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 _Cinnamon__Girl_
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@adventurejoe.

Now I feel better- I have four cats, too.

I used to have six, but the last of that bunch passed away at age 19, in 2017.
 adventurejoe70
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Posted: 3/26/2019 7:26:09 AM
^^^Your doing something right! I have failed at getting them to live and thrive that long. But we always a sucker for the ones that have something wrong with them in the 1st place.


but I can tell you, don't feed hard food (kibble). It's really unhealthy and causes many medical problems, like UTIs, crystals/stones.


Then vets want to prescribe their unhealthy prescription food, that's also unhealthy and overpriced.
That is a half truth at best. Prescription food is average in quality. But they work often , that is why vets want you to buy them. They don't learn much about nutrition in school, same as human doctors don't. I know vets who tell you to buy them even though they don't sell them, they REALLY believe in them. Also , it says you from NY. In NY they are sold without a prescription since they are NOT legally prescription food.


Better stores sell premade raw, you feed it raw. That's what I feed my dog.

I would avoid RAW. Yes there are unproven claims but you can just as well cook the food and get most of the positives without the negatives.


For canned, don't buy supermarket food. Its all bad. Try Ziwipeak and Nature's Variety Instinct line.


More unproven claims. It is variable. I actually have a supermarket product that I give to former ferals that have Hypercalcemia. It is perfect for them, but I can read the labels. Natures Variety line has been implicated in causing Urinary issues in Cats. It is just a statistic fromthe feline urinary group.
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Posted: 4/2/2019 11:34:18 AM
adventurejoe70

The vet I have now told me to stay away from Friskies, and Meow Mix. She says they can cause kidney problems in cats that have a genetic propensity for it.
My group of six, that passed away (oldest one, 19) were all related, and all died of kidney disease- and I had fed them all Friskies. So, although my situation is anecdotal, maybe there is something to what my new vet said,
I don't use Friskies with my current bunch of fur-babies.
 adventurejoe70
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Posted: 4/2/2019 11:53:06 AM
^^^ Maybe.
Dry food in general can help kidney disease gets worst. Most cats don't drink much so they benefit from can food. As for Friskies can food... the would really depend what is in the food. I have a chart that shows phosphorous levels and it is average so I don't see the connection. If a food had an extremely high % like 10 times possibly it could speed the development like the study done in Germany. But no American based foods have that high a level..that I know of.

A large % of cats will get kidney disease after a certain age and there probably is a genetic connection. The most likely culprit though is cats eating dry food since the Kidneys need water. Also if you are going to listen to a vet talk about food..ask about the distemper shot. TBH most vets know very little about nutrition. Even Internal medicine specialists. When they start telling me stuff I ask them if they ever read clinical nutrition by Sean Delaney and they ALL have not(I own that text book). In school they aren't really educated in that.
I asked my vet , from Cornell mind you, if he heard of Distemper shots being a contributing factor and he said he never did. However, if you google you will see that the University of Colorado and some university studies in EU have seen a link. They grow the vaccine in kidney cells so it might be attacking healthy cells.
Because of that I am not doing distemper past the kitten series. Adults are already resistant to it and if you have indoor cat it is rare chance they would catch it anyhow. I also don't do rabies either since the protocol for it is outdated and dangerous. When the head of Vet school in Madiso wis. immunology dept, Dr. Shultz is saying most animals are immune when they get 1 properly timed shot..that is good for me. Recent protocols are based on AVA telling the gov't what was needed and incidentally back in the day vaccines were how most vets made their revenue.
Understand I am a bit cautious because my cat died 10 minutes , on a subway train, after being injected with a drug at Oncologist office. The company denied of course but still paid me to shut up .

All I know is one has to have a PHD to decipher cat food these days!
 CBGB77
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Posted: 4/26/2019 9:28:01 AM
I have been feeding my kitties a little less dry and more wet in the past few weeks. That is because Max(the white Angora) had a cluster of seizures(4 in less than 12 hours) I had to taken him to the vet after 2 and the emergency pet hospital after took him home and he had a 3rd. When I picked him up at the emergency hospital the next morning they said he had had a 4 th seizure overnight and they had stabilized him with a shot of Phenobarbital. I took him back to the vet that morning and they observed him and said he needed to stay on Phenobarbital and take it every 12 hours. He was original taking 1 pill every 12 hours but his blood test this week said his levels were too high so now he takes 1/2 pill every 12 hour. This is better because he was too doped up on the higher dose. He hasn't had another seizure for over 2 weeks now so I hope he will be ok.
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Posted: 4/26/2019 8:16:23 PM
I hope Max makes a full recovery. Your boys are such beautiful sweeties.
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Posted: 4/27/2019 10:33:36 AM

Posted By: ontheotherhand on 4/26/2019 1023 PM
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Message: I hope Max makes a full recovery. Your boys are such beautiful sweeties.


Thanks so much! Max is doing much better now that he has adjusted to the lower dose of medication. He and Balloo may get some new friends in the near future as my girlfriend has one girl cat Emma plus a boy named Pumpkin who is currently living with her daughter and fiance. They are getting married on Tuesday and after that her husband will start training as An Air Traffic Controller. When he finishes his training he may be assigned a post anywhere in the USA and pumpkin may not be able to go with them so he may endup with us.
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Posted: 4/27/2019 12:12:46 PM

TBH most vets know very little about nutrition. Even Internal medicine specialists.

I agree -- it's not their forte beyond the word going-around, unless you run into one who personally gets really into it. Same can be said for people vets. :)

Most cats don't drink much so they benefit from can food.

Water is so key. They are so weird about water. From my experience, they do not liking drinking from a bowl -- but you let the faucet trickle some water down, they love it. Showed my buddy this with his cat (I no longer have one) every time I'd come over. The cat would sit by the sink after I'd walk in.

Here's what you do: You buy a cat water fountain. They lap more water than anyone else. My buddy did that, and his cat's litter box quickly turned to quicksand!

https://www.chewy.com/catit-flower-pet-fountain/dp/178052
 adventurejoe70
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Posted: 4/28/2019 7:27:11 AM

I agree -- it's not their forte beyond the word going-around, unless you run into one who personally gets really into it. Same can be said for people vets. :)


True, a big difference is human doctors understand what foods to eat for certain conditions. Vets get a 2 day lecture on nutrition from the leading food companies and try sell prescription diets that they don't even understand. An MD would never IMHO suggest a certain food brand they don't know. The big pet food companies donate to the big vet schools. For, example prescription pet foods are full of carbs,cats poop it all out.

Water is so key. They are so weird about water.

They are from a climate where there isn't much water and get most water from their prey so in nature they don't have instinct to go look for water. In a way they are like camels because they usually, if un neutered, always have a bit of urine held so they can mark territory.


From my experience, they do not liking drinking from a bowl


Often because their whiskers get wet, which they don't like since whiskers are used as a kind of sensory object.

That being said the 2 kittens (1 yr old now) we adopted are INSANE. One of them drinks urine which the behaviorists have never seen. He is now fighting his water bowl. He pooped on my pillow a few days ago because my GF killed a water bug and wouldn't let him have it. I get like 4 hrs sleep now , which is why I am up early typing here.
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