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 NewYorker58
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I do that back and forth thing with writing on pof. I thought it was from my now using a tablet, but I see it happens with others.

Question, is there anything to flip over? He could be forced to if any info was found from getting his records confiscated. But, haven't others chosen prison time, like that Susan McDougal with that Whitewater mess? I could be wrong with what I'm saying, as I'm not politically savvy.
 Llove2LaughToo
Joined: 4/14/2018
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Posted: 4/19/2018 7:37:03 PM

Question, is there anything to flip over?


We will found out after the FBI go over the tape recordings, the possible bank fraud, campaign finance violations and other material they collected during the raid. Comrade Spanky is probably soiling his depends, he knows Michael Cohen knows where all the bodies are buried.

It is fascinating to me how conservatives like to complain when others accuse Comrade Spanky about things he did with pornstars ten years ago. In the same breath, they always bring up whataboutism from things that happened during the Whitewater investigation more than 25 years ago.

There is a huge difference between Susan McDougal and Michael Cohen. She was divorced from Jim McDougal, and I may be wrong, but I don't think she had any children from her marriage. There were also rumors she had an affair with Bill Clinton. Michael Cohen has been married for 23 years and have two children. I personally don't see him spending 20 years in prison and leaving his family behind to protect Comrade Spanky.
 halforhalfnot
Joined: 9/13/2016
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Posted: 4/19/2018 8:08:41 PM
The most important difference between Susan MacDougal and Cohen is that Susan refused to lie to stay out of jail. Cohen is already going to do time because he committed crimes; it's just a matter of how much time. And flipping on the bigger criminal can reduce that.
 dragonbytes
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Posted: 4/19/2018 9:23:19 PM

Everyone is predicting Trumps lawyer will flip on him.
But why wouldn't he just take his chances...if Trump can pardon him?


Trump can pardon cohen on federal charges, but not on state charges. So new york state can charge cohen.

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The good news for Cohen is that Trump could pardon him for violating federal campaign finance or banking laws, a step that would keep him out of the crosshairs of New York state prosecutors as well.

The bad news is that those same prosecutors could try to come after him for related crimes — and, if New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman gets his way, the original crimes too.

Some commentators argued that the early charges against Manafort, which didn’t reference as many potential crimes as many had expected, were a sign that Mueller was leaving the door open for state prosecution and avoiding the double jeopardy issue.

But if he gets his way, Schneiderman may soon be able to go after Cohen even more directly.

In a letter to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo and the Democratic and Republican leaders of the state House and Senate Wednesday, Schneiderman asked state lawmakers to pass legislation that would allow for prosecuting people on the state level for the exact crimes they were convicted of — and pardoned for — on the federal level.

That would mean modifying the state’s current double jeopardy provisions to ensure that someone like Cohen couldn’t evade state scrutiny after a federal pardon.


“Simply put,” Schneiderman wrote, under the current law “a defendant pardoned by the President for a serious Federal Crime could be freed from all accountability under federal and state criminal law.”

New York state Sen. Todd Kaminsky announced he’d be introducing a bill with a fix Thursday or Friday, though it’s unclear if, or when, it would make its way through New York’s fractious state government and be signed into law.

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/18/17252554/trump-cohen-new-york-state-laws
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 4/19/2018 9:44:25 PM
Love2, I'm not bringing up Whitewater for anything except to show how someone chose jail. Same thing happens with mobsters choosing to do time.

Half, with mobsters, you know how some of them get off completely by entering the witness protection program, even after murdering people, like with Sammy "the Bull" Gravano.

Dragon, interesting info. Kind of like suing and losing that happened with O.J., but still being able to sue civilly. Not exactly the same, but there's that 2nd option.
 Sandbyday
Joined: 7/25/2017
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Posted: 4/20/2018 12:24:33 PM
Comey's useful idiotness has already run it's course and begins a nosedive. That was quick.

http://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/384083-james-comeys-book-tour-is-all-about-truth-but-his-fbi-tenure-not-so
 HawkingJr
Joined: 4/16/2007
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Posted: 4/20/2018 1:42:27 PM
“Since when are lawyers thought of as people with standards?”

Many may not have standards, but you kind of expect them to have a good understanding of the law... since it is in their professional title.

“A narcissist sees themselves differently than others see them. Don't you think most politicians, especially presidents or wanna be presidents, have narcissistic traits?”

Not really sure what exactly this is in reference to, but I agree generally agree and have said such before – there’s a reason why Trump, Obama, Bush(es) and Clinton are presidents and we’re typing on a computer about them being presidents. Wanting that job is a mentality most of us don’t have, and to some degree you have to be quite self-confident and even full of yourselves. But I don’t necessarily agree with that on every person elected to political office. Some of them really are exactly the opposite, quite altruistic and sacrificing themselves to save the rest of us, because, as Trump is learning, elected office will destroy you as much as build you up. Had he never run for office, he probably would have taken Stormy and McDougal to his grave (since he can’t be living too much longer – just to clarify, that’s because he’s in his 70s and obviously unhealthy, despite what the future head of the VA is tying to claim, not for ANY OTHER REASON… for any SS guys that might be reading this).

“But why wouldn't he just take his chances...if Trump can pardon him?”

The New York attorney bringing state charges someone else brought up is a good idea to counter this, but I’m thinking more than anything else it’s a complication of timing – Trump can’t really pardon Cohen until he knows what Cohen’s being charged with, and Cohen probably won’t be charged until he’s already been squeezed to flip. It’s not like Trump can issue a blanket pardon for every single thing Cohen’s ever done (some might say, didn’t Ford do that for Nixon? Not exactly – Nixon was pardoned for everything related to Watergate). It would be a very unusual use of pardoning power to pardon someone before he’s even charged (again, Nixon being the obvious exception) – almost all other pardons have happened after sentencing and often after time served. That would look about as corrupt as possible: Trump pardoning people to keep them from testifying against him. And he hasn’t done it yet on Flynn, Papa or Gates, but then again, they don’t know anywhere near as much bad stuff as Cohen does, so this could be a completely different ball game. I don’t know if it would turn more mainstream GOP officials against him if Trump started doing that, but it would almost certainly assure Democrats would take over the House to put a check on the dictator wannabe.

Of course now we have Rosenstein assuring Trump he’s not a “target” in the Cohen investigation (or Mueller’s main investigation). I really think he’s just saying that to save his job so the investigations can continue. There is absolutely no way that Cohen is about to be indicted and Trump not involved in most of the crimes Cohen is going to be indicted for. And, ignoring the whole pardon mess, there’s no way Cohen doesn’t flip. Like Love2Laugh said, he’s looking at DOZENS of years away from his family. And he’s not even a Republican! Who even understands his supposed loyalty to Trump?
 ja6425
Joined: 1/16/2018
Msg: 33
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Posted: 4/20/2018 9:39:15 PM
More damning news for comey, and the democratic scandal. MCcabe is looking like he is in deep trouble.
 Llove2LaughToo
Joined: 4/14/2018
Msg: 34
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Posted: 4/20/2018 9:58:18 PM

MCcabe is looking like he is in deep trouble.


Put your money where your mouth is, and let's place a bet to see who is in real trouble and could face criminal charges, Cohen or McCabe.
 ja6425
Joined: 1/16/2018
Msg: 35
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Posted: 4/20/2018 10:10:48 PM
McCabe without a doubt. Some people need to hear the whole story but when they listen to liberal sponsored news, they will never hear it. But soon they will hear it whether they like it or not.

Poor corrupt hillary, no one likes her. Boo-hoo. The democratic scandal grows and grows.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 4/20/2018 10:50:20 PM
Today, the news was boasting breaking new revelations about Comey's memos, but nothing was new. The news loves to lead people around by the nose, which is nothing new. With all the crime in each of ours states, the news chooses what will be highlighted and what we will hear about, nationwide too. This makes people form opinions and feelings based on what they decide to report. For instance, if they reported all the rapes that occur every day starting tomorrow, everyone is going to be like what the fvck is going on with this upswing suddenly with rapes, but it's always been like that, they just choose not to focus on it.

Sexual Assault in the United States:

Somewhere in America, a woman is raped every 2 minutes.
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 37
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Posted: 4/21/2018 7:23:22 PM
shh, don't let the Klutz or Coma know...only men get oppressed and have to fear attacks.
 Jo van
Joined: 5/23/2009
Msg: 38
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Posted: 4/22/2018 5:52:10 AM

Sexual Assault in the United States:

19 allegations of some sort of sexual assault or inappropriate behaviour, committed by the president; the groper-in-chief.
He simply calls them ALL "liars:
He also supported Roy Moore, who used the same "defence"
If the people at the top of your society are committing these crimes, and simply getting away with it, because of their power and influence, what "message" does that send to all the other, more "ordinary" potential rapists and molestors??
The "grab them by the pvssy" tape showed what trump thinks about women, and his ownership and "entitlement" to the lecherous invasions of privacy in the changing rooms of teenage girls in his pageants, and his repeated boasting about that on tv., his references to his own daughter as a "piece of ass", and his use of prostitutes and porn stars, or Putin telling him "we have the most beautiful hookers", really doesn't set a very good example.


Somewhere in America, a woman is raped every 2 minutes.

That's terrible.
The poor woman must be exhausted.....
-Has she thought of moving?

The "pardoning" question is interesting, and makes my head hurt.
-There's the federal vs state aspect, mentioned above, and the "double jeopardy" thing,
But there's also the timing aspect.
If he doesn't "flip", because he's hoping (or already been "assured"?) that Trump will simply pardon him, then he's likely looking at a long sentence.
Trump is asking him to "trust me". -He's asking him to jump into the shark-infested water, without a life-jacket, and trump will throw one to him.
But he wouldn't be able to do that at all, if he gets impeached.
It really all depends on what the files and recordings reveal.
If there's already enough evidence there to also convict Trump, then maybe they don't need him to "flip"?

Trump's latest twits make it sound like he's shitting himself that cohen will flip.
-He's already talking about him "making up stories" just in case he does.
He intends to completely deny everything.
Like he does with all his sexual assault allegations,
or trump university,
or the "crooked press" who reported his on various bankruptcies and the collapse of the Taj Mahal.
Trump thinks that "nobody can prove anything".
And if he just keeps denying, and calling everybody "liars", and making up names to undermine their credibility, and "assassinate their characters", he can just brush everything off.
He's lied all his life, and he thinks that's why he's "so successful".
Trump thinks that the key to success is to lie better than the next guy.

It all reflects very badly on America, as a nation.
Just as Putin's nefarious past (and present?) history (unfairly) reflects on the entire Russian population.
He's "the face" of your country, and he's drooling.

Have a pleasant day.
 from site to sight
Joined: 11/30/2007
Msg: 39
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Posted: 4/22/2018 6:46:27 AM

19 allegations of some sort of sexual assault or inappropriate behaviour, committed by the president; the groper-in-chief.


What happened to Trump's threat-that has going to sue them all after the election? It's funny how he chickened out of that, after all of the other allegations inappropriate behavior.
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 40
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Posted: 4/22/2018 11:35:24 AM
wouldn't it be ironic, instead of asking the victim's sexual history and using it against her, its the accuser who gets under the spotlight....
 ja6425
Joined: 1/16/2018
Msg: 41
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Posted: 4/22/2018 5:36:36 PM
Dan Bongino: John Brennan 'in a World of Trouble' Over Dossier

Former CIA Director John Brennan is in a "world of trouble" over statements he has made concerning British spy Christopher Steele's dossier linking President Donald Trump to Russia, former Secret Service agent Dan Bongino said Monday.

"My sources on this are telling me John Brennan is in a world of trouble right now," Bongino told Fox News' "Fox & Friends."


"Back in August of 2016 he gives a private briefing to Sen. Harry Reid, Democrat, of course. He gives that briefing to Reid. Reid fires off a letter to the FBI. In that letter is information that clearly came from the dossier."

That means, at that point, Brennan was aware of the dossier, but in May of 2017, under oath, he denied knowing who commissioned it, said Bongino, a frequent Fox News commentator and owner of "The Dan Bongino Show" podcast.

"The CIA has a central role in the verification of foreign assets and information we get from foreign assets," Bongino said. "It is not plausibly deniable that John Brennan did not know who commissioned that dossier he is in a world of trouble because he raised his right hand and he said the exact opposite."


Bongino's comments came in response to a question about an article by investigative reporter Paul Sperry, who writes for RealClearInvestigations that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes has aimed his next investigation into Brennan and other key intelligence officials from former President Barack Obama's administration.


Sperry points out the May 2017 testimony, when Brennan denied the dossier played a large part in the intelligence community's conclusion Russia had meddled in the 2016 presidential election to "help Trump's chances of victory."

Nunes is expected to release a report detailing how the Obama State Department allegedly had a role in creating the anti-Trump dossier and disseminating it. The report will also identify diplomats, appointed by Obama, who allegedly worked with operatives close to Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton to help Steele with the dossier.

Bongino also accused Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., the top-ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee of being a "snake."


"He is the biggest fraud on Capitol Hill right now," Bongino said. "Adam Schiff is doing the Democrats' dirty work in trying to cover up."

The problem is, she continued, the "Obama team spied on the Trump team."

"The liberals have married themselves to years to this facade that they are civil liberty advocates," he said. "That's gone now. That's completely gone. They will be police state advocates from this point on.

"When the public learns the true story of the extent of the Obama team spying on the Trump team, it will decimate the liberal brand forever."
 Forereels
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Posted: 4/22/2018 5:48:22 PM
I listen to all of Dan's podcasts on Youtube. You have to follow closely, but they are good!!
Here's a channel of a Bernie fan who calls out the corruption of the DNC and Hillary,

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDB5XReUyyqt-FTNdkzFN-A/videos
 ja6425
Joined: 1/16/2018
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Posted: 4/22/2018 6:00:39 PM
"You have to follow closely, but they are good!!"

^^^^^^^^You do have to follow closely and listen to all of them because there are a lot of "moving parts" in this democratic scandal, lots of names to remember and how they are connected. You won't hear this on liberal media, you won't hear facts!
 daynadaze
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Posted: 4/22/2018 6:45:02 PM
Shouldn't we all be paying attention to real scandals from all corrupt politicians?
 ja6425
Joined: 1/16/2018
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Posted: 4/22/2018 7:25:33 PM
Dayna, this thread is about Comey and the previous posts pertain to Comey.
 Llove2LaughToo
Joined: 4/14/2018
Msg: 46
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Posted: 4/22/2018 8:44:13 PM

this thread is about Comey and the previous posts pertain to Comey.


I noticed you have been silent after republicans in congress demanded Comey memos, and they immediately leaked them to the press. Obviously they tried to embarrass Comey, and it backfire on them.
 ja6425
Joined: 1/16/2018
Msg: 47
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Posted: 4/22/2018 8:50:27 PM
I see ^^^^^ you haven't a clue about what is known by the posts myself and the other poster posted about evidence on this democratic scandal. You are scared now, you just do not want to hear it. You and Dayna and others want proof but you will not go to where that is. Good job Ll, you failed once again. You kids don't want proof, you can't handle the truth!!!

The liberal playbook, deflecting when they see that they are guilty.
 Llove2LaughToo
Joined: 4/14/2018
Msg: 48
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Posted: 4/22/2018 9:11:46 PM

I see ^^^^^ you haven't a clue about what is known by the posts myself and the other poster posted about evidence on this democratic scandal. You are scared now, you just do not want to hear it. You and Dayna and others want proof but you will not go to where that is. Good job Ll, you failed once again. You kids don't want proof, you can't handle the truth!!!

The liberal playbook, deflecting when they see that they are guilty.


Actually, you are the one deflecting, again. No wonder you are the Deflection King.

As you said in your previous comment, this thread and the previous comments are about Comey. Why are you trying to deflect to a Sean Hannity/FauxNews imaginary democratic scandal?
 ja6425
Joined: 1/16/2018
Msg: 49
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Posted: 4/22/2018 9:28:54 PM
Ll, this isn't about Hannity, you deflect so well. Read the post about Dan Bongino, listen to his over 70 podcasts which explain in detail the democratic scandal and after you listen to all over 70 podcasts, then come back to me and refute. PLEASE!!!!!! But you won't because you can't. You and Dayna and others want sources, now ya got em. Please get back to me on this after reading my source. I know you won't, you will come up with another deflection. You liberals are so easy to show how you deflect. I know, it is sad that this democratic scandal happened.
 Llove2LaughToo
Joined: 4/14/2018
Msg: 50
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Posted: 4/22/2018 10:04:39 PM

Read the post about Dan Bongino, listen to his over 70 podcasts which explain in detail the democratic scandal and after you listen to all over 70 podcasts, then come back to me and refute. PLEASE!!!!!! But you won't because you can't. You and Dayna and others want sources, now ya got em. Please get back to me on this after reading my source.....


Who is deflecting, again? Tell me what Dan Bongino and 70 podcasts have to do with James Comey.....
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