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 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 776
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If Canadians are so nice, why do they incarcerate too many black people?


OMFG, you actually typed that. ahahahaha OMFG.....let's just call out the old standby as it fits perfectly -
Newyorker58 - isn't that a bit of the pot calling the kettle black?

The US is one of the most racist countries in the world FFS. Where were you for the creation of BLM or the freedom marches or MLK or John Lewis and Grover Cleaver and Malcolm X. A country of slave owners - you****eads went to war over slavery FFS. And Canadians incarcerate too many black people. hahahahaha. You actually said that. Do you realize how stupid that makes you look?

We incarcerate too many Indigenous. I'll admit that.
Did you know that Nova Scotia and New Brunswick were on the tail end of the underground railroad transporting slaves to safety.

Your football players have to take a knee TODAY to bring awareness to the deaths of African Americans...and you hahahaha, it still cracks me up - you bring up Canadians and black people in jail. The US has been killing blacks since they first loaded them on ships from Africa...such a proud history....still killing them today.

Go back to the drawing board little girl and come up with something either of substance or intelligent.
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 777
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Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/28/2018 3:49:16 PM
I don't know anyone that says they're proud of their race, but they feel pride in their nationality. Although, I think underdogs take pride, which would be blacks, and for gender, women.

It's said Jewish people go into certain professions to make them valuable to society so they don't get exterminated again. Jews say they are the chosen people, so they have a certain pride about who they are.

To say everyone on this planet is the same would be wrong. We're all very different from each other, contrary to what the pc police say.
 Sandbyday
Joined: 7/25/2017
Msg: 778
Quick, let's talk about emails or benghazi
Posted: 5/28/2018 3:51:13 PM
Hey Fresno CA, way to show em how it's done on Memorial Day Weekend!!!!!

Before Clovis High played Buchanan Friday night for the Central Section softball championship, the announcer representing the section stated there wouldn't be a national anthem prior to the game.

Those in attendance at Fresno State's Margie Wright Diamond weren't having any of that.

Following a loud chorus of boos, the patriotic crowd stood up and began singing "The Star-Spangled Banner" a cappella.

Many removed their hats and placed their hands over their hearts. Others simply stood tall with pride.

Players stopped their pregame warmups to turn around and face the American flag that waved beyond the center-field wall.

When the song was over, the crowd burst into a round of applause.

The teams went on to play ball.

http://www.fresnobee.com/sports/high-school/article211991974.html
 Llove2LaughToo
Joined: 4/14/2018
Msg: 779
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 780
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Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/28/2018 3:53:19 PM
I don't know anyone that says they're proud of their race, but they feel pride in their nationality. Although, I think underdogs take pride, which would be blacks, and for gender, women.

It's said Jewish people go into certain professions to make them valuable to society so they don't get exterminated again. Jews say they are the chosen people, so they have a certain pride about who they are.

To say everyone on this planet is the same would be wrong. We're all very different from each other, contrary to what the pc police say.

Seagull, so why are you incarcerating a high number of blacks? I missed your explanation.
 Llove2LaughToo
Joined: 4/14/2018
Msg: 781
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/28/2018 3:55:26 PM

Msg: 777
OMFG, you actually typed that.


It's a red herring; she is losing the argument so she's diverting the attention from the original issue. She even changed the title to "emails and benghazi", and is deflecting to immates.

#VoteRepublicansOut2018
 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 782
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/28/2018 4:00:03 PM
***It's said Jewish people go into certain professions to make them valuable to society so they don't get exterminated again***

Huh? Say again? By the way, professional success did not save the Jews in germany.

""""Jews say they are the chosen people, so they have a certain pride about who they are."""

It's the Bible that says that, and it simply means the Jews accepted Gods commandments, not that they were favored by God. History seems to bear out that God has given the Jews no special favors.
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 783
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/28/2018 5:16:24 PM

Seagull, so why are you incarcerating a high number of blacks? I missed your explanation.


I'm not taking the bait, not from an idiot closed minded bigot that has nothing. WTF has this got to do with football players taking a knee? Nothing. You are like Trump when asked about Russia....oh, lets make it about football players OR what about riding a pornstar bareback while your wife is at home with a new baby.....oh, what about Hillary. Whataboutery. You can't look in the mirror without seeing ugly so you bash the guy next door for having a pimple.

You give me a reason for your YUGE race problem and I might be prepared to discuss ours. BLM didn't start in Canada, nor did the KKK or white supremacy or neo-nazis.


I don't know anyone that says they're proud of their race, but they feel pride in their nationality.


That's because you're white in America.
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 784
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Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/28/2018 5:34:35 PM
Tsk, tsk: https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/06/17/slavery-canada-history_n_16806804.html

 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 785
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/28/2018 6:05:37 PM

Tsk, tsk: https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/06/17/slavery-canada-history_n_16806804.html


Canada and Canadians are not even close to being as closed minded and racist/bigoted as Americans. We didn't need a MLK or a civil rights movement.

This site is not big enough to allow me to cite all the sources for slavery in the US of A.

Still a YUGE case of the pot calling the kettle black. And whataboutery.

Your white privilege shows and its glaring. And I find it odd that you have to go hunting for sources to back up your narrow minded views.
 ja6425
Joined: 1/16/2018
Msg: 786
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/28/2018 6:38:47 PM
"That bar is in the "gay" west village, where there are going to be democrats that say they want to be heard and respected, but naturally, they're not going to do the same. Classic democrat behavior."

^^^^^^^Why of course that is very true. Must be that white superiority, that white disrespect, that white liberal racism. Liberals are very good at deflecting.
 drinkthesunwithmyface
Joined: 3/27/2012
Msg: 787
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Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/28/2018 7:44:38 PM
Aprilikeswhiteroses:

They are paid to play not paid to protest

Can we say that they're paid to play not to stand for the anthem? Does the anthem, or standing for it, have anything to do with playing...which you say is what they're paid for?
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 788
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Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/29/2018 12:36:31 AM
^^^^if your job said before we start our day, we will all gather together to hear an inspirational message, you either accept your employers tradition or you don't take the job. What's so hard to understand about that. Your "employer" sets the conditions of the job, not the "employees". I have yet to hear anyone say that they can protest at their job about something that's not related to their job.
 Viper1j
Joined: 2/6/2015
Msg: 789
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/29/2018 4:14:31 AM

^^^^if your job said before we start our day, we will all gather together to hear an inspirational message, you either accept your employers tradition or you don't take the job. What's so hard to understand about that. Your "employer" sets the conditions of the job, not the "employees". I have yet to hear anyone say that they can protest at their job about something that's not related to their job.


Maybe you haven't been keeping up with current events, but there are several both federal and state statutes that outlaw indoctrination in the workplace.

If your CEO chooses to read two chapters of Mein Kampf every morning before work, and you are REQUIRED to attend, that is part of a "hostile work environment", and you can sue for it.
 flowersinthelake
Joined: 5/11/2018
Msg: 790
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Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/29/2018 4:47:04 AM

Really, how do you sit or kneel on the field during our anthem while the flag is on the field


I think the idea of protesting national tyranny escapes you.
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 791
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/29/2018 5:04:45 AM
"Racism" still exists everywhere: USA., (one of the worst") Canada, Britain, as I said in a previous post, "racism" was the basis for the "colonisation"/conquest of countries where the population looked different to the conquerors.

Most people still think it's a "valid" categorisation, and, as long as you don't discriminate, (or try not to)then the ascribing of "race" is "harmless".
Most people "self-ascribe" their own "race", because they feel they ought to.
-Often, this is based on erroneous family mythology, which only goes back a few generations.

If you count your own ancestors back, - 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great-grandparents, etc
-by the time you go back just 750 years, at 25 years per generation, you already have one billion ancestors each, in that generation.
The population of the earth only reached one billion, for the first time, around 1805. (Estimates, because there were no official records which were accurate.)

We all share ancestry.



The age of the human MRCA is unknown. It is necessarily younger than the age of both Y-MRCA and mt-MRCA, estimated at around 200,000 years, and it may be as recent as some 3,000 years ago.[2]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_recent_common_ancestor

Socio-economic factors, and cultural influences affect the "average intelligence" or educational achievement of groups.
Eg:
People who grow up in poverty have fewer opportunities, poorer health and nutrition, and tend to go to poorer schools.
In Asia, parents push their children much harder.
Similarly, "jews".
Similarly, - wealthy people.

"Racial" Stereotypes are as much of a myth as "horoscopes".
"Jews" are not a "race", it's a religion, just like the 10,000 odd other religions

- But neither (IMO) are any of the more-readily-accepted "races".

Such (erroneous) stereotypes are the basis for "racism".

As long as people think there's some "validity" in "race", and continue to self- ascribe their own, and others', based on their own "diagnosis, their "snap judgments", based purely on visible characteristics, then there will be dimwits, who insist that one "race" is "better" than another, and so there will be discrimination.

If you want to challenge "racism", IMO you have to challenge the entire "paradigm" of "race".
IMO., "race" is not a valid categorisation at all.

"You can't judge a book by its cover".
"Race" does exactly that.
Jmo
 Viper1j
Joined: 2/6/2015
Msg: 792
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Posted: 5/29/2018 5:15:06 AM
And now, you have to accept the sad fact that at least 87% of everything you just said flew right over their heads.

Those people just ain't that much fer fancy book learnin'... ;)
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 793
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/29/2018 7:51:46 AM

Maybe you haven't been keeping up with current events, but there are several both federal and state statutes that outlaw indoctrination in the workplace.

If your CEO chooses to read two chapters of Mein Kampf every morning before work, and you are REQUIRED to attend, that is part of a "hostile work environment", and you can sue for it.


Exactly. I believe Walmart was one that made all their employees pray and do the Rah Rah Ray Walmart cheer. I don't know about the US but in Canada you can't as an applicant for a job about race, gender, religion, age, marital status.


And now, you have to accept the sad fact that at least 87% of everything you just said flew right over their heads.

Those people just ain't that much fer fancy book learnin'... ;)


I know....it was one I read and I agree with most of it. I'm sure I'll pay for that.
 Whisky_River
Joined: 10/14/2017
Msg: 794
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/29/2018 8:11:08 AM
^^I don't understand why you grovel to Ghostata?
I know you two go back to the day of deleting anybody you didn't agree with on the boards...but what can he really do to you?
Remove you again? Is he your brother or something...weird to me.

As I said before...that is why these boards suck to an extent.
Fewer come back every time.

 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 795
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Posted: 5/29/2018 8:14:13 AM

^^I don't understand why you grovel to Ghostata?


Oh hang in there, lol ....the day isn't over and I'm sure I'll take a shyt kicking in another thread for another comment I made this morning that will surely cause trouble. Its like our weather - wait an hour and it will change.

And the removing was a tit for tat way back when. I learned to do that from being removed myself. It was juvenile when you look back on it. And it still goes on, I was removed 3 days after posting last time, last January.... I posted twice and was removed on a profile I had since September.
 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 796
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/29/2018 8:17:56 AM

I know....it was one I read and I agree with most of it. I'm sure I'll pay for that.


Its time to quit it....you can believe anything you want.... if you don't want to believe in Race . . don't do so....but you know what, regardless of the reasons....there are differences between groups. Maybe it is poverty vs. wealth in some circumstances...i.e. culture...maybe there is more to do with it than that. Maybe it is all a myth that blacks are physically faster and stronger than Caucasians.... we can just ignore track events and boxing and basketball if we choose....maybe it is a myth that certain peoples are more likely to suffer particular diseases than others, even when it comes to things like specific types of cancers. . the doctors and the scientists who study this could be wrong. Maybe the easy answer is that kids do better on IQ tests when they are pushed by their parents to read books and learn as opposed to pushing drugs and violence. I already know how much you admire Jovan....you have been telling me that for years... I really, really don't care....its just when you parrot his vile, offensive comments that I have a real problem.

If I go back only two generations, to my grandfather, half of my family comes from the Ukraine. Some of them still live there (we found them via the internet after 80 years of silence)...some moved to Israel....some moved to the United States....some even moved to Germany. My allegiance is still to the United States... my Identity that of an American (although since Trumpism, I am not nearly as proud of that fact as I might have been in the past). I am not ashamed to have an ego...you can choose to be without an ego if you want. In the end... we all are what we are based on the randomness of life and genetics and whose parents met whom when and when they had sex .... you don't have to feel good about anything you accomplished in life..... you are simply living out your destiny. Throw your ego away.... no skin off my nose.
 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 797
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/29/2018 8:20:59 AM
And I see Whiskey is at it again.... she has always been a hit, offend and run type of person. Do you really care what Whiskey has to say about anything Seagull..... She is now accusing you of groveling... I have not seen you grovel...in anything the exact opposite. She is just a woman with an opinion...... You don't have to defend yourself from her.....things are always weird to her the same way Trump is always hearing things. . . I've never particularly liked her...but she is harmless. If you don't read what she has to say, I promise you are missing absolutely nothing....if an original thought comes out of her head anywhere on this board...I've missed it. She complains about the board...but she is still here, year after year. She will be here until the end of the board I'm sure.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 798
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/29/2018 8:33:50 AM
It sure makes one wonder, long after none of us are here to argue about "race", what the prime reason for discrimination will be. With the ever increasing number of "interracial" relationships increasing year over year, colour won't have anything to do with those who maintain some sort of undeserved privilege strictly because of the colour of their white skin or other white features. Will it be caste systems within each religion, religion v. atheism, level of wealth, blue eyes over brown eyes, etc. Whatever it is that winds up being the major factor, it only serves to prove that those who crave a privileged status are those who are most lacking in self-esteem and the least deserving of esteem from others.

v It may well have been BECAUSE he was a black man, who just so happens to be intelligent, not to mention who he was running against. In other words, an overwhelming statement against racism.
 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 799
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/29/2018 8:41:29 AM

Will it be caste systems within each religion, religion v. atheism, level of wealth, blue eyes over brown eyes, etc.


The class, i.e. Caste system in the US is typically based on where you went to School, how much wealth you have accumulated, and your career. I don't believe race plays that much a part of the Caste system in the US...not nearly as much as others think it plays. If it did, Obama would never have been elected President. But he was elected...because voters did not see a Black man, they saw an intelligent, Harvard Educated Lawyer who also gave back to his community in a way Trump could never do.
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 800
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/29/2018 8:56:53 AM
ote]It sure makes one wonder, long after none of us are here to argue about "race", what the prime reason for discrimination will be. With the ever increasing number of "interracial" relationships increasing year over year, colour won't have anything to do with those who maintain some sort of undeserved privilege strictly because of the colour of their white skin or other white features. Will it be caste systems within each religion, religion v. atheism, level of wealth, blue eyes over brown eyes, etc. Whatever it is that winds up being the major factor, it only serves to prove that those who crave a privileged status are those who are most lacking in self-esteem and the least deserving of esteem from others.

v It may well have been BECAUSE he was a black man, who just so happens to be intelligent, not to mention who he was running against. In other words, an overwhelming statement against racism.

I agree completely. I keep saying we need to keep intermingling ...the quicker we all look the same, the better. Beige, medium to dark beige. No more "races" or religions...all the same. Look how many years the protestants fought with the catholics - Irish folks FFS, the same.

The "caste" system is alive and thriving in the US and Canada - both countries have an increase in "white pride" groups. The Trump types give voice to them, Canada is not immune. Look at the comments from folks on here about immigrants, refugees and asylum seekers.....the forums are not immune. Hell, Vlad seems just itching to get into a fight about Muslims. You can't mention anything on here without Ghostata thinking you're picking on Jews. And Jo Van stirs both pots and if you agree with one sentence he writes, suddenly you support him 100%...yet if I agree with one sentence Vlad says, no one accuses me of supporting him 100%. I have read blatant hate on here and I've read blatant "we are the perfect race" . Odd that.

We need a blending of all races. Make us all the same, this fighting will never/ever end.
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