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 SiennaBear2
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 browneyesboo
Joined: 1/17/2018
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Posted: 4/2/2018 11:52:17 AM
I don't get all the hate for Mr. Pig.
I've seen him call out both men and women in here.
He's not into knighthood or princess complexes.
I think he expects everyone to act like human beings and
women should expect to be treated equally as befits their
actions and reactions.

I suspect IRL you'd know exactly where you stand with him.
I prefer that over a machiavellian any day.

But I guess we all have our list of people we say no thanks to.

And PS: I think it's pretty rude to call someone a "tranny"
under any circumstance.
 norwegianguy456
Joined: 6/11/2015
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Posted: 4/2/2018 12:06:45 PM


7. no one who can’t afford a meal out or expect a woman to go Dutch, I have old fashioned values and believe a man should always look after the lady, on nights out and weekends away, you get back what you put in, in other ways guys;-)
That is just wrong, and I am not going to go there. Now or ever. Yes, it is very often true, but it is NOT something you’re supposed to advertise.

I don't think it's very often true to that extent. I think if you were to ask women "I pay for all dates 100%, because I get back what I put in, in Other ways, if you catch my drift -- right?" -- they won't agree. :) And plus, it's a horse-pucky argument that isn't true -- unless you Are an escort/prostitute. Because that would require sex being a 1-way street For the guy, by her argument.

But if she is a prostitute is that any different than a woman having 3 dates paid for by the man and having sex or 5 maybe cost but it would be all the same sh!t.

Having sex after 1-5 dates, and the guy pays, doesn't make her a prostitute. It's when the gal sets the situation like she did in that quote, where sex is a one-way street For the guy -- in exchange for paying for everything For the gal -- yes, then it becomes = prostitution. It doesn't have to be in cash. Can be in gas cards, disposable credit cards, paying their rent, or taking them out & paying for dinners -- anything of monetary value, in exchange for sex.

The real POV many gals will have is that unlike that above profile quote, sex isn't a one-way street. It's just that the guy pays, because, well, he's the guy (and the dating market gives 'me' that)... so whether we hook up, go steady, or progress in any way, is just a separate issue besides that.

As for Henry's choice to "wine and dine", why would I care? If he shared stories of being repeatedly taken advantage of in the process without making changes, I would surely chime in.

Yeah, it's a different story between a guy wining & dining to just get the "chance" for a lady, then get frustrated because it never goes anywhere -- VS Henry's occasional situation where he admits he's only getting her company, but enjoys it.

My only debate with Henry on that is -- in the end, is it really worth it, if it's repeated more than once in a Great while? IMO, if a guy does that as Part of his routine, he better be getting some other type of 'return' on it... like "It's weird, but it helps motivate me To get real cute gals" or "It helps remind me that going for sub-par Sallys isn't worth it."
 ThePigOfYourDreams
Joined: 6/30/2017
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Posted: 4/2/2018 12:24:45 PM


I don't get all the hate for Mr. Pig.


They are the minority and don't really matter. As long as I have Boo-love in my life I'm good.


People on here messaging her as a direct result of this thread for one


Which they did on their own, not at his request, and wow, they messaged her. Oh, the horror. Someone call the po-po.
 Ladyinred0407
Joined: 2/6/2016
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Posted: 4/2/2018 12:25:19 PM

..............VS Henry's occasional situation where he admits he's only getting her company, but enjoys it.

My only debate with Henry on that is -- in the end, is it really worth it, if it's repeated more than once in a Great while?


LOL, I have never gotten the impression, ohenry suffers from extended dry spells. Ever. In fact I doubt he suffers........and what ever he does.............."it really is worth it".
 Arlo_Troutman
Joined: 6/16/2017
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Posted: 4/2/2018 12:34:04 PM


(AT) I'm guessing, based on the fact that the email generated a "Your message was successfully sent!", but later checking my "Sent" folder, it wasn't there.


(MeramecRiverRat) Sounds like she read your message, then blocked you. More dysfunction on her part. You let her know about something she probably wasn't aware (most users don't even know the forums exist), then she shot the messenger by blocking you.

If an email is no longer in your sent folder and you didn't delete it, the recipient blocked you or their account no longer exists or it expired after a month.

When a user deletes a message, it disappears in their inbox but not from the sender's outbox.


Why, that saucy wench!
 Arlo_Troutman
Joined: 6/16/2017
Msg: 107
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Posted: 4/2/2018 12:50:21 PM

(Wilbur) Furthermore, when I was perma-banned years ago, I had 32 forum violations, and every last one of them was from heated clashes with men.


Quite the little over-achiever!


(SiennaBear2) People on here messaging her as a direct result of this thread for one


I did that of my own volition, although you are correct -- it *IS* an impact on her life, and she may be horrified to come on here and see that NY58 has started a whispering campaign about her being a tranny, which seems to be slowly gathering steam.

Anyway, I thought it fair that she at least be offered the opportunity to tell her side of things. It's not my fault that she used my good-will message as Virtual Toilet-Paper... meh, she's probably a tranny, anyway...
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
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Posted: 4/2/2018 1:43:30 PM
I can understand the heat on pig, he's posted things that others would have been flamed over. And now I see he got deleted. But that's the problem with "Telling it like it is", some prefer a bit more gentle velvet glove and less anger. Meanwhile it looks like we're in another round of deletions again. Or is it Spring Cleaning?

whatever Henry is accomplishing or not accomplishing, as long as he's happy with it, that's all that matters. Not all fellows might want to do the same thing, judging from the feedback.

"Interesting what this post has morphed into."

>>>must be that last batch of snow in April that's landed on our lawns :) We're stir crazy.
 halcyon_skies
Joined: 7/27/2015
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Posted: 4/2/2018 2:14:10 PM

And PS: I think it's pretty rude to call someone a "tranny"
under any circumstance.


I agree. I didn't get the impression the woman was transgender. Except for her muscular arms and small hips (it's always possible that she's a bodybuilder), and the painted on Groucho Marx eyebrows, she looks like a woman to me.
 forumfairy
Joined: 3/20/2018
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Posted: 4/2/2018 2:16:55 PM

[ pig]Yeah, made evident by the overwhelming amount of support you've received so far.

Apparently, there was a little more support than someone expected.
 norwegianguy456
Joined: 6/11/2015
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Posted: 4/2/2018 2:22:07 PM

LOL, I have never gotten the impression, ohenry suffers from extended dry spells. Ever. In fact I doubt he suffers........and what ever he does.............."it really is worth it".

Oh, I wasn't saying/implying that he had dry spells. It was whether knowingly going out with a out-of-my-league lady was once in a Great while VS part of the routine. One can still be gaining successes in the dating field, going either route. As a side note, I would assume one who Doesn't get any success in the dating field -- would be more apt to gain something out of Knowingly taking out a gal in which it's just-for-company ("dating practice"). As you point out, that doesn't seem to apply to Henry, though.

whatever Henry is accomplishing or not accomplishing, as long as he's happy with it, that's all that matters.

Not to bring up this yesteryear "debate" (more like questioning) -- being happy/content with something in-the-now doesn't mean it's in your best interest. Hence, me questioning how often & why.

Analogy: 45 year old Bob goes out on Fri & Sat nights, and the occasional Thurs or Sun night. But every Fri night, he goes to the college bar sitting back, checking out the gals. And makes a few moves for conversation. Sure, he'd like to have a bit of a college dream, but he's not expecting it. He enjoys the visuals, and the occasional banter he may get out of it once in a while. My response? "Gee Bob, I can see doing that once in a good while and spending an hour or two there when the other places are kinda dead and that's hopping. But, every Friday? YOU would be happier going to x/y/z spot instead most of that time, unless there's something else I'm missing here."
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
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Posted: 4/2/2018 2:31:21 PM
A few years ago, I used to take a hottie to dinner. It was better than going alone to a restaurant, when we were still both single. Once she became someone's booty call, admittedly I wondered why I was paying for things (even tho it was cheap, it was the principle of such things--friends don't make me pay for everything). But in the end, it all worked out, she took me to some places. Is accompanying a pretty woman the same level of pleasure as putting on a condom and having sex with someone i'm not interested in? I think that is answered individually, and even then, at one time in our life we may prefer one and at another time, the other.

"being happy now, isn't in your best interest in the long run"

depends. If I was passing up an opportunity to have a deeper relationship with another woman, then I was investing wrongly. When the options are only slim or none, slim is...ok. just ok. Now, if someone wants to insist that the glass half full is good for them and good for me as well and questions my testosterone levels b/c I don't feel like working hard for a glass half full...then i'll ask for more details to see if "there's something else i'm missing here."

bob may be at that bar b/c he knows from experience, THAT is the best he's going to have. He's tried everywhere else, and decided he'd rather aim high and fail than settle for mediocrity. I don't mind him doing that, but the day Bob tries to browbeat me into it to, just so he can feel better about his choices....
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 4/2/2018 2:32:30 PM
It doesn't surprise me that people don't like pig. I mentioned reasons why no one may say anything to him in my previous post to him. Who knows, maybe he checked himself out temporarily. He certainly can return like everyone else does. The bad penny will return eventually.

Mustang, I have a male friend that likes to have someone pretty to have dinner with. That's what he enjoys, and he is happy to pay for it. No strings attached. On "The Talk" tv show, a question from an actor was, was he supposed to pay for a date he went on where he was asked if he wanted to go out to dinner and the girl picked the restaurant and made the reservations. It was split between that he should or that it would be nice if he did, while others say whoever asks pays. I feel whoever asks pays. She should have paid.
 julystorm7
Joined: 12/25/2017
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Posted: 4/2/2018 3:13:09 PM
Sometimes the feeling you get when you get excited for a person's next text or just meeting them for the first time is enough. The thrill of the unknown potential. Even though the disappointments are plenty, I feel a sense of happiness doing my hair, putting on nice jewellery and dressing nicely and driving to meet someone, wondering if there'll be a connection, despite the 95% disappointment rate. Not so long ago I was encompassed by this wave of hopelessness and sadness because I felt trapped in a bad relationship, not even thinking that one day there might be a chance at something better. Back in January it was so awesome getting to shop for new clothes and even underwear thinking maybe I'll get to show someone. Mayb, all that is paused for me right now but it fills me with a great deal of happiness knowing that it won't be forever. Looking forward to dating again one day. Such a world of difference from this time last year.
 Nyeahsers
Joined: 12/7/2017
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Posted: 4/2/2018 4:27:04 PM

It doesn't surprise me that people don't like pig. I mentioned reasons why no one may say anything to him in my previous post to him. Who knows, maybe he checked himself out temporarily. He certainly can return like everyone else does. The bad penny will return eventually.


It surprises me that anyone would be surprised. I highly doubt anyone is quivering in their boots saying "Oh no, he might call me a white knight". Shortly after I started posting here (again), he and Arlo went at it. I thought both have probably been around for quite some time and were just having fun. It seemed Arlo was. Ever since NY58 PMSed all over one of the other regular women here, he's been at her. Then he went at Sienna, and then, me. I have never flagged anyone in all my years. If I feel someone has to be flagged, they would already be gone. I considered Pig an asset here despite his childishness. He's straight to point and says what needs to be said. White Knights don't bother me but I'm glad he's trying to set them straight.

More on topic, I don't think she's a trans. She has quite the muscles but "feminine built". The OP should have known not to message her. Her reply, although rude and cold, was to be expected.
 ohenryx
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Posted: 4/2/2018 4:43:34 PM
This has definitely gotten more interesting. And in some ways, sillier.


NewYorker58
I don't see you going back at Henry for saying he's okay with purse carrying.

You just don’t get it, do you? As TPOYD pointed out, in message 101, “purse holder” is a euphemism. Look it up on urbandictionary.com, the second meaning:


Purse Holder
A guy that continuously takes a girl back no matter what she does to him.

He "holds her purse", waiting for her to come back.
"Aw man, look at that purse holder."
"I bet his girl is out looking for something better."

I know this, Pig knows this, I was joking around pretending to take the words literally, and he knew that as well. There was nothing to “get back at”, and we both knew it.


ohenryx
Yes, it is very often true


norwegianguy456
I don't think it's very often true to that extent.


I am going to retract my words, or at least modify my statement. I should not have said “very often true”. Maybe something like, “happens more often that most people would like to admit”. Yes, it does happen, but it is certainly not the majority of women behaving in that way.


norwegianguy456
My only debate with Henry on that is -- in the end, is it really worth it


Ladyinred0407
LOL, I have never gotten the impression, ohenry suffers from extended dry spells. Ever. In fact I doubt he suffers........and what ever he does.............."it really is worth it".

Thanks for the vote of confidence. I do suffer dry spells, just like everyone else, but yes, what I do is worth it, to me, or else I wouldn’t be doing it. Everything in life goes in cycles, great circles if you will. The older you get, the more you realize that.


MachIMustangII
whatever Henry is accomplishing or not accomplishing, as long as he's happy with it, that's all that matters. Not all fellows might want to do the same thing, judging from the feedback.


And on the subject of “wining and dining”, you have to remember that I am enjoying the experience, no matter the outcome at the end of the evening. Eating a very good meal, served by skilled wait staff, on a white table cloth, with the waiter cleaning the bread crumbs off the table between courses … And having the company of a beautiful woman across the table, especially if she has class and intelligence and can carry on an intelligent, witty conversation. The totality of that experience can sometimes be better than a happy ending.

At least if you get a “happy ending” often enough so that you’re not talking about “dry spells”. (LOL)
 blackbeauty744
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Posted: 4/2/2018 4:57:59 PM
I hope Pig comes back.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 4/2/2018 8:49:26 PM
Henry, you're missing my point. He looks down on men that cater to women, but doesn't say anything to you about that. I'm sure he thinks very little of you, but you can choose to believe what you want to. It's sad you and backcreek have assumed the role of unichs, keeping guard over......nothing, since he has no women.

I think everyone could clearly see he was stalking me. With that said, I won't be missing his presence. What kind of a man stalks a woman, someone that's not a real man. IRL, he would be slapped with a restraining order.
 mahwahgirl339114
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Posted: 4/2/2018 9:35:52 PM
Pig will be back. He has come and gone a number of times. He likes the attention... and we like to give it to him. :)
 Cynderella
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Posted: 4/2/2018 11:02:10 PM
This little piggy went to market and came back the big bad wolf.
Hurry back Mr.Wolf

NYer....I have "no comment" it might get me banned.
 RoxyMoronic
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Posted: 4/2/2018 11:43:03 PM
Julystorm msg 115
That’s a really lovely post.
You have so many positives going forward.
All the best :)
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 4/3/2018 12:09:27 AM
Cyndi, being you said nothing, why even address me? I have no idea what you're eluding to.

 Arlo_Troutman
Joined: 6/16/2017
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Posted: 4/3/2018 3:07:47 AM

(Newyorker58) Henry, you're missing my point. He looks down on men that cater to women ...


Feeling emboldened to talk smack about the temporarily-absent Wilbur, are you? That's not what he does, at all.

He, rightly, sneers and pokes fun at men who surrender their self-respect in order to "get" a girl, but fail most spectacularly; and who then employ *THE EXACT SAME STRATEGY OVER AND OVER*, having learned nothing from their experiences.

(*shrug*) Wilbur's most vocal critics are those who know he's right.


(Newyorker58) ... but doesn't say anything to you about that.


Because Henry doesn't tout his failures as success, and doesn't play the, "Woe is me! I'm a nice guy!" schtick.


(Newyorker58) I'm sure he thinks very little of you, but you can choose to believe what you want to. It's sad you and backcreek have assumed the role of unichs (sic), keeping guard over......nothing, since he has no women.


Trying to set Henry against Wilbur -- beneath contempt...


(Newyorker58) I think everyone could clearly see he was stalking me.


*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!* Wotta Drama Queen!
 imanorangetiger
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Posted: 4/3/2018 3:08:48 AM
Has anyone considered that the OP is a troll? If he is, five pages of arguments show that it did the trick.
 Arlo_Troutman
Joined: 6/16/2017
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Posted: 4/3/2018 3:16:33 AM

(imanorangetiger) Has anyone considered that the OP is a troll? If he is, five pages of arguments show that it did the trick.


Could be. What, if anything, do you think might have been the end-goal? Besides the entertainment, I mean...
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