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Joined: 3/6/2018
Msg: 26
nothing to look at here, folks. Just keep moving along, and buy a red hatPage 2 of 13    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13)
They wouldn't assassinate guess..they intend to manipulate him.
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 27
nothing to look at here, folks. Just keep moving along, and buy a red hat
Posted: 3/10/2018 7:10:20 AM
Just like countries planned to manipulate Kushner?

Chump is a narcissist, it won't be difficult. Maybe they'll show him what a real military parade looks like :)

awwww, he ain't getting tanks. First a rescued American says, "no thanks", now the Pentagon says, "no tanks". Chump can't even buy a break.
Joined: 3/6/2018
Msg: 28
nothing to look at here, folks. Just keep moving along, and buy a red hat
Posted: 3/10/2018 7:13:07 AM
Kushner? Does he have a personality? Any charisma? Geeze, he sure doesn't evidence any ability to do anything. And he will bring peace in the middle East? Lololo
Joined: 3/6/2018
Msg: 29
nothing to look at here, folks. Just keep moving along, and buy a red hat
Posted: 3/10/2018 7:24:29 AM
Can somebody give me some profile advice, I'm not getting very many hits these days. Blondee, you out there? Can you help out. Am I violating pod rules? Please promise me you don't turn me in to the FBI?
Joined: 10/14/2017
Msg: 30
nothing to look at here, folks. Just keep moving along, and buy a red hat
Posted: 3/10/2018 8:51:27 AM

it means...a reality TV star who fails to read his intelligence reports, denigrates their abilities, reveals intelligence sources, has meetings at his golf course with world leaders where anyone can watch and post photos of it on Facebook, asks the Russians to hack into our computers, and has a bare-bones State Dept to give him any about to face a man who kills his family members for sport.

Lol...Exactly...Trump is playing with people that "kill" people just because..and HE thinks he's a tough guy.
Looks like he is already back tracking on a meeting anyways.
Now....He will not travel there and he's doubling down on what HE expects to happen.

Don't count the chickens before they've hatched.

There was a brief moment....before the "thinkers" came in.
Joined: 6/27/2014
Msg: 31
nothing to look at here, folks. Just keep moving along, and buy a red hat
Posted: 3/10/2018 10:07:14 AM

Posted By: MachIMustangII
I do give Trump his due. This isn't the first time America has had light at the end of the tunnel when it comes to NK,

North Korea's goal was to build a nuke that could reach the United States and that has been accomplished... it's now time for Step 2 when Kim Jong Un play nice, become diplomatic and repair and replenish his country's economy

Posted By: MachIMustangII
As the SecState himself says, this is just a talk, not anything else.

imagine ...Trump is too scare to have a sit down with Muellar but yet would have no problem sitting down with someone known to kill their Generals and Relatives ....he should send Pence ...especially since Kim Jong Un's sister was sitting behind Pence during the Olympics and didn't kill him

Posted By: MachIMustangII
.NK has wanted to meet with a sitting president, be respected, end the war, etc for a long time now.

to Kim Jong Un having a nuke is respect
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 32
Trump accepts offer to meet Kim Jong Un
Posted: 3/10/2018 10:22:46 AM

^^^^^^What does that sentence you posted mean Jo?

Good question johnny.
-After all, what does anything "mean"?
(And does it all really matter anyway?)

Some look upon a "cross", and just see two pieces of wood, joined together,
some see a peice of coloured cloth, tied to a stick, others see a "flag"...
Some see the crescent, others see the whole of the moon, apparently....

So the simple answer to your question is; it's subjective, it means different things, to different people.
Having incompetent, irrational, and corrupt "leaders", usually "means" more instability, for everyone else.

I very-much doubt that N & S Korea simply tiring of 70 years of costly conflict had anything to do with trump calling him "fat".
- He's such a "great negotiator"

Trump would claim credit for anything which happens, anywhere in the world.
-He would claim credit for the sunrise every morning, if he thought he could get away with it.

He really is a very sill man, johnny, with a very silly family, openly flouting the "nepotism laws",
-which were put in place to safeguard against such idiots and dolts, being appointed to high government offices.
Most of them have left, having been exposed as completely incompetent.
I read somewhere that the only "original" "advisor" left, is his former golf caddy.

He had his own tv show, where he hired and fired a succession of other bumbling incompetents, who only ever spoke in "aspirational sound bites".
He knows that chaos brings "ratings", that why he "likes it".
He thinks that ratings= "success"

It's sad really, - it's like watching some tragic, real life "Truman Show".

-All he ever wanted was "respect", but he just can't seem to get any,
- mainly because he's just never been respectable .
Kim is his "mirror image", - they should get along famously.

The world will continue to rotate.
Joined: 12/13/2006
Msg: 33
Trump accepts offer to meet Kim Jong Un
Posted: 3/10/2018 12:08:24 PM
From elsewhere I blog, posted by a friend this morning:

The Saturday Quartz Daily Briefing typically has a long lead article analyzing an important issue. I think today's article is worth reposting:
Donald Trump’s meeting with Kim Jong-un is a greater concession than he likely understands—and a bigger risk. But why should the presence of two humans in a room have such high stakes?
The reason a US president has never met a North Korean leader is that the US and North Korea have been, and continue to be, at war. Since 1953, a ceasefire has made that conflict largely symbolic, with suffering limited to South Koreans killed in provocative strikes, and the North Koreans who suffer in a gulag state or die fleeing it.
In international diplomacy, the leader-to-leader meeting is the highest level of commitment available. No prior White House would send the president into a summit that has not been pre-scripted with guaranteed results. Should there be no agreement, there is no face-saving blame to be put on negotiators, and little room left for diplomacy. And while the White House says this meeting is not a negotiation, that only raises the question of what the president is even doing there.
To entice Trump, North Korea said it would suspend the nuclear and missile tests it uses to protest military exercises between the US and South Korea. For his part, Trump is likely to demand an end to the North’s nuclear program. Kim won’t surrender it without concessions, such as reductions in sanctions and an increase in aid. Ironically, this is the framework of the nuclear agreement with Iran that Trump has lambasted.
That Trump would contemplate offering compromises after years of criticizing them suggests that he has not contemplated much at all, a suspicion that accounts of his decision confirm (paywall). Meanwhile, South Korea’s dovish president, Moon Jae-in, is the prime mover behind the Trump-Kim connection. Putting his two spoiled, self-obsessed counterparts together is an extraordinary wager, motivated by impatience at decades of failure. The question is whether Trump will sit still long enough to learn what the US can offer in such talks, and what it shouldn’t.
True, it took Richard Nixon to go to China. But he only went after the groundwork had been laid.—Tim Fernholz
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 34
Trump accepts offer to meet Kim Jong Un
Posted: 3/10/2018 1:50:20 PM
Excellent points, Wooby!

There's two reasons Chump is doing this. One is the old reason--he's a president in order to enhance his brand. He wants to put this, too on his resume (assuming it happens). The second reason is his absolute need for a distraction. The White House is shedding employees like a dog sheds water, Stormy Daniels and Mueller are on the horizon.

"That Trump would contemplate offering compromises after years of criticizing them..."

>>>is terribly ironic. Chump and the Trumpanzees blasted the black man for his deal with Iran, but here's Chump about to pull the same exact thing...and surprise, they're already lauding him for it. But what contemplation could Chump have even done? He's alienated his intelligence structure, the State Dept. budget is cut, employment is cut, and they don't even do the programs they do get money for.

And here's more to chew on: we pulled out of the TPP, we just declared a trade war on our Pacific allies, and then later that day announce we're going to deal with their devil, North Korea. Why should they trust us and turn their back on China after all this?’s-unpredictability-on-trade-and-north-korea-opens-a-door-for-china/ar-BBK5uLT?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
Joined: 1/16/2018
Msg: 35
Trump accepts offer to meet Kim Jong Un
Posted: 3/10/2018 5:28:02 PM
Good job at deflecting jovann
Joined: 1/31/2011
Msg: 36
Trump accepts offer to meet Kim Jong Un
Posted: 3/10/2018 6:37:18 PM
Wobby, Great article on the state of affairs at the Department of State. The NK ambassador is quitting, State is decimated, and Tillerson doesn't give the same message as tRump. This is going to be another shyte-show for the administration and America...gawd fvcking dammit I can't stand all this winning.
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 37
Trump accepts offer to meet Kim Jong Un
Posted: 3/11/2018 5:07:13 AM

Good job at deflecting jovann

You're welcome.

-You've never answered a single question that I, or anyone else has asked you.

-For example, you keep bleating on about "FISA" warrants, and I asked you:
"WHY did Trump select so many people with Russian ties as his "advisors"?"

Carter page had already been the subject of at least one previous FISA warrant, in 2014, - two full years before trump's campaign.
He spoke fluent Russian, he'd worked in Russia, "for the kremlin", according to his own boasts, and was widely known, by previous "partners", (and the FBI) to hold very "pro-Putin views.
Here comes another question for YOU to answer, Johnny:
Why would the FBI NOT be investigating him?
Manafort was already working for the pro-Russian Ukrainians, but failed to declare it.
Flynn was already covertly meeting with Russians, to discuss the removal of sanctions, and the "magnitsky act", which had frozen the assets of various Russian "oligarchs".
-And Kushner was already "setting up a back channel", to circumvent scrutiny and regulations.
Trump was publicly begging the Russians to hack Hilary.
And boasted; two days before the planned meeting with the Russian lawyer, who had promised "all the dirt" on Hilary", as "part of the Russian government's ongoing support for the trump campaign", that he'd "reveal everything the clintons have been doing, probably next week".

This was all from the orange idiot's own BIG MOUTH

Here's another excerpt from Carter Page's wiki page:

In 1998, Page joined the Eurasia Group, a strategy consulting firm, but left three months later. In 2017, Eurasia Group president Ian Bremmer recalled on his Twitter feed that Page's strong pro-Russian stance was "not a good fit" for the firm and that Page was its "most wackadoodle" alumnus.[19] Stephen Sestanovich later described Page's foreign-policy views as having "an edgy Putinist resentment" and a sympathy to Russian leader Vladimir Putin's criticisms of the United States.[2] Over time, Page became increasingly critical of United States foreign policy toward Russia, and more supportive of Putin, with a United States official describing Page as "a brazen apologist for anything Moscow did".[4] Page is frequently quoted by Russian state television, where he is presented as a "famous American economist".[3] In 2013, Russian intelligence operatives attempted to recruit Page, and one described him as enthusiastic about business opportunities in Russia but an "idiot".[2][20] News accounts in 2017 indicated that because of these ties to Russia, Page had been the subject of a warrant pursuant to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) in 2014, at least two years earlier than was indicated in the stories concerning his role in the 2016 Presidential campaign of Donald Trump.[21][22]

Trump 2016 presidential campaign
Page served as a foreign policy adviser in Donald Trump's 2016 Presidential campaign.[23] In September 2016, U.S. intelligence officials investigated alleged contacts between Page and Russian officials subject to U.S. sanctions, including Igor Sechin, the president of state-run Russian oil conglomerate Rosneft.[4] After news reports began to appear describing Page's links to Russia and Putin's government, Page stepped down from his role in the Trump campaign.[1][24]

Just what is it, that you're struggling to understand

Back on topic:
This guy sums up my feelings about this, far more eloquently than I put it.

Will Donald Trump ever meet Kim Jong-un? It is a reasonable question, given the US leader’s changeable moods and the fact that the North Korean dictator has yet to issue an official invitation. Trump could barely contain his excitement last week after a South Korean delegation passed on Kim’s suggestion of a meeting by May. He appeared unannounced in the White House briefing room to tip off reporters that big news was about to break.

But Trump’s exhilaration was not about averting the nuclear Armageddon he himself so recently threatened. It was about his chance of securing a place in history as the man who “solved” the 70-year-old Korean conundrum. Trump saw a golden chance to posture as peacemaker before an admiring world. So without consulting his closest and better-informed advisers, he took Kim’s bait.

It would be wonderful if North Korea were to give up its nuclear weapons. It would be wonderful if the US did so, too. Neither occurrence is remotely likely in the foreseeable future. According to the South Koreans, Kim expressed commitment to denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula. But this is nothing new for Pyongyang. It made similar offers in 1985, 1992, 1994, 2005 and 2010. On each occasion, for a variety of reasons, the promises came to nothing.

Trump does not study history; indeed, he apparently does not read much at all. He does not understand that when North Korea talks about denuclearisation, it means, primarily, the removal from the region of the US nuclear weapons the regime finds so threatening. Washington has never given such an undertaking and there is zero sign it will do so in future. It demands nothing less than North Korea’s unilateral disarmament.

The deal offered to North Korea under the defunct six-party talks process, before it attained its current nuclear capabilities, involved the lifting of UN sanctions, security guarantees, economic aid and assistance with developing peaceful nuclear energy. These “normalisation” carrots will again be dangled if talks resume – but not the withdrawal of the American nuclear umbrella that ostensibly shields South Korea and Japan.

Yet the moment for such a deal has passed. It passed when Kim declared in November that North Korea had become a fully fledged nuclear weapons state with long-range missiles capable of hitting anywhere in the US. The game has fundamentally changed, a fact the Americans find hard to accept. It is fanciful to believe that Kim, after years of national striving and sacrifice, is suddenly prepared to surrender his newly perfected weapons in the absence of equivalent US actions. What he wants now is the recognition and security that possession of such weapons brings.

By luring the impulsive Trump into a high-profile summit, Kim has everything to gain. He will boost his prestige within North Korea’s ruling party and among the populace at large. The domestic propaganda dividend will be enormous. By dealing with a US president on equal terms, Kim will dishearten all those who hope for a progressive, democratic future in North Korea.

Most concerning of all, perhaps, a Trump-Kim summit, even if only symbolic, will legitimise North Korea’s status as a nuclear weapons state that the world’s most powerful nation must court and woo. The fateful lesson that Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi failed to learn, namely, that possession of nuclear weapons equals personal and regime survival, will be reinforced.

For all these reasons, more sensible people in the Trump administration are already rowing back. The White House now says North Korea must first make unspecified “concrete steps” before any summit takes place. The risk is that in compensating for Trump’s foolishness, US officials may go too far the other way and wreck the opening for dialogue painstakingly won by South Korea’s president, Moon Jae-in, through his Olympics diplomacy.

It is vitally important to talk to North Korea. More Trump grandstanding is not the way to do it.

In other words: Trump's a fvcking moron.
Have a nice Sunday.
 from site to sight
Joined: 11/30/2007
Msg: 38
Trump accepts offer to meet Kim Jong Un
Posted: 3/11/2018 7:33:39 AM

But Trump’s exhilaration was not about averting the nuclear Armageddon he himself so recently threatened. It was about his chance of securing a place in history as the man who “solved” the 70-year-old Korean conundrum.

Trump thinks meeting Kim Jong Un would give ammunition to his second most important goal in life. Because Trump is probably the most insecure president in history, he thinks the meeting would bolster his claim that he is the greatest president in history. He doesn't want to be considered as just an adequate president-which most people feel he would never achieve that status.

And, of course, the most important goal in Trump's life is making more money. You can never have enough billions. You never hear an extremely wealthy person say: "I have enough money to live comfortably for the rest of my life. So I won't try to make more money". Rich people think they will be impoverished if they don't make that next million/billion dollars-and that includes Trump. Trump is probably the greatest president in history-to make very rich people more rich. Everybody else is on their own.
Joined: 1/16/2018
Msg: 39
Trump accepts offer to meet Kim Jong Un
Posted: 3/11/2018 7:39:52 AM
Ahh jovann, lots of typing you do while you deflect deflect deflect
Joined: 10/14/2017
Msg: 40
Trump accepts offer to meet Kim Jong Un
Posted: 3/11/2018 7:52:32 AM
How is Jovan deflecting....He's actually very informative with his posts and he's on point.
Unlike you..with the but...but....but...Hillary did .. bullcrap. Repeat over and over
He's can't back up any of your phony comments.

News flash John...Infowars is not a real news source.
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 41
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Posted: 3/11/2018 7:52:54 AM
So why did Trump renew the whole FISA court wiretapping process?

Isn't he supposed to be draining the swamp? Removing government overreach?

The best evidence that there is nothing there is...the man who claims he was hurt by the process, renewed it. Even HE thinks it was above-board, the man who is willing to upset the apple cart anywhere he finds it. The non-politician populist, even he thinks its a good system enough to renew it to do to other people, what he claims it did to him.

"If you can't dazzle them with your intelligence, baffle them with your bullshit". Except after a while, the Republicans can't even baffle anymore--too much twisting means forgetting which direction to head in. That's the problem with lying, the truth always comes out.
Joined: 1/16/2018
Msg: 42
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Posted: 3/11/2018 7:59:53 AM
"But, I hope he does go, Kim has already executed his own uncle, and his brother."

Whiskey, this^^^^^^^^^ is what jovann said. You cool with that????
Joined: 10/14/2017
Msg: 43
Trump accepts offer to meet Kim Jong Un
Posted: 3/11/2018 8:13:02 AM
Cool with what? It's the truth...he does kill people for sport.
Just what are YOU referring? That Jovan wants Trump dead or if he goes he could be in jeopardy?
Although, I doubt Jovan could care less....but Trumps not known for his smarts.

If I was Trump...that should have been HIS first thought....don't you think?
He's call Kim Un some silly names and made lots of threats.
Instead of thinking he looks like the big shot.
Quit playing a goody two support this vile/stupid man.
Joined: 3/7/2018
Msg: 44
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Posted: 3/11/2018 8:14:15 AM
John...whataboutism Trump suggesting gun owners take out that okay? And yes, it's perfectly okay for a message board poster to laugh and maybe hope for the assassination of Trump. They are not running for President.

And to Blonde Angel the platinum blonde Kunt. Delete are a kunt, you were always a Kunt, you will always be a Kunt. You may be one of the few people on this board disliked more than me :-). The difference, I have a normal life in real life. I'm pretty sure your real life is the same person who has posted on this board forever...a woman seen by most people as a Kunt. Your welcome :-)
 from site to sight
Joined: 11/30/2007
Msg: 45
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Posted: 3/11/2018 8:37:10 AM
Maybe Trump should either bring along Kushner or have Kushner go alone to meet Kim Jong Un, since he did such a fantastic job of bringing peace to the middle east, between Israel and Palestine. LOL.
At least they're consistent in the White House-consistently incompetent.
Joined: 3/7/2018
Msg: 46
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Posted: 3/11/2018 8:55:43 AM
We have been failing in North Korea since the nk war. I give trump credit. He can't make things worse than they are. Obama ignored the problem,
Joined: 1/23/2018
Msg: 47
Trump accepts offer to meet Kim Jong Un
Posted: 3/11/2018 9:20:51 AM

At least they're consistent in the White House-consistently incompetent

 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 48
Trump accepts offer to meet Kim Jong Un
Posted: 3/11/2018 9:26:56 AM
I'm glad that someone "got" my cryptic "maybe the 2nd amendment people" homage.
Poor Johnny.
He's frightened by some words, what a snowflake!

-Just to put your poor little "mind" to rest Johnny;
I don't really think that N Korea(&/or "ChinA" -to be read in trump's silly voice) will try to assassinate Trump.
- Not while he's working for RUSSIA, anyway!

I watched his rabble-rousing "speech" last night, it was very late.
I noticed that he uses the same "dog-whistle" style of pronunciation whenever he says "the EU", or "the European Union", as he does whenever he says "ChinA" .
To whip the cheering, gun-crazy, hat-wearing, xenophobic dimwits in his audience, into a frenzy of hatred.

Still no words, and still no action from him on Russia.
No twitter-frenzy about the latest "terrorist" attack in the uk., , using "chemical weapons",
no mention that both the victim AND the suspected perpetrators might be "immigrants",
-presumably because they're "white", but more likely because they're RUSSIANS, (does that make them "White Russians"? -or is that just a c0cktail?
-and Putin wouldn't approve.

He'll dance to any tune which Putin tells him to, -as long as Putin has the PISS-TAPES!!

Back on topic:
This alleged "meeting" between him and Kim will never happen..
-there, I've said it.
There's been no formal offer from N Korea.
This is just more "Mexico will pay for the wall" bullshit, from the Lyin' Don.
This is more "that meeting was about adoption".
This is more "I don't talk to Russians, I don't know any Russians"
This is more "that woman's a liar".

You can't "negotiate" anything, with a man who will later deny even being there.

After watching him last night, I shudder to think what the world is coming to.
It's the power of advertising, and money, I suppose?
Too many calories, too little mental energy spent burning them up.

It saddened me to see so many clinically moronic people, cheering-on another moron.
Sensible Americans; you have my deepest sympathies.

Let's hope that the impeachment happens before he can do even more irreparable damage to both the USA., and the rest of the world.
Its Meuller Time, soon, I hope.
(Don't fret johnny, I said "hope" again, but often, my hopes remain unfulfilled :)
(- Unlike Hope Hicks, who's "white-lies-house" nickname was "airtight", apparently. Trump apparently told Lewanowski that he'd "never get a better piece of ass".
All the traitors "had Hope" )
Joined: 2/22/2018
Msg: 49
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Posted: 3/11/2018 9:39:32 AM
WELL......A tough talk on North Korea — The world expects not to happen the same thing that happened before..

By Benjamin Arie

The situation that President Trump is now dealing with is directly linked to Clinton and Carter. This time, however, there is no way left to delay the inevitable.

Thanks to Clinton’s dithering, Kim Jong Un now has nuclear weapons and the missile systems to deliver them.

Back in 1994, Clinton Instead of stopping the North Korean nuclear program when he had the chance, Clinton caved.

The result was a flimsy “agreement” which Kim Jong Il promptly ignored

“Then, according to former Pentagon officials, the U.S. military drew up plans to send cruise missiles and F-117 stealth fighters to strike a small nuclear reactor at Yongbyon, in order to prevent North Korea from recovering the raw material to make nuclear bombs,”
In other words, preemptive fire and fury, Clinton style.

“We demonstrated we were prepared to go down the military route if we needed to,” stated Robert Gallucci, a State Department official during the Clinton administration.

The mid-nineties plans to strike North Korea were far from theoretical. In fact, the military was just days away from pulling the trigger.

“We were within a day of making major additions to our troop deployments to Korea, and we were about to undertake an evacuation of American civilians from Korea,” former Defense Secretary William Perry revealed.

That plan would have sent 10,000 more troops to the conflict area, along with F-117 stealth aircraft intended to carry out airstrikes within enemy territory.

At the last minute, Washington received an unexpected phone call from the North Korean capitol.On the line was former PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER.


North Korea agreed to freeze its nuclear program in return for new nuclear reactors that don’t produce weapons-grade plutonium, along with oil to help meet its energy needs.

You read that right: The Clinton administration willingly agreed to hand over two nuclear reactors to the regime of a maniacal madman.

Unsurprisingly, North Korea simply ignored the agreement — who saw that coming? — and continued its nuclear weapons program in earnest.

In simple terms, Clinton kicked the can down the road for another administration to deal with in the future… just as he did with Osama bin Laden.

Trump is not the first president to talk tough on North Korea, but if the rogue state continues to defy the entire world, he may be forced to be the last.

Joined: 10/14/2017
Msg: 50
Trump accepts offer to meet Kim Jong Un
Posted: 3/11/2018 10:04:08 AM
I'll tell you now....It took N.Korea years to build a weapon that will supposedly reach the States.
This man will not DENUCLEARIZE anything. This is their only security against the threat of the States.
If Trump takes his word that he will...without any evidence/proof of them eliminating the arsenal.
And he still follows through and meets....He's a bigger fool than the others before him.
He's being played by Kim Un.....but he can't get past his ego....such an idiot.
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