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 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 451
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I'm not sure what the furor is about.


If (or when) you realize the context in which that remark was made (the owner is a privileged white man....while the majority of the players are Black from the inner cities)... then you'll see what the "furor" is about!

IMO...he was lucky that the whole team didn't walk out after he made that remark
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 452
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 10/28/2017 8:55:58 PM
The Texans owner should have never apologized for his comment, it is a phrase that is used a lot and it is a phrase that is used REGARDLESS of a person's skin color. But he got pressured to apologize which is ridiculous.

Kaepernick probably is looked at as a person looking for a job that owners don't want to be a part of because of his baggage. It's their team and they have that right not to be interested. Seattle actually had him in for a tryout.
 cooldog65
Joined: 6/27/2011
Msg: 453
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Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 10/28/2017 9:00:41 PM
^^^ I remember the tryout during preseason. Boykin had his off the field issues and blew it as Wilson's backup.





Edit to below: We'll never know how good the current backup is since he only played in the preseason. With the shaky offensive line, Kaepernick is at least very mobile. An experienced backup is very important.
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 454
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Posted: 10/28/2017 9:02:39 PM
I think our backup is really good, and can be better than Russ. Are you saying we should have made Kaepernick the backup? I think one problematic player (Bennett) is enough. After Harbaugh was gone, Kaepernick's playing went downhill. He hasn't been consistent in his career. He looked good a few years ago.
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 455
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 10/28/2017 9:27:45 PM
Cooldog, as much as I think the Texans owner shouldn't have apologized, I also see the other side where owners are hypocritical in who they DO keep on their rosters. There are players that should be thrown out of the league, yet they maybe get fined over and over but still stay on the team. They are good at their position so they get a pass.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 456
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 10/29/2017 8:11:33 AM
Anyone who does not see the problem with what he said is in denial.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 457
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 10/29/2017 10:05:06 AM
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Anyone who does not see the problem with what he said


Umm...that would be mainly those on your side of the political fence....you know, the ones that aren't the bigots
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 458
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Posted: 10/29/2017 3:10:35 PM
Dee, what is the issue, is it likening football players to being criminals or that most are black and they're likening them to criminals, though that was just an expression? There's a lot of criminal activity among NFL players. With my Seattle Seahawks, I've seen a lot of activity. One guy is listed as having forcible sex with a woman. I think it should say rape! Then there's everyone else is getting high and driving. It's just dumb luck that they haven't killed anyone and could add murder on to those charges.

http://nflarrest.com/team/SEA/
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 459
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 10/29/2017 3:38:32 PM
So, people won't boycott the NFL because of the above stated criminal activity but they will suggest it for not standing during a song that has nothing to do with the game itself. Twisted!
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 460
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Posted: 10/29/2017 4:20:29 PM
You're right to an extent. But I think not standing got the attention from non-football watchers, where criminal activity like drunk driving doesn't make national news. That dog/killer abuser was hired after getting out of jail. Everyone said he did his time. I think his crime was so horrendous, he should never have been allowed to play again. If he committed those crimes against people, he would be in jail, never to see the light of day. I don't find it acceptable because he killed and tortured dogs and not people.

I wasn't following football at that time but did hear about it on the news, but they should have been more wide spread coverage on what he did, because he was part of dog fighting. I don't even understand that with so many people owning pets and how many men have dogs that watch football, how they would not say anything about this guy.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 461
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 10/29/2017 4:25:01 PM
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So, people won't boycott the NFL because of the above stated criminal activity but they will suggest it for not standing during a song that has nothing to do with the game itself. Twisted!


I was thinking the same thing.....they don't have any problem tuning in to watch a game by players who allegedly rape, get high and drive drunk..............but they get in a huff when some of them don't stand for the NA!

"Twisted".... is putting it way too mildly!
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 462
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 10/29/2017 4:30:09 PM
NYer

Your statement just emphasizes why the statement is a problem.

I couldn't have illustrated it more clearly than you have shown.

Even the man himself has apologized. Twice.

Sort of like saying "Don't let him Jew you down."

Just a saying, right?
 LLove2LaughToo
Joined: 10/25/2017
Msg: 463
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 10/29/2017 4:59:09 PM

Majority of Texans players kneel, link arms during national anthem after owner Bob McNair's 'inmates' comment

In a show of unity against the insensitive comments made by Texans owner Bob McNair, nearly every member of the team kneeled and linked arms during the national anthem prior to Sunday's game against the Seahawks.

Only 10 players stood, according to multiple reports.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/texans-players-respond-inmates-comments-kneel-anthem-article-1.3597752
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 464
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Posted: 10/29/2017 5:20:52 PM
Dee, You didn't say, is it about the rep football players have or because most are black? Maybe it should be more of an issue if I could see the problem. I don't look at it as a black thing, because I don't think that way.

I think nothing of him apologizing. All these people apologizing in sports, politics and other arenas, they're just worried about losing their jobs or revenue. I don't believe he meant his apology.
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 465
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 10/29/2017 6:14:38 PM
I hope the owner didn't feel apologetic when he said what he said but he was a coward and knowing the PC police(liberals) were out in full force, he collapsed under their pressure which is a shame. If you don't vote for a woman like corrupt hillary, you hate women(tell that to the millions of women who voted for this President). If you say something to a person of color that you disagree with, you are a racist. If a person of color speaks out against the liberals or speaks out against a person of color, they are a uncle tom. "woman card", "black card", the liberals have these down well while they are licking that participation trophy...right yule?

The NFL commissioner last week bragged how only a "couple" players protest, well if he stays with that lie after today, he will only watch his NFL to plummet further. Great job commish....YIKES!@!!!!!!

Dee, what the owner said was not and should not have been taken the way it was with the players.
 backcreek7
Joined: 12/2/2014
Msg: 466
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Posted: 10/29/2017 6:15:09 PM
..... WHEW !!!! finally made it to the un-popular opinion thread !!!!
wow, ok then ~
Hey, I love NFL football like most everyone else ~ and I know that awhile back , I said the kneeling didn't bother me so much. Well then, for sure - I mean ~ I totally understand their point, I didn't say I agreed with it ... but I'm not bothered, that they believe things ain't quite right & want to make a statement.
On the other hand, I'm super patriotic and believe it is not to much to ask the players to stand for the anthem . If they feel the need to protest, let them do it in their spare time.
...... With this being said, I think they should shut down the entire NFL .... All who do not stand, will be replaced by scab players ~ those who agree to stand, will remain.
...... Think what an interesting year, this might be ? col ... And ~ all the spinoff betting and stuff, it will be the time to get in ~ time to bet the f -in house, yip yip yippee ty hee !!!
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 467
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 10/29/2017 7:20:53 PM
#464 says


I don't look at it as a black thing, because I don't think that way.


Typical right wing mind-set
You are not Black.....so why the hell should you put yourself in their shoes


I don't believe he meant his apology.


I didn't either, which is why I think the whole team shoulda walked out on him....but lets see what other remarks he will say now that even more of his players took the knee for Sunday's game.

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#465 the drunken puppet says


he collapsed under their pressure which is a shame.


No, he collapsed because he put his foot in his mouth like the stupid Fk that he was.....without realizing that his remarks were gonna... A) cause a walk-out...or B) result in even MORE players taking the knee, on the next game (which is exactly what happened today)


what the owner said was not and should not have been taken the way it was with the players.


Typical trumptard mentality ^....that says: "I'm not Black, so why should I empathize with how they might feel"

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#466


With this being said, I think they should shut down the entire NFL .... All who do not stand, will be replaced by scab players ~ those who agree to stand, will remain.


let me clue you in on what the OFFICIAL NFL position is on this matter ...as enunciated by Roger Goodell

"the players are encouraged to stand for the NA...but will NOT be penalized if they do not stand"

Why, you ask?
Because Goodell is a lawyer, and like any good lawyer.....he knows what the player's rights are

Unlike McNair, Most of the owners are smart enough to keep their mouths shut; and not inflame the matter further.
But if as a fan, you are bothered by this so much...then you certainly have the right to change the channels on your TV
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 468
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 10/29/2017 7:29:15 PM
"Because Goodell is a lawyer, and like any good lawyer.....he knows what the player's rights are"

^^^^^^^ And you need to stop licking that participation trophy as that statement in itself shows you have no clue what you spew...YIKES!!!!! The owners CAN tell the players they will stand and they CAN discipline them. You need to stop playing participation trophy lawyer because we all see that you fail miserably......YIKES!!!!!

That "great" lawyer Goodell still hasn't had his contract extended yet....hmmmmmmm
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 469
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Posted: 10/29/2017 9:00:25 PM
This artice below will show you what Roger Goodell already knows....and what a babbling drunk like you doesn't know.

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/10/14/16473534/benching-nfl-players-taking-knee-illegal-labor-law


The owners CAN tell the players they will stand and they CAN discipline them.


man, you are as DUMB as a Fkn door-knob...if this ^ is the case then why didn't all the owners discipline all players who took the knee?


because we all see that you fail miserably......YIKES!!!!!


who is "we"?
You & Kj...2 of the biggest Trump fellators around!
You both better savor every drop of ejaculate coming outta Trump, because Mr. Mueller may not be giving you many more oportunities


That "great" lawyer Goodell still hasn't had his contract extended yet.


Goodell has been making $ 40 million a year....you think he gives a sh!t, if they don't renew his contract?
 N2U16
Joined: 9/25/2016
Msg: 470
It Rubs the Lotion On It's Skin
Posted: 10/29/2017 10:40:47 PM
Msg. 469
"https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/10/14/16473534/benching-nfl-players-taking-knee-illegal-labor-law"

Vox is as credible as CNN……… Fake News


” You & Kj...2 of the biggest Trump fellators around!
You both better savor every drop of ejaculate coming outta Trump, because Mr. Mueller may not be giving you many more opportunities “

Maybe it’s me, but it sounds like Yule probably has his Tighty-Whities around his ankles, lotion in hand, porn on the screen, and is Fantasizing about President Trump.

Get a Grip on Yourself
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 471
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Posted: 10/30/2017 12:58:26 AM
This could be true. There's that saying thou protest too much. I have a staunch Democrat friend that hates Trump, yet she told me she had a dream she was in bed with him.
 deetristate
Joined: 12/4/2014
Msg: 472
Do you truly tittilate yourselves by changing the title?
Posted: 10/30/2017 4:04:09 AM
the same reason that people use the phrase "don't jew me down."

you are smart, nyer. you know exactly what it means and the prejudices and assumptions required (as you made in your "does it mean black people or prisoners?) for it to occur to a person to think of in a given moment and use.

even white players were disturbed that they, players, were referred to as prisoners. again, you are smart. i know it.


I still can't get over grown ups being so upset that someone would kneel before ( not give a finger to or tear up or burn) a piece of cloth or a during a song that they want to end or destroy something they claim to enjoy.


sounds a little snowflaky.


this is as bad as people destroying a contract to help the people of puerto rico get power back, and delaying their recovery, out of Trump hatred.

focus on the big picture, let go of the hatred and not minutae, people.
 Yule_liquor
Joined: 12/7/2011
Msg: 473
It Rubs the Lotion On It's Skin
Posted: 10/30/2017 5:55:12 AM
@N2U



Vox is as credible as CNN……… Fake News


Yeah, because Trump says so.............and the only true source would be Fox news, right?
Keep swallowing Trump's semen



is Fantasizing about President Trump.


actually, the laughable fantasy is about how all you Trumptards.....have guzzled down all of Trump's "juice", without any question...........and do so without even realizing it.

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NY


yet she told me she had a dream she was in bed with him.


that was his Incubus trying to convert her.......but keep on worshiping his every word, and he might make an appearance in your dream as well
 cooldog65
Joined: 6/27/2011
Msg: 474
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Posted: 10/30/2017 6:54:26 AM

I have a staunch Democrat friend that hates Trump, yet she told me she had a dream she was in bed with him.


Did he grab her by the ****?
 John252817
Joined: 8/24/2016
Msg: 475
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Posted: 10/30/2017 8:16:07 AM
yule, you need to find a woman instead of licking that participation trophy....YIKES!!! Come on son, grow up and hopefully your parents will take away your computer for a while. And make you move out, it's way past time!! Discipline is a great thing! YIKES!!!
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