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 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 76
Tits the first thing i noticed about youPage 4 of 6    (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6)
nice women want to date nice guys, b/c they want to be treated the way they treat their own selves. the problem is the nice guy hoping to get laid, is probably not going to wait long. He's after the woman he thinks sleeps around, thinking she does it b/c she's easy and he doesn't have to court her much. what he may eventually figure out is, she keeps sleeping with the same type of male...and he's not that type.

she isn't easy, she has a type. its just not a good, or logical, type.

"So, a person's entire existence is defined by a username because BAH GAWD, you know a person inside and out based on a word."

>>>as I mentioned in the biker chick post...if you, individually think someone is a bad fit for you individually, you are probably correct. and you may very well be a bad fit for them.
 julystorm7
Joined: 12/25/2017
Msg: 77
Tits the first thing i noticed about you
Posted: 5/3/2018 3:23:47 PM
Let's get this straight. Most women want nice guys. There's not a woman in the world who says to herself, "I hope I end up with a jerk who treats me like crap." or "I hope I can get an unemployed, lazy guy" or "I hope I get a guy who dropped out of school and has a criminal record." or "I hope I get a guy who has a history of cheating on women and will also cheat on me". So just why may a nice guy get rejected by your average woman? Here's some possibilities:

1) The nice guy is not good-looking - Yup, this one's shallow but it's probably the #1 answer of why good guys don't get the girl.

2) The nice guy lacks passion/romance - In a nutshell, the guy is boring. He doesn't seem to have a romantic bone in his body. There doesn't seem to be anything he's passionate about that's interesting to the girl.

3) The nice guy is broke or lacks earning potential - Yes, this is another shallow reason but it holds true. If a nice guy has a poorly-paying job, lives with his parents or in a tiny apartment with a roomate and doesn't seem to have the desire to make more money, a woman, particularly a woman past the age of 25, might not want to date him.

4) The nice guy is too nice - This one is fairly common. Many women do not want to date a doormat. They want someone to act the part of the man and be a little firm and in charge. Feminism be damned. Women want a man who has a strong will.

5) The nice guy doesn't pursue the woman - A lot of nice guys remain invisible. They either lack confidence to pursue a woman or they lack the knowledge in how to pursue a woman. Many of these nice guys twiddle their thumbs and hopes the girl finally sees them. Or they don't make the right moves at the right time, they miss their opportunity because they don't want to seem pushy and meanwhile another guy beats them to the punch.

Now, if you look at the above 5 things and think about bad boys, you will realize why women often go for the bad guy. Either the bad guy is exciting, has some abilities at romance and is passionate about things. He's definitely not too nice or a pushover and he will pursue the woman. Many women don't realize a bad boy is a bad boy till they are into a relationship with him.
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 78
acting like a b00b
Posted: 5/3/2018 3:49:00 PM
I'll agree to most of the above, and just tack on some details.

only a woman with issues, wants her low self esteem proven by poor treatment. Of course, some humans don't know what good treatment really is, simply b/c they don't provide it to other people. And yes, some nice guys are nice b/c they don't get far in society on their looks, so they win people over with their deeds. As for lacking passion, that's one a lot of us nice guys screw up--we're too much a gentleman, and a nice woman doesn't want the role of throwing herself at a man. they want to be, y'know, seduced, like they read about in novels. But we live in the MeToo age. welcome to modern frustration, unless you learn to read body language and realize when you're getting the "come hither" signals. and there's a diff between being nice and kissing her ass. Raise your hand if you don't understand, and Uncle Piggy will be along to explain.

I did enjoy the part about nice guys not making a move. My late sainted mother, former cheerleader, told me to never be afraid to ask out the hotties, since so few men had the guts to do so. Sounded right in a Freakanomics way, so I spent my childhood fearlessly asking them out. They all told me they were taken, and the ones who wanted me as a friend...showed me it was true. sometimes even the squeaky wheel doesn't get its hub greased. but hey, while you're still young, beat your head against the wall. Its still better to hear a no, than to sit around kicking yourself b/c you never did find out if you had a chance or not. I learned what league I am in, and I don't regret that (Came in handy today, had lunch and the waitress, oh my, let's say she's going to have to have reduction surgery soon to avoid lower back troubles. or make a wad of money in the escort industry. but I knew not to embarrass myself by asking her out. that made lunch simpler).

bad boys make a move, they seem to be confident, and we've discussed what confidence looks like when its attached to a physically attractive person. even girls who shot me down, half the time were still willing to converse with me any time afterward. not b/c I was anything close to a BB, but just b/c I had confidence to ask politely. and the rest of the girls, well, they'd freak out over anything, so I won't blame myself :)
 MsMicki
Joined: 10/2/2006
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acting like a b00b
Posted: 5/3/2018 4:38:42 PM

but I knew not to embarrass myself by asking her out. that made lunch simpler


and confidence flew out the window!!!
Can't score if you don't shoot!!

Maybe it was being raised a go getter country gal....but if someone peaks my interest....I flirt!!
Strike up a conversation, make a silly joke....break the ice!!

People really do need to learn how to relate to people again....
Amazing how many people have "internet" balls....but no "real life" balls these days!!
 fullmoonguy2
Joined: 6/14/2017
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Tits the first thing i noticed about you
Posted: 5/4/2018 11:11:40 AM

Many women don't realize a bad boy is a bad boy till they are into a relationship with him.


Yeah, those rose-colored glasses can be a hindrance, alright.


Now, if you look at the above 5 things and think about bad boys, you will realize why women often go for the bad guy.


Yes, they are settling and making a poor decision they will later regret.
 SS4544Spd
Joined: 8/31/2016
Msg: 81
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Tits the first thing i noticed about you
Posted: 5/4/2018 7:34:11 PM
Julystorm wrote:
Let's get this straight. Most women want nice guys. There's not a woman in the world who says to herself, "I hope I end up with a jerk who treats me like crap." or "I hope I can get an unemployed, lazy guy" or "I hope I get a guy who dropped out of school and has a criminal record." or "I hope I get a guy who has a history of cheating on women and will also cheat on me". So just why may a nice guy get rejected by your average woman? Here's some possibilities:
That's probably the best "nice guy" explanation I've seen here from a woman's pov. Damn. Men who have the "nice guy" complaint should print that post out, put it in their wallet, and pull it out (since they're not pulling anything else out) and review it once a day. And figure out how to break out the "nice guy" pattern.
 siisaa
Joined: 8/6/2017
Msg: 82
Attractive Qualities
Posted: 5/10/2018 11:56:45 PM

2) The nice guy lacks passion/romance - In a nutshell, the guy is boring. He doesn't seem to have a romantic bone in his body. There doesn't seem to be anything he's passionate about that's interesting to the girl.


Passion is a huge draw. I mentioned that in my original post about the girl who is obviously passionate about singing & making music and it shows during her performances, hence making her more attractive. Lack of passion is a turn-off. It's a complaint I hear from many men that women with no hobbies/passions are not to be taken seriously, especially if her "hobbies" include gossiping, reality-TV and social media.

The thing about highly passionate people is they are often rare to come by unless you share the same passions. Otherwise, they're going to be out doing what they're passionate about and not perusing dating sites.
 feirene
Joined: 1/3/2017
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Tits haha
Posted: 5/11/2018 9:08:38 AM


If a guy has nice or genuine in his name or on his profile i pass.



So, a person's entire existence is defined by a username because BAH GAWD, you know a person inside and out based on a word.

So many of you are completely oblivious to your self-sabotaging ways. It's pitiful


I've been single about 4 years, and was highly sociable for about 3 of those. I am able to correlate data and so i make my choices based on past experiences.
 2ufo
Joined: 12/25/2017
Msg: 84
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Tits haha
Posted: 5/11/2018 12:09:35 PM
^^^
Barring lack of experience (when someone might actually research facts -- hopefully NOT believing everything they read)....
Everyone does.
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 85
acting like a b00b
Posted: 5/11/2018 2:50:41 PM
"can't shoot if y0u don't score"

>>I get the sentiment, I truly do. But I've asked out women most of my life, so I can guess closely when i'm wasting my time...and yes, my mommy did teach me to not bother girls. Innocent flirting is ok with women who confident about it, but a waitress built like this one has enough attention in a day.

"people do need to learn how to relate to people again"

>>>yes and no...today, I'm in a mood that says, "if you can read me, and read that I feel like being left alone...please do so." The waitress--upon reflection--was just having a day at work, and having another guy hitting on her, I don't think was going to make her workday better. I don't mean that to sound like a pity party. If I got more favorable reactions growing up, then i'd know women wouldn't mind me flirting with them. I think we men should read signals from a woman first, and decide then whether to grace her with our...selves, or just conduct business and keep it formal.

"It's a complaint I hear from many men that women with no hobbies/passions are not to be taken seriously."

>>>label me the male chauvinist, but a woman who doesn't offer passion or hobbies or intelligence or much else...seems to only offer sex as something interesting. I've known some hotties who would have not gotten the attention they got in life...if they hadn't been so hot. Personality wise...they were as average as anyone else. What likely makes us unique, is our intelligence, or our passion, or our creativity, or our compassion for others. other qualities, we can find in other humans.
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
Msg: 86
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Things that bulge
Posted: 5/11/2018 4:14:07 PM
Siisa, I'm also attracted to people with a passion too, especially ones that I share, and if the person is good at it, like photography, birding, outdoor stuff. When I'm dating again, I'll join groups for those things, which have a lot of men in them. I'd rather do that than meet random men while I'm out and about.

Mustang, who are you hitting on? Would you describe them as out of your league?
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 87
Battling the bulge
Posted: 5/11/2018 5:02:21 PM
I didn't hit on her b/c she was definitely out of my league. But nice to admire when she wasn't looking :) Younger than I, petite build with breasts large enough to cause back issues sometime in her life, and not giving me any vibe that I was anything more than just another customer. the kind of figure where you actually don't worry about personality so much--b/c some women are worth being a fool over (which is not the same as being the guy who doesn't take no for an answer, natch).

A sexy, feminine figure that makes men who declare they'll never put a woman on a pedestal...totally forget their stupid rule and be so distracted they don't even recognize they're breaking it to chase her. A curvy shapely figure that guys who say, "there's no such thing as a 10" treat her like she's a 10. The women who never sings, "treat me like i'm the only girl in the world" b/c guys already do.

Sometimes in life, you see something so attractive, its enough to know that something that beautiful exists. Like maybe you see an awesome car or a beautiful rose garden or whatever, and you aren't jealous someone else owns it, you're just glad you saw it.

as for the rest of us not genetically perfect on the outside, there is always passion. There a variety of ways to woo the spring robin. if the species could be attractive in only one way...the species would lack the variety it needs to evolve into something better.
 ChorusAurora
Joined: 4/2/2018
Msg: 88
Battling the bulge
Posted: 5/11/2018 5:18:25 PM
^^^maybe just find a nice ordinary interesting woman and buy her some great boobs...
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
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Battling the bulge
Posted: 5/11/2018 5:30:11 PM
^^^^^great idea☺
 LetitiaLeGrande
Joined: 3/22/2015
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Battling the bulge
Posted: 5/11/2018 7:05:06 PM
offering to buy a woman boobs can be fraught with hazard. Most of us want to be valued for ourselves and not some silicon implants. However women often want to have bigger boobs and have someone pay for them, I guess is a bonus. I wonder how men would feel if a woman was suggest he get a penile implant?
 Teadrip
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 91
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Battling the bulge
Posted: 5/11/2018 8:37:14 PM
all the so called qualities that were listed by various people are a bonus...the first thing most if not all look at is, physical attractiveness...if you don't pass that smell test, no one will bother finding out what all of the other wonderful qualities you have.
get into a room full of people and take note where your wandering eye will go first, or who would you really want to sit at your table..
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
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Touch my bulge
Posted: 5/11/2018 10:37:25 PM
Letitia, I think Mustang would probably worry she would get her implants and run👢

Tea, I think the topic is about "qualities" other than looks.

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 Teadrip
Joined: 3/29/2018
Msg: 93
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Touch my bulge
Posted: 5/11/2018 11:55:51 PM
the qualities are a bonus as i said...but they would apply more to the couples already established, and those who are friends...these wonderful qualities will not fly on a dating site with people looking at the profiles...despite how many times one says i'm sincere, i will not move them unless they are attracted to the photo.
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 94
mind the speed bump
Posted: 5/12/2018 6:25:20 AM
I know earlier implants had health issues (leakage etc) and they are probably better now. But adding that top weight to a frame not genetically designed for it (probably why when we gain weight, it ends up lower in our body?), that might not be fair. and NY nailed it, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if I bought 'em, she'd run and use them to get a better looking man :) I mean, why not, right?

Women ( b/c I don't chase men ) can be attractive or unique in a variety of ways. Just like different cars can be attractive to me for a variety of reasons. A bombshell broad with a brick outhouse bod, is unique b/c such genetic creation doesn't happen often. Its not like skin or eye colour or some ethnic characteristic. It could be something cultural--England may look at "gingers" differently than America views redheads (and perhaps women look at red-headed boys differently than society views red-headed girls). A personality dependent on how a person was raised can be unique--we don't see many tomboys, for example.

I don't know about the rest of y'all (I could guess, but that's not fair), but I've worked with plenty of physically-attractive women who grew up knowing their affect on men, and didn't bother to develop their personality much. or in some cases, probably didn't have one to develop. A porn star body can cover a multitude of sins. But to get back to the topic, even if a human being doesn't have a god-like figure, doesn't mean their procreation odds are small. unlike other animals, we can focus on personality rather than biological, maybe b/c we spend more years with our offspring, so a bubble headed bubble butted blonde gets annoying after 18 years.

"the qualities are a bonus as i said...but they would apply more to the couples already established, and those who are friends...these wonderful qualities will not fly on a dating site with people looking at the profiles...despite how many times one says i'm sincere, i will not move them unless they are attracted to the photo."

>>>valid point. for many humans, OLD is a visual thing.
 Kissfromarose77
Joined: 4/2/2018
Msg: 95
mind the speed bump
Posted: 5/12/2018 12:04:00 PM

The nice guy is broke or lacks earning potential - Yes, this is another shallow reason but it holds true. If a nice guy has a poorly-paying job, lives with his parents or in a tiny apartment with a roomate and doesn't seem to have the desire to make more money, a woman, particularly a woman past the age of 25, might not want to date him.


I see so many posts referring to broke guys who can’t get a date. For every guy with a poorly paying job there must a woman with a poorly paying job - perhaps even more women because men on average make more money than women. Why can’t people date their financial equals? Is it because men are supposed to be providers? As I’ve said numerous times before women have also been providers throughout history. Women were the gatherers who didn’t n some cases gathered up to 80% of the food.
 flbl60
Joined: 4/22/2011
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Tits the first thing i noticed about you
Posted: 5/13/2018 3:49:23 PM
He doesn't seem to have a romantic bone in his body


Basic Dating Anatomy:

The ROMANTIC Bone is connected to the KISSING Bone and the KISSING Bone is connected to LOVING All Night Long; Its a lot of fun and you are not Alone,,,, The LOVING Bone connected to the ROMANTIC Bone.

Fundamental Dating Anatomy.
 reverendswine
Joined: 4/14/2018
Msg: 97
Tits the first thing i noticed about you
Posted: 5/13/2018 9:35:23 PM
Finding a woman attractive and wanting to pursue her isn't pedestalizing. The second a man starts acting inferior, looking up at her as opposed to eye to eye, is when he is pedestalizing.

Any man who believes quality women find the "I'm not worthy, your highness!" lovesick galoot approach attractive is in for a rude awakening. I bought into that bullshit in my early teens via the crap advice from the women in my family.

Luckily, my uncle intervened and saved me from it. As a result, I began to experience what it's like to be the hunted rather than the hunter.

I initially fought him tooth and nail on the matter, then asked myself why I was listening to women who always ended up with men who were the sheer antithesis of what they claimed I needed to be instead of the man who practiced what he preached and produced results on an epic scale
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 98
yeah, i'll give ya a romantic bone
Posted: 5/13/2018 10:05:41 PM
i'll take a WAG that more than a few times, a fellow who pedestalizes a woman, does so b/c he wants a trophy to win. If she was just as human as he is...she wouldn't be a prize that validates his worth. We work harder for the things that are out of our reach, and the birds in the hand...we ignore for the ones in the bush. For sure, a lovesick doormat rarely gets the girl. My mother admitted when I was young, she didn't notice my father when he was at every cheerleading practice she had, but did notice when he stopped coming around. But I can say from experience, putting women on an equal footing doesn't make frogs into princes, either. the good looking are the ones still hunted for--due to that same reason of, we put effort into chase that which we value.

we don't value the doormat, we don't worry about the unattractive, but we are interested in the person who is attractive and we have to win over. Men as well as women want to validate their attractiveness, and a doormat offers themselves to us on a silver platter--where's the validation in that?
 JGL209
Joined: 5/1/2018
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Attractive Qualities
Posted: 5/14/2018 12:10:48 AM
I've always admired a woman who tells the truth, listens and doesn't talk too much.
 reverendswine
Joined: 4/14/2018
Msg: 100
Attractive Qualities
Posted: 5/14/2018 5:53:10 AM

But I can say from experience, putting women on an equal footing doesn't make frogs into princes, either. the good looking are the ones still hunted for


Well, here's something I know will ruffle the feathers of some, but, oh well.

Many of the people who don't fall under the "good looking" category have made the choice not to. Yes, it's their own fault. Overweight? Lose weight. Dress like a slob?? Start experimenting with new and different clothing, etc. Got the physique of a needle? Hit the gym.

I want to puke when I hear anyone say "but you don't understand, it's hard!", as if living an unfulfilling shit life isn't. The blaming of genetics and excuses of not having time are often complete bullshit. Men and women who are *truly* the hopeless equivalent of Medusa and The Hunchback of Notre Dame are rare.

I will never understand how anyone who isn't physically disabled can be willing to DIE without ever knowing what their best self looked like or how it felt to live the life it could have brought. They simply throw in the towel. It is f*cked up beyond comprehension. The only thing they ever develop to a master level is their excuse making skills and envy of others.

I grew up in surroundings that didn't tolerate this attitude. Anytime I dared to utter "I can't", I had "you better find a way" vehemently hurled at me. Anyone can adopt the same mindset any time they choose.

Furthermore, I would never be stupid enough to say "looks don't matter", but an average looking guy with the right attitude will always fare better than the average looking guy who is a miserable mope.
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