooo pro-EU?
Ooooo she WANTS the "gulag" so bad.
Lovely.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 3/19/2018 10:41:21 AM
Fantastic. Yet so predictable. Once AGAIN you run away from awkward questions. No wonder it is hard to take your arguments (or lack off) seriously..............

"But his remarks drew criticism from SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon, who accused him of appropriating the language of former Ukip leader Nigel Farage.

Did she mean "racist"?"

Did she? And does his comment make him a racist? You never answered last time i asked you..........

"Any more evidence that YOUR Leader is sooooo pro-EU?
Ooooo she WANTS the "gulag" so bad.
Lovely."

MY leader? I'm not a member of the SNP. I lend them my vote. Aye she is pro gulag. And i think she is wrong. And when we become independent i shall then vote for an anti eu party.

So IS corbyn a racist then? Because i asked you the same question a few times but you must find the question to 'awkward'.

Go on. Let your balls drop and stop avoiding awkward questions. But saying that st jeremy of corbyn is very adept at avoiding 'awkward' questions.

Yous are well suited.
 vlad dracul
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Another cock up
Posted: 3/22/2018 12:54:25 AM
Oh dear. Building trade workers being robbed. AGAIN. How much waffle gets spouted by those democracy hating fools regarding 'workers rights?

Not only that but guess who voted against employment rights being devolved for the parliament here in Holyrood? Yes i give you Scottish labour..............

"Union fears over Waverley station project workers' rights

A union has warned that the company taking over from collapsed contractor Carillion at Edinburgh's Waverley station must respect workers' rights.

Unite said the new contractor must not use "umbrella companies", saying they "exploited" workers and calling the practice immoral "wage theft".

Umbrella firms process wages on behalf of companies who do not want to employ staff directly.

This can mean workers end up paying excessive administrative fees to get their wages as well as being liable for their employers' national insurance.

At First Minister's Questions last week, Scottish Labour leader Richard Leonard said using "umbrella companies", which could include employment agencies, allowed contractors to dodge tax, cut costs and exploit workers.

He claimed one worker for a railway electrification project at Shotts for Carillion had to pay up to £100 week to get paid his wages.

The first minister said it was "absolutely outrageous" and condemned "any company pursuing any practice of that nature".

However, she added that employment law was reserved to Westminster and the Scottish Labour Party had opposed it being devolved."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-43486106
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