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 julystorm22
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As both men and women get older, its not uncommon to creep up in weight. While some people can maintain a good level of physical activity the more common reality is that physical activity gets harder the older you get. There are many people, myself included, who need to do a significant amount of physical activity a week or I go back up in weight. One of the reasons I gained so much weight in the first place was that my body was 8n pretty rough shape post-pregnancy and exercise was very difficult. It took almost 2 years to feel able again. And what happens when as I get older I develop knee problems or arthritis or something?

Part of me thinks I should find a guy when I weigh more because he will like me for me, no matter the weight. But if I was to get thin and got a guy would I wonder if he'd dump me if I gained weight?
 hemingway234
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Posted: 9/15/2018 8:57:43 PM

As both men and women get older, its not uncommon to creep up in weight. While some people can maintain a good level of physical activity the more common reality is that physical activity gets harder the older you get. There are many people, myself included, who need to do a significant amount of physical activity a week or I go back up in weight. One of the reasons I gained so much weight in the first place was that my body was 8n pretty rough shape post-pregnancy and exercise was very difficult. It took almost 2 years to feel able again. And what happens when as I get older I develop knee problems or arthritis or something?



Exercise is only one way to loose weight. Eating less or eating smaller portions is another.





Part of me thinks I should find a guy when I weigh more because he will like me for me, no matter the weight. But if I was to get thin and got a guy would I wonder if he'd dump me if I gained weight?


- if you gain wight in a relationship, less, it's possible that the man's love level will go down a little bit, which is dangerous.. men do like an attractive wife/partner. However, love is pretty strong, it would probably take a lot more than that to kill his love for you.
 johnfromzelie
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Posted: 9/16/2018 7:02:53 AM

Part of me thinks I should find a guy when I weigh more because he will like me for me, no matter the weight. But if I was to get thin and got a guy would I wonder if he'd dump me if I gained weight?
lose the weight for yourself or don't bother. I would rather have a few accept me as I am before changing into what everyone else thought I should be. besides, if you lose it to get a man, you will likely gain it back after you get one and become comfortable.
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 9/16/2018 12:38:45 PM

I think julystorm22 could put "average" in her profile.

I think she could get away with it too, but would be a mundane example of how people define "average" that people understandably roll their eyes about. Her weight is more than she looks as she carries it pretty well... she looks clearly in the "a few extra pounds" category, nothing more nothing less, really. Basically if working out / properly dieting, not far from an Inarguable "average", as she's obviously closer to that.

What is the point though? I want to make damn sure someone is aware of my looks including a full body shot.before I go on a date.

True. For the same reason someone shouldn't put a couple pics up there that gives them The Best Look Ever, that doesn't look too much like them IRL walking in the door. Actually, if you put a Worse look on there with pics, but not horrible, but enough to get a date to go thru -- the other person will like you more than you Are worth, when you look better than your pics (positive surprises are extra positive, like negative surprises are extra negative).
 SiennaBear2
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Posted: 9/17/2018 12:30:44 AM

There are many people, myself included, who need to do a significant amount of physical activity a week or I go back up in weight

Physical activity doesn't burn as much energy as you think it does aka 1 hr of walking only like 100 calories for me. Its about 80% based on consuming right food and amount of calories and 20% to burn any small excess of energy off
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 9/17/2018 1:44:30 AM

Physical activity doesn't burn as much energy as you think it does aka 1 hr of walking only like 100 calories for me. Its about 80% based on consuming right food and amount of calories and 20% to burn any small excess of energy off

True. Pound for pound, it's what you're eating & how much that makes the biggest difference. "Sneaking" things in, "cheat days", etc., can easily add up much more than one thinks.... they'll think they're only taking in X calories a day and doing well, but in reality, it's solidly more than that. That's why I think if people count calories not by estimates but adding up all the numbers On Every Single Big or Little Thing -- that alone helps a lot by itself.
 SiennaBear2
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Posted: 9/17/2018 4:59:15 AM

That's why I think if people count calories not by estimates but adding up all the numbers On Every Single Big or Little Thing -- that alone helps a lot by itself.

To make estimations you need to be very good at knowing exactly how much is in what you eat and knowing roughly how much of what you can be eating to lose weight.
When I gained weight like 5-6 years ago it was primarily from TCA antidepressant which made me gorge on food and I'd go into uni and have a full calorie energy drink and hot chips aaaand juice and just think a 1 hr walk could burn off my daily calories plusss all that excess. Result was it obviously couldn't and over a year I gained 33 pounds.
The weight gain finally stopped when I stopped that medication aaaand realized 1 walk is not enough to work off thousands of excess of kjs. Now because I'm so much better at estimating how much I need to eat to lose weight I can lose 2kg in a week or 2 pretty easily. Would be pretty hungry though gotta say, unless I exercise more but ya it's winter eww.
Took me like 4ish years to lose that 33 pounds plus some.
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 9/17/2018 11:14:08 AM

To make estimations you need to be very good at knowing exactly how much is in what you eat and knowing roughly how much of what you can be eating to lose weight.

What I was referring to is not to make any estimations at all. People will think they're on target but be terrible at it. Just by what you Are doing when half-a$$ trying or fully trying. It puts things in perspective, and that alone makes it easier, when one, like July is "I try, but it really doesn't work!" No estimates. No cheat days. :)
 whiterose0
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Posted: 9/17/2018 11:21:39 AM

That's why I think if people count calories not by estimates but adding up all the numbers On Every Single Big or Little Thing -- that alone helps a lot by itself.


Counting calories is not the only way to lose weight. I don't count calories, but instead, find it easier to simply watch my carbohydrate intake. As long as I keep it below 30 grams a day, I'm able to keep weight off. Back when I used to count calories and follow a low fat diet, I weighed 15 lbs more than I do now.
 julystorm22
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Posted: 9/17/2018 11:26:31 AM
In the past year I have developed a certain lifestyle that helps me lose weight and I've also done a lot of research and tried different things.

Calories burned during exercise isn't actually the purpose of exercise for me. In the past 2 months I have been doing high-intensity exercise for 30 minutes every second day plus I was playing very high-intensity soccer once a week. I've also been doing carb cycling which is basically low carb Monday through Thursday and eating whatever I want from Friday to Sunday. Its been working well and I like it and it will work for me longterm. I have problems with my thyroid. Hypothyroidism plus some sort of disorder I forget the name of. So my metabolic system works against me. Exercise seems to jumpstart it in a way and there's plenty of research that shows that some people cannot lose weight easily from diet alone which is my case but regular high-intensity exercise works wonders. And jumping back in forth between high calorie and low calorie periods tricks my metabolism so that it doesn't stabilize.

I have an educational background that includes several university nutrition courses. Plus I've been doing a lot of reading. It doesn't seem to matter the amount of calories I'm eating but what I'm eating as a whole. Obviously I've been eating less starch and sugar but only 4 days a week. But I've been drinking a heck of a lot of green tea and lots of fibre and healthy fats and high amounts of protein. Its not how much I eat but what I eat, basically.

I was 237 in July of 2017. I lost the first 20 pounds very quickly by eating less. But then the weight loss slowed, even with further reductions in calories and extra miles of walking and it eventually plateaued. Then I lost my self-discipline and started cheating often with unhealthy foods although I would still maintain the healthy diet on some days. Surprisingly, I started losing a little weight and then I discovered HIIT and carb-cycling and really embraced the idea and the weightloss started happening again. I've lost 12 pounds in two months which is really good weight loss for me. 1 to 2 pounds per week are considered good healthy weightloss. Now I'm only 8 pounds away from a 50-pound loss and only 33 pounds away from my goal weight of 162.
 SiennaBear2
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Posted: 9/17/2018 11:40:43 AM
If you have hypothyroidism should you be on medication for it? maybe that would help weight loss. I drink a lot of water when I eat, like 700-800 mls I think it makes me full lol. I notice when I run out of water in my glass and don't drink much I'll eat like 3x what I usually eat.
I think I'm just in the healthy weight range but I feel mildly fat. My body seems to like being this weight though. I probably won't be able to lose much more unless the doctor lets me try Wellbutrin.
 julystorm22
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Posted: 9/17/2018 12:01:36 PM
I have always been a big water drinker and I still am. Never was one for pop (that would be soda in American English).

I should be on thyroid pills. Took synthyroid for years but then I got a string of new docs who refuse to do extra bloodwork. They insisted the regular test they do would specify a problem. Despite the fact that I had been seeing a specialist twice-yearly since I was 17. I switched provinces and apparently they couldn't look at my medical records. My specialist retired and his office closed the year I moved too which doesn't help. It can be difficult here to get extra testing. Anyhow, when I took synthyroid I did feel better, a lot less tired. I still feel tired a lot and sometimes I really get brain fog which sucks. My family says I go off to la-la land.
 2ufo
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Posted: 9/17/2018 12:43:44 PM
Coma...


I don't think I want a man who demands my weight always remain what he considers 'right'.
I definitely don't want a man who thinks I need to mold myself over to what he likes.
I don't want a man who demands that I never change. Stasis is death and I know I'm going to get older with more wrinkles and such.
I don't want a man who won't even look at someone who is out of his criteria; whose standards are immobile and unchanging. (see comment about stasis.)

What does this mean? Stasis is death? Of course your skin is going to change a bit as you age, but what does it have to do with weight? You don't have to gain weight as you age if you stay active and eat right.

Maybe I'm being my normal persnickety self.

Stasis is death -- People who don't change... they ossify. Mentally as well as physically. Change is normal, inevitable, and constant. (from Disraeli). People who live longer are generally better at change, more adaptable.

Of course, your skin -- uh, this forum is about weight? Weight and skin? Weight and wrinkles? Well, I was using wrinkles to demonstrate changes that everyone will go through as they age, weight being more individual. Fine lines and wrinkles are generally early signs of aging. Greying hair, receding hairline, less energy, weight gain, muscle loss, osteoarthritis, farsightedness, cataracts, endocrine organs losing efficiency, osteoporosis...

You don't have to gain -- If people don't change (see first point) either their diet or their exercise regime - or both - they will probably gain weight. Eating right also becomes more difficult because stomach acid dilutes (hindering nutrient absorption), taste buds die off and olfactory senses decline meaning food doesn't taste. Exercise becomes more difficult as well due to muscle loss or joint issues.

I think I was trying to say that anyone who assumes their partner is not going to change is some way or another is due for an inevitable disappointment.
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 9/17/2018 1:13:29 PM

Counting calories is not the only way to lose weight. I don't count calories, but instead, find it easier to simply watch my carbohydrate intake.

Our food pyramid is kind of out of whack where it aims for too big on carbs, notably in an eat-a-lot society. That said, my aim was to know how many calories Exactly what you're doing when you already tried but it's not going so well. So many people estimate or slip into estimating, especially adding cheat treats & days, etc. People are a lot worse at it than they think. If it's "too much a pain" to be exact on it -- one's most likely Off by more than they think. It's more a Psychological thing to keep one on track.

But yes, it's What you eat that's very important. Which is why it's a waste of time to go on a diet of stuff one Dislikes for several months to drop some pounds (sans for a wedding or class reunion). It will always come back, if that's the case. It's to change it to something one's Comfortable with, as Their Way. Otherwise, one's just wasting their time.
 SiennaBear2
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Posted: 9/18/2018 1:45:08 AM
I don't think whole cheat days are a good thing. I have basically 2 modes, weight loss mode and non-weight loss mode. When I'm in weight loss mode I'll have a cheat snack or 2 like crisps or a popper of juice or 1 time a fortnight or week mcdonalds/subway/eat in pizza hut/restaurant but the calories are counted into my allowance. But I eat more subway than the others because what I have is healthier and less calories than like mcdonalds
 hemingway234
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Posted: 9/18/2018 5:04:48 AM

Physical activity doesn't burn as much energy as you think it does aka 1 hr of walking only like 100 calories for me. Its about 80% based on consuming right food and amount of calories and 20% to burn any small excess of energy off


- that's really good information.


- a low carb diet is what the pros do to cut fat.


mcdonalds/subway/eat in pizza hut/restaurant but the calories are counted into my allowance. But I eat more subway than the others because what I have is healthier and less calories than like mcdonalds


- all that stuff is really bad for you and weight...fructose corn syrup is in all of that commercial bread, for one thing. Pretty much anything that has sugar, fructose corn syrup, or is sweet, is bad for you.... except fruit and sweet things with sugar substitutes. I know, there are not many good things to eat, ha-ha!
 julystorm22
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Posted: 9/18/2018 6:11:23 AM
I think it's just important to make changes that will last a long time. For me, my two biggest problems are being around/living with someone who buys and eats junk constantly and money to buy all the good healthy food. I'd like to reduce my starch/sugars more than what I am but the truth is that ones like bread, pasta, rice and potatoes are cheap and they fill up my kids' stomachs. So while I can't afford to do healthy and low carb and high protein every day, 3 or 4 times a week is slightly manageable. I bought a bag of black beans and a bag of green peppers yesterday which are basically luxury items in my budget.
 norwegianguy456
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Posted: 9/18/2018 7:55:07 AM

I'd like to reduce my starch/sugars more than what I am but the truth is that ones like bread, pasta, rice and potatoes are cheap and they fill up my kids' stomachs. So while I can't afford to do healthy and low carb and high protein every day, 3 or 4 times a week is slightly manageable.

You don't want to tank up on bread, pasta, rice, and potatoes. Not for one day. There's ways around that, on a budgetary scale. The bigger/real problem is, as you point out -- it's the people you're around. You can't help yourself, which is tough for anyone.
 2ufo
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Posted: 9/18/2018 9:37:04 AM
July...
Dump the bread. Use potatoes instead. Don't fry them. Don't go overboard - try eating half of your normal serving.
My 'bread' substitute is barley.

Add other grains to rice - brown rice, barley, quinoa - to get your kids used to various foods. Add beans as well - use dry and soak overnight. Much cheaper than canned. Add raisins and/or nuts. Call it 'confetti rice' to get your kids to eat it.
Add onions and garlic to everything... I use cut onions as noodles.

Cabbage is great. I cut cabbage to use as noodles also. Kolcannon (mashed pototoes + onions+ cabbage) is great. Usually there's a bit of bacon in it but that can be sparse.

The nice thing about potatoes, onions, barley, and cabbage is that they're white - just like bread.
Kind of mentally substitutes the satisfaction of eating bread into something healthier.
 SiennaBear2
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Posted: 9/18/2018 11:21:26 AM

Dude fructose corn syrup is not even used in Aus.
HFCS is rarely used in Australia, compared to
cane sugar, which is cheaper and more readily available.
HFFS is way worse for you than normal sugar.
I like fruit but Aus is going through really bad fruit tampering right now with needles and Im scared to eat strawberries and bananas because people keep putting needles in them.
Here we have free fruit for kids to eat in woolworths and some woman was caught putting a needle in a banana in the free kids fruit.
 hemingway234
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Posted: 9/18/2018 12:01:37 PM
That's really good that high fructose corn syrup is not in Australia. It's in tons of stuff in America, unfortunately.

Vegetables are a good alternative to fruit.



July...
Dump the bread. Use potatoes instead. Don't fry them. Don't go overboard - try eating half of your normal serving.
My 'bread' substitute is barley.

Add other grains to rice - brown rice, barley, quinoa - to get your kids used to various foods. Add beans as well - use dry and soak overnight. Much cheaper than canned. Add raisins and/or nuts. Call it 'confetti rice' to get your kids to eat it.
Add onions and garlic to everything... I use cut onions as noodles.

Cabbage is great. I cut cabbage to use as noodles also. Kolcannon (mashed pototoes + onions+ cabbage) is great. Usually there's a bit of bacon in it but that can be sparse.

The nice thing about potatoes, onions, barley, and cabbage is that they're white - just like bread.
Kind of mentally substitutes the satisfaction of eating bread into something healthier.



- This is really good advice too. But some kinds of bread are okay, such as gluten free and rye.
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Posted: 9/18/2018 2:51:47 PM

Physical activity doesn't burn as much energy as you think it does


Yeah, just look at all those 300 lb. marathon runners in the Olympics every 4 years.
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Posted: 9/18/2018 2:52:03 PM
^^^
True, but they are pricier and July is currently at a place in her life where inexpensive is paramount.

For what it's worth, all sugars are really bad for people.

Feeling more pleased with yourself and superior because you use only organic, rata honey (dang good stuff, by the way) or pure cane instead of beet sugar instead of HFCS or any other sugar is pretty sad.


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Physical activity doesn't burn as much energy as you think it does

Yeah, just look at all those 300 lb. marathon runners in the Olympics every 4 years.

Hmm, the ones who spend about 7 hours daily on running and workouts?
If I did anything for 7 hours daily... oh, wait. That's called going to work.
 julystorm22
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Posted: 9/18/2018 3:44:31 PM
ot to mention that there have been some alarming studies on marathon runners and heart attacks...too much cardio like that is actually bad for you. And something important to consider is just because you may be skinny doesn't mean you're healthy. There are many many athletes in bad physical shape with various health problems stemming from years of too much physical activity.

I actually make homemade bread. Every couple weeks I bake 8 loaves of whole wheat. I freeze 5 and 1 loaf usually lasts 2 days.

To the person who suggested quinoa and brown rice. Quinoa is $4.97 for 375g at Walmart (and that's the online price which is less than at the stores in Saskatchewan) and $7.97 for 1.6 kg while a big bag of white rice is $8.97 for 8 kg. And an 8 kg bag of rice lasts forever.
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Posted: 9/19/2018 6:25:21 AM

ot to mention that there have been some alarming studies on marathon runners and heart attacks...too much cardio like that is actually bad for you. And something important to consider is just because you may be skinny doesn't mean you're healthy. There are many many athletes in bad physical shape with various health problems stemming from years of too much physical activity.


There are no guarantees in life. Even a person that is seemingly in good physical shape can get cancer, dementia, heart attack, stroke etc. That being said, I much rather would take my chances with working out "too much" than leading a sedentary lifestyle.
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