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 backcreek7
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..... Men & Women should visit the bathroom of their birth ~ a woman to the womens bathroom, a man to the mens bathroom. I think both of our natural sexes, can handle whatever attire and appendages, they may lack or have gained since birth .

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 vlad dracul
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Posted: 7/24/2018 11:03:46 AM
This is a serious question here regarding identity politics. Identity politics have become a big political issue in western nations.

I remembered reading an article yonks ago where some university lecturers in america put forward the idea that peadophiles should in future be referred to as Minor Attracted Person(s).

I just wrote the idiotic idea of calling paedophiles by any other name as the utterings of some dafties. But..........


"Supporting Pedophiles And MAPs
In case you are unaware of the distinction between a pedophile and a MAP, a pedophile is someone with an attraction to prepubescent children, while a MAP is someone attracted to minors in general. MAP stands for Minor Attracted Person(s)."
https://www.csaprimaryprevention.org/supporting-pedophiles-maps.html


And this came up on a google search.............


"Patton Oswalt
@pattonoswalt
The angry "@" tweets from my hammer toed followers opened my eyes. "Pedo-phobe" shaming hurts us all. I am a PROUD pedophile!"

Now comes the identity politics. What are other posters views on this? Do yous think paedophiles have a valid point? Should their "identity' be recognised? Or is it an 'identity' too far? I'm sure at some point soon folk will be branded as peadophobics. Just as the paedophile has said on twatter.

We are told we must embrace folk with whichever 'identity' they want to be 'indentified' with. So why would paedophiles be exempt from this 'human right'?...........


"Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'

A paedophile has the 'same ingrained attraction that a heterosexual female may feel towards a male', psychologist says

Talking to The Independent in the wake of the research, one psychologist working said they should be treated as victims rather than offenders.

“It is a disease, it is a trait, it is not a choice.

Last year, a self-confessed paedophile, Todd Nickerson, a freelance graphic designer from Tennessee, caused uproar after writing an article asking people to be understanding of his "sexual orientation".

Called I'm a paedophile, you're the monsters, the piece explained how he believed his molestation as a child was the reason he is now sexually attracted to young girls. He also mentioned his membership of the "Virtuous Paedophiles" forum - an online community of paedohpiles who have vowed never to act on their sexual urges."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/paedophilia-sexual-orientation-straight-gay-criminal-psychologist-child-sex-abuse-a6965956.html
 chameleonf
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Posted: 7/24/2018 1:01:30 PM

Now comes the identity politics. What are other posters views on this? Do yous think paedophiles have a valid point? Should their "identity' be recognised? Or is it an 'identity' too far? I'm sure at some point soon folk will be branded as peadophobics. Just as the paedophile has said on twatter.



My view is that pedophiles do not have a valid point. Their identity should not be "recognized" as anything other than what it is; an adult with adult urges preying on those who are either unwilling participants or yet having matured brains, or both, who are either forced or manipulated to fulfill the desires and urges of the pedophile. The difference between pedophilia and homosexuality is one is abhorrent because of preying on young victims, while the other "may be" abbarent to the general public, but doesn't involve preying on victims and, rather, involves willing members of the same sex who have the same sexual preference.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 7/24/2018 2:22:34 PM
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"My view is that pedophiles do not have a valid point. Their identity should not be "recognized" as anything other than what it is; an adult with adult urges preying on those who are either unwilling participants or yet having matured brains, or both, who are either forced or manipulated to fulfill the desires and urges of the pedophile. The difference between pedophilia and homosexuality is one is abhorrent because of preying on young victims, while the other "may be" abbarent to the general public, but doesn't involve preying on victims and, rather, involves willing members of the same sex who have the same sexual preference."


With all due respect my post was about paedophiles and nothing to do with homosexuality. The way i see the links i put up are to do with one lot of child molestors who call themselves map's trying to distance themselves from another lot of child molestors known as paedophiles.

WATCHING children being sexually abused is the equivalent of actually sexually abusing bairns. And just because you give yourself a catchy name like map's makes no difference.

When the creeps watch a bairn being abused a child SOMEWHERE is being abused.

The article in the independent which i have used below again to me reads like the psychologist quoted is giving credence to paedophiles by saying they are ill...........


""Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'

A paedophile has the 'same ingrained attraction that a heterosexual female may feel towards a male', psychologist says

Talking to The Independent in the wake of the research, one psychologist working said they should be treated as victims rather than offenders.

“It is a disease, it is a trait, it is not a choice."


I remember in the late 70's early 80's there was a movement known as the paedophile information exchange. Any time they tried to hold a meeting they were battered stupid by members of the public.

London councils at the time were the loony left. This story below surfaced again a couple of years ago..........



"Yet at the time this book was published, in 1980, O’Carroll and the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) – a body founded to openly lobby for child sex – were part of NCCL, now Liberty, Britain’s foremost mainstream civil rights organisation.

In 1975, NCCL had granted PIE official “affiliate” status. It put O’Carroll on one of its working groups, it made him a platform speaker at an NCCL conference in spring 1977, and it strongly defended paedophiles against “hysterical and inaccurate” newspaper attacks.

There was, to be fair, internal opposition to this. According to the winter 1978 edition of Gay Left magazine, NCCL’s executive voted not to distribute the transcript of O’Carroll’s 1977 conference speech, a passionate attack on the punishment of sex offenders.

NCCL’s union affiliates were reluctant to accept PIE as a fraternal brother, and NCCL’s secretary, Patricia Hewitt, said “public hostility to paedophilia was such that it damaged the cause of gay rights for the gay movement to be associated with it”.

But such voices were a minority; for most of the Seventies and early Eighties, the “right” to sleep with children was one of the “civil liberties” that NCCL supported and the policy differences with PIE were ones only of degree.

PIE favoured lowering the age of sexual consent broadly to four (as they generously allowed, a baby below that would “lack the verbal skill to communicate its consent”).

The comparative moderates of NCCL backed a reduction merely to 10, so long as it could be demonstrated that consent “was genuinely given”.

NCCL vigorously opposed new cornerstone child abuse legislation. In a letter to the Home Office in April 1978, it argued fiercely that child pornography should not be banned as “indecent” unless it could be shown that the child depicted had been harmed. The NCCL official who wrote this letter was its legal officer, Harriet Harman.

Ms Harman is now, of course, deputy leader of the Labour Party*. She presumably no longer believes what she said in the Seventies – though she has never apologised for it. "

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/10653944/The-right-to-sleep-with-children-was-one-civil-liberty-that-NCCL-supported.html

*harman is not anymore.
 chameleonf
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Posted: 7/24/2018 3:24:59 PM
With all due respect, the main thrust of your post may have been about pedophiles, however, homosexuality is brought into the equation by the following:

""Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'

It's a given that being straight is sexual orientation between consenting adults, as is being gay, whether or not it gives others the heebie jeebies or not. Pedophelia, on the other hand is a non-consensual act perpetrated on individuals in much the same way that bestiality would be a non-consensual act, no matter if the perpetrators of either are sexually turned on by either watching or participating. Either way, there are unwilling/unwitting participants, which is the crux of the matter.
 vlad dracul
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Posted: 7/24/2018 4:12:29 PM
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"With all due respect, the main thrust of your post may have been about pedophiles, however, homosexuality is brought into the equation by the following:

""Paedophilia a 'sexual orientation - like being straight or gay'

It's a given that being straight is sexual orientation between consenting adults, as is being gay, whether or not it gives others the heebie jeebies or not. Pedophelia, on the other hand is a non-consensual act perpetrated on individuals in much the same way that bestiality would be a non-consensual act, no matter if the perpetrators of either are sexually turned on by either watching or participating. Either way, there are unwilling/unwitting participants, which is the crux of the matter."


Actually the whole post was about paedophiles. The point i am trying to make is one lot of padophiles are trying to distance themselves from another group of paedophiles.

The sexual orientation comparison was made by a psychologist.

But it is not only that one psychologist who claims paedophilia is a sexual orientation. The american psychiatric association declared it as a sexual orientation as well. Then backtracked..............


"Does Sexual Orientation Apply To Pedophilia?

The evidence seems to point most strongly towards yes. In addition to Dr. Blanchard’s information on the topic, we have an article detailing research from Dr. Cantor from December, 2013, which indicates the same.

The article about Dr. Cantor’s research quotes the founder of Virtuous Pedophiles, an online community of pedophiles who seek to support each other in staying safe around children.

https://medium.com/pedophiles-about-pedophilia/is-pedophilia-a-sexual-orientation-ff00ae24edf7



"Can someone fire the American Psychiatric Association? Or, better still, can it step down as the self-acclaimed expert on the subject of human behavior?

With mounting sexual assault scandals now being reported, has anyone thought to bring to account the APA for excusing pedophilia as a “mental disorder,” an act that not only attempts to excuse criminal behavior as a mental disorder, but also categorizes some instances of pedophilia as a “sexual orientation.”

The fact is that pedophilia must never be considered anything but a crime. Yet according to the APA’s Diagnostic Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), should a person not feel guilt or shame about their pedophilic impulses, then this ceases to be a “disorder” and becomes a pedophilic “sexual orientation.”[1]

After public outcry about pedophilia being designated as a sexual orientation, the APA released a statement that the phrase “sexual orientation” was used in error and that the correct terminology was “sexual interest,”[2] a term which still seeks to normalize a criminal offense.
https://www.cchrint.org/2017/12/21/american-psychiatric-association-pedophilia-adisordernotacrime/
 Doremi_Fasolatido
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Posted: 7/24/2018 6:42:33 PM
I really don't care for "smores". Marshmallows just taste like puffy sugar pillows to me. I also know a lot of folks who love "smores" but maybe not liking them is unpopular?
 cooldog65
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Posted: 7/24/2018 7:04:58 PM
^^^ Smores are okay, but marshmallows by themselves are highly overrated.
 MsMicki
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Posted: 7/24/2018 7:05:33 PM
Doremi...
I competely agree with you!!
So we will just have to be unpopular together!!
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Posted: 7/24/2018 7:47:12 PM
OK, I confess. My family knows I LOVE Peeps, so I receive them for Christmas in my stocking, and in my Easter basket, in different flavors. I save them and take them camping with us in the summer. A roasted Peep is sinfully delish!
 Doremi_Fasolatido
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Posted: 7/25/2018 4:00:12 AM
All beef hotdogs roasted on a stick over an open fire..... Till they have a black char over the outside..... I like that.
Although, many find it unpopular. It's one of my favorite campfire cuisine foods.
 MachIMustangII
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Posted: 7/25/2018 5:53:02 AM
What happens between consenting adults, is typically considered ok, but what happens to living things who cannot consent, whether animal experimentation or diddling children, is universally un-accepted.

as for s'mores and hotdogs on a pointy stick, I think the issue with dissing camping food, is all the memories attached. Burning anything over a camp fire returns us to our caveman ancestors. I may have liked marshmellows as a kid (but preferred chocolate chips straight from the bag), but if I want sweet stuff that sticks to my teeth, i'll take raisins.
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Posted: 7/25/2018 6:30:16 AM
Just something about ashes on your food that gives it that extra flavor!!

Bisquits rolled around the end of a stick....slowly cooked over the fire....then filled w/ butter and jelly was our camping treat that I will always remember....
 Doremi_Fasolatido
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Posted: 7/25/2018 7:34:35 AM
Ms. M….. ^^^ That sounds interesting to me. I just might give it a try as I am headed east next week for a camping trip. I have pie irons and wonder how that would work using those [the Rome sandwich cooker dealies]?

Always looking for something new to burn over the campfire even if it's unpopular, unhealthy and burnt to a crisp.
 MsMicki
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Posted: 7/25/2018 8:12:47 AM
I love the pie makers....never used a raw bisquit in one....might be worth trying!!
I like making pizza sandwiches over the fire in them and then a good ole cherry pie for dessert!!

We would just go out in the woods and get about a 1 inch round limb...
widdle back the bark about 6 inches down...
take the bisquit and kind of stretch it out longways...put over top of stick and then wrap it around...pinching to seal seams.
cook over low coals till all puffed up and golden brown...then it slides right off the stick!
Fill with butter...and either honey or jelly!!

lots of unpopular calories...but dayum...they be tasty!!
 daynadaze
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Posted: 7/25/2018 10:08:47 AM
I like marshmallows (and Peeps) my favorite was what my mother called Doollies, take a soda cracker, spread peanut butter over it and put a marshmallow on top, (or several mini ones) and quickly broil it in the oven. Hersey's is my favorite chocolate bar, I do not like dark chocolate. I like graham crackers, but I do not like 's'mores. Yuck

I don't like all beef hot dogs or baloney, even though beef is my favorite meat to eat. I like the hot dogs and baloney to be of the mix of left over meats variety.
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Posted: 7/26/2018 3:01:54 PM
Pizza sandwiches, oh my. Put that on some garlic bread and you have my attention.


I don't like when Hollywood does a re-make of a hoakey TV show I loved as a kid, and makes it into a comedy making fun (say Dukes of Hazard or Startsky and Hutch). The shows were aimed at a young crowd, but they tried to play it serious, so why not be more serious like when they re-made SWAT?

maybe they'll do Emergency from 1972

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3buQlW0Ums
 MsMicki
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Posted: 7/26/2018 4:17:06 PM
Oh my....I just caught an episode of Emergency a few weeks ago on some oddball channel.
I had the biggest crush on Gage back then!!

Has anyone seen the new Magnum PI show that just came out?
Wonder if he can fill Tom Sellecks shoes?
 daynadaze
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Posted: 7/26/2018 6:30:59 PM
LOL. Ah yes Gage, I was crazy about him too.
 cooldog65
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I don't like when Hollywood does a re-make of a hoakey TV show I loved as a kid, and makes it into a comedy making fun (say Dukes of Hazard or Startsky and Hutch). The shows were aimed at a young crowd, but they tried to play it serious, so why not be more serious like when they re-made SWAT?


Batman went the opposite direction and was more serious. Brady Bunch was a bit more corny than the TV series. Let's not even get started about 21 Jump Street. Atrocious!

One series I like that came from a movie is Lethal Weapon.



I had the biggest crush on Gage back then!!


My older sister (55) did, too. Also Captain Stanley was another favorite of hers. No love for DeSoto...
 kj521_
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Posted: 7/26/2018 7:02:18 PM
"With all due respect my post was about paedophiles and nothing to do with homosexuality. The way i see the links i put up are to do with one lot of child molestors who call themselves map's trying to distance themselves from another lot of child molestors known as paedophiles."



MAPs are just a "rebranding" of pedophile in an attempt to normalize. While technically you can call it an "orientation"....it is not a natural one, imo. :)
 calliopedreams
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Posted: 7/27/2018 7:20:02 AM

Talking to The Independent in the wake of the research, one psychologist working said they should be treated as victims rather than offenders.

“It is a disease, it is a trait, it is not a choice.

It may be a "disease," but we don't know what "causes" sexual orientation in the first place, so this is just a theory.


Last year, a self-confessed paedophile, Todd Nickerson, a freelance graphic designer from Tennessee, caused uproar after writing an article asking people to be understanding of his "sexual orientation".

Called I'm a paedophile, you're the monsters, the piece explained how he believed his molestation as a child was the reason he is now sexually attracted to young girls. He also mentioned his membership of the "Virtuous Paedophiles" forum - an online community of paedohpiles who have vowed never to act on their sexual urges."

IF this group's intent is to support abstinence from their urges to couple with a minor, it gets my vote. BUT, if it is just another platform for whining about being misunderstood, or exchanging pics and rationalizing that type of behavior, I think it's a waste of space. After all, Todd essentially blames his proclivity for young girls on the mental/emotional damage he suffered as the result of his own childhood sexual abuse. So, he recognizes it is not "normal."

We do not prosecute people for their "urges" or thoughts in the USA (at least, not yet), so any tool that can help prevent pedophiles from acting out and harming children should be supported. However, i do not condone organizations such as NAMBLA, for example, which attempts to rationalize Men perpetrating abuse on minor males. NAMBLA works to abolish age-of-consent laws criminalizing adult sexual involvement with minor boys. NAMBLA has been around for a looong time.

BTW, Canada was once a pedo capital of the world, as far as men traveling for sex with minors, until they changed their laws 10 years ago.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/low-age-of-consent-luring-pedophiles-to-canada-report-1.615382


Age of consent law in Canada refers to cultural and legal discussions in Canada regarding the age of consent, which was raised from 14 to 16 in May 2008 as part of the Tackling Violent Crime Act. This applies to all forms of sexual activity.


Age of consent reform in Canada - Wikipedia
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Posted: 7/27/2018 8:42:48 AM
^^^^^^^^^ WELCOME BACK KJ ~

^^^ The very mostest popular opinion ~ there could be !!!!!!!


^^^^^ I & many others ~ have missed you a super duper giganto & colossal amount !!!!!!!
* lyrics " she don't know how much I love her *

a song for you, sweet pertater ~ SHE DON'T KNOW by JJ Grey & Mofro ..

> turn it up ^
a bit louder please ~ it's for KJ
heart / sun
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Posted: 7/27/2018 8:43:05 AM
WELCOME BACK KJ ~ the very very mostest popular opinion there could be !!!!!!!

you are worth a " double post " & " triple post " & " quadarific post " > any ole doggone day, you lil' platipie !!!!

^^^^^ I & many others ~ have missed you a super duper giganto & colossal amount !!!!!!!

& like > woof !!!

heart kj / sun kj
 kj521_
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Posted: 7/27/2018 11:42:27 AM
Thank you, Mr. Backcreek. Great song!

And I do believe you, sir, may be a bigger flirt than I ! ;) ;)

But....I have a feeling...in the words of my good buddy, George...


...I ain't here for a long time
I'm here for a good time
So bring on some sunshine, to hell with the red wine
Pour me some moonshine
When I am gone put it in stone, he left nothing behind'
I ain't here for a long time
I'm here for a good time...


Luvs to you! :D
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