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 NewYorker58
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Msg: 826
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Kj isn't dumb, but that's a thing to say when someone doesn't agree with you, and that's dumb.
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 827
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Posted: 5/30/2018 8:50:25 AM

Kj isn't dumb, but that's a thing to say when someone doesn't agree with you, and that's dumb.


No one said KJ WAS dumb. Not at all, she was NOT dumb. Far from dumb. You knew that if you had back and forth's personally. She was far from dumb. And Ghostata is correct, she could be kind and insightful. Her posting - she could be witty. But the majority of times she came across a a ditsy dumb blonde all flirty and light headed. Why? I have no idea. Maybe she didn't like to argue....like say Ghostata and Jo Van argue. That wasn't her style. I don't think she liked to argue or debate or debate heavily at all. I think she just wanted to "chat" and not make waves. But you knew she was a Republican and that's about it.
 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 828
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Posted: 5/30/2018 8:53:29 AM
Arrogant and inaccurate are two different things...sorry if you don't like what are objectively demonstrable facts. Ashkenazi Jews do in fact have some of the highest average Iqs in the world, and they are also leaders in science, medicine, the arts....and have a disproportionate number of Nobel prize winners based on their population. Obviously they are doing something right...even those who are very religious have been great scientists...which shatters Jovan's opinion that religion holds back science. Being Arrogant may not be a wonderful characteristic, but it is far better than being "cruel", and imho, a necessary attribute I have needed to be successful in my chosen career. I don't need to apologize for being not being humble. In fact, one of the most admired and respected athletes and men in history was the ever arrogant Muhammed Ali. If I was not "arrogant" I never would have taken on some of the tasks I have taken on in the past...and won.


I know you somehow think the Jewish one is far superior


You know that huh? Have I ever said that ANYWHERE? As far as I am concerned, if there is a God, he is the same God for all peoples regardless of what they believe. As for Judaism as a religion...it does not proselytise, it does not attempt to convert people, it does not threaten people with hell and damnation if they do not believe.....in fact, I'm not even sure there is a hell in Judaism. So as religions go... it seems pretty harmless to me.


KJ could be kind, yes...so are many others on here.


Actually, I disagree with that. There are other kind people on this board (I'm not talking about the dating site, haven't been there for ages)... but I would not say kindness is an overwhelming attribute of the people who dominate this board. And the people who are cruel are oftentimes the same people who are "leftists" and rail against what they claim are injustices in society. Regardless your mentor is not "kind" he is the definition of cruel...and when you are objectively wrong about circumcision, as proven by medicine, and still accuse hundreds of millions of wantonly "mutilating" their children in a "barbaric" act, I don't think that is kind at all. And you know what, KJ never would have said such a thing, or never would have used those words even if she did disagree with the use of circumcision. The only time I saw KJ get mean is when she was defending herself from some of the women who viciously went after her... the most disappointing person to me though was Joe. He was her friend, and because of her political opinions, he turned on her...but of course Mungo was also a cruel man on these boards.

You know, most good guys who are looking for women want women who are "kind". That is probably one of the the most, if not the most important attribute a woman can have on a dating site...and yet I see so much cruelty on these boards...even when I was on the dating site.... for example Motown was an incredibly cruel woman.......sarcastic and obnoxious to people seeking advice. I just don't get how blind some of you are. And in your case Seagul, dense..... it doesn't matter in the least at this point...but I gave you enough hints and criticism and you never backed down...you are still at it... so what did you gain from opining in such malicious terms your opinions about circumcision? I'm curious how adopting the cruelty and the cruel words of Jovan made you a better person, or endeared you to anybody here? Sure you can fight for your right to express your opinions...but there are ways to express an opinion so that you are not being offensive. I mean people can legitimately attack Israel...but look how Cotter/Elphaba did it day after day, year after year...Cruel to the nth degree. I don't get it....especially the cruel people here. Why does the Blonde Bimbo delete people like KJ other than the fact she is a very cruel person?

I've seen Hawk post his opinions over and over without being cruel in the least. And I have seen John attacked cruelly by some of the leftists on this board simply because of his being further right than they are. Many of you are no better than Trump...just as cruel and just as myopic imho.
 billybonds
Joined: 8/8/2014
Msg: 829
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Posted: 5/30/2018 9:02:42 AM
I thought kj was clever, glamourous and lovely.
Down with cruelty.

On topic; sometimes it's hard to kneel other times,
it's the standing that pains.
 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 830
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Posted: 5/30/2018 9:06:12 AM

I thought kj was clever, glamourous and lovely.
Down with cruelty.


Agreed....and that made her a target of many of the women here... go figure...but we all know that is how many women operate.
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 831
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Posted: 5/30/2018 9:08:54 AM
So many on the left are like seagull, name calling at people they don't know personally to make these kinds of statements and a reason why people may not want to join in on political topics......posted by seagull to me. Sounds like a person having a mental breakdown:



"I'm not taking the bait, not from an idiot closed minded bigot that has nothing. WTF has this got to do with football players taking a knee? Nothing. You are like Trump when asked about Russia....oh, lets make it about football players OR what about riding a pornstar bareback while your wife is at home with a new baby.....oh, what about Hillary. Whataboutery. You can't look in the mirror without seeing ugly so you bash the guy next door for having a pimple."
 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 832
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Posted: 5/30/2018 9:26:33 AM
Well New Yorker, based on our private emails, i think you are a fine person... whether we agree on politics or not. Take the hate on this board for what it is worth...nothing.... this isn't real life.
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 833
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Posted: 5/30/2018 9:27:46 AM
Newyorker
So many on the left are like seagull, name calling at people they don't know personally to make these kinds of statements and a reason why people may not want to join in on political topics......posted by seagull to me. Sounds like a person having a mental breakdown:




Me
"I'm not taking the bait, not from an idiot closed minded bigot that has nothing. WTF has this got to do with football players taking a knee? Nothing. You are like Trump when asked about Russia....oh, lets make it about football players OR what about riding a pornstar bareback while your wife is at home with a new baby.....oh, what about Hillary. Whataboutery. You can't look in the mirror without seeing ugly so you bash the guy next door for having a pimple."


I totally stand by what I said. You alt-right wing cvntservatives have an issue with seeing one thing while totally ignoring the other. You deflect. Just like you did now. I've read your stuff and find you a bigot, racist and closed minded....but that's JMO. I think a few more might agree. You and that POS SCROTUS bash a football player respectfully taking a knee to bring light to the fact do many African Americans are shot only to deflect from a lying SCOTUS who has sex with porn stars, has an investigation going on Russian interference to say nothing of tapes of hookers peeing on him. Defect. You deflect and you play "whataboutery".
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 834
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Posted: 5/30/2018 9:35:14 AM
In typical Trump fashion his tweet about the Roseanne racist remark was
Bob Iger of ABC called Valerie Jarrett to let her know that “ABC does not tolerate comments like those” made by Roseanne Barr. Gee, he never called President Donald J. Trump to apologize for the HORRIBLE statements made and said about me on ABC. Maybe I just didn’t get the call?
- Not about the topic of racism (which taking the knee is also about), but about himself. I suppose if he acknowledged the racist remark for what it is, it would be akin to acknowledging all the racist remarks he, himself, has made not just since he ran for and won his position, but the divisiveness regarding race he still actively promotes in the dishonest manner in which he does. There are deserved horrible statements about individuals and Trump is one who is ever so deserving. People who lavish undeserved praise on him fall into the same category. His statement once again proves he has no position being in the position he's in.

What is encouraging is that it seems people are slowly (too slowly) calling him and individuals like Roseanne out for their behaviour, rather than excusing it. In Trump's case it was excused as "he's rough around the edges and tells it like it is"...in Roseanne's case it was "she's rough around the edges and is a comedian". Now Trump is actively being described as a liar by those who would once state that he either "misspoke" or that others misinterpreted his meaning. Is it possible that the Me Too movement and the fallout is trickling down to making people more bravely call out racism more often when it happens, rather than making excuses for it??
 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 835
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Posted: 5/30/2018 9:39:14 AM

I totally stand by what I said. You alt-right wing cvntservatives have an issue with seeing one thing while totally ignoring the other. You deflect. Just like you did now. I've read your stuff and find you a bigot, racist and closed minded....but that's JMO. I think a few more might agree. You and that POS SCROTUS bash a football player respectfully taking a knee to bring light to the fact do many African Americans are shot only to deflect from a lying SCOTUS who has sex with porn stars, has an investigation going on Russian interference to say nothing of tapes of hookers peeing on him. Defect. You deflect and you play "whataboutery".


^^^did I mention act like you are very angry and like you have some sort of personal stake in what is going on in US politics? Its a fuking message board...NY has not personally attacked you at all....she is voicing political opinions.



cvntservatives
See what I mean?
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 836
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Posted: 5/30/2018 9:42:45 AM

Arrogant and inaccurate are two different things...sorry if you don't like what are objectively demonstrable facts. Ashkenazi Jews do in fact have some of the highest average Iqs in the world, and they are also leaders in science, medicine, the arts....and have a disproportionate number of Nobel prize winners based on their population. Obviously they are doing something right...even those who are very religious have been great scientists...which shatters Jovan's opinion that religion holds back science. Being Arrogant may not be a wonderful characteristic, but it is far better than being "cruel", and imho, a necessary attribute I have needed to be successful in my chosen career. I don't need to apologize for being not being humble. In fact, one of the most admired and respected athletes and men in history was the ever arrogant Muhammed Ali. If I was not "arrogant" I never would have taken on some of the tasks I have taken on in the past...and won.


Your post was arrogant. And you have a need to "win". Its a male thing. Its not a religion thing or age thing or race thing or ethnicity thing or education thing - its a male thing. Its a message board, a forum. Not life or death.


Actually, I disagree with that. There are other kind people on this board (I'm not talking about the dating site, haven't been there for ages)... but I would not say kindness is an overwhelming attribute of the people who dominate this board. And the people who are cruel are oftentimes the same people who are "leftists" and rail against what they claim are injustices in society. Regardless your mentor is not "kind" he is the definition of cruel...and when you are objectively wrong about circumcision, as proven by medicine, and still accuse hundreds of millions of wantonly "mutilating" their children in a "barbaric" act, I don't think that is kind at all. And you know what, KJ never would have said such a thing, or never would have used those words even if she did disagree with the use of circumcision. The only time I saw KJ get mean is when she was defending herself from some of the women who viciously went after her... the most disappointing person to me though was Joe. He was her friend, and because of her political opinions, he turned on her...but of course Mungo was also a cruel man on these boards.


I have no idea why you think Jo Van is a "mentor". Hardly. And there are kind people on here, here's a blast from the past - I had some back and forth conversations with Cotter, she's a very kind woman.....I disagreed totally with her political views. But I found her kind. Just like I found KJ kind and her posting not so great. Chameleon seems kind, as does Whiskey. I like Mungojo, he's kind. So was Irish. I haven't see either of these two in quite some time. I used to have some "kind" and nice back and forth conversations with Erik Summitt, speaking of blasts from the past - he was a huge Republican...who was kind.

As for my OPINION on circumcision - why the fck is your OPINION any better than mine or why is your OPINION right and mine is wrong. Who the fck are you? Did someone die and make you a sky wizard ? Opinion is just that - opinion. Opinions and azzholes, we all have one. I have an opinion. I have an opinion that differs from yours and it also differs from Jo Van's in that you agree with circumcision because you are Jewish...that's it. Jo Van insulted the Jewish faith in his ranting about circumcision. There's the difference.

I've seen Hawk post his opinions over and over without being cruel in the least. And I have seen John attacked cruelly by some of the leftists on this board simply because of his being further right than they are. Many of you are no better than Trump...just as cruel and just as myopic imho.


I've seen Hawk post his opinions over and over without being cruel in the least. And I have seen John attacked cruelly by some of the leftists on this board simply because of his being further right than they are. Many of you are no better than Trump...just as cruel and just as myopic imho.


I never read Hawk - walls of text. Too boring. He may be interesting as hell, I don't read anything he writes. I rarely read Vlad or Jo Van or AJ when he just copies and pastes, which he does often, as does April. I don't read them. And you can't handle anyone that has any hint of an opposing view on Israel.

Regarding "Many of you are no better than Trump....just as cruel and just as myopic imho". That is a bit of the pot calling the kettle black.
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 837
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Posted: 5/30/2018 9:44:33 AM

^^^did I mention act like you are very angry and like you have some sort of personal stake in what is going on in US politics? Its a fuking message board...NY has not personally attacked you at all....she is voicing political opinions.


You obviously haven't read her other comments to me or other Canadians posting on here. I don't just jump on someone for making one comment.
 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 838
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Posted: 5/30/2018 9:54:16 AM

Your post was arrogant. And you have a need to "win". Its a male thing. Its not a religion thing or age thing or race thing or ethnicity thing or education thing - its a male thing. Its a message board, a forum. Not life or death.


Again so fuking what? I don't have to be humble because you want me to be. I can be what I want.


I disagreed totally with her political views. But I found her kind


Not a chance...a "kind" women would not have repeatedly slandered Zionists, i.e. Jews the way she did.


As for my OPINION on circumcision - why the fck is your OPINION any better than mine or why is your OPINION right and mine is wrong. Who the fck are you? Did someone die and make you a sky wizard ? Opinion is just that - opinion. Opinions and azzholes, we all have one. I have an opinion. I have an opinion that differs from yours and it also differs from Jo Van's in that you agree with circumcision because you are Jewish...that's it. Jo Van insulted the Jewish faith in his ranting about circumcision. There's the difference.


I accept by now you are simply too dense to get it, but no...not all opinions are equal. Some opinions have no basis in fact...like yours regarding circumcision. You can have opinions about how to do heart surgery, but your opinion would be worthless to people who actually do heart surgery. Who the fuk am I? I am a guy who believes in valid evidence to support opinions...you reject evidence, I am also a guy who...when the evidence is not there, believe that people should voice their opinions in a respectful way...something you obviously have never learned to do.


I never read Hawk - walls of text. Too boring.


that's exactly what I mean about you... you haven't read his opinions..but they are boring...and you know this how if you haven't read them? And besides...why would you attack his opinions as "boring" what the fuk the point of being offensive in doing so? What do you gain by doing so? And by the way, I find Hawk's opinions very insightful. I don't agree with everything he says..but at least he has a basis for his opinions.


And you can't handle anyone that has any hint of an opposing view on Israel.

Regarding "Many of you are no better than Trump....just as cruel and just as myopic imho". That is a bit of the pot calling the kettle black.


I get it Seagull....now that we are not friends and I am giving you cold, hard opinions..well now you have to attack me. Hey attack away... believe me I am not going to lose any sleep over it. I suggest though that you read what I have posted with an open mind and maybe you will see there is a little truth in what I have posted, and who knows..maybe you will become a better person for it.
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 839
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Posted: 5/30/2018 9:55:54 AM

Take the hate on this board for what it is worth...nothing.... this isn't real life.


You should take your own advice.
-You've been hating on me consistently for about the last 4 days!
I think that may have been the first post without my name in it.
And your "debating style" consists only of ad hominem.
You're just like Trump; you think that if you repeat a lie often enough, it magically becomes true.
I'm not a "horrible person" Marilyn.
-And there are literally millions of other people who also agree with my views, they're not horrible either. (Although some may be, I can't vouch for them all....)

Kj is both a "racist", and a "cheerleader" for other "racists", like trump, that's why I don't like her.
That's also why HAWKING didn't like her, although he did also meet her.
Like most "racists", she's dumb as a stump. (Or a trump)

This whole "taking a knee" protest only became an issue because your "racist" president made it an issue.

That's the problem with "dog whistle racism"; it's only a figure of speech, -we can all actually hear it.
Only, the dimmest of "racists" think they're being "clever", and then they let something slip out....
-like Roseanne.
Or "maybe they shouldn't be in the country"......
Or "there are good people on both sides"...
Whoops.

"Race" will become more of a problem, the longer the cheeto messiah is president.
"Racists" are feeling emboldened by his endorsements.

The protests should be every day, outside the white-lies house, until he's gone.
Nothing will get better, while you've got a "racist" in charge.

I think he'll start a war with N Korea, just to deflect from his pending impeachment.
-When Mueller finally breaks his silence, with actual evidence and facts, no politician who opposes his impeachment will ever get elected again, the republicans must know that. If it's really bad, he might just get arrested.
I will definitely have a beer when that day happens.

Just my most humble opinion.
FYI. I like that me posting in your thread annoys you.
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 840
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Posted: 5/30/2018 9:58:17 AM

I get it Seagull....now that we are not friends and I am giving you cold, hard opinions..well now you have to attack me. Hey attack away... believe me I am not going to lose any sleep over it. I suggest though that you read what I have posted with an open mind and maybe you will see there is a little truth in what I have posted, and who knows..maybe you will become a better person for it.



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ahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahah

Or as Mungojo would say - "what a maroon"

Look in the mirror Ghostata and follow your own advice.
 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 841
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Posted: 5/30/2018 10:00:39 AM
^^^ yea well...now that you know how much I respect what you have to say....I guess you know what I think of your latest opinion/insult.

have a nice day :-)

 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 842
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Posted: 5/30/2018 3:47:17 PM
"But the majority of times, she came across a ditsy, dumb blonde all flirty and light headed. "

>>>there are "women of a certain age" who think this plays up their assets...or were taught that was true. Before Chump ran his third time for office, tho, there was something else about that poster that didn't come off right, and whoever called her "head cheerleader", I think best put into words what people couldn't quite put their finger on. Being passionate about subjects is fine if you can explain the facts that make you so passionate. Acting like you aren't smart enough to explain it, comes off like you aren't making rational decisions, just emotional ones. That you cheerlead for subjects you don't know enough about. Right or wrong, that kills respect people have for your stances. Notice how many women (cameleonf just being one) post here without playing the ditz and flirting with every boy who agrees with them. How many of them get the disrespect she did?

"I have seen John attacked cruelly by some of the leftists on this board simply b/c he's further to the right"

>>>subconsciously, its the childish way (Yikes!) he focuses on conspiracy theory and kept going back to Benghazi and other "scandals" the Republicans spent more time on than the Russia probe....and yet found far less than Mueller. It got old, and yet he kept up the childishness. If he had another schtick, he wouldn't have gotten so slammed. even parents who love their 5yr olds, get annoyed with repeated childishness. that's not to flame John, there are other posters who get treated like him--KKK, justinelle, etc. do they all share in common a singular, blind focus on one conspirital subject of victimization of their choice?

While the world talks about the Russia probe, John will raise some conspiracy about HRC emails, KKK will find some conspiracy about women castrating men, and Justinelle will focus on what America is doing wrong to some country. There's nothing wrong with expressing alternate views, but when a ton of people pull up evidence that you're off the deep end....its time to swim back. deflecting or flat-out ignoring everyone's attempt to save you from going off further into the deep end...does not endear :)

"sometimes it's hard to kneel"

>>>I have reached that "magical" age of maturity, when Snap, Crackle and Pop is no longer just a breakfast cereal

"other times, it's the standing that pains."

>>those damned hard surfaces.
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 843
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Posted: 5/30/2018 5:06:36 PM
[qutoe]Again so fuking what? I don't have to be humble because you want me to be. I can be what I want.

Yet I can't post an opinion....because my opinion is sorta kinda like Jo Van's opinion (minus the Jewish bashing). I don't have to change my opinion because you want me to. I can be what I want.

Odd that.


I accept by now you are simply too dense to get it, but no...not all opinions are equal. Some opinions have no basis in fact...like yours regarding circumcision. You can have opinions about how to do heart surgery, but your opinion would be worthless to people who actually do heart surgery. Who the fuk am I? I am a guy who believes in valid evidence to support opinions...you reject evidence, I am also a guy who...when the evidence is not there, believe that people should voice their opinions in a respectful way...something you obviously have never learned to do.


OMFG. What the hell has heart surgery got to do with this. And you are no friggin expert on circumcision. You did a google search. So did I. In fact, Jo Van posted from Psychology Today about circumcision and you couldn't be bothered to take that as an "opinion" piece from the internet because your "opinion" piece from the internet is apparently superior. I haven't rejected any evidence. I simply said - wait and let the child decide when they an adult. How much of a fcking cement head do you have Ghostata that you can't fathom that opinion. And I respectfully expressed my opinion many times .....until I was bashed by you - who the fck are you?


that's exactly what I mean about you... you haven't read his opinions..but they are boring...and you know this how if you haven't read them? And besides...why would you attack his opinions as "boring" what the fuk the point of being offensive in doing so? What do you gain by doing so? And by the way, I find Hawk's opinions very insightful. I don't agree with everything he says..but at least he has a basis for his opinions.


Now you're telling me who's post I have to read. Again, who the fck are you? I read who I choose to read. I never used to read Jo Van's stuff until you made such an immature fuss about him and made it all about you. Now I read half of what he writes. I don't read Norwegian guy's stuff either or all the copy and paste bullshyt from April or AJ - there is no law against not reading someone's posts.


I get it Seagull....now that we are not friends and I am giving you cold, hard opinions..well now you have to attack me. Hey attack away... believe me I am not going to lose any sleep over it. I suggest though that you read what I have posted with an open mind and maybe you will see there is a little truth in what I have posted, and who knows..maybe you will become a better person for it.


Uh, how long have we known each other? Longer than you and KJ. A long time. BTW, you attacked me. I disagreed with a simple thing like circumcision. I didn't bash you for being circumcised, I didn't bash the Jewish religion for circumcising, I didn't bash your uncle, brother, mother, wife....nothing. I have an opinion on circumcision. Simple as that. The thing is - you attacked me not so much on my opinion of circumcision as I'm sure you've had this debate many times over the years, as have I....you attacked because of what you perceived as me supporting Jo Van...nothing more. My opinion on circumcision was moot once you perceived me to support Jo Van.

You were wrong. I don't "support" Jo Van anymore/any less than anyone else I see posting on this thread - with the exception of you. We have a history, we go way back. We exchange Christmas wishes/did you survive the hurricane....life stuff. You threw this away over something you saw that wasn't there - support for Jo Van.

I am allowed an opinion.

How high school.
 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 844
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Posted: 5/31/2018 6:48:20 AM
I don't recall ever speaking with anybody about circumcision if you want to know the truth. Who thinks about circumcision? The article cited by Jovan was authored by a nun medical professional before the release of the study by the the Pediatric professionals. Apparently, ot is much more difficult to circumcise an adult than a baby. But all of that is irrelevant seagull. Words really do matter and how you use those words matter. Jovan uses words to mock and belittle people, that's because Jovan has contaminated this Earth since the day of his birth. If you are going to agree with that man and adapt his words then you have the right to do so. But you really should not be surprised about the consequences. And I am surprised you still don't seem to get this, what you did and how offensive your own words were and are to the undersigned and possibly other normal people.
 Whisky_River
Joined: 10/14/2017
Msg: 845
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Posted: 5/31/2018 7:25:02 AM

Jovan uses words to mock and belittle people,




And I see Whiskey is at it again.... she has always been a hit, offend and run type of person. Do you really care what Whiskey has to say about anything Seagull..... She is now accusing you of groveling... I have not seen you grovel...in anything the exact opposite. She is just a woman with an opinion...... You don't have to defend yourself from her.....things are always weird to her the same way Trump is always hearing things. . . I've never particularly liked her...but she is harmless. If you don't read what she has to say, I promise you are missing absolutely nothing....if an original thought comes out of her head anywhere on this board...I've missed it. She complains about the board...but she is still here, year after year. She will be here until the end of the board I'm sure.

Hypocrisy much...?? Weird....

I avoid confrontations with you because I consider you unstable...just like Ben was.
No need to defend yourself...it's my take on your rants when someone doesn't agree with you.
I don't complain about the board at all...and I might be here for years...like you and others.
I've been here through a relationship and now the start of another.
But.....It doesn't define "me"...what strangers think of me doesn't matter.
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 846
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/31/2018 7:26:44 AM
What I can get is how juvenile and immature you have been through this discussion regarding circumcision. I picked up on the circumcision comment and made reference to it - I was merely commenting on circumcision. You went all wacko and made it about - I agree with Jo Van, I am now against Jews, I am now against you, I am now in collusion with Jo Van, I now want to go out with Jo Van, I am no where near as perfect as KJ, I now agree with everything Jo Van says...blah, blah, blah.

I agreed with one thing - IMHO, circumcision is a barbaric and unnecessary practice akin to genital mutilation. If you believe a child should be circumcised, at least let the child make that decision at 18. How fcking simple is that?


And I am surprised you still don't seem to get this, what you did and how offensive your own words were and are to the undersigned and possibly other normal people.


Oh my. You can say that? YOU can say that? Maybe look in the mirror and then slowly look around you at what you do, what you have, what you own, your life.....all of it, ALL of it. ALL of it. Now, tell me - why are you here arguing with people like Jo Van?
 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 847
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/31/2018 7:54:50 AM
""""What I can get is how juvenile and immature you have been through this discussion regarding circumcision"""

I think I'm going to have to let you have the last word. You simply refuse to concede any fault and refuse to consider the merits of what I'm saying. I know you don't agree with Jovan except when you do. And the truth is, it is very easy to agree with jovan....he takes highly complex subjects and pretends they are simple issues....much like his ranting about circumcision...which you agree with.

Nothing is simple seagull. Even the issue of whether to circumcise your children or not is subject to various medical considerations. To distill it down to calling circumcision is mutilation and barbaric is not only offensive but is stupid. Even the issue of trump is a complex one. To dislike people simply because they are Trump supporters is a simpletons way of seeing things, much like How cotter and Jovan see israel.

Whiskey, not surprised to see you calling us unstable. That type of insult is very typical for you but for what it's worth I don't believe Ben was unstable, there is no evidence of that, I believe he was simply a royal a hole and a cruel man. Now if you had told me hopeless nut case was unstable, I would agree wholeheartedly. Now if you called me an a hole, that would be a more rational insult. Just saying. You need to learn how to use your words better also.
 47Seagulls
Joined: 3/16/2018
Msg: 848
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/31/2018 8:20:03 AM

""""What I can get is how juvenile and immature you have been through this discussion regarding circumcision"""

I think I'm going to have to let you have the last word. You simply refuse to concede any fault and refuse to consider the merits of what I'm saying. I know you don't agree with Jovan except when you do. And the truth is, it is very easy to agree with jovan....he takes highly complex subjects and pretends they are simple issues....much like his ranting about circumcision...which you agree with.


Let me clarify and rephrase that quoted sentence - "What I can't get is how juvenile and immature you have been through all of this discussion".

We are all entitled to our opinions.

You have an overwhelming need to be "right" and to be told you are "right". You argue to be "right". And you bully to be "right". I felt bullied by you. I felt you were bullying me into changing my opinion and agreeing with you simply because you wanted to appear "right" about something Jo Van posted plus the fact that I should agree with you because we "know" each other. I got my back up, dug in my heels and said - no, you're not right - you have an OPINION, just like me.

I don't dislike Trump supporters, those that circumcise or those that have faith simply based on their views.

BTW, Jo Van posts shyt just to twist your boxer shorts and it works. He wins everytime he does that.
 ghostata
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 849
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/31/2018 8:39:00 AM
I'll take your juvenile insult with the grain of salt it deserves.
We are all entitled to our opinions.
. Why do you keep saying that. Of course we are all entitled to our "opinions". Freedom of thought can not be challenged. But just because you have an opinion does not make it rational, does not make it meritorious, does not mean it is supported by either evidence, facts or logic, and if expressed in an offensive manner can result in others holding it against you. Dee had an opinion that Gay was a mental illness. Jovan has an opinion that believers are mentally ill. Neither of these two opinions are rational....but they are entitled to have them, and others are entitled to have contempt for them. You readily have acknowledged contempt for Dee (I believe you have), and Jovan is every bit as irrational as Dee, his opinions just as meritless, and yet for some reason you respect the guy. I just don't get it.


BTW, Jo Van posts shyt just to twist your boxer shorts and it works. He wins everytime he does that.


You want another honest opinion of mine.... I think you are so intimidated by me that you say sh^t like this above because saying something so illogical is the only way you know how to fight back. Jo Van doesn't give a damn about me...he posts shit because he is a supreme ahole, because he is delusional in his thought processes and because he thinks, much like Trump thinks, that only the way see things have merit. Jovan is absolutely incapable of seeing two sides of anything.... if Trump is mentally ill... so is Jovan if you want to know how I really see him.


You have an overwhelming need to be "right" and to be told you are "right". You argue to be "right". And you bully to be "right".
. LOL...only when money is involved sweetheart...but I will admit that I typically think I am right about my opinions.


I felt bullied by you. I felt you were bullying me into changing my opinion and agreeing with you simply because you wanted to appear "right" about something Jo Van posted plus the fact that I should agree with you because we "know" each other. I got my back up, dug in my heels and said - no, you're not right - you have an OPINION, just like me.


You know you were doing pretty well....you apologized and then you were attacked by a few here who accused you of allowing yourself to be bullied by me, indeed of grovelling before me....I think it was Whiskey who attacked you (shes been doing that for years... I believe we have even discussed her in the past if memory serves me right...we used to laugh when she was deleted) and maybe Looney. So of course you were manipulated into believing that I somehow forced you to apologize and the you went on the attack again. Again sweetheart...you apologized because you were in the wrong and you knew you were in the wrong...and then you let some anonymous posters here convince you otherwise.... that is really, really sad.
 from site to sight
Joined: 11/30/2007
Msg: 850
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 5/31/2018 8:52:48 AM

ghostata:
Jovan uses words to mock and belittle people, that's because Jovan has contaminated this Earth since the day of his birth.


Who is mocking and belittling who? You have become totally obsessed with Jovan. The majority of your posts are about the hatred you have for Jovan, and constant insults because he doesn't share the same opinions that you have. There's no doubt you are in desperate need of therapy, because of your inability to handle people who have different points of view that are not the same as yours, and always feel the need to attack non-stop. How does a poster's viewpoint affect you in your day-to-day life?
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