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 Theydidnotfixit
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Today is another amazing day in the life and times of our country. Seemingly without any hope of getting her deal through parliament, Theresa has got her awful chancellor to pop out and scare us. Bank of England governor , Mark Carney is also out and about. Carney who looks like a right genuine paedophile, Says growth on one scenario, predictively the leaving the gulag one, might plunge 8% in 2019. Unemployment might go up to 7.5% and house prices might plunge by a third. She must be in deep trouble for him to go this overboard. 

U.K. growth did fall 7% in 2008 but that wasn't brexit. That was something that didn't get fixed. And it all still hangs over us brexit or no brexit. It's an objective fact that everything that caused these Schmucks' 2008 financial collapse is still in place only even more so. Our Denial of this, doesn't change its reality. 

QE..surely it's money counterfeiting. Well we were told by the remainers, not so , back in 2011. Gold their real enemy duly topped at $1800 dollars and made its way back down to $1050. ( I've been buying gold  for five years now and it's at $1220 at the moment. The remainers blamed capitalism and promised to save us from the command economy via the (FOMC) that they created. Their plan was to pop out and buy some assets (debt) and after the emergency was over they would sell those assets back into the market. Hence no monetizing of the debts. How is that going? Not very well.. just make your way towards the fire exit while there is no pandemonium. 

We have a world of central banks with their balance sheets bloated with these "assets" And their nominal or real interest rates at negative. That is a topsy turvy world of lenders paying borrowers to borrow. All sorts of dubious projects have been greenlighted. One of these central bankers this week described economics as more an art than a science. Yeah, surrealism.

Fed chair , Jerome Powell, a right nonce.. apparently, was at the economic club of new York today and while I haven't listened to or read his speech, Powell who is "trying" to counterfeit less money much to Trump's chagrin, seems to have thrown Trumper a bone by coming up with a form of words regarding the "neutral" fed funds rate. These people are cranks. Anyhow,  the Dow went up 500 points , it would appear the casino thinks the gambling can continue for another day. 

By the way for what it's worth the insolvent German proxy empire aka the e.u. aka the protectionist economic zone aka the hotel California,  you can check out anytime  but you can never leave,  is thought to have the potential for 10% ( yep as much as that) of the world's future growth. So 10% versus 90%. It's a no brainer, I don't want my house price to fall thirty percent ;)

Micro time ... u.s. corporate debt. GM and GE. General motors is now borrowing $3.8 dollars to lay off 14000 workers. They were bailed out ten years ago by Obama with a lot of taxpayers money. In the last four years they borrowed $14 billion to buy their own shares. Their share price surged 5.5% today on the "good" news of the layoffs, the share price is only 10 % down on four years ago. GE has borrowed $40 billion in recent years to spend on share buy backs to boost their share price , for a week or so, so they can pretend a little longer ,  they are down 58% this year..at $7.70. All this money borrowed for what ? ...it has to be paid back from profits...in theory ....

Gold is central bank insurance. 24 carat. protect yourself from them...
 Theydidnotfixit
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Posted: 12/2/2018 5:30:21 AM
GE or General Electric ..General motors , Tesla,  Netflix, Interserve, Norwegian airlines, Deutchebank, The European union , Theresa May,  The Dollar, Australia....They're all still with us...this Sunday.

U.S. ten year debt is at 2.99 %. People are seemingly still buying the dollar. And why not it's a lovely piece of paper with colourful inks on it and some pictures of all seeing eyes on pyramids and old people who are no longer with us. All backed up by an $800 billion dollar military, occupying nearly 150 countries on our planet. With the power, financially, through the swift payment system, to remove whomever they dislike from their insolvent financial system. 

Delia Smith was on the Marr show this morning. She's a remainer and I think I detected an unwillingness to accept the June 23rd  2016 vote. The multi-millionaire is worried about all the chaos after the thirty "calm" years we have all had. Delia , Theresa hasn't shown any inclination to leave in two and a half years, all we have had is an absurd article 50 process and an vacuous bun fight to confuse and reverse the vote. Delia, there is no chaos, it was a simple vote on our sovereignty and only our sovereignty, accept the vote and let us all move on to the issues. Tony Benn was right, the longer the attack on our democracy went on the harder the British people would find it to escape the confiscation of our democracy. Also correlation does not imply  causation, thanks. 

When my mum built her house in Ireland, I asked her why she spent so much money on the foundations. And she said, the house would be never be right if she hadn't.  Think on! simple minded, house building remainers. 

Elsewhere in China, the Uighur Muslims are being "re-educated" ( abused, tortured and murdered)  in internment camps. 

" Political power grows out of the barrel of the gun"...Mao   ..

"never let the gilded pen pushers of Brussels get there hands on our gun...exercise some bloody fortitude " ..Bonds....

Leaving aside the unfunded liabilities and the over one quadrillion dollars of reality distorting derivative contracts, we have globally, $ 247 trillion of outstanding debt in the world today. It won't be paid back, we haven't got the income or the prospect of the income to do so. 

This debt does matter. You are stone cold dead wrong if you think it doesn't and that it doesn't involve you. The only question left to ask is who will eat the loses from the future default.  

Billy Bonds's Question time  ...BBQT....

Are we going to be richer in the european union or outside billy?  Thanks billy, by the way I read all your collapse posts.....Sharon69...

Answer....

Sharon,  you have personally, a $247 trillion dollar debt that you won't pay back ...what do you think......
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Posted: 12/3/2018 2:06:11 AM
Looks like another referendum Billy.

I agree with you about loss of sovereignty but we handed that over to big business and the tax dodging spivs years ago. We can't export stuff that doesn't comply to some regulation or other. The banks are global but the debt is local. We don't own any ocar manufacturing anymore and Theresa ay is running scared of Nissan etc. we don't make a single van in this country anymore despite there being a need for millions of them delivering and taking back this weeks must have. And so on.
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Posted: 12/3/2018 5:00:17 AM
This is how much of a bollocks the markets are. Trump says something which may or may not be true. The Chinese are saing nothing but that means the price of car shares in America goes up as does the shares of European fluffy bean counter kits.

"Trump says China agreed to reduce tariffs on US car imports

Beijing will "reduce and remove" the 40% tariffs it places on US cars imported into China, US President Donald Trump has said.

China has declined to confirm President Trump's announcement, which he made on Twitter without providing details.

The move, if confirmed, would be welcomed by a car industry unsettled by the escalating US-China trade war.

President Trump and Xi Jinping have now agreed to a temporary truce in the bitter dispute.

Over dinner at the G20 summit, they agreed to not increase tariffs for 90 days to allow for talks.

Failure to strike a deal would have seen tariffs on $200bn worth of Chinese goods rise from 10% to 25% at the start of next year, and would have opened the way for tariffs on additional Chinese goods.

On Monday, China's foreign ministry said the presidents of China and the US had instructed their economic teams to "intensify talks" towards removing all tariffs following the G20 meeting, However, it did not say if that was a plan with specific goals or something that was merely desirable.

Asian markets rallied after news of the trade war truce. In China, Hong Kong's Hang Seng index climbed 2.5% and the Shanghai Composite index jumped 2.6%. Japan's Nikkei 225 index rose 1%.

The gains spread to Europe, with the UK's FTSE 100 index, the Cac 40 in France and Germany's Dax index all up by about 2%."
 Theydidnotfixit
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Posted: 12/3/2018 10:38:15 AM

Looks like another referendum Billy.


Bring it on ...not good for economic confidence though, more uncertainty, more time wasting, more democratic disrepute.  We should have left with a strut, no looking back..... not ape the euronuts. Bureaucrats do not create wealth, they destroy it.


I agree with you about loss of sovereignty but we handed that over to big business and the tax dodging spivs years ago. 


Not for me chap,  we vote in  those governments...I'm talking about surrendering our chance to vote for
"those"  governments because the fools have confused and frightened us. 

There is this saying ...that goes something like this..The stock market in the short term is a popularity contest. In the long term It's a weighing machine. I think that explains today's noise.

Worth mentioning that globally,  we circulate debt as money.

Jo and Pauline went too soon , I never confronted them enough about truth, logic and mathematics.There are graphs, all over the internet, put out by "august " globalist institutions like the st Louis Fed, IMF, BIS, etc...so this is not me being conspiratorial and they evidentally show global debt growing to the sky while a global income* proxy (*the ability to service obligations) like GDP stagnate at best..Greater and greater debt needed to economically  standstill at best.

The debt can't just be disappeared in a debt jubilee  for "money" will vanish. And poverty will ensue. The global authorities know this,  to accommodate this unprecedented debt they have manipulated interest rates, through QE, to zero. And derivatives have been used for over twenty years now to warp market reality. It's a ponzi. We are not getting out of this without,  globally, a collapse in living standards and in time a return to honest money not its can kicking substitutes. The walls continue to close in on these arses and sadly us.

In short, the state manipulates and distorts a natural economy to very negative  ends. Nearly impossible to see at the tine for the average debt serf, for they cover it with their legal tender money.  Any market distortions can always  be smoothed over with just a bit more credit or in the case of 2008 and since,  a lot more credit.

Shorter still our glorious global elite's only product that they bring to market is credit/debt. They create it from nothing. Everything else we do.

Their credit that weighs on our economy more each day,  slowly strangling it and impoverising us all.

Their credit has been crunching a little later....When the panic starts, they will "produce" more credit. This is their dilemma, credit now and stability,
for now at least or all out  collapse now. They're teasing us with collapse at the moment.

I wonder if Theresa or Jeremy fully understand their political existence.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 9:49:42 PM
We Demand The Peoples Vote.

Aye those are the same dafties wailing about a 'peoples vote' who never gave a toss about 'the people' before. Can any of yous recall the political elite and their tame lying press showing concern for 'the people' before?

Brexit. Remember when those 'the people' lovers called voters thick, ignorant, racist istismophobes? Oh how they mocked and sneered. 'The people' were idiots. Why have a referendum they sneered? We don't need a referendum they lectured.

Oh go on then. Have a referendum. 'The people' will do as they are told. As usual.

Except we never. We turned them over. NOW they show concern over 'the people'. They did not like the referendum and opposed it. Now they WANT a referendum and dislike those who oppose it.

But who exactly is throwing the mega cash into 'the peoples' vote? Certainly not 'the people'.............


"THE POSH PEOPLE'S VOTE The loaded, leftie elites are conspiring to steal Brexit from Brits – while pretending to represent ‘the people’

The People's Vote campaign group is funded by a circle of rich contacts who want to overturn the decision to leave.

It is an astonishing display of the power of a group that is a product of the manicured lawns of the nation’s public schools, the Establishment and London’s elite financial institutions.

Consummate networker Rudd, 57, is the son of late millionaire stock­broker Tony Rudd — who in 1988 was declared “totally unfit” to be a company director.

He studied at one of the country’s most exclusive public schools, Millfield, before going on to Oxford.

Meanwhile, Rudd has done eye-wateringly well out of Finsbury, selling an 80 per cent share in his firm for £40million in 2001 and earning £5.2million last year as its chairman.

It allows him to own a £23million pad in London’s posh Kensington, and a stately Grade I-listed Georgian pile near the village of Cuckington, Somerset.

Among those recording second referendum videos for him were tax-avoiding presenter Gary Lineker, Australian comedian Tim Minchin and actor Sir Patrick Stewart, who wants to apply for US citizenship.

There were also messages from Old Etonian actor Dominic West, St Paul’s School old boy historian Dan Snow and privately educated screenwriter Armando Iannucci.

Other key backers include Lord Adonis, Lord Kerr, Lord Wallace, former Labour Foreign Secretary David Miliband and former BT chairman Sir Michael Rake.

Rudd is also pals with Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt, Labour Europhile Peter Mandelson and ­former Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg, meaning he has influence in all the major political parties.

Rudd was even friendly enough with ex-Prime Minister Tony Blair to offer his son Euan work experience at Finsbury.

While pro-EU predecessor group Open Britain received donations of £736,500 last year, the People’s Vote group is not open about donors.

They only say that “around half” their funds came from “regular appeals to our support base” and the rest from “other sources”. But one of the big backers has been Superdry founder Julian Dunkerton, who chipped in £1million.

Separate from People’s Vote is another anti-Brexit group, Best For Britain, founded by businesswoman Gina Miller. It also wants a second referendum.

Billionaire investor George Soros, who made a fortune from Britain’s 1992 currency crisis, recently gave this group £500,000 and private equity investor Stephen Peel donated £100,000."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/7928520/leftie-elites-are-conspiring-to-steal-brexit/

Yep. Those tossers mentioned above are really in touch with 'the people'.
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Posted: 12/8/2018 1:34:44 AM
I don't own a spin dry jacket. ....thank God..
Or I would surely burn it right now.
The feminists were right.

I really enjoyed reading that vlad ...thank you ..

I hope the French really smash Paris up today...
I know, I know, but I can't stand Macron, he
looks like a weird Tom Cruise. They,
our lovely French friends, are in absolute emotional pain
for they directly elected a banker not a banker' s puppet but
the actual Counterfeiting parasite itself.
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Posted: 12/8/2018 2:32:44 AM
Bondsy
"I don't own a spin dry jacket. ....thank God..
Or I would surely burn it right now.
The feminists were right.

I really enjoyed reading that vlad ...thank you ..

I hope the French really smash Paris up today...
I know, I know, but I can't stand Macron, he
looks like a weird Tom Cruise. They,
our lovely French friends, are in absolute emotional pain
for they directly elected a banker not a banker' s puppet but
the actual Counterfeiting parasite itself."

Now if you had stayed in decent honest work as a spark then a yellow vest you would have.

You should go on off topic more. The Trump Derangement Syndrome TDS is brilliant. Trump is playing them like a fiddle.

On the democrats thread i posted an interesting piece from the grauniad. Even they seem to be seeing how unhinged the intolerant illiberal liberals are becoming.

Anyway. The article talks of their presidential election in 2020. Who will stand against trump?

The geezer then goes on to show the minefield that awaits the democrats. They are so fvcked up over identity politics that i can see a fight of london labour proportions.

Will it be a young/old man? Will he be black/white or latino? Will it be a woman? Will she be young/old? Will she be black/white or latino. Will they be hetrosexual/bisexual or gender fluid.

If the chosen candidate is white then surely that is white privilege? Will they be billionaire socialists or billionaire liberals?

It will be popcorn time.

I see irish tried to rubbish your post about approval ratings. Saying its in the 40's. For someone who gets negative coverage from the lying press, who drives intolerant illiberal liberals into unhinged TDS i think that's quite good.

As for france? With the odious merkel leaving i can't see the other entitled bint who is taking over doing much to stop the rise of the AfD.

Macron will get a nice cushy job when he gets thrown out. Marine le Pen is my choice. The whole french political establishment and lying press were against her and for macron.

How did that work out then frenchies?

I'm wondering if farage will get another political party going? He has basically brought down TWO tory governments.

As for ukip. I don't think having tommy robinson on board will affect them too much. The laddie has masses of support in englandshire. And the political elites and the lying press have a cheek talking about his previous convictions.

Done for a fraud lol. If that is the measure to go by he was only doing what mp's did.

And i have nothing but admiration for him when he steamed into the islamist poppy burners.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T_5cWwuqk5E
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Posted: 12/9/2018 3:50:55 AM
So here we are, a couple of days away from the 'will she or won't she' vote
and the shambles continues.........
Cameron wants to come back into politics 'because he's bored'
God help us - take up golf/shagging/embroidery - anything but politics.
'Is Paris Burning?'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rc6ICkU39A
The French would stampede out of the EU if they could (nice water cannon guys).
Interesting(ish) the number of posters who seem to be no longer here
(aside from me & Billy with name changes)
It's a quiet, cold Sunday morning here at the coast & I'm even more bored
with sitting in an empty shop than most people are with bloody Brexit......
(We don't do politics or religion as customer conversation, it can cause
bloodshed)........
Most of my mob don't care, apart from the fishing row, which is eternal......
more coffee, I think............

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Posted: 12/9/2018 4:33:59 PM
So no matter how many attended the Brexit Betrayal demo in londonistan the fact is BREXIT BETRAYAL has been in the lying press non stop. So job well done to what's left of ukip (the political party who brought down 'call me dave' camerons government and in doing so laid the foundations to bring down teresa the appeasers lot as well).

It has been a joy to watch as the liblabcon, the snp, plaid cymru, sinn fein et al have all joined forces to undermine a democratic vote by citizens. The grauniads comment is free section is in meltdown.

So apparently hospitals and schools are going to collapse, drug dealers will be selling paracetemol because there is not going to be any medicine. We are all going to starve because cheap exploitable labour eh i mean industrious workers who do the jobs lazy brits wont do will be deported.

Project fear 2.

But then along comes this geezer ashoka mody. A former director of the IMF none the less............

"Ignore the Brexit scare stories - they have no basis in sound economics

Officials are making up the menacing numbers because they believe that the UK should remain in the EU for non-economic reasons. British citizens should resolve the Brexit issue based on their values
.
The Bank of England’s prediction that civilisation will end with Brexitis merely an effort to outdo in shrillness similar analyses by the Treasury and the IMF.

All official agencies, trapped in an echo chamber, are competing to paint the grimmest picture of economic consequences of a British exit from the European Union. They are straining so hard because their projected costs of exit have no basis in economic theory or empirical findings.

“I don’t understand how you can get that kind of cost without making some big ad hoc assumptions,” tweeted Nobel laureate Paul Krugman.

When he uses the expression “big ad hoc assumptions”, he is saying the Bank is making up the numbers.

Mervyn King, who headed the Bank between 2003 and 2013, says he sadly “concurs” with Krugman’s assessment.

Krugman goes a step further: “I have worried in all this about motivated reasoning on the part of people who oppose Brexit for the best of reasons.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment/brexit-scare-stories-ashoka-mody-imf-bank-of-england-mervyn-king-economics-trade-a8670416.html


Project fear has also warned us ungrateful uneducated hordes that there will be traffic jams from dover all the way up to orkney. But then this geezer who is the chief executive of the uk major ports group has this to say...........


"The Chief Executive of the United Kingdom Major Ports Group has shot down claims of a six-month “logjam” at Britain’s ports in the event of a “No Deal” Brexit in flames.

Writing to the Telegraph newspaper “on behalf of the United Kingdom’s major port operators, responsible for handling 75 per cent of the country’s seaborne trade”,

Tim Morris was highly dismissive of headlines suggesting a clean break with the EU on World Trade Organization (WTO) terms — “No Deal” — would result in trade seizing up.

SIR – The impact of Brexit at Dover would not be common to the UK ports sector as a whole.

I write on behalf of the United Kingdom’s major port operators, responsible for handling 75 per cent of the country’s seaborne trade.

Dover, handling around 6 per cent of UK port volumes, faces a unique combination of Brexit risk factors that are not faced by most major UK ports.

These ports already have the capacity and infrastructure to handle large volumes of both EU and non-EU trade today without “logjam”.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2018/12/08/lettersthe-uks-ports-will-not-seize-no-deal-brexit-whatever/

But hey what would HE know?............

As for the frenchies kicking off because their citizens are struggling as well. So the odious little twat macron put the army on the streets. And for that i applaud him. Why?

Because of the image on the link below. Now maybe it has been photie shopped. But if it is real then someones head will be on the chopping block.

A lovely eu flag stuck to the side of an armoured personnel carrier.

Lovely jubbly


https://mobile.twitter.com/Adrian_Hilton/status/1071474594849148928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Posted: 12/10/2018 2:30:29 AM
That argument about having had the vote now get on with it is so lame. Theresa said the same a few weeks back conveniently forgetting that she did just that to try and get a larger majority. We frequently ask the electorate to vote again on something, they are called elections and let's face it, the SNP would like to have another vote on the same issue they've lost a couple of times now.

As for that sage Mervyn King, isn't that the bloke who didn't see the last crash coming?

Tt was rather interesting to hear what Michelle Obama said last week - paraphrasing - she said she's sat in on many meetings at all levels from the UN, the senate, large company boardrooms and actually most of the people there weren't all that clever! But the I think we knew that.
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Posted: 12/11/2018 12:31:52 PM
You can't fool me - it's the Brexit Hokey Cokey........
You puts yer country in
yer pulls yer country out
in out in out jerk it all about
you gets paid monthly
'n' you don't care
an thats wot it's all abaht..........

All together for the chorus...........

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Posted: 12/11/2018 12:45:13 PM
And the winner of this years TONY BLAIR AWARD FOR SINCERITY goes to...................


"It was the most important TV appearance of Emmanuel Macron’s presidency: the 40-year-old former banker had to prove to an angry nation that he was not an arrogant “president of the rich” and that he understood ordinary French people’s struggle to make ends meet.

Yet Macron’s choice to deliver his prerecorded speech on social inequality from one of the most opulent and golden rooms in the luxurious, 365-room Élysée Palace was not lost on gilets jaunes protesters who have been occupying protest barricades on rural roundabouts.

Indeed, the Élysée Palace, the French presidential residence and workplace that is twice the size of the US White House and costs €104m a year to run, has been the object of fury during the protests.

On the barricades, many have been critical of the Macrons for redecorating some rooms in the palace – including the main reception room where new carpets will cost €300,000 (£271,000).

Macron chose to announce his measures aimed at calming the gilets jaunes protests by speaking from the traditional presidential office known as the salon doré, with its gold decorations.

He sat behind the large antique desk that has been used by all presidents since Charles de Gaulle and is the most valuable piece of furniture in the gilded palace. At the edge of the frame was a golden****rel, the symbol of France, between golden lamps, and three carefully placed antique books. Behind him, just to the right of a pair of ornate gold leaf doors, were the French and European flags.

The 13-minute address had to prove the pro-business Macron understood the “real world” of protesters.

There had been outrage among gilets jaunes when an MP from Macron’s party, La République En Marche, was recently unable to state the minimum wage on TV or when a cabinet minister trying to show the gulf between the working poor and the political elite appeared to complain that Paris dinners cost “€200 without wine”.*

But a record 23 million people tuned in – about the same number as for the French football team’s winning World Cup final.

“He doesn’t live in the real world” is a common refrain on the barricades, where Macron is likened to a monarch.
It remains to be seen whether an appearance from a gilded room in an 18th-century palace will change people’s minds."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/11/macron-president-of-the-rich-speech-elysee-palace-gilets-jaunes

*is this the global elite version of 'let them eat cake'?
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Posted: 12/11/2018 7:25:54 PM
" President Micron, you don't want other countries to interfere in the affairs of France. And/or support the yellow vest protest rebels . 

Why did France support the jihadi head cutters in Syria? 

Please explain, president Micron ." 

Nicholas Nassim Taleb . 

560, 000 deaths in Syria, so far. ...

Europe the dictatorship that must centralize versus the nation states that want to more naturally practise democracy especially as economic inequality grows. 

Apparently Mandelson, Clegg, Major and the mass murderer Tony Blair are advising the dictatorship on how to reverse the UK. people's vote, a vote we had some two plus years ago. Seemingly we are to be offered just two choices, remain ie, dictatorship or May's effort, utter dictatorship.  

People are being terrorised daily. The UK is going to collapse out without a deal, we hear day in day out.  Let's be clear here, we don't need a deal, we need to leave. It should have happen by now but when you have a group of politicians trying to thwart the democratic will of the British people, it's hardly surprising. 

It was a two step process on June the 24th 2016.  1 Angela,  (Merkel) we are leaving. 2 we do need to keep any dislocations to a minimum.... that's it. 

The European union is perceived by nuts to be a  global colossus on how to run an economy. Not in my house. Frankly it's a king sized insolvent mess. Renewed recession is imminent and protectionism a given. Famously, they have monetary union which favours Germany but not Greece but no fiscal union which favours Germany if not the hapless Greeks. 

So we have an anti democratic pretend country trying to boss a multitude of diverse countries that are self interested. 

Italy who haven't grown since they adopted the euro are 5% smaller than they were ten years ago. Needless to say they have put a lot of day to day living expenses  on their credit card.They want to borrow more but their masters, the Germans, have said no. 


The debt laden French who are a tiny bit violent, at the moment, want to borrow more too..But there is no real money and so the yellow vests revolt. They were told by lofty central banking fools that they were booming. But have suddenly figured out it was utter e.u. Propaganda. Remainers wake up.


The eurozone economy's, QE ( stealing wealth) is due to end in early 2019. And interest rates are due to be raised from a minus 0.4% to a ...minus 0.2 % next Autumn. None of this risible stuff is going to happen for theiving is their economic basis and you do muse, that the continent that historically never stops warring, has even more violence in its future.
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Posted: 12/12/2018 12:50:24 AM
Meanwhile the biggest band of shysters are plotting to take over from May. quite why she wants to hang on i don't know, she's already qualified for the automatic PM's pension for life of £150,000 a year plus security and minsiterial car (for life to remind you). whay more does she think she can do.

Vote for Dave (that's me). A few of them would be hanging from the nearest lamp post come sun up.
 Theydidnotfixit
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Posted: 12/12/2018 7:28:11 AM
Well for me the biggest band of shysters are in Brussels. And I know this will appall all forumites
but I'm hoping they choose Jacob Rees Mogg. First he's actually British and second he's mannered but firm.

Remember, remaining is more Europe and less Britain until there is no Britain. Nice legs shame
about the treachery.
 OhHaiMarc
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Posted: 12/12/2018 10:14:09 AM
Well, at least I'm not appalled at the idea of Jacob, even if he's been playing number two for the longest time. On the other hand, he seems to be the only level-headed AND persistent man left involved.
 RoxyMoronic
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Posted: 12/14/2018 3:29:30 AM
Someone get that slimeball off my tv!
Did Twatty Blair infer knife crime and homelessness is a result of brexit?
Take your (estimated) 20 odd million and fvck right off mate.

I don’t align with any of them if I’m honest, they talk differently, act differently, live differently.
My local Green Party leader is a breath of fresh air.
Are people forced to change good politics for dishonest politics the further up the ladder they go?

G.O.A.L too :)
 Justanotherchap
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Posted: 12/15/2018 2:45:36 AM
Yep, his own specila lamp post reserved for Moggy.

"This week, two MPs - who had been suspended from the Conservative Party after they were accused of sexual misconduct - were reinstated. Just so they could vote to keep Theresa May as leader. "

That's the Tories for you.
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Posted: 12/18/2018 9:40:05 AM
'All UK citizens will be sent information about how to prepare for a no-deal Brexit, as the government dramatically ramps up its contingency planning.'
(Sky News)

Cor..........

Shades of Dig for Victory and Protect & Survive or wot?

Where's the bluddy Home Guard when you need them .......
....off to the beaches chaps.........

 Justanotherchap
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Posted: 12/19/2018 7:08:26 AM
Apparently Corbyn may or may not have called Treesa a stupid woman. which apparently is the most heinous crime in the world occupying the BBC headlines. Other than the fact that she is, I do feel the idea of mobilising 3500 troops to do something, chartering a plane to fly to Maastricht to pick up medical supplies at £30,000 a pop, that the government has just placed an order for zillions of fridges could actually be more important.

I went to see Peterloo last night at the flicks. Nothing much changes.

Goal!!! 2 in the same week. :101: My, the forum is busy!
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 12/21/2018 2:23:36 PM
Browsing through the news today and reading much wailing from democracy hating remainers about working folk kicking the elitist arseholes in balls i thought it was time to give this another airing...............


"LABOUR MP Diane Abbott yesterday defended herself against charges of racism after criticising the appointment of ``blonde, blue-eyed'' Finnish nurses at her local hospital.

The black MP suggested the nurses at Homerton Hospital, Hackney, might be unfit to work in the multicultural east London borough.

Writing in her local paper, the Hackney Gazette, the MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington said: ``I am sure that these young women are charming. But they are basically here to improve their English and are unlikely to give the British health service a lifetime's commitment.''

Her comments were seized upon by the hospital, nursing unions, and politicians, who accused her of avoiding the real issue of staff shortages.

Ms Abbott later said: ``The issue is not one of colour - the issue is that people should not be recruited from overseas in an area of mass unemployment.''

However, nursing unions and the hospital - which has written a letter of complaint to Ms Abbott -were annoyed that she had written of her surprise that the hospital had chosen ``blonde, blue-eyed girls from Finland, instead of nurses from the Caribbean who know the language and understand British culture and institutions''.

Ms Abbott had added: ``And are Finnish girls, who may never have met a black person before, let alone touched one, best suited to nurse in multicultural Hackney?''

Senior nurse Eileen Farragher said 20 Finnish nurses were expected in the new year to bolster the 30 nurses already at the hospital. They would be joined by eight to 10 nurses from South Africa, totalling about 4% of the nursing staff, she said. ``Her comments are very disappointing because she didn't seem in any way to understand the facts of the situation.''

She added that a nursing shortage had hit London harder than other areas and forced them to look abroad for help.

Representatives of the Royal College of Nursing have written to the Gazette and called on Ms Abbott to try to reverse the nursing crisis.

Tory MP Ian Bruce accused Ms Abbot of racism: ``It shows complete ignorance. She is using racial stereotypes which are wholly inappropriate,'' he said.

Sir Patrick Cormack, Tory chairman of the all-party Finland group, said: ``Finland has the most excellent health service, and very fine nurses, and I'm sure an authority employing them won't be employing inadequate people.''

Labour's John Spellar said the key point was that a decline in nursing training in the UK was forcing hospitals to recruit from elsewhere."

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12029702.abbott-denies-attack-on-nurses-was-racist/
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Posted: 12/22/2018 2:36:47 AM
That was from 1996!! Abbott hasn't got any more intelligent since though. The real problem with the lack of skills in all areas, not just nurses, is the slow dismantling of the technical sector, the reliance on immigrants as a cheap way of solving skill shortages, the lack of foresight by politicians who know the decisions they make will not come back to bite them! they'll be long gone.

BTW Corbyn has just said that if there is another general election and labour win it, Brexit will still happen.
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Posted: 12/30/2018 7:29:44 AM
"Patriotism is the exact opposite of  nationalism,  nationalism is treason"

"Nation states must give up sovereignty"

Orwell surely? And Adolf,  the second one..?? Nooo.... it's Emmanuel  and Angela. Yeah. Moderates Soderates.

Xi became a dictator last October and now Vlad is looking at ways to stay in power.

Something is in the air, can you guess what it is ?That's right the global economy. It's broken. Let's say it happened in 2007 and somehow here we all are in 2018 without a fix, and staring down the barrel of another crisis in early 2019, perhaps a crisis for the history books. 

Politicians, surely, are being informed by their handlers that something is up and that they may want to position themselves for what is about to happen in the years ahead. Perhaps on the old fake, left right continuum. 

We have all had a massive program of QE. That is, simply put, a massive redistribution of wealth to the rich. This theft took the form of pumping up asset prices for the rich and the poor getting what trickled down. Maybe a job on a zero hours contract at minimum wage. Or at least an east European doing that job While the native poor festered on universal state credit or whatever it's called in your advanced post industrial house of cards. 

What went along side this massive global exercise in monetary inflation was the amount of debt that China took on to stave off global catastrophe, without China where would we all be. 

Which makes it concerning that wee Xi (it rhymes) has battened down the hatches. And indeed vlad is flirting with good old honest dictatorship.  As we know our June  2016 lunge for the door has been blocked. In the words of the remainers or democracy deniers......racist filth,  you are not going to be allowed to crash out as you might hurt yourselves. 

So successful are our jailers, the "europeans". That over the course of this economic cycle, that's ending in two days with recession in Germany, they haven't managed to raise interest rates to zero. 

That's an unprecedented policy where you pay money to another fellow to borrow your cash. Nuts eh and they think we're thick.

They've also spent €2.6 trillion euros on a policy of QE too. That's €7,614 euros per person in the euro zone. Did the poor get that money? Not really. And before any one says correlation is not causation billy, let me tell you what Danny Blanchflower , ex bank of England, said regarding QE , "that the whole point was to raise prices. And I should know because I was there and I voted for it"

Ha, Ha, Ha,  the old redistribution price setting to the rich makes me laugh. It's been going on since the year dot.

So there you have it inflation is tax. And Taxes without representation is theft. Because that €2.6 trillion had to come from somewhere. And whose purchasing power was stolen.. why the worker.

And now the rich who have benefitted from this scheme are losing all this largesse as the house of cards begins to collapse by the hour with QT. Unless! We bail them out again with an even more unbelievable amount of purchasing power stolen from the workers. 

Come on they won't mind, bread and circuses. We can threaten these racist losers with starvation too....

When people really haven't got anything to lose...they lose it. Donald Trump, five star, yellow vests, brexit; is just a start. And big insolvent government will be waiting. In our best interests obviously. We wouldn't want to hurt ourselves.
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Posted: 12/30/2018 8:04:27 AM
Bondsy
"And indeed vlad is flirting with good old honest dictatorship."

Worry not bondsy. I shall be a good dictator. And i shall need a financial adviser..............


"They've also spent €2.6 trillion euros on a policy of QE too. That's €7,614 euros per person in the euro zone. Did the poor get that money? Not really. And before any one says correlation is not causation billy, let me tell you what Danny Blanchflower , ex bank of England, said regarding QE , "that the whole point was to raise prices. And I should know because I was there and I voted for it"

Now i went to danny blanchflowers testimonial at white heart lane when spurs played norn ireland. Pretty poor turnout.

But if I'd known he was going to the bank of englandshire i would not have paid at the gate...........

"So there you have it inflation is tax. And Taxes without representation is theft. Because that €2.6 trillion had to come from somewhere. And whose purchasing power was stolen.. why the worker."

I was just reading in the mail online that we give around £100 million in foreign aid to g7 countries such as shermanland and japan. Errrr why?.............

"Come on they won't mind, bread and circuses. We can threaten these losers with starvation too...."

Wait till you see the entertainment I'm going to put on when i become dictator. Chapster used to host events so there's two of you employed by the benevolent vladdie up here in Scotlandland..........

"When people really haven't got anything to lose...they lose it. Donald Trump, five star, yellow vests, brexit; is just a start. And big insolvent government will be waiting. In our best interests obviously. We wouldn't want to hurt ourselves."

Exactly. And posters over on off topic just cannot see that. Their TDS prevents them from seeing the underlying problem.

Oooo and as I'm being benevolent there is a pof scam supposedly run by pof over on off topic. Maybe chapsters devotchka is behind it all?

We got beat 1-0 at home by our city rivals the merricks yesterday. Mucho despondento last night. Much alcohol guzzled in despair.
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