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 Rumours
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The ultimate GOTCHA….Good for him.
 Sandbyday
Joined: 7/25/2017
Msg: 1077
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Posted: 9/4/2018 10:23:35 AM
Keep a keen eye out for the new kneepads line with the logo of a pig dressed as a police officer.
 SS4544Spd
Joined: 8/31/2016
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Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 9/4/2018 10:50:17 AM
Sandbyday wrote:
Keep a keen eye out for the new kneepads line with the logo of a pig dressed as a police officer.
I would think something more along the lines of the NFL cancelling or revising Nike's role as official supplier of game day apparel, or something like that. I mean, this is a huge poke in the eye of the uber-powerful NFL owners. Actually I still can't believe Nike did it. And the Plantation...er....Team owners DO have the right to cancel any contract or switch to other suppliers, etc. etc. , legalese permitting, and even with protective legalese, it wouldn't surprise me if it couldn't be terminated because, regardless of the altrustic or noble intentions, it is clearly a slap in the face of what the NFL owners feel is their "interests." No customer wants a supplier that doesn't act in tandem with their interests...especially something as publicly sensitive as this. But termination of a contract would be a huge escalation, and more bad press.

I can hear the right, crying that the military - whom Nike is siding against in this case, in their view - protects the seas, especially in seas where there's plenty of seagoing commerce, thus enabling all those containerloads of Nike shoes and apparel coming from China, Vietnam, or whatever slave wage h*llhole they come from....And thus protecting Nikes profit stream. The right would have a fair point there.

Actually this is becoming more interesting to follow than the impending games.
 Rumours
Joined: 6/4/2018
Msg: 1079
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Posted: 9/4/2018 12:07:21 PM

I can hear the right, crying that the military - whom Nike is siding against in this case, in their view - protects the seas, especially in seas where there's plenty of seagoing commerce, thus enabling all those containerloads of Nike shoes and apparel coming from China, Vietnam, or whatever slave wage h*llhole they come from....And thus protecting Nikes profit stream. The right would have a fair point there.

The right might have a fair point ...If beside that Nike shipment wasn't Trumps ties/apparel sitting in the next container.


I heard that Nike always had him under contract...just hadn't used him.
I could be wrong.
 L_LuuLuu
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Posted: 9/5/2018 1:16:44 PM

Sorry to break it to you but after we pass 35 we are disposable in the view of advertisers. And in our case we are over 60 and no where near the money making demographic, So fk em, I watch what I like to watch no matter and buy what I want because I can.

The ones that advertisers are after are the young …..



I personally think Pro Football has seen its better days anyway. It's been on the decline for several seasons now, and the new refusal of about 1/4 of the nation to watch it only speeds things up -- it's not the cause.

Many of the younger folks weren't allowed to play football by their helicopter Moms. So now they're not watching it either. Probably rather see soccer -- like they played themselves.

The recent feminization of men, and the blurring of gender lines, add to the mix.

As the last of the grumpy old men (and women) pass on -- Football will inevitably fade into the sunset.

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As for Nike -- they may be on to something.

Nike stock has been on a serious downslide for several seasons.

Most younger chix aren't wearing athletic shoes, and active wear as casual outer wear anymore. Younger white men do wear sneakers, but most don't take them too seriously. Lots of other "fancy label brands flood the market, to compete with Nike.
The old folks still wear sneakers, but we are on the decline.

That leaves younger African Males (maybe some females, too), who will spend big bucks for top of the line shoes.

And don't forget the millennials who feel concerned about White Privilege.

I sure DON'T want to stereotype. But GENERALLY speaking, what I have said is true.


PS -- I really doubt that the U.S. Military is going to blockade Chinese shippers for carrying Nikes. I just don't think that's in their mission statement.
 tomtoatat
Joined: 9/2/2018
Msg: 1081
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Posted: 9/6/2018 5:03:07 AM
Actually lulu, Nike stick price has been at an all time high. Just saying.
 L_LuuLuu
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Posted: 9/6/2018 7:25:35 AM
^^^^^^^^^

Actually, it's been on the decline.

I trade and watch the markets daily. also read market reports and watch market analysis shows daily.

It's been dipping in the last 3 months or so.

Dipped more at the announcement of the new ad campaign. But as of yesterday evening, its headed up

Nice try though.

Just saying.
 tomtoatat
Joined: 9/2/2018
Msg: 1083
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Posted: 9/6/2018 8:32:16 AM
We must be looking at a different Nike...

Analyst Note | by R.J. Hottovy Updated Jun 29, 2018
We view wide-moat Nike's strong finish to fiscal 2018 as validating recent product innovation, speed-to-market, and direct-to-consumer investments. Similar to recent quarters, Nike's international segments (up 23% on a constant-currency basis including 25% growth from China) and digital platforms (up 41%) were key top-line contributors (total revenue up 8%), helping to drive 60 basis points of gross margin expansion to 44.7%. However, a return to positive growth in North America (up 3% compared with a 6% decline last quarter) was the clear highlight, suggesting that inventory supply/demand imbalance issues may be in the past (inventories remained very clean, up only 2%). Additionally, new cushion platforms (Nike React) and Flyknit technologies, digital assets such as NikePlus membership and the SNKRS app, and supply-chain refinements (including the North American returns facility) and predictive analytics stemming from the Zodiac acquisition position North America for sustainable growth. Coupled with its budding Amazon partnership, management's outlook calling for mid-single-digit revenue growth in North America the next few years looks achievable.

Nike's momentum heading into fiscal 2019 gives us greater confidence in its full-year guidance--including high-single-digit growth (up from the midsingle to high single digits), gross margin expansion of 50 points or more (our preliminary model is coming out at between 70-80 basis points of improvement), and SG&A expense growth at the same pace of revenue--but also leaves the door open for upside opportunities. Over the next five years, our model is aligned with management's financial targets calling for high-single-digit annual top-line growth and midteens EPS growth. We're planning a modest increase to our $70 fair value estimate for the time value of money, and while we view shares as fairly valued, we still like Nike's growth/income balance (including a new four-year $15 billion share-repurchase program).
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 Sweet_Danimal
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Posted: 9/6/2018 2:18:41 PM
Nike 10 years ago was at $10 a share in March of 2009, now it is $82.20
You have to look at the stock graphs on the one-month level to see any kind of significant decline, which is a myopic scan in terms of long range blue chip stock. But, people choose to frame their own perspectives as 'right' even if they choose to see one leaf in an entire forest.

Nike shoes have never fit my feet. Ever. So I don't buy them. Any apparel I wear with their logo comes from a thrift store, so my money goes into some charity, not their corporate coffers.

The "Just Do It" campaign has been made up from the defiant attitude to get moving instead of being lazy from it's very inception. Being conformist and conservative with their choices of spokes models has been done at their own peril - and it doesn't work. Finding athletes with energy and attitudes is entirely within the scope of what they want their product to represent. It's marketing. It's the idea that an inanimate object or product or service can be tied to a particular face or attitude.

Military or patriotic displays at the NFL games is no different. The NFL is using their paid client (US Military) to tie their own product (entertainment service) into an attitude that a sport is somehow, magically "America's" game. Never mind that there are thousands of other games out there born in the U.S.A. that have been obliterated from our common conscience because the NFL and their advertisers dominate the ratings and airways. Patriotism is as much a marketing tool as anything else out there - peer pressure, staying 'modern', demonizing the competition - geez, all it takes is a couple commercial breaks during the local news to see all the crap people are trying to use to get a vote this November.

What people blinded by patriotism absolutely refuse to believe is if it wasn't mutually beneficial to both parties, they WOULD seek to sell their product somewhere else. If the NFL felt endorsing the military became a bad fiscal idea, it would be gone - faster than Gary Hart's Presidential campaign. Because THAT is what FREEDOM is. So far, it has worked - and it works for other sports and events as well. But that doesn't mean it always will. A lot of the rest of the world doesn't do anthems with their sport competitions. Should we conform to what the rest of the world does? Of course not. Do our citizens need to conform to everything WE like to do? Hell, NO! -- And that is the crux of the sides in this argument. People want freedom, they want people to fight for that freedom, they want everyone to respect people that fight for that freedom - but what they don't understand - is that freedom is not limited to what YOU want or believe it should be.
 Sandbyday
Joined: 7/25/2017
Msg: 1085
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Posted: 9/6/2018 6:33:03 PM
While you phony fans are all consumed with your fleeting dreams of social justice through unrelated TV broadcasts and your minute to minute anal rectum investigations of administration personal,

I'm watching a hellofa first NFL game of the season on TNF, the World Champs v. the Dirty Birds.
 Sandbyday
Joined: 7/25/2017
Msg: 1086
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Posted: 9/10/2018 7:32:03 PM
No broadcasting of the national anthem in any of the 6 games I watched so far this season.

NFL singlehandedly sends the haters to the deep dark abyss of their web screens to effortfully search into the pit of dredge for bootleg footage of footie kneelers to share amongst akin haters to hate amongst themselves.

Meanwhile the true admirers of sport can enjoy the game unfettered without childish extensions of political brouhaha during the entertaining evening.
 Llove2laugh2
Joined: 9/9/2018
Msg: 1087
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Posted: 9/23/2018 11:15:41 AM

Nike’s Market Value Surges By $6 Billion After Controversial Kaepernick Ad

"After an initial dip in share prices, Nike’s stock has skyrocketed to a near all-time high."

Contrary to President Donald Trump’s claim that Nike would get “killed” by its decision to sign an endorsement deal with former NFL player Colin Kaepernick, the sportswear giant appears to be thriving.

As CBS News reported Friday, Nike’s market value has surged by nearly $6 billion since the company unveiled Kaepernick ― who sparked controversy as the instigator of protests by NFL players against racism and police brutality ― as the star of a provocative ad campaign.

Nike’s share prices were quick to rebound from that initial dip, however, and in recent weeks have been performing near an “an all-time high,” CBS said.

The company has sold out 61 percent more merchandise since releasing its Kaepernick ad, Reuters reported last week.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nike-market-value-colin-kaepernick_us_5ba7693ae4b0375f8f9dcb09


#VoteRepublicansOut2018
 N2U18
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Posted: 9/23/2018 12:21:30 PM
"Buy the Dip"........ its, pretty basic
 Llove2laughtoo
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Posted: 11/10/2018 10:55:24 PM
If a football player kneeling during the national anthem is an act of disrespect to our military, what is it when draft dodger Cadet Bone Spurs president of the United States refuses to go to the cemetery to honor fallen soldiers because of a little rain? You can skip the outrage over the hypocrisy part and save your breath.


The White House and President Trump took some heat on Saturday after it was announced that he would not make a previously scheduled visit to a cemetery in France for Americans killed in World War I due to inclement weather.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-takes-heat-over-scrapped-trip-to-cemetery-in-france
 congupnaroad
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Posted: 11/10/2018 11:21:51 PM

If a football player kneeling during the national anthem is an act of disrespect to our military, what is it when draft dodger Cadet Bone Spurs president of the United States refuses to go to the cemetery to honor fallen soldiers because of a little rain? You can skip the outrage over the hypocrisy part and save your breath


Oh the hypocrisy of someone who has never served in the military (you) criticising an alleged draft dodger has not been lost.I'm sure there would be an enlistment office in your city though.

Anyway shyte for brains, the helicopter could not go to the memorial because of low lying cloud and the White House staff had security concerns about hastily organising a motorcade to the site. Why they never had that contingency plan I have no idea and i don't care.
But as usual the lying American press has twisted everything around, to make Trump look disrespectful, when in reality that is one big lie.
 Llove2laughtoo
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Posted: 11/10/2018 11:33:07 PM

Oh the hypocrisy of someone who has never served in the military (you)


Get your head out of Cadet Bone Spur's ass, Unless you are a psychic you will not know whether I served or not. Would you care to make it more interesting and put your money where your mouth is?

You Cannot Put A Crown on a Clown and Expect Him to Behave Like a King.
 congupnaroad
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Posted: 11/11/2018 1:02:51 PM

Get your head out of Cadet Bone Spur's ass, Unless you are a psychic you will not know whether I served or not. Would you care to make it more interesting and put your money where your mouth is?


Oh I'm sure you and your fellow Girl Scouts are doing some great community work, so please keep it up. But just to clarify things for you, the Girl Scouts are not an arm of the military.
 platitude545
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Posted: 11/11/2018 1:58:34 PM
Some day Cong...you and all other diehard Trump supporters are going to have to justify to yourselves, your children or your God how you could so strongly support such a despicable man as Trump. He is the only President in the history of our country whom I can think of who has absolutely zero redeeming features... Even Nixon, bad as he was, had some good things that could be said about him....he was smart...he opened doors with China...Historians will really have to struggle to say anything good about Trump.
 Llove2laughtoo
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Posted: 11/11/2018 2:51:26 PM

Msg: 1092
Oh I'm sure you and your fellow Girl Scouts are doing some great community work, so please keep it up. But just to clarify things for you, the Girl Scouts are not an arm of the military.


As expected, you are just like your dear leader, Cadet Bone Spurs, full of poop. Do you feel better now you’ve had the chance to reflect your insecurities on me?

Elect a Clown - Expect a Circus!!!

You Cannot Put A Crown on a Clown and Expect Him to Behave Like a King.
 2Irish123
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Posted: 11/11/2018 8:19:30 PM
The precedent's apologists are having a hard time defending his hinnies absences at the
Armistice Day ceremonies. It's so sad they cannot turn to whatabouterism to apologize....hahahahahahahahaha
 Million_Reasons
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Posted: 11/11/2018 8:22:51 PM
^Based upon that statement...you have no military experience, either. Lol!
 2Irish123
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Posted: 11/11/2018 8:37:33 PM
Read my profile Ahole
 Million_Reasons
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Posted: 11/11/2018 8:52:50 PM
^Ahole? Moi? I am offended!

Yeah. Couldn't get past the soy boy, depends wearing, viagra nccissity diatribe.

What was I suppose to learn?
 mungo_joe
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Posted: 11/11/2018 8:55:02 PM

^Based upon that statement...you have no military experience, either. Lol!


Well... he was definitely right... nary a whisper of... "but, Obama..."

Funny how they turn to... inanities... at these times... trying to defend the... Commode-in-Chief...

Do you think it's due to... knowing that... the adults now have their foot back on the brake...? I think so...


(Mungo_joe ponders posting a pick of a dolphin... and changing his name to Flipper)
 2Irish123
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Posted: 11/11/2018 9:10:54 PM
Oh, Joe, Good to see you!


Well... he was definitely right... nary a whisper of... "but, Obama..."

Funny how they turn to... inanities... at these times... trying to defend the... Commode-in-Chief...

Do you think it's due to... knowing that... the adults now have their foot back on the brake...? I think so.


The ahole can't read or he cannot comprehend what he does read...isn't that just Atypical of Aholes? And all to apologize for the A-hole-in-chief...hahahahahahahaha
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