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 NewYorker58
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How childish to want to delete a thread or comment. That would be typical of someone on the left to do because as they're talking about tolerance they have no tolerance, or talk about freedom of speech, then try to shut people down from talking, they talk about racism and they say racist things. Hypocrites. The best part is when they talk about their hate for the white man and they're white, LOL. There's a lot of self-loathing going on I guess.

Maybe this thread is perceived to be about President Trump when it's about football players kneeling or sitting, now hiding, that started before Trump took office. That started with Colin Kaepernick. If Kaepernick isn't being offered a contract because he's supposedly being black balled for being a disturbance/distraction, then why would all these teams be following suit, allowed by the team owners?

For the intolerant Canadians, heal thyself. You have big problems: http://symbolofstrength.info/2017/09/25/400-children-rescued348-adults-arrested-after-police-take-down-4-million-child-porn-empire/
 daynadaze
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Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 9/28/2017 4:36:23 AM
I see you have no idea why this site was set up for some people can vote to keep or delete an original post.
 Kj521
Joined: 11/16/2016
Msg: 103
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Posted: 9/28/2017 4:51:11 AM
"For the intolerant Canadians,"


While there is no doubt some exist....there are far more that are just lovely. :)


I absolutely loved this video where Edmonton Oilers fans sing the US National Anthem after a microphone failure.

https://youtu.be/Qf2jb51HzTs


But that wasn't the first time....it happened here in Toronto, too.

https://youtu.be/mHSaHRd4Q48


And then America gets to return the kindness and give thanks by singing O Canada.

https://youtu.be/_iT51HOM1sA



And then you have....

"Predators star P.K. Subban says he won’t kneel during U.S. anthem"

"Subban, who is Canadian, said that he would “never” kneel for “The Star-Spangled Banner” because he has too much respect for the American flag."


Think I might need to become a NHL fan. :D
 vlad dracul
Joined: 4/30/2009
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Posted: 9/28/2017 5:06:02 AM
Is the sherman national anthem played all the time when club teams meet? Over here in Scotland the national anthem, Flower Of Scotland, is played when the national team is playing but club sides have their own tunes.

My team Hibernian FC either play Glory Glory To The Hibees or The Proclaimers song Sunshine On Leith. All club sides have taken a tune and made it their own. And the tunes are played just before the teams come onto the pitch.

The only Scottish football teams who sing god save the queen are rangers at castle greyskull or our city rivals the merricks at the moo camp.

FC Koln played arsenal the other week in a european tie. They got allocated 2,500 or so tickets. At least 20,000 made the trip to north london. They have take Scottish song Loch Lomond as their own. It was gobsmacking.

Liverpool with the gerry and the pacemakers song Walk On. Watching 40/50 thousand folk sing it is brilliant to see. Kilmarnock fans sing Paper Roses for some reason. West ham with I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles (no not michael Jackson) and millwall with No One Likes Us, We Don't Care.

As for protests. When the odious tory wallace mercer died (he tried to put my team out of business) the tribute at the moo camp, we stood up but turned our backs.

The biggest contention over here is Remembrance weekend. Most clubs wear a kit with a stitched on poppy. But the plastic paddys of celtic usually boo or chant through the minutes silence. Which might i add is their right to do.

All uk nations were fined by fifa last year for wearing stitched on poppies last year. But they have now allowed it. Not that it would have stopped the nations anyway.

Your football teams are now drawing big crowds. Especially your international side. They have a big following called The Outlaws i believe? If they are like our followers of Scotland (the tartan army) anyone who disrespected the anthem would get a slap.

Ps. The polis kill citizens over here as well for no reason.
 gtomustang
Joined: 6/16/2007
Msg: 105
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Posted: 9/28/2017 7:29:21 AM
"We are $20 Trillion in debt, and all people want to talk about is racism"

>>>if we believe unity, that all Americans working together, is the solution, then we finally have to solve, not ignore, the question, "do we oppress a large percentage of our own population, or don't we?". If the working class believes it has to rise up against the elite and "take back America", then it will only succeed when it stops swallowing institutionalized racism and joins forces against the institution using it to weaken their impact...which has drones and a technologically advanced military and a militarize police force. Kent State can easily occur again, and it can be done with bomb disposal robots and drones that makes personal ownership of "black rifles" nothing more than an excuse for the militarized response. Oh, it sounds paranoid, but show me evidence it hasn't already been experimented and the public has said nothing. Alabama has already picked a potential representative who believes in "law and order". You think an "us versus them" mentality won't one day label YOU the "them"? one day, they came for the black motorists, and we said nothing....

If you worry about the debt, Chump already told you the answer--default, just like he did on his business deals. Or print enough paper money to inflate our way out of the debt. Either plan of his should scare the hell right out of you. And this "new" tax plan the GOP wants to pass for the rich, Trickle Down 2.1?

One thing is certain, sports games really bring out the passion in human beings.
 _babblefish
Joined: 9/23/2011
Msg: 106
Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 9/28/2017 7:50:28 AM

For the intolerant Canadians, heal thyself. You have big problems


of course we do, especially when it comes to the exploitation of children, good to see arrests being made . . .
maybe your laws/gov't could make some headway with the village voice and their backpage.com facilitation of child trafficking .. watch: I AM JANE DOE

* for many round the world "take the knee" would be considered an act of humility and respect


Jon Snow bent the knee
 poppata
Joined: 8/6/2017
Msg: 107
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Posted: 9/28/2017 8:05:27 AM
"""Maybe this thread is perceived to be about President Trump""

That's because it's all about Trump and this vile man sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. You have to be obtuse not to see it.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 108
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Posted: 9/28/2017 8:14:19 AM

Yes, America is the greatest country this world has ever seen.

Although it may still be a powerhouse, it's ranking as "the greatest" has slipped to 7th place this year. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/


According to the rankings, perceptions of the United States in a number of areas have dropped over the past year. The United States dropped in rankings for business, citizenship, adventure tourism, education, transparency and headquartering a corporation. Nearly 75 percent of survey respondents said they had lost some respect for U.S. leadership after the 2016 presidential election...
 poppata
Joined: 8/6/2017
Msg: 109
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Posted: 9/28/2017 8:30:40 AM
It's sorely lacking in many areas...health care, justice, etc....and of course it is down there on the happiness ranking. It's all a matter of perspective of course. Trump has had a pretty good life although with all his money and ability to eat only the healthiest of foods, he still ended up being a fat fuk.
 ThroatLozenge
Joined: 3/2/2016
Msg: 110
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Posted: 9/28/2017 8:34:50 AM
Where’s RDM when you need a mouthy minority?
 cobster11030
Joined: 7/2/2017
Msg: 111
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Posted: 9/28/2017 9:00:54 AM
We are lacking in healthcare??? Really?? But I thought....never mind.
 SS4544Spd
Joined: 8/31/2016
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Sitting, kneeling or hiding out in the lockeroom during our anthem
Posted: 9/28/2017 9:19:53 AM
NY 58 opined:


That would be typical of someone on the left to do because as they're talking about tolerance they have no tolerance, or talk about freedom of speech, then try to shut people down from talking,
Right. Just like conservatives whining about Kaepernick?


The best part is when they talk about their hate for the white man and they're white, LOL.
So...we whites are supposed to be unconditionally supportive of all other white people? I guess that's the equivalent of "hating America" if you don't unconditionally support everything America does? Got it. LOL



If Kaepernick isn't being offered a contract because he's supposedly being black balled for being a disturbance/distraction, then why would all these teams be following suit, allowed by the team owners?
The owners have the right to blackball Kaepernick. It's the cost to Kaepernick of exercising his right to free speech. It is costing him dearly. That's what makes him pretty damn courageous in my book. We should all be so courageous. Instead, most of us (me included) preach to everyone else about what should be done but the don't follow suit ourselves.

There's a difference between agreeing with Kaepernick's message and agreeing with his right to transmit that message any way he sees fit. Personally, I think it's about time pro athletes start speaking up about things of importance, instead of taking the rich man's money and shutting up.
 SS4544Spd
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Posted: 9/28/2017 9:27:08 AM
cobster wrote:


We are $20 trillion in debt...and all people want to talk about is racism.
I find more troubling that we are $20 trillion in debt, and all Trump/GOP wants to talk about is tax cuts. I don't think racism, or the lack thereof, adds the debt....while tax cuts do. Maybe you should worry about that? Seems like those worried about the debt would be more actively and vocally protesting Trump/GOP's new tax cuts plan......Hmmm....where are the Tea Partiers when you need them?? Oh, I forgot.....it's AOK when it's a Republican doing the borrowing and spending!!!! LOL....

And it's been proven that tax cuts don't pay for themselves. There's 20 trillion pieces of evidence right under our nose.

And you never did answer my question as to why Federal government hating Texans have their hands out to Federal Government for help with disaster relief. Probably the same reason Texas Gov Abbot won millions in his lawsuit for his crippling injury, but wanted to pass lawsuit reform for everyone else. Sounds about right.

"Do as I say, not as I do"
 cobster11030
Joined: 7/2/2017
Msg: 114
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Posted: 9/28/2017 10:19:16 AM
I am not sure what you are talking about. Can you please cite the post where I said those things on Texas??
Then I'll explain.

$20 trillion in debt and tax revenues, last I heard, were at all time highs...What's your answer,more taxes??
Prison time for convicted tax cheats??


Black on black crime...look up the numbers
Black on white crime...
The amount of black babies that are aborted every year.
You really should watch that youtube video that was posted. There are some things though you just aren't supposed to talk about .
Black people have so much handed to them, especially these millionaire pro athletes, and they are still crying racism.
If you want to protest the police, do it in front of the police station.
It's all about racism, diversity, and publically funded abortion. Everything comes back to that. (just like your post)
This will not save a country.

IF they still feel the world is out to get them, they have the money to move.. I hear Lagos is a nice place this time of year....


And yes, America is the greatest country this world has ever seen.
 chameleonf
Joined: 12/22/2008
Msg: 115
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Posted: 9/28/2017 10:31:30 AM

And yes, America is the greatest country this world has ever seen.

Then you better tell your Prez to stop using the catch phrase that he's gonna Make America Great Again...which implies it's not great every time it's spouted.
 ThroatLozenge
Joined: 3/2/2016
Msg: 116
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Posted: 9/28/2017 10:38:10 AM
Vote NO on Aquanet!!
 cobster11030
Joined: 7/2/2017
Msg: 117
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Posted: 9/28/2017 10:40:00 AM
I just told him. Thanks for telling me I needed to pass along that information to him.


There is no greater symbol of Christianity than the cross.
There is no greater symbol of the greatest country this world has ever seen than our flag.
 _babblefish
Joined: 9/23/2011
Msg: 118
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Posted: 9/28/2017 11:02:48 AM
^ ambiguous narrative not even rooted in evidence,

but, if repeating that sentiment makes your d*ck twitch, have at it
 poppata
Joined: 8/6/2017
Msg: 119
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Posted: 9/28/2017 11:09:34 AM
"If you want to protest the police, do it in front of the police station. "

This douche-bag believes he can tell the rest of us how, when or if we should protest

"IF they still feel the world is out to get them, they have the money to move.. I hear Lagos is a nice place this time of year...."

The epitome of the ignorant, white trash who is the typical Trump supporter. So sad
 Kj521
Joined: 11/16/2016
Msg: 120
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Posted: 9/28/2017 11:20:26 AM
"The epitome of the ignorant, white trash who is the typical Trump supporter. So sad"

Thanks! Lol


I liked Taya Kyle's...(the widow of American Sniper Chris Kyle)....letter to the NFL.


Dear NFL,

You were doing your part to bring people together and heal the world. That’s really how healing works. We heal by loving each other and leading by example; showing people what is possible when we love each other just as we are and not only recognize our differences but celebrate them and look at how we can use them together to make us jointly better than our separate parts. You were doing your part celebrating each other based on skills, talent and a joint vision without regard to color and religion.

You were doing your part and we were doing ours. We showed up cheering and groaning together to as one. We talked in the concession lines and commiserated and celebrated our team together. Did it ever occur to you that you and we were already a mix of backgrounds, races and religions? We were already living the dream you want, right in front of you.

Your desire to focus on division and anger has shattered what many people loved most about the sport. Football was really a metaphor for our ideal world –different backgrounds, talents, political beliefs and histories as one big team with one big goal - to do well, to win, TOGETHER.

You are asking us to abandon what we loved about togetherness and make choices of division. Will we stand with you? Will we stand with our flag? What does it mean? What does it mean if we buy a ticket or NFL gear? What does it mean if we don’t? It is the polar opposite of the easy togetherness we once loved in football.

It was simple – we loved you and you loved us – with all of our races, religions, different backgrounds and politics. Simplicity in a crazy world was pretty awesome.

You dear NFL, have taken that. You have lost me here.

If you ever want to get off your knees and get to work on building bridges, let me know. I have found screaming about the problems in service marriages or even standing in silence in front of them, hasn’t healed even one of them. On the other hand, funding the Chris Kyle Frog Foundation, building a team and rolling up my sleeves to get in the trenches during my “off time” -volunteering there outside of my paying jobs - has proven to make real change.

You have a lot of strong guys, I am sure in the off season a lot of them could build some pretty big bridges if they care enough to do the hard work. That would involve getting off their knees and getting to work though. I can do it while I raise two kids as their only parent and work through the greatest pain of my life, let’s see if they can do it for the issues they say they care so much about.

Go Longhorns and Sic ‘Em …

Sincerely,
Taya
 poppata
Joined: 8/6/2017
Msg: 121
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Posted: 9/28/2017 11:29:16 AM
^^^^KJ, I have no problem with intelligent people, like yourself, who have what they believe to be legitimate reasons for supporting Trump. But face it, Trump does also have the support of a lot of white trash like C obster. Being a Trump supporter does not mean a person is white trash, but most white trash do support Trump.
 Kj521
Joined: 11/16/2016
Msg: 122
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Posted: 9/28/2017 12:03:41 PM
^^^^Mr. Poppata....you know I cannot agree with that.

In order to determine that....I would need to know what precisely is meant by "white trash"...then I would have to meet all these people and decide that I have something special within me that allows me to hold a superior position in which to judge them from.


Quite honestly? I am not that special. I'm special....just not that special. :)

Now...there are times I read some of these posts and think to myself....what a #@%$!!!

It's usually a fleeting feeling for me, though. And then I go back to neutral.
 _babblefish
Joined: 9/23/2011
Msg: 123
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Posted: 9/28/2017 12:31:29 PM

If you ever want to get off your knees and get to work on building bridges, let me know. I have found screaming about the problems in service marriages or even standing in silence in front of them, hasn’t healed even one of them. On the other hand, funding the Chris Kyle Frog Foundation, building a team and rolling up my sleeves to get in the trenches during my “off time” -volunteering there outside of my paying jobs - has proven to make real change.

You have a lot of strong guys, I am sure in the off season a lot of them could build some pretty big bridges if they care enough to do the hard work. That would involve getting off their knees and getting to work though. I can do it while I raise two kids as their only parent and work through the greatest pain of my life, let’s see if they can do it for the issues they say they care so much about.



damn ignorant ****es should take in a little tv ( watch the CNN town hall with Baldwin and Bennett)

Cliff Avril of the Seahawks builds houses in Haiti in the off season, then there's what Chancellor
does, as well as Sherman, Baldwin and Bennett, that's just off the top of my head .. do your homework before c/pasting bs conservative narrative


jesus. . who the hell puts a sniper on a pedestal anyways
 Kj521
Joined: 11/16/2016
Msg: 124
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Posted: 9/28/2017 12:37:53 PM
"Cliff Avril of the Seahawks builds houses in Haiti"

Was that because Hillary stole the money donated for Haiti? :/


"who the hell puts a sniper on a pedestal anyways"

No pedestal...but I give our Special Forces credit. I could not do what is asked of them...not even for the "Greater Good".


 poppata
Joined: 8/6/2017
Msg: 125
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Posted: 9/28/2017 12:58:41 PM
^^^^ Come on KJ...we all know what White Trash is.... racist, stupid . . or at least ignorant.... illogical. Again, its like Pornography.... you may not be able to define it (so said a US Supreme Court Justice when the Court was ruling on the First protecting Pornography), but you know it when you see it.

Now I can't speak for how you feel, but I'm pretty sure I'm pretty smart and I'm pretty sure I am more educated than the Yahoos (not saying all who post here are Yahoos of course) that post on this Forum, and I'm also pretty sure I am more well informed than many of them... so I have no problem feeling superior to them by way of having a better and more informed opinion. But that's just me :-)

I'm also pretty sure I understand First Amendment issues better than most, so I can see the obvious babbling from people like New Yorker or Cobster...people who often have no idea what they are talking about.. But that is the American Way in the Social Media Age. I get that :-)

BTW, normally I won't talk about superiority, but since most here think I am an arrogant jerk anyway... what the hell... might as well be me :-)
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