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 MadameBoisseau
Joined: 5/11/2017
Msg: 76
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This is really simple, a patriarchy is a society in which males hold power and most women are excluded from it. All one must do is is see if representatives are proportional to the population.

Women are 51% of the population, yet after 100 years of feminism still only make up 17% of representatives. Either you cant do math, or you are deliberately ignorant. Neither of which is admirable.
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 77
Why do men lie to lay with a woman?
Posted: 6/17/2018 7:49:12 PM
"OP.. you had fair warning with this joke of a man for a long time. Now you're in a stew of drama. There's no one to blame but yourself. Check facts and stop thinking with your vagina and maybe you will find a man with some character and quality. "

>>>how many times has a human posted here about all the hopes and dreams they had about someone they met here...before the first date or the second? We had to tell them, "its not real until it happens". but they still invested heavily in the dream, and had a dilly of a time trying to comprehend how reality in their face didn't match the lies they convinced themselves were true.

We've also discussed profile photos that are blurry, old, or outright doctored. Why do people do that? well, they are here b/c they aren't having success with people who meet them IRL. so they consider what level of success their real photo will have. So they fudge, and then they get responses, and they find one of two things happen--either the first date goes bad, or they get a second date, b/c the person they met is so invested in the outcome, they overlook a "few" pounds. Or they ignore the red flags that suggest he's not single. Or they pay attention to his stories about financial stability but ignore his clothes look like he robbed a Goodwill dumpster and he arrived by bus.

sometimes in life...we're responsible for where we ended up.
 cooldog65
Joined: 6/27/2011
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Why do men lie to get a woman
Posted: 6/17/2018 10:34:47 PM

I don't want to be questioned on this any more, fk you all if you think it's ok to lie to get sex.


No further questions needed.
 Gina1297
Joined: 11/6/2017
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Posted: 6/17/2018 11:25:22 PM
ok, first off. All men will lie if you let them . Yes, they are going to figure out how gullible you are. If they get away with it in the beginning they will continue it. ( like you believing he was divorced, A smart women insists on seeing the paperwork, it seems cute to be trusting, but this is where it gets you } what you need to realise is he has already lied to you ( ya know why....he thinks your stupid) and he will continue to until you put a stop to it. sorry to tell you honey, it's already too late. He sleeps well every night with how he treats you. to him , it's ok, and that will never change.
 RoxyMoronic
Joined: 6/7/2016
Msg: 80
Why do men lie to get a woman
Posted: 6/18/2018 12:07:14 AM

My standards were that sometimes people tell you the truth and you've got to take that leap of faith. Suppose i've got to stick to the mindset that all men are lying cheats unless they prove otherwise.

Kind of yes. No one deserves your trust straight away, man or woman, priest or doctor.
If you don’t want sex early on because you really just want it, don’t have it. That’s the only way to ensure ‘not being used’.
Lying to get sex is morally reprehensible I think we can all agree on that. But legally....what a minefield.
 hemingway234
Joined: 6/6/2015
Msg: 81
Why do men lie to get a woman
Posted: 6/18/2018 1:58:27 AM
Not all people, all women or all men, are liars. Let's not go off the deep end here.
Why do men lie to get a woman
Posted: 6/18/2018 2:26:33 AM

This is really simple, a patriarchy is a society in which males hold power and most women are excluded from it. All one must do is is see if representatives are proportional to the population.

Women are 51% of the population, yet after 100 years of feminism still only make up 17% of representatives. Either you cant do math, or you are deliberately ignorant. Neither of which is admirable.

That's a poor example of patriarchy, and a poor characterization of power and what the representatives do. You need to know why. You been doing the equivalent of watching too many of those weird you tube videos.

ok, first off. All men will lie if you let them

Oh reeaally??
 reverendswine
Joined: 4/14/2018
Msg: 83
Why do men lie to get a woman
Posted: 6/18/2018 2:37:35 AM

Rape is defined as taking sex from someone without consent.

Just like in the court system taking from someone without consent is theft.

In the court system our patriarchy designed: if someone lies to take a man's money without his informed consent, they can go to jail for fraud. But because patriarchal men like to use fraud to exploit sex from women - they magically forget the necessity of consent.

And when women point this out, we are just hysterical feminazis of course! Cause feminism is EXACTLY LIKE when Hitler invaded the eastern bloc...


Again, there are fraudulent women who lie their asses off to gain relationships and sex is a part of that package. It is far from being a rare occurrence, too. I've been on the receiving end of it a number of times. You have no earthly idea how much I'm looking forward to your sympathy and expression of outrage over my multiple "rapes".

Oh, but wait. That would first require you coming to the startling realization that women aren't the only victims on the fücking planet.

Nevermind.



ok, first off. All men will lie if you let them .


Excellent post. I totally agree.

Nah, not really....I just lied, and I didn't even need you to let me.
 Kissfromarose77
Joined: 4/2/2018
Msg: 84
Lier, lier pants on fire!
Posted: 6/18/2018 3:20:30 AM

This is really simple, a patriarchy is a society in which males hold power and most women are excluded from it. All one must do is is see if representatives are proportional to the population.

Women are 51% of the population, yet after 100 years of feminism still only make up 17% of representatives. Either you cant do math, or you are deliberately ignorant. Neither of which is admirable.


Men do hold the majority of the political power in the world, but irony is that women voted these men in. White women voted for Trump. There are also some women here on this forum who want to turn the clock back to the 1950’s when men paid for everything, yet I don’t see any feminists lambasting them. Men lying to get women is a totally different issue. Both men and women are capable of lying to get what they want.
 MachIMustangII
Joined: 2/16/2018
Msg: 85
Why do men lie to get a woman
Posted: 6/18/2018 5:41:18 AM
"you have got to take that leap of faith"

>>>there's nothing wrong with taking a gamble....just so long as you don't gamble anything you can't afford to lose.

if someone has sex with you, what did you get from them? you got sex. Sex doesn't mean love. you got what you were given, sex. If you wanted to be respected, then you should have gotten respect...as well as gotten laid. If you want to be liked, you should have been liked...and gotten laid, too. If you wanted to be loved, then you should have courted until you both got to know each other so well, that you both knew what was there to love....and gotten laid in the meantime. or not.


If we're hoping sex is going to lead to getting other things from people, then we get really upset we "gave it up too soon". otherwise, you got what you wanted to get, that one thing. Animals may lie in their mating calls or dances, and if so, all it does it dilute their gene pool. and next spring they choose better.

games only work on those interested in playing. everyone else walks away.

"Men do hold the majority of the political power in the world, but irony is that women voted these men in."

>>>good point. Two male politicians were smeared with charges of being inappropriate to women, and yet in an age of MeToo, they got a lot of support from women. Or maybe the women voters were responding in backlash to MeToo. Its hard to save women from bad men, when the women show their daughters an example by voting for bad men :)
 backcreek7
Joined: 12/2/2014
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Why do women lie to get a man
Posted: 6/18/2018 8:25:33 AM
* In general, we know both men and women lie at times ...

* My opinion ? If we wonder who actually may lie more ~ I believe it is women ( beep beep beep beep beep )
At my age of 66 ~ I have found this to be the case.

This includes those pesky little " white " lies, the ones which many excel at ...

* All this will become more apparent, when our smart phones begin to " beep beep " , every time a lie is uttered ...
 NewYorker58
Joined: 6/11/2013
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Posted: 6/18/2018 8:55:12 AM
Yes, women lie more with lies of kindness.

John: Is this the biggest one you've ever seen?
Sally: Yes.
 CBGB77
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Posted: 6/18/2018 9:14:39 AM

Posted By: Newyorker58 on 6/18/2018 1012 AM
Subject: Men with low self esteem
Message: Yes, women lie more with lies of kindness.

John: Is this the biggest one you've ever seen?
Sally: Yes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0nqZii2RjI
 feirene
Joined: 1/3/2017
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Posted: 6/18/2018 9:28:36 AM

Kind of yes. No one deserves your trust straight away, man or woman, priest or doctor.
If you don’t want sex early on because you really just want it, don’t have it. That’s the only way to ensure ‘not being used’.

I did want sex with him, but with the pretend him and not the real him that he lied about. If i hadn't even found out he was married then i'd be fine about it now obviously but he'd still have taken away my consent, thing is though i did find out and then had to deal with it. Seeing as i had told him i didn't want sex with married guys, via messages, and he sent me a made up story i could've used that as evidence. Did i want to go to the police with something like that? Kind of, to make a stand against people who do this stuff, but i was busy dealing with how that left me feeling so i didn't bother. In fact this was something that pushed me into several therapies to deal with issues i had for myself, not that i'll ever thank a lying rapist for that.

Lying to get sex is morally reprehensible I think we can all agree on that. But legally....what a minefield.
If it's morally reprehensible then it shouldn't be societally acceptable. Seems clear enough to me. And i don't think laws should mean we don't use common sense but they should be there to protect us or just so that we can point out that something is illegal for a reason and that's because it's not seen as acceptable.


>>>there's nothing wrong with taking a gamble....just so long as you don't gamble anything you can't afford to lose.

Exactly what i'm doing now and have been for a couple of years, give or take the occasional guy that seemed decent.
Did have a high level of skepticism of all men thanks to their being a high amount of poor quality men on the internet (liars, cheats, misogynists) and that was where i was doing most of my socialising, and still don't care to be with a man but at least i can sort of socialise on the internet with guys for now but i don't care to develop anything deep with them yet. There's a lot of stuff i wouldn't even go on about publicly, or even in what i consider safe spaces, because i know vulnerable = target (to arseholes).


"Men do hold the majority of the political power in the world, but irony is that women voted these men in."

I only voted once and that was for the green party, they care about the whole planet and everything on it, this party is run by a woman here in the uk. Caroline Lucas.
 NewYorker58
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Posted: 6/18/2018 10:31:41 AM
You pretended along with him. Did you make an attempt to verify if he was single? If you continue to naively believe strangers, history will repeat itself. Did he give you his home address, home telephone number, place of employment? Can you call him whenever, or are you given times when the wife isn't around? Does he want to meet at your place or a motel?

This was deceit, not rape. He didn't force you to do anything. I'm sorry you were duped, but with little effort, you can avoid this happening again.
 browneyesboo
Joined: 1/17/2018
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Posted: 6/18/2018 11:01:01 AM

Yes, women lie more with lies of kindness.


I know women should stick together and be there for each
other, etc., but women can be vicious, ferociously mean,
territorial, petty, and can lie with the best of them. I'm a
woman, but I know what we're capable of...even myself if
put in the position, but I'm not going to pretend women
"lie more with lies of kindness"...although it sounds cool.
 RoxyMoronic
Joined: 6/7/2016
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Why do men lie to get a woman
Posted: 6/18/2018 11:13:02 AM
I get what you’re saying but imposing these types of moral choices on people sounds a bit like religion or worse still, a slippery slope towards outlawing something like free will


the green party, they care about the whole planet and everything on it, this party is run by a woman here in the uk. Caroline Lucas.

I voted green in the locals. The tories already had 3 in and labour were never going to get anywhere in my neighbourhood.
 feirene
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Posted: 6/18/2018 12:57:50 PM

I voted green in the locals. The tories already had 3 in and labour were never going to get anywhere in my neighbourhood.

I voted for them twice actually, forgot about local elections. And the same thing here, they aren't going to get a majority vote any time soon but if i'm going to vote it isn't going to be for the best of a bad bunch and has to be something i wholly support.


I get what you’re saying but imposing these types of moral choices on people sounds a bit like religion or worse still, a slippery slope towards outlawing something like free will


I'm a nihilist, so don't believe any laws mean anything other than to say that a society does not accept that behaviour and that it will protect it's citizens by acting on those laws when it's appropriate to.
 JGL209
Joined: 5/1/2018
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Posted: 6/24/2018 3:49:50 PM
Why does anyone lie to get someone? I think its because they want something for the meantime or they lie to keep someone around. I know definitely it's not only men who lie..
 Dave of Indiana
Joined: 3/18/2009
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Posted: 6/24/2018 4:52:20 PM

All men will lie if you let them .


The above statement sounds similar to the one some men state that all women want is money. To prove your thought I assume you've met and known every man on the North American continent?
 Ladyinred0407
Joined: 2/6/2016
Msg: 96
Why do men lie to get a woman
Posted: 6/24/2018 5:55:22 PM

All men will lie if you let them



Is there substantiated proof of this? Just thought I'd ask. Unless this can be proven, it's worthless garbage.
 RoxyMoronic
Joined: 6/7/2016
Msg: 97
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Posted: 6/25/2018 9:43:49 AM

Is there substantiated proof of this?

Of course not.
Besides it’s a non sequitur.
And finally.....I have enough already I’m responsible for....like fvck am I adding ‘men’s lies’ to my list.

Although maybe I should hold their nutsack tightly in my hand when I ask a something :)
 Ladyinred0407
Joined: 2/6/2016
Msg: 98
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Posted: 6/25/2018 7:14:25 PM
LMAO, ^^ ^ ^ ^ At RoxyMoronic, Good one!
 julystorm22
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Posted: 6/25/2018 9:05:13 PM
Do all women want money? The smart wise ones do. But it's not because of gold-digging. It's because they've realized that love (aka. hormones) mean nothing when a guy doesn't have all his financial ducks in a row. It only takes one lazy loser who can't keep a job or spends like crazy to smarten a woman up. No one wants a parasite.
 cooldog65
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Posted: 6/25/2018 9:15:24 PM
^^^ And I've dated my share of female parasites. What's your point?
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