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 I_Am_Con_S_Tip_ated
Joined: 4/4/2018
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If I think that the NFL owners and players have gotten too big for their britches, I can not watch them anymore. Withdraw my financial support so to speak. Go watch non NFL games or take up another interest.

Others can do the same.
 SS4544Spd
Joined: 8/31/2016
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Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 8/24/2018 9:07:33 AM
NY 58 wrote:
Across, SS45, I'm not racist, but I see so many democrats that are,
Note that I haven't called you a racist. And I don't think you are. Naive maybe. I am exasperated at Democrats for that very reason, calling anyone that disagrees with them...RACIST!!!. But you give them ample ammunition, with things like this:


Black people are free to go back to Africa if they find living in the U.S. is too difficult for them.
I used to hear that all the time growing up in the South. I will give you a pass on this one, because I don't think you realize how offensive this statement is.

I will say still, that you are probably not a racist, but I just think sometimes you don't really think before you write something.


Many people immigrate to the US with NOTHING! They get jobs, and some open businesses, and some do it without even speaking English or speaking little English. If you're American born, you can certainly do as well or better than non-English speaking immigrants. You have to want to.
Ultimately, if you can't make the distinction between immigrants who WANT to come here, or our mothers who saved and invested to success VS. descendents of immigrants whose version of the "American Dream" was to be chained and whipped for a coupla hunnert years, then kicked around for another hunnert, then there is nothing further we can really discuss here.

But I suspect you don't see these things because you, like most conservatives, NEED to maintain this position so you can cast blame for their plight on policies of Democrats. Whatever. I'm so past arguing that divide.


You're not a racist?
I am proud of the fact that I've been called "racist" from both sides here. To me, that is about where I want it. They cancel each other out. Someone here even called me a "latent" racist, whtever TF that is, which gave me a chuckle.


Having wealth, or being born into it, that's a crime?
I have a dim view of billionaires, period. ONLY because they need to stay TF out of our politics, and pay their f*cking taxes. Whether it's the NFL owners, David Koch, Jeff Bezos, or George Soros. They have too much power and control. They dictate our politics. Anyone who believes that ANYTHING passes in Congress, that they they don't first approve is naive. This faction, just like government, needs to be watched and challenged at every opportunity. But since conservatives love to be bent over and scr*wed by billionaires, that is difficult

In the end here, you are wrong NY58. But I do agree with you on some other unrelated things, so it's not a reason to throw a hissy fit here, we will just agree to disagree. I will always be on the side of the players in this spat. I am generally always on the side of those who I feel are being unfairly treated just so some "Masters of the Universe" entity can gain further power and wealth. And that entity can be Wall Street, big corporate, big government, billionaires, or whatever. I will always admire a Che Guevara, or Colin Kaepernick, who sacrifice everything for a selfless cause vs. some old, crusty out of touch billionaire who's only aim is to attain more f*cking money for himself. People in the U.S. have just been so brainwashed that these entities are the "good guys" and have everyone's best interest at heart, when they most definitely DON'T - unless it's something they can, again further increase their wealth and power on.

And the lambs continue not only to be led, but walk themselves to the slaughter.


You're nuts!
That may be the first thing we can agree on here.
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
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Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 8/24/2018 10:07:49 AM
Someone has roots in another country, as we all do, but they say they're unhappy here, to them I say consider moving back to your country of origin, doesn't matter where they came from. People come here for work to make money with the intention of moving back to their homeland. It's not a sin to suggest that people do that.

I'm first generation American and very aware of all the immigrants that came here with nothing, like my father, speaking broken English, and also feeling prejudice. If you're born here, there's no excuse for not succeeding. You do know that black people don't want to be seen as downtrodden? It's an insult.

Life in the U.S. is great, even though there are "isms", racism, ageism, sexism, etc. The US is the land of opportunity. Those opportunities are there for the taking, not for the complainers and slackers. I wasn't raised to lay down because there are challenges in life. Blacks folks are doing great. I don't know where you live, but places I've lived, that's what I see. Black people with great jobs, children, houses, etc, they're not an exception. Black people have great lives like everyone else. All you want to focus on are poor blacks, but so what, as there are poor people of every color.

I don't have anything against billionaires, and I'm certainly not one of them. If someone does better in life, that's because they're smarter than me, maybe harder working. I don't live my life looking for who to hate, whether based on race, religion or wealth. I choose happiness.
 acrosstheplains
Joined: 8/1/2017
Msg: 1029
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Posted: 8/24/2018 2:36:20 PM


You have to want to. Black people are free to go back to Africa if they find living in the U.S. is too difficult for them.

it's the ignorance that astounds. Africa is a continent dearie. 54 countries. While slavery did occur more in the coastal areas simply because of the increased cost of taking the kidnapped prisoners over land compared to sea, many areas of Africa had people stolen to support the wealth making activities of the English slavers and American plantation owners etc etc. And yes, I am aware that there was a slave trade in between different African countries too, particularly the Arabic countries in North Africa. Slavery was prevalent even in ancient Roman and Egyptian times, and quite probably prehistoric times.

Surprisingly, some African countries don't want people with no proven connection (other than the color of their skin) entering their countries and claiming some sort of asylum or return to birth right.

I believe that "black people" want equality of opportunity and treatment, just like "white people" just like anybody, except those who already have most of the cake for themselves and don't want to share it out fairly.

Of course no one wants to be labelled as failures. That's not we're doing, we just asking people to acknowledge when the system is unfair and needs changing. When people bury their heads in the sand and claim there isn't a problem, that's precisely when there is a problem. I am well aware that there are many white people in the US who are struggling with the system, struggling to rise above poverty. The one difference, the one benefit is that in most areas of the US, a white person isn't subject to institutionalized racist discrimination.

 anonymoususer2018
Joined: 8/8/2018
Msg: 1030
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Posted: 8/25/2018 12:33:11 AM
" Are you fvcking kidding me? And you don't think that is blatant racism? You've clearly demonstrated why you are an avid Trump supporter."

So you think that all trump supporters are racist? you are a jackass that has shown your true ignorance. What proof do you have that Trump hates black people? I'm not defending the user that you responded to but you have generalized all trump supporters. socialist libtards like you are the reason why the democracy is circling the drain.

Now on to the issue at hand. We have a bunch of over paid jerk offs kneeling during the national anthem. They have basically spit in the face of people who have put their lives on the line for our freedom. granted this is a free country ( at least for now) so they have the freedom to kneel. They should , however, be mandated by the people that sign their checks to stand. If they still refuse to stand, fire their ass. They can work at mcdonalds. If they do get fired, they shouldn't be able to file a lawsuit because that would not be termination based on race. If you work for an employer and you don't comply to a policy, that employer is within their right to fire you. These overpaid premadonnas are getting paid millions to do what they do and are calling having to stand for the national anthem slavery. For the money they make, I want to be a slave. Sign me up. I will say that I liked that Jerry Jones said that all the cowboys players will stand for the national anthem or they wont be on the team. having said that, I might watch some cowboys games but that'll be all the football I'll watch this season if I watch any football at all.
 jotlet
Joined: 8/20/2018
Msg: 1031
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Posted: 8/25/2018 3:35:48 AM
Anonymousahole, I'm wondering who you were in the past on this board...so many nonsensical aholes..I would call you the babbling king but that title is already taken by another. You babblers have common traits....first and foremost...you make no sense and second you are aholes
You fit the mold. Only difference..the babbling king didn't like trump...you on the other hand would gladly wipe trumps fat azz. Bigly sad.
 anonymoususer2018
Joined: 8/8/2018
Msg: 1032
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Posted: 8/25/2018 6:15:01 AM
"you on the other hand would gladly wipe trumps fat azz. Bigly sad"

Jotlet. You don't know me you f*cking libtard. You are just another opinionated socialist jackass douchebag who has difficulty accepting peoples opinions that differ from your own. You say that I make no sense and I babble only because you can't intelligently counter debate the points that I made. You are a feminazi who would eat hillary clinton's pu&$y on a dime whether she stole your identity or not. Since you have a so much of a problem with how trump is running the country, why don't you leave the country. Better yet why don't you join ANTIFA and see how long you'll last
 jotlet
Joined: 8/20/2018
Msg: 1033
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Posted: 8/25/2018 6:39:06 AM
^^^^Nonsensical Babbling and trump azz-wiping = low IQ. Anonymousahole = humorlous. Biglier Sad.
 anonymoususer2018
Joined: 8/8/2018
Msg: 1034
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Posted: 8/25/2018 6:52:44 AM
again you fricking idiot faminazi, You say I have a low IQ simply because you know I'm right. You have nothing to counter debate what I'm saying little long intelligently debate me. You have NO evidence whatsoever that trump is a racist. I can think for myself unlike you who had made up sh!t about trump and you blindly believed it. You are nothing but a keyboard warrior would would gladly wipe obama's azz and lick clinton's Pu$&y.
 jotlet
Joined: 8/20/2018
Msg: 1035
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Posted: 8/25/2018 6:59:59 AM
^^^at least I am a high IQ keyboard warrior..
You otoh are a dumb babbling anonymousahole with no ability to distinguish between facts and alternative facts. No evidence trump is a racist? ROFLManonymousAO
 L_LuuLuu
Joined: 8/2/2009
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Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 8/25/2018 10:29:59 AM
So now that the Net Works have decided not to televise the playing of our National Anthem the issue of "taking the knee" is settled.

Or is it?

We'll find out soon enough.
 Sandbyday
Joined: 7/25/2017
Msg: 1037
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Posted: 8/25/2018 11:05:23 PM
“If I think that the NFL owners and players have gotten too big for their britches, I can not watch them anymore. Withdraw my financial support so to speak. Go watch non NFL games or take up another interest.

Others can do the same.”

Sorry to break it to you but after we pass 35 we are disposable in the view of advertisers. And in our case we are over 60 and no where near the money making demographic, So fk em, I watch what I like to watch no matter and buy what I want because I can.

The ones that advertisers are after are the young manipulative Rachel Madow, Anderson Cooper, Steven Colbert, and Kimmel viewers. You know, those highly intelligent independent thinkers with the big brains.


NOT!!!!
 dolatar
Joined: 8/21/2018
Msg: 1038
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Posted: 8/26/2018 4:11:17 AM
^^^^^^its endlessly amusing to me that you who are so easily manipulated are totally unaware of it.
 Sweet_Danimal
Joined: 10/31/2015
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Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 8/26/2018 11:31:44 AM
If you think you don't make an impact on TV ratings, I'd suggest trying to be a Nielsen ratings family. They have these pager things you carry on you most of the day that passively record every radio station and TV show and webcast within earshot. They can be a minor inconvenience, but during the time when my Ex and I tried it, we found out we represented something between 4,000 and 9,000 homes in our area. That's a significant impact. Some people in here would put the pager next to the tv and leave Fox News on 24/7 like usual, but it doesn't work that way. They have motion sensors, so you gotta have them in motion to record.
 Seahorse_Jockey
Joined: 8/24/2018
Msg: 1040
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Posted: 8/27/2018 5:04:54 PM
An argument made by the anti-kneeling crowd is if you were to do the same type of thing at your place of employment, you would probably get fired. So, who is responsible for firing the football players who take a knee? The owners-right? Players till took a knee in games aster Trump had a public meltdown and called them SOB's and said they should all be fired.

Is Trump going to have another public temper tantrum and call the team owners SOB's for not firing the players who knelt? By not firing the players, owners are basically giving them the right to kneel if they feel inclined to do it. So why didn't Trump target the owners who allow it, and call them names, instead of just blaming the players?
 Sandbyday
Joined: 7/25/2017
Msg: 1041
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Posted: 8/27/2018 5:59:25 PM

So now that the Net Works have decided not to televise the playing of our National Anthem


No big thing.

THE NETWORKS NEVER TELEVISED THE ANTHEM BEFORE ALL THIS BULLSHIT BEGAN TWO YEARS AGO.

Superbowl, yes, and possibly some playoff games. But never regular season games.

Don't believe me?

Turn on the beginning of any Major League Baseball game and see if they televise the Anthem.

You won't, and they are the same networks that broadcast football games.
 Sandbyday
Joined: 7/25/2017
Msg: 1042
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Posted: 8/27/2018 6:22:05 PM

its endlessly amusing to me that you who are so easily manipulated are totally unaware of it


After 60 or more accurately 45 people are set in their ways, have consumed the same products for decades and purchase the same ones every time they go back yo the store. They aren't as easily sold on other products as young minds that are prone to a 30 second sales pitch.

If you didn't realize this most basic and simplest concept of marketing you are a complete imbecile.
 plftre
Joined: 8/20/2018
Msg: 1043
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Posted: 8/28/2018 10:00:23 AM

The ones that advertisers are after are the young manipulative Rachel Madow, Anderson Cooper, Steven Colbert, and Kimmel viewers. You know, those highly intelligent independent thinkers with the big brains.


This is where you are so easily manipulated....the above, including Mado, Cooper, Colbert and Kimmel know exactly what is going on, and so do those who view them... You Fox News watchers are utterly lost...and so easily manipulated. Sad.
 NewYorker58
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Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 8/28/2018 10:42:37 AM
Kimmel, the ultimate snowflake. How many times has he blubbered on his show, not that I watch it, but it made the news. He was crying about his sick kid once, and thru his his tiny tears, he still managed to mention and bash Trump as he spoke about his infant.

Talk about pandering to one's base, and using his infant to do so. He's a whiny, crying......what goes with those 2 words? Liberal.
 Rumours
Joined: 6/4/2018
Msg: 1045
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Posted: 8/28/2018 10:51:26 AM
^^^^^Ya know....You really are a stupid BI TCH!!

Pig...you were right about her….I apologise to you.
She deserves every bashing she gets on here.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 8/28/2018 11:17:55 AM
What did the unemployed man-child that's living in his parent's basement say? I know he had a lot of negative things to say about you. Are you one of his menopausal groupies now? If so, spread your legs and give men what they want, was his mantra, but don't worry, because he would never have sex with you.
 trinity818
Joined: 9/1/2006
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Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 8/28/2018 11:25:13 AM

Talk about pandering to one's base, and using his infant to do so. He's a whiny, crying......what goes with those 2 words? Liberal.


Your choice of words indicates that you are an exceptionally callous person.

How can you sit there and post about "liberals" being "whiny & crying", when Trump whines constantly about anyone who dares to disagree with him?
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 8/28/2018 11:33:14 AM
Maybe you missed Kimmel crying, literally crying. He needs psychological help, not a talk show. Btw, their whiny rants are written for them, just in case you have an affinity for any late-night aholes, it's their writers you're hearing that think their train of thought will get them more viewers, because it's all about the $$$$. How naive if you think their rants are heart-felt
 Rumours
Joined: 6/4/2018
Msg: 1049
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Posted: 8/28/2018 11:42:15 AM
You continue to not comprehend "why" he was crying....stupid B.
Not everything is scripted and Fake...you idiot!

You are just a "nasty" man hating woman.....can't stop your true colors from shining through.
Morals and character matter.
Ugh...like talking to a fence post....
 apriloveswhiteroses
Joined: 7/28/2018
Msg: 1050
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Posted: 8/28/2018 11:52:22 AM
^^
You sound like you are off your meds today.!
Call your nurse and make her To give it to you.!.:):)

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Ps


You know what?...Because of the language you all Canadian woman use here in American political's, you should be banned from AMERICAN politic thread....
You are NOT american citizen.. SHE IS.!!!
she can and must express her first amendment right.!
YOU have no right to use that low class language with her Who is an AMERICAN ...
You need to go take care Of your CANADIAN Politics where you belong to.!
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