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Do you mean Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" campaign hasn't prevented unexpected pregnancies among American girls? (lol). That was as effective as churches telling people to abstain from sex until after marriage, because God doesn't like people with loose morals. How dare people get any pleasure from having sex.
 Tech30
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Posted: 4/18/2018 2:31:55 PM
Yup, but all it takes is one mistake to make a baby. Condom breaks. Girl forgets to take a pill. A guy doesn't pull out on time. Medication interferes with the pill. Both get caught up in the heat of the moment and forget. One person is deceptive and pokes holes in a condom or lies about birth control. There's a hell of a lot of single moms everywhere. I suspect a large number of pregnancies result in deception on one person's part and just as many men as women are guilty of it. In many couples there is always one person who is more into the relationship than the other, someone who would be more likely to be dumped and devastated. Pregnancy can trap either person into a long term relationship which most always fails after a few years hence single moms everywhere. Single dads everywhere too but many walk away from the responsibility.

All i see are excuses. All I hear are excuses. Its not my fault. I couldnt help it. THere was nothing i could do. Its someone elses fault. Its somethings fault . It was an accident.

Be responsible. Stop making excuses. Stop pointing fingers .

You suspect....but in reality lots are from deception, lots are because women want the baby bonus, or one person wants to trap the other. Its all irresponsible selfish nonsense.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 4/18/2018 3:27:34 PM
We make big lifetime decisions early in life before we're prepared mentally to do that, though not making excuses for July. Just stating fact. Some people are better at it, some of it having to do with how we're raised and the tools we're given.
 Tech30
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Posted: 4/18/2018 4:28:38 PM
We dont.
Some people do
Some dont.
I didn't
I chose not to do a lot of things because i wasn't ready.
Things such as have a kid, get married, movie in with someone.
You aren't stating a fact. Some people even when young and stupid can realize when something is a bad idea.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 4/18/2018 4:54:34 PM
I did state some people are better at it.

I first married when I was 20. What stopped me from having kids was that I felt I had to see how the marriage was going first, but I also wanted to give us time as a couple to experience life together, enjoying it while unencumbered, while traveling and having fun. I wanted to save money first too. I put my marriage before the kids, but some people do it the other way.
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 4/18/2018 7:16:48 PM

Yup, but all it takes is one mistake to make a baby. Condom breaks. Girl forgets to take a pill. A guy doesn't pull out on time. Medication interferes with the pill. Both get caught up in the heat of the moment and forget.

A condom merely breaking won't do it (but will set one up to possibly carry it further)... and yeah, people can make mistakes. Yep. But they can also avoid them. Using a condom, like Bill Maher said -- with no kids and @60 -- is as reliable as a toaster. If you have a type of condom you use, and you have it down pat to use it -- you're not going to get anyone pregnant.

As said before -- excuses can be piled on to overblow and defend anything. Mine as well say ya won't ever fly a plane. :)

That said -- hey, you are higher-fertile, and let's face it... you're going to get porked by guys who's not your BF or going to be... and you're not on the pill, you're apt to get caught up in the heat of the moment -- and to be honest, yeah, it can be prevented, but that's not in your book so much .... so yeah, tubes-tied is a good idea.
 Tech30
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Posted: 4/19/2018 10:50:34 AM
I first married when I was 20. What stopped me from having kids was that I felt I had to see how the marriage was going first, but I also wanted to give us time as a couple to experience life together, enjoying it while unencumbered, while traveling and having fun. I wanted to save money first too. I put my marriage before the kids, but some people do it the other way.

Thats great you did it that way. That was my plan too.

But yes other people do it the other way around. And there are a lot of really stupid people on this planet. Stats show that the dumber ones are the ones that tend to procreate more unfortunately.
 fullmoonguy2
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Posted: 4/19/2018 10:58:00 AM

Some people are better at it,


Yes, we are.
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Posted: 4/21/2018 1:25:58 PM
- nagging - sometimes it's legitimate, sometimes it's not. Some women just have a poor attitude or don't love their husbands anymore and nag. Some guys nag too.

- Escorts and prostitutes will always lack one huge benefit - love
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 4/21/2018 2:03:21 PM

I first married when I was 20. What stopped me from having kids was that I felt I had to see how the marriage was going first, but I also wanted to give us time as a couple to experience life together, enjoying it while unencumbered, while traveling and having fun.

What, was it an arranged marriage? ;) No, I understand at 20 that's something to think about when in an LTR because you both are still changing as people -- but of course, it's a reason Not to get married so early.

But yes other people do it the other way around. And there are a lot of really stupid people on this planet.

IMO, the other way around is best. If you're married and still figuring out how your Relationship is going, you shouldn't have gotten married in the first place, right? :)
 Kissfromarose77
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Posted: 4/21/2018 4:50:34 PM

Escorts and prostitutes will always lack one huge benefit - love


That’s assuming that all men treat them like they’re disposable.

I texted an escort and asked her to give me an idea of a gift I could bring her when we met. Her response was, “Whatever ... and as you get to know me, you’ll get to know my preferences.” What she said assumed that she wanted to keep me as a regular client, not just a one time dinner date. I’m not so financially well-off that I could afford to do that. A lot of escort ads are also blatantly racist. They have no problem saying, “No black men.”
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 4/21/2018 7:42:25 PM
NG, you don't know how your marriage is going until you're in it and living together, and as you stated, people change.

Kiss, you want to bring a hooker a gift? She's probably thinking something very expensive and not like a box of candy or flowers. You do mean the gift to be something on top of paying her, right?
 Kissfromarose77
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Posted: 4/21/2018 8:31:15 PM
^^^ Not necessarily expensive for a tip. I wouldn’t call it hiring a “hooker” if sex is not involved - just for social time.

“A small gift can be a single red rose, her favorite perfume, a scented candle, souvenir from your country or a book you think she’ll enjoy reading.”

https://www.societyservice.com/blog/tipping-etiquette/
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 4/21/2018 8:43:27 PM
It's a hooker, whether you avail yourself of sex or not.

That site is a scam. You pay her, and you leave. If you want to start tipping and bringing her gifts to make HER experience good, which is laughable, then you are getting fleeced and should go back to regular dating. Talk about being used for money, that would be it. They're trying to groom you into overpaying the hooker.

They're making you think you have a relationship with her, another laughable thing, because she has a relationship with who knows how many other men so exactly what would that relationship be then? To groom men into thinking it's a real relationship, is just a marketing tool to make you come back to your supposedly hooker girlfriend, making believe she's a real gf. You must realize that this is a business, and they're trying to run it as a business and to get as much money from you as possible, the thing you said you wanted to avoid with dating non hooker women.
 Kissfromarose77
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Posted: 4/21/2018 8:54:27 PM
^^^ I don’t know if regular dating is cheaper. A lot of women also say they don’t like cheap guys. They expect men to always pay for dates, pay for engagement rings, spend a fortune on Valentine’s Day, take them on trips to exotic locations. The only thing that makes sense is for women to keep the price of dating them cheaper than hiring an escort.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 4/21/2018 9:06:26 PM
You're equating a girlfriend with a hooker, you can't do that price wise. A girlfriend will reciprocate all the time with phone calls and seeing you without having an appointment, and having to pay for everything. It's not the same experience at all. Not all women expect you to pay for dates, but if you did, they certainly don't have to be expensive and there doesn't have to be a cost at all. A hooker is not going to care about you, if that matters to you. A gf will eventually fall in love with you and want to make a life with you if it works out, that's not happening with the hooker.
 Kissfromarose77
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Posted: 4/21/2018 9:35:41 PM
That is a rarity these days that women actually care about men anyway, they don’t reciprocate, and they nag. I know from my last relationship. The majority of women on this site don’t say what they can offer a man in their profiles. They usually just say what they don’t want, e.g. no FFBs, no hookups, or what they do want, e.g. be tall, have a car, have a stable job. What’s in it for the men who date them? Every woman these days seems to think she’s a princess or a diva. There’s no male equivalent such as “king” on this site.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 4/21/2018 10:07:58 PM
You have that feeling, because you haven't met the right woman. Some people get lucky with that right away, mostly when we're younger when we put up less barriers. There's certainly nothing wrong with you or any other man to have a list for their wants. These physical wants like "height", that's a problem with OLD, everyone being judged physically.

A person should have a job unless they're retired or wealthy. They should have a car, unless they live within a large city where public transportation is good.

If feeling like a princesses means doing little things for her to show her you care, nothing wrong with that. As long as she meets your needs too. You're ready to meet the needs of a hooker that will never be anything more to you than $$$$. If you never want someone to love you, care about you or to do activities with, is supportive, and as daily/lifetime company, then maybe a hooker is your best route. For me, the things I mentioned have a lot of value.
 julystorm7
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Posted: 4/21/2018 11:06:39 PM
What does a person get from a good genuine relationship?

Companionship (having someone to share your moments with)
Friendship (someone to talk to)
Happiness (a person who can male you feel content by just being with you)
Entertainment (not being alone, having someone to talk to that interests you)
Support System (someone to help you or share the hard times with)
Physical Touch (and by this I don't mean sex, I mean the things like holding hands, resting against each other, kissing)
Financial Betterment (f you live together, you can share expenses)
Regular Sex

I am thinking you are a woman hater too. You don't trust them, you think they are narcissistic and annoying. So you want a woman who you can pay to do what you want. I feel bad for you.
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 4/22/2018 9:39:49 AM

NG, you don't know how your marriage is going until you're in it and living together, and as you stated, people change.

You mean how your Relationship is going. And yes, you Should know how your relationship is going Before getting hitched. Otherwise, one's a fool to get married (unless aiming for the arranged-marriage type thing, which if you culturally buy into it, I guess helps nix the foolishness aspect in some ways).

Which is why it's good to be living together Before you start thinking of ring-shopping. And also a good reason why not to get married at a young age -- because yes, people change a lot 18-24.

I wouldn’t call it hiring a “hooker” if sex is not involved - just for social time.

If sex is involved in what she does -- and chances are, Yes it is, then she is a hooker. Just because I go out on a date with a gal who is the "easy" one at the bar, and I choose for it to be just a quaint date on a Sunday afternoon of handshakes & lemonade, doesn't mean she's still not the "easy" one at the bar that gals sneer at. :)

I don’t know if regular dating is cheaper. A lot of women also say they don’t like cheap guys.

It is cheaper -- if you're just talking about dates. You're not only paying for the date with an escort, but you're also paying her to come out. Of course it's more $$. And it's not a real date -- it's role-playing of a date. Sure, you could repeat a gal over and over again and they could be real dates -- kind of like befriending a bartender (and still paying for your drinks)... but as you say, you're not looking for repeats.

Now just sex -- not going out, but meeting her at her hotel room for a porkfest... then yeah, it can be cheaper VS getting sex thru the dating route if you have a particular failure rate in the dating scene.

But why get an escort? I could see if you have a lot of $$, and, shoot, having a "why not" attitude to try it a few times to get your feet wet in the dating scene (rehersals) to break the ice to yourself being out 1-on-1 with a gal... but what I would do instead, which is cheaper + better: Befriend cute gals, not trying to get on them. Like, GO for the friend-zone. Takes the pressure off you, takes the pressure off her, and many gals like that. Not only can she give you some tips with females (don't take it as gospel truth tho), but you can go out 1-on-1 on Wed nights and such, for date-like situations but "we're just friends" at the end of the day. Which is what you're aiming for with an escort. Except these are actual friends + have female friends around that you can meet... and meat. :)
 Braylen99
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Posted: 4/22/2018 1:19:06 PM
Where I am at, $250 gets me a hummer and a sleepover.

I nuke my breakfast so she doesnt have to cook or clean like a traditional gf
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Posted: 4/22/2018 1:38:50 PM
They say that the period from 18 to 25 encompasses the biggest changes in your life. And I would say that is true, it certainly was true in my life. 25 to 30 was also a period of great change, not as great as 18 to 25, but still major. Since 30, I have changed relatively little. Some, of course, but nothing like when I was younger.

I advise all young people to live together before getting married. At least 6 months, preferably a year or more. I do realize that some young people have a family structure / religious believes / whatever that make living together without matrimony nigh impossible. But if it is possible, I highly recommend it.

There are those who will make the counter arugument, if you haven’t made the big commitment of marriage, you are more likely to walk away as a result of the first big fight. While there is some truth to that, my counter-counter argument is that people these days seem to have no qualms walking away, even if married.

And marriage sure as hell complicates things legally!

Am I opposed to marriage? No, not in general. I think for young people who are planning to have kids, marriage is a central part of that equation. I really do believe that kids should have 2 parents. Yes, I know there are people here who have raised kids on their own, and done a good job. I tip my hat to you.

But, even if you pulled it off, didn’t you wish 10,000 or 10,000,000 times that you had a partner to help?
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 4/22/2018 1:44:58 PM
NG, no, I meant you don't know how the marriage is going to go, so for me, I'd wait to have children.

With living together, I'm not sure it helps. Living together is still a new phenomenon in the last 30-40 years. Then living together for a long time isn't the answer. I think we all know people that lived together longer than they ended up being married.

I'll tell you what difference a marriage certificate makes. A certificate makes a person realize more that what they're experiencing with each other is forever, and then that becomes disturbing in relationships that should never have progressed to marriage. That's why people can be together for many years, then get divorced soon after marrying.

I've seen that scenario of relatively fast divorcing after long periods of living together. I know a couple right now that's divorcing after 7 years living together, barely married 3 years. Another recent divorce was a living together couple that were in college and wanted to wait thru that and getting on their feet financially. So 9 years living together, married about 2 years, then divorcing.

The OP has more going on than just wanting a hooker date. There's a dislike and distrust of women. I'm sure women everywhere would be thanking him if he used a pro, instead of trying to date them. But the funny thing is, he's complaining about spending money on a date and doing niceties for a woman but he fully wants to do that for a prostitute with paying her on top of taking her on a date where he's got to pay for her meal and then wants to bring her gifts too! So you can see, there's a lot more going on here. What a great way to show your disrespect for women by hiring a prostitute and paying her which is a belittling thing to do even though that's her profession. That is enjoyable for some men to be belittle women, and you can see that with some male posters in this forum.
 Kissfromarose77
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Posted: 4/22/2018 3:53:38 PM

I am thinking you are a woman hater too. You don't trust them, you think they are narcissistic and annoying. So you want a woman who you can pay to do what you want. I feel bad for you.


How many female profiles have you read and how many women have you dated? A lot of them do come off as narcissistic. It’s true that they only state what they want from men and not what they can give in return. At least where I am. I don’t hate all women, but I have had bad experiences with some. I need a certain kind of women. Until then, at least I won’t get emotionally hurt by an escort.
 Braylen99
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Posted: 4/22/2018 4:18:25 PM
^^^

Amen brother!
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