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 grover14
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SS, that called a skullet! I guess for an attractive quality, I could get a head tattoo, nope not going to happen. I'll keep my "Mr Clean" haircut and wait for a woman that likes it.

Back to the original post. I've always been attracted to women that are some sort of caregivers. Maybe it's the dedication or compassion they usually possess. Or someone that is a caring family oriented person.
 siisaa
Joined: 8/6/2017
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Posted: 5/15/2018 9:37:35 PM
Another thing that I find highly attractive in a man especially is someone who is easy to talk to. Being able to have an effortless, free-flowing conversation without judgment is highly underrated and hard to find. I've known a lot of men who were nice to look at but when they opened their mouths, any attraction went out the window. On the contrary, there have been a select few dudes who were physically attractive but when we had a conversation, we'd be agreeing, laughing, joking and understanding each-other's viewpoints and opinions. It was truly a rare treat and thus, greatly appreciated.

I have a co-worker who fits that bill. He's very attractive but also laid-back, chill, non-judgmental and so easy to talk to. He's cool as hell, has the right balance of street-smarts and book-smarts (like me).
 drinkthesunwithmyface
Joined: 3/27/2012
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Posted: 5/16/2018 4:20:09 AM
A lot of the things mentioned on a topic like this...not all...is what I call personality traits: Being shy vs extroverted, laughs a lot or doesn't, etc. But I look at things in the realm of what I call character more: Her interpersonal relationship ethics, Her values and opinions on certain things, how she views the opposite gender and relationships and what she's after in dating, how her mind operates.
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
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Posted: 5/16/2018 6:02:32 AM
"Being able to have an effortless, free-flowing conversation without judgment is highly underrated and hard to find."

>>>agreed. some people use conversations always to make themselves heard, and some use them to get educated. My former office just had my boss and me, and everyone came to vent. The company owners would visit my boss from time to time to "feel the pulse". He wasn't a big fan of playing the role of conduit :)

an ability to make conversation easy, has everything to do with one's ego.

"A lot of the things mentioned on a topic like this...not all...is what I call personality traits"

>>>true, and for those seeking personality traits, its easier to meet potential partners in real life than online, where we go more with photos to make decisions.

 Canelas19
Joined: 7/17/2017
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Posted: 5/16/2018 2:12:02 PM
Your words hold so much truth, but never seen it stated in such a raw way. "Know what their best self looked like". I'll remember that, thank you.

Thank you.
Many of the people who don't fall under the "good looking" category have made the choice not to. Yes, it's their own fault...

I want to puke when I hear anyone say "but you don't understand, it's hard!", as if living an unfulfilling shit life isn't. The blaming of genetics and excuses of not having time are often complete bullshit. Men and women who are *truly* the hopeless equivalent of Medusa and The Hunchback of Notre Dame are rare.

I will never understand how anyone who isn't physically disabled can be willing to DIE without ever knowing what their best self looked like or how it felt to live the life it could have brought. They simply throw in the towel. It is f*cked up beyond comprehension. The only thing they ever develop to a master level is their excuse making skills and envy of others.
 fullmoonguy2
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Posted: 5/16/2018 2:27:30 PM

how her mind operates.


The biggest mystery in the universe.
 purplerider1200
Joined: 9/10/2011
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Posted: 5/16/2018 3:07:05 PM
Fur on the face. Go kiss a scrub brush, you'll find out in short order why I don't do that. My beard can kill any razor before I'm done shaving.

I look awful in a hat, and no, no head shaving for me. With me, whatcha see is whatcha get.
 reverendswine
Joined: 4/14/2018
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Posted: 5/17/2018 11:39:39 AM

Your words hold so much truth, but never seen it stated in such a raw way. "Know what their best self looked like". I'll remember that, thank you.

Thank you.


Well, thank you, too, dear. Raw is my forte. I'm all about impact words and statements. ;)

As I said, the legitimate circus freaks in this world are the minority. What the hell is this paralyzing fear of an "average" face, anyway? If it's not deformed/disfigured, be damn thankful with what you've got to work with.

If everyone made the effort to be their "best self" it would create more options for everyone. I don't understand the "lie down and die" mindset and never will.

I'm just glad it's not me.
 MsMicki
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Posted: 5/17/2018 12:01:03 PM

If everyone made the effort to be their "best self" it would create more options for everyone. I don't understand the "lie down and die" mindset and never will.

I completely agree!!
I was never the "looker" that made men stare....but I always knew how to "give the look" that made men strike up a conversation...
and that's where it starts....

as for "lie down and die"....pfffft....there is someone for everyone out there....just got to have the gumption to go get 'em!!
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
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Posted: 5/17/2018 1:31:46 PM
when people are younger, they fear not being part of the group...and thus accepted. Only a few have the guts to be the proverbial nail that sticks out--and paying the price of loneliness or ridicule for it. so you may not see a lot of young singles being the best they can be, but doing the best copy of something popular instead.

The majority of the people are...average--by definition. The desire that they reach for the stars is...well, not recognizing that they are, already, doing their best and still coming up average. And their best is....well...not enough for some people to recognize--esp. in a Kardashian World. Before TV and the Internet, we accepted what we found in our little village. Now that we can see movie stars laden with makeup and their airbrushed photos, we don't accept what's average and around us anymore. so the average try their best, get ignored, and then get burned out on working so hard for nothing.

eighty percent of the dating population isn't going to bother with the average cashier they meet daily when they order lunch--they're going to waste their time on the hottie they see on POF, and then complain the hottie has too many requirements for a partner. We're going to aim high, no matter how hard that average cashier tries to be...the best average they can be.

welcome to human nature. we're no longer in caves burning our fingers over fire to cook raw meat before it spoils for a reason. we actually do aim high.
 siisaa
Joined: 8/6/2017
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Posted: 5/17/2018 4:11:08 PM

eighty percent of the dating population isn't going to bother with the average cashier they meet daily when they order lunch--they're going to waste their time on the hottie they see on POF, and then complain the hottie has too many requirements for a partner. We're going to aim high, no matter how hard that average cashier tries to be...the best average they can be.


I'd hope it wasn't 80%. If one is so deluded that they're solely going after "10s" and people who are out of their league, then yeah, they deserve to be frustrated and chronically single. I don't follow the examples of people on POF, especially if they can't even get a reply or date, when it comes to choosing a partner. The majority of people I know who are successful at dating & relationships cultivate these connections with folks who are just as 'average' as they are....because they met in their social or professional circles.
 Kissfromarose77
Joined: 4/2/2018
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Posted: 5/17/2018 7:45:25 PM
It’s attractive when a woman shows an interest in me as a person - she asks questions about what I like doing, my family, and how I grew up. The few coffee dates that I had it was all about the women. They kept talking about themselves, and didn’t care to hear my story as a unique individual.
 reverendswine
Joined: 4/14/2018
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Posted: 5/17/2018 9:18:37 PM

we don't accept what's average and around us anymore. so the average try their best, get ignored, and then get burned out on working so hard for nothing.


"We" is plural. You're speaking for others. So, the vast majority is made up of "average" people and they remain single throughout the entire lives? It's only the above average elite hooking up and populating the Earth? I'm sure you see the glaring contradiction here, yes??

Below average body/average face/shitty attitude vs. Above average body/average face/good attitude. The latter has exponentially better odds of being noticed and finding someone. There are more than enough people out there who look at the person as a whole. The latter is far more appealing as a whole.

If one doesn't want to bother with bettering themselves, that's fine, but to say it has little or no chance of being effective is simply not true.
 flowersinthelake
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Posted: 5/18/2018 8:39:17 AM
A wicked sense of humor, creativity and thoughtfulness are very attractive qualities.
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
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Posted: 5/18/2018 12:10:31 PM
"so the vast majority remains single throughout their entire lives?"

>>>that does raise the question, "What is successfulness in dating?". If one is a serial monogamist, are they successful? if someone "populates" the Earth yet are part of the 50% divorce rate, are they a success...or are they a failure b/c the marriage didn't last? If a woman has multiple kids from multiple partners, is she a success or is she a failure? How many people who stick to a partner, do so b/c they are happy, versus they can't afford to leave and are a failure at their relationship? i'm not sure if there's even statistics on this.

a person with a good attitude, has better odds than a person without a good attitude. 50% of success is showing up, and all that. PUA uniformly love to claim an average-looking fellow has a 20% chance of getting lucky. Compared to a guy who doesn't even try, 20% is great. Compared to attractive men, 20 % sucks. Someone once posted here he'd never ask women for advice on what women want, and admittedly, I don't copy what attractive men do to get dates. That's like driving my front wheel drive Escort the same way I drive my V8 Mustang and expect the exact same performance numbers on a race track.

Sculptors seem to choose marble as their medium for a reason. There's nothing wrong with polishing plain rock, but I wouldn't invest a lifetime in it hoping to find marble. in the end, an average dude looking the best he can. is still at the mercy of a hottie--she's going to think, whatever she wants to think, and no amount of polish is going to make her think something different. In a room full of men, she's going to limit herself to the ones worth thinking about. that's just human nature. an average dude may very well, invest his time better in finding an average woman to accept him, than to polish what he has and aim high and play the odds. But of course, our attitudes change as we age. When we're young, we want the best, and if we can't achieve it, we may decide that will be that way forever...and we aim our life towards other goals. Some other people will try forever to be Tiger Woods, and ignore other opportunities to shine in life.

"There are more than enough people out there who look at the person as a whole."

>>>which means we don't have to better ourselves...these people are looking at us as a whole. We don't have to hit the gym, they're going to see us as the whole. The problem is, someone's going to spot them and figure out what a great catch they are...and not let them be single much longer :) of course, if there were "more than enough", then there would be less complaining about OLD or dating in general--as teens we would have met these people, not been single, and would be married by now. some people suck b/c they were born a-holes, but others evolve that way. they get burned out by experience--heck, I know a poster who says he doesn't believe in relationships anymore. But once he did. he evolved into that idea. apparently there wasn't "enough" for him to keep that hope alive.
 reverendswine
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Posted: 5/18/2018 2:20:44 PM

which means we don't have to better ourselves...these people are looking at us as a whole. We don't have to hit the gym, they're going to see us as the whole.


That is not what I meant. You're misconstruing just about everything I've stated here. Attitude matters, but with this particular point I was making, I was referring to the physical attributes with "whole". A good body enhances the everloving shit out of an average face. Jennifer Aniston comes to mind, actually. Even if she weren't famous, she would still be killing it in her dating life.


I don't copy what attractive men do to get dates.


What they do is continuously better themselves, and apparently, that's what you're opposed to. If so, I certainly hope you never use the words "blessed" and "lucky" in reference to people who are attractive, because in many cases, it's the result of maintenance.
 backcreek7
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Posted: 5/18/2018 5:05:31 PM
my motto always was ~

slay them with a sense of humor & intelligence ...
fill um' in on the rest of the goods ...
then beg for mercy ...

col
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
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Posted: 5/18/2018 5:57:26 PM
Alas, you're still talking about genetically-beautiful people. Most men wouldn't consider what Jennifer Aniston looks like in her photos (maybe without the makeup she's unrecognizable, I don't know, but i'll guess she looked better y0unger, as we all do) an example of "average" (she has great cheekbones, blue eyes, blonde, big nipples, in some photos she looks a bit like Heather Locklear in her day, etc),

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=Q5116igR&id=4A4A4039903DF2A5AFF44885B0C43546529385A9&thid=OIP.Q5116igRR4OmAwrXEebqtwHaM_&mediaurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.betrendsetter.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F03%2Fjennifer-aniston-boobs.jpg&exph=877&expw=500&q=jennifer+aniston&simid=607987382261911419&selectedindex=32&ajaxhist=0

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=C%2B9XxmRG&id=C3D84579A581550CD28E6772B0F2A02895503205&thid=OIP.C-9XxmRGFeT8pQP4WJfZ5AHaEo&mediaurl=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.parade.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F11%2F12-8-jennifer-aniston-ftr.jpg&exph=775&expw=1240&q=jennifer+aniston&simid=608045725035202611&selectedindex=35&ajaxhist=0

so you're misconstruing your own argument there :) A woman who's "roomy in the hips" and has small cleavage, probably isn't going to change that at the gym--she might even lose some of her curves and hollow out her cheeks. She has what she has (I don't know what the male version of this is, a lack of V shape to the shoulders?). Some people are born with good genes, and I just don't get why they are ashamed about this. They have what others don't, and that's ok. they can roll out of bed with their hair in a mess, and don't need to "work hard" with a hair stylist to look good. one poster even hides what she has, and still gets attention. imagine that.

Should a flat chested woman undergo surgery in order to get more men? That would be "bettering herself", wouldn't it? But personally, I don't think she should have to do that. I think she should work with what she has, and not go that far. she won't get as many men chasing her if she doesn't enhance her bra size. now, others may think she should better herself, but I think she should accept what she is, and what she gets. is that so wrong to say? is that really settling?

how far should a man go to better himself? does he have to get hair plants? I think he should exercise for health. It would be great if he could build his body. Admittedly, some guys would rather prefer garlic bread to pounding iron. That's the best they can do. Most average man don't work hard to be average. They try to be what they are. And yes, some make excuses. But most humans don't try to be their worst. they reach their level, and it would be great if that was enough.

its funny how we make something so simple, complicated. People who are born beautiful, are beautiful. They don't need to work at being beautiful. at the other end of the spectrum is people who need to go under the knife to better themselves. That's too drastic. in between these two is a wide range of...averageness. by definition. If these levels of average were all that were needed, then average people wouldn't be single...b/c they have what is needed. They'd all have their ponytails pulled by strangers, and it wouldn't be unusual behavior, it would be normal behavior.

an attractive woman doesn't need much in the way of makeup to look good. she wakes up next to you looking like she did when you picked her up the night before. Is she blessed with good genes? of course she is. does that make her lucky? if she knows how to use it and not have it used against her, of course it does. The rest of us need makeup and good diet and clothing. Young people have their metabolism and don't need the gym--is that a blessing? sure is :)

I guess everyone defines "attractive" differently.
 Coral_Pearl
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Posted: 5/18/2018 6:52:08 PM
super interesting comments here. I often swipe right when I feel someone is out of my league, and I do seek out basically what I offer. Nothing more, nothing less. But I'm finding this online thing a bit of a hit to the ego. Getting used to things like ghosting, zombieing, breadcrumbing.. geez.. what ever happened to good old fashioned kindness and decency? It's hard to meet people in real life, where first impressions are taken care of in seconds. The digital age hasn't really done the dating scene any favours, and I'm trying not to get jaded about it.
 curvylady1965
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Posted: 5/18/2018 9:12:17 PM
Coral, I've only heard of ghosting (and experienced it). I'll have to look up the other terms so thank you for providing me something new to learn about.
As for the topic, I find a man who has had some negative experiences in life and has done some reflecting to be really attractive. I also really find myself attracted to a man who chooses a positive perspective over judgement of others to be super attractive. Of course, if he exists, he hasn't actually looked in my direction but it's what I would theoretically be attracted to :-).
 ohenryx
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Posted: 5/18/2018 11:29:52 PM

MachIMustangII
Personally, I went to Catholic school, wore a suit coat and tie, and found it did not attract women to me. For what it would cost me to do a make-over, the rate of return wouldn't justify it. But for others, it could, and they should try it out sometime. Its easy to say it won't work, but try it and find out for sure. of course, for some their problem is, it might work...and then they have to keep it up.

Back in 1981, I landed a job where I was required to work the 3 to 11 shift, also known as the swing shift. And I was the HMFIC (military acronym, Head-M-F-In-Charge). I received a 57% raise (always nice), and was told that I had to spend some of that money on clothes. My new boss told me, “When someone comes on the floor, they need to know who is in charge.”

So I’m wearing 3 piece suits to work, and getting off at 11 p.m. I was 30 years old, single, and had nothing better to do at 11 p.m. then hit the clubs. This was during a period when C&W was the “in thing”, so jeans and boots were the normal attire in the “hot clubs”. And I was showing up every night in a 3 piece suit. Definitely made me stand out. I’m not going to brag about the results, but I’ll just say it was the second best period of my life (second only to college).

You may not agree that “clothes make the man”, but when Z Z Top wrote “Sharp Dressed Man”, they did know what they were talking about.

MachIMustangII
an average looking guy with the right attitude, trumps the one with the wrong attitude. but is the guy with the right attitude going to get near what the hot guy is getting for attention? and i'm not even saying he has to get laid as often. sometimes its nice to go into a store and the salesperson runs over to help, b/c you're attractive. the cop lets you off with a warning, b/c you're cute. you get the sales promotion b/c you have a body that sells anything. there are social benefits to having what others want.

Today at work, I got a problem report from a particularly attractive young woman. I made a special trip downstairs and woke up the sloths in operations and made them fix the problem. One of them asked, “What woke you up and made you give a sh__?” I replied, “It’s for _____ _____.” He replied, “oh”. Everyone in the building knows who she is. It is what it is.


NewYorker58
I would venture to guess that men, more than women, go by pictures.

Interesting, made me think for a minute. I do believe that women are every bit as much about physical appearance, physical attractiveness as men. But what men like shows up easier in photographs.

There are things that trigger attraction. Things that may not show in a photograph. Visual, but not what is easily captured on film.


grover14
My toy is a 39 Ford coupe streetrod. I know, it's a guy hobby, but I know a gal with a killer 66 GTO.

Back around 1977, I had an on again, off again, live in (sometimes) relationship with a young woman who just happened to own a 1967 GTO. The car was nice, and she wasn’t. But she was the 2nd best lover I ever had, which is truly saying something.




a frog with a wonderful attitude is....a frog with a wonderful attitude.

Who is more positively perceived than the moping frog. Perception is huge.

I learned a long time ago, attitude is the most important thing under your control. A positive attitude WILL make your life better. Period. End of story.
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
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Posted: 5/19/2018 5:04:00 AM
"what ever happened to good old fashioned kindness and decency?"

>>>I suspect the factor is, we are out of fist range on the internet. Before there was "breakup by text", there was the terrible "Dear John" letter.

I remember when C&W was still fashionable up here in dairy farm country, I wasn't legal for the bars in the 1980's but obviously knew they existed. Ironically, what Henry described, the PUA's label "peac0cking". Walk into a bar dressed differently than others (a bathrobe, or a crazy hat, or a shirt with a programmable message built in, etc) and it was an excuse for women interested in you, to approach and break the ice by asking WTF were you wearing. I'm glad it worked for a tall fellow like yourself, Henry. As Pig and I agree, when we had to wear nice suits for Catholic school (and boy were those kids label-conscious!), it didn't make a difference. People who wish to approach, will do so regardless, and the others will...either dismiss us as uptight, or they won't care and go back to their cellphone. this doesn't mean we should dress like slobs, of course. Will an Armani suit convince a woman to ignore a beer belly hanging over a belt? Worse, if she gets him home and finds out he holds it in with a girdle, and his shoes have 2 inch lifts hidden inside, will she be too charmed to feel deceived? how much "bettering ourself" is too much?

"Today at work, I got a problem report from a particularly attractive young woman."

>>> where I used to work, I suffered a female manager who always handed things in at closing on Friday due to her terrible inability to get organized. When she hired her future daughter-in-law and realized how many guys were drooling over her, of course the manager made sure her DIL delivered the late reports...instead of expressing our distaste at the timing, we were happy to see a wonderful distraction to our day. I have absolutely no doubt, that in every culture, around the world, attractive people get a better reception. Its not just about getting one night stands, its the entire package. few toxic coworkers are truly toxic to the hottie--they don't want to screw up their chances. sales staff will bother to go look in the back for the item the hottie came in to buy, just to be sure she doesn't immediately leave.

"I do believe that women are every bit as much about physical appearance"

>>>scientifically, a percentage of the young female population respond to their ovulation cycle. In other words, there are certain times every month they are more interested in the manliness of a man, b/c their body is telling them to procreate with the best choice. and there are of course humans who are more sensual than other humans. They'll notice every sunset, every flower, every...choice specimen :) I used to work in an office that, among other things, did order over a phone (now of course its a computer talking to a computer). Anyone who has done this, knows about getting someone at the other end who just sounds seeeexy. One day someone has the opportunity to drive over to that place, and wants to meet the person behind that phone voice. The receptionist smiles a knowing smile, paging that person to the front desk. and we find they are....well, not what we imagined at all :)

stick us in a concert full of people, and we may notice the ones with the best appearance. Get us drunk, we may notice other people for other reasons. Take us to an afterparty with a smaller group to choose from, and we might get to know someone and really love their sense of humor, or their intelligence really intrigues us. What we are looking to turn us on, at this very moment, might introduce us to someone we wouldn't have noticed yesterday. The characteristics that turn us into a "work husband or work wife", however, may not make us want to go home and sleep with them. But we will have a platonic intimacy with that person.

As for the GTO's, I was at a car show last night with a fellow who set up his 1969 like mine--with 1968 doors in order to have the vent windows. But for all the power his 455 was making under the hood...he still had the stock 4 wheel drum brakes. That was a sore point for early GM muscle cars, sadly Ralph Nader had a point...tho power disc brakes that launch you thru the windshield had their own issues :) I love the old cars, but I understand those who love their new muscle cars. technology is wonderful, and anyone wanting an old car but none of the hassle, should really not dismiss the new cars out of hand.

Attitude is in our control, as long as our day isn't too stressful. It can help a lot, but having jerkoff coworkers is out of our control--they can really mess things up regardless of our attitude. A good attitude can make a friend, but there are plenty of b1tchy hot women out there who still get approached. And there are plenty of nice guys who get friend-zoned. A good attitude beats a bad one but as someone who's always had a good attitude, I can say from a lifetime of experience....genetically good looks beat hair dye, makeup, a good suit, lifts in the shoes, etc. if for some reason, you told me you had the magic power to make me look like George Clooney in torn jeans and a T-shirt, or a smartly dressed Danny Di Vito...I know what I'd want to look like, and i think many would love to look like GC too.

nothing beats the real thing. I've seen too many attractive people with bad attitudes get their asses kissed, to think that a bad attitude is always the kiss of death and a good attitude always turns people on regardless of physical looks.
 julystorm7
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Posted: 5/19/2018 2:03:19 PM
You have a lot of words of wisdom. It was a nice read. I liked the part you said regarding smaller parties and with less options you still pick someone to get to know. That's one of the things which makes online dating so terrible. With having the impression there's unlimited fish in the sea, more options makes us fussier. If you got send 10 messages online, you might decide none of the people are worth replying to. However, if you were sat at a singles table at a wedding with 5 of them, you might pick one to pursue.
 HawkingJr
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Posted: 5/22/2018 3:18:36 PM
Just one, really: attraction to me. If a woman I find remotely attractive expresses attraction to me (or I just think she is), I will suddenly find her a lot more attractive. Doesn’t matter what her personality is like or what kind of interests she has. My one and only ex-girlfriend I knew for a year without thinking anything of her one way or the other, then someone told me she had a crush on me, and suddenly I’m like “You know what, she’s kind of cute.” Of course, turns out her personality within a relationship is obnoxious, so I became less attracted to her over time, but point is, I knew her fairly well by the time I found out she liked me (we worked together) and nothing she did or said made me think of her as anything more than “average” until I found out she liked me. She’s the best example of that, as she’s the only person I’ve truly dated that I had no opinion of for a long time before discovering her interest in me, but there are plenty of other cases in which I initially looked at a woman and shrugged but suddenly started swooning when she flirted with me or was EXTRA NICE and acting interested in comparison to most women, but none of those ever panned out as far as becoming full-fledged relationships.

I’ve long claimed I could care less about a woman’s intelligence or her sense of humor, but to be perfectly honest I found it frustrating at times dating really air-brained women and especially frustrating dating women who were very uptight and didn’t seem to think anything was funny, despite the fact that I have a very dry sense of humor and am not some sort of joke-a-second guy. That sort of stuff does get old after a while, but on the rare occasion that I got to date someone reasonably intelligent (to the point that we were constantly challenging each other) or who thought everything was funny... that, too, got really old after a while. I suppose somewhere there’s some sort of happy medium, but so few women are attracted to me that I’m really in a beggars can’t be choosers position and will take whatever I can get. And like most any guy, the more physically attractive a woman, the less I care about her flaws. It’s difficult to imagine the non-physical characteristic that’s going to make me go gaga over a woman I don’t find physically attractive very much or at all. I’m sure I myself am a very good example of the same in men, because none of my achievements, interests or personality traits have ever meant anything to a woman that doesn’t find men with my physical attributes attractive (exception: money).
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